I kind of agree with him, but being an "accomplished player" doesn't necessarily have anything to do with writing good music either.
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I dont agree with Dave on this one. Just because a guitarist doesnt do guitar solos doesnt mean he cant be an accomplished player.
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That's really not what he was saying at all, chan.
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"...I mean, fuck George Harrison."
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Maybe Dave should stop listening for solos and start listening to the bands he has on Gigantour, because a good portion of them absolutely suck.
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haha. I really don't care for solos tbh so I disagree.
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you're an idiot dave, go awayThis Message Edited On 02.24.08
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Hes an idiot...
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well, you know, he was
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Why does he keep talking?
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Daves drinkin again.
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He's such a ****ing idiot. Anyone who only listens to music for solos is a moron.
All he's saying is he didn't want KoRn on the Gigantour '08 bill.
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Dave is God, therefor we shall listen and obey his spoken Gospel.
No jokes.
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All he's saying is he didn't want KoRn on the Gigantour '08 bill.
I didn't know they wanted to/were invited to be on it...?
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realy
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Being a well-rounded guitar player to me is being able to play rhythm and lead and acoustic.
That's the entirety of what he was getting at, and I agree.
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realy
No, i'm lying. thanks.This Message Edited On 02.24.08
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"It's like in baseball, the guys in the American League that just bat and don't play, or the ones that just pitch and don't bat."
That's one stupid analogy. A person doesn't pick what league or what team to play on...If someone signs you as a designated hitter you're not gonna field, it's not your choice...and then pitching in the AL is harder so that doesn't make any sense...maybe he should actually watch baseball?
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I have yet to find any guitar player who can not play rhythm and acoustic or lead and acoustic.
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Dave=SHUT UP!
Yes, I agree.
Still...
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i agree with HighandDriving... really....Dave is god.
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Fall out boy play solos so i'm guessing they're accomplished musicians right?
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::is the only person here who agrees with crazy dave, for once::
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How do other musicians put up with him?
Oh I forgot, he's a self-proclaimed legend.
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I was under the impression that any guitarist could play rhythm, lead and acoustic in some way. I must be mistaken though, Mustaine was in Megadeth, he knows his guitar shi0t.
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How is this music news? I posted a news art. not long ago about Rody cussing a 47 yr old out, and it got deleted. This is basicaly the same thing.
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How is this music news again?
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nvmThis Message Edited On 02.24.08
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I have to say of all the stupid things Dave has said over the years, this really isn't that bad.
It's getting to the point where Dave could tell you he doesn't like Mexican food because it gives him heartburn and people here would call him a racist.
I sometimes question the collective IQ of this community.
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I have to say of all the stupid things Dave has said over the years, this really isn't that bad.
Only because this pales in comparison to some of his other incredibly laughable statements.
It's getting to the point where Dave could tell you he doesn't like Mexican food because it gives him heartburn and people here would call him a racist.
No, I think he is just an idiot and this statement further cements that claim.
I sometimes question the collective IQ of this community.
So do I, but not for disliking morons like Mustaine.
I've never been an avid supporter of guitar solos. Most of the time they suck ass and come across as forced or just "HEY LOOK AT ME I RULE AT GUITAR." There are many reasons that this statement is stupid:
1. Solos usually suck, including many of his, although RIP had some great ones
2. Decent/standard/mediocre solos are not hard to write at all.
3. It's much more difficult to try and write a good song than wank like hell and hope people think you're god for playing so fast
4. I could just as easily say most drummers suck because they don't have some poorly placed 45 second drum solo in the middle of a song where it doesn't belong, but that would be stupid
5. Inno a Satana owns Mustaine
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i basically agree with what he's saying about being a well-rounded player, but he most definitely isn't one. anyone who's seen the cringeworthy version of cemetery gates that he did with dream theater at gigantour 06 will know dave is all speed and bum notes.
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[quote=Eakflanderyof]Satana owns Mustaine[/quote]
I don't know enough about Dave, or even Megadeth's library of music to determine whether or not there's some merit to his statement. But I've heard enough of it to know that the above quote is true. Carlos Santana, Jimi Hendrix, and Jimmy Page = Mustaine ownage.This Message Edited On 02.25.08
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Dave Mustaine is a fool. He's been bitter ever since he was kicked out of Metallica.
You can be a good player regardless of your shredding abilities. Granted, I prefer solos but there are many accomplished guitarists in other styles which don't require soloing.
Let's see him play some jazz or blues.
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I always enjoy a good laugh in the early morning
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Seriously guys, what are you getting worked up about? So Mustaine thinks guitars should solo and in his band, they do, and he picks bands he likes to go with him on his festival package tour. It doesn't really change anything about the way he runs Gigantour or whatever.
I'm not saying there should be solos on every record, it's just what he *wants* to hear from the music he listens to, and it's *why* he listens to the music he does?
Saying " to me being an accomplished musician you have to forego solos because it's wankery" is equally stupid. That's what YOU want to hear.
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This guy is so amazingly stupid it's hillarious.
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Honestly, you cannot FORCE solos into a song for the sake of proving that you're an 'accomplished' guitar player. It has to work in context of the song, not just to show off your guitar skills. Ever heard of the phrase 'less is more??'
There is a BIG difference between a good guitarist and a good songwriter. Writing a good song is much more challenging to do than just to rip a 'phat' solo.
Dude.
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Dave can barely play rhythm, lead or acoustic, so I mean whatever.
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Umm I think he's actually pretty dope when it comes to rhythm guitar.
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Yeah, his riffs aren't exactly easy...especially while he "sings"
or deflates the helium in his head
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GUITAR SOLOS GOOD! UNITED NATIONS BAD.
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And you'd probably lead the pack, seeing as you're more reactionary than anybody.
Spare me. I'm just calling 'em as I see 'em. Explain to me what in Dave's statement was really all that stupid? I read that article and shrugged. I don't fully agree with him, but I do think there's merit to the last sentence.
So explain to me why Dave's statement warrants the reaction it's getting. I would love to hear this.
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Mustaine = cunt.
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mustaine is a wash up. megadeth isnt even good anymore.
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I like megadeth alot (untill hearing their new album) but mustaine has always been a bitch. On a completely different matter, i am new- how do i get my pic to show on my coments? It is their on my profile page and says its been sucessfully loaded. But its not there. Some reason im not privilaged enough to use the forum for help either. Can someone help me please?!
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The funniest thing about all this is that he chose Job for a Cowboy to go on tour with him, JFAC has the worst solos I've ever heard.
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And I wanted bands that have had consistent musicianship.
Job for a Cowboy certainly fits his bill than (they only know how to play one song!)
As for Dave, I can see where hes going with this. But at the same time there are some phenomenal guitarists out there who play alot of atmospheric stuff and don't necessarily cater to Dave's opinions on what a good guitarist should be. For that, I say shame on you Dave for not recognizing skill outside of guitar solo. This Message Edited On 02.25.08
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dave is a waste of oxygen. this honestly rivals the comment that paris hilton made about admiring african children because they were starving. i enjoy megadeth but dave mustaine is an idiot.
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or i can do whatever the fuck i want and you will just have to swallow it dave.
guitar is not religion it's a hobby. some use it to get money but since when are there rules?
one guy won guitar world's guitar competition thing (can't remember the name) by using his guitar as a percussion instrument and making it sound like drums. DRUMS. in front of other successful guitarists. they voted for him cause he did something new and took a big chance in a competition that was mostly all about solos and chops. something different. do you know what that means? no last time i check your "band" was still jocking mettalica's sound from freakin' 20 years ago. so,suck my balls dave.
i wish you would just shut up and stop talking all together.
that said i still though the system has failed was pretty good.
so just shut up and do what your good at.
This Message Edited On 02.26.08This Message Edited On 02.26.08
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Mustaine has a point in that...if you don't play ANY guitar solos, I think you're lacking something. No, every song shouldn't have a guitar solo...but I think some should. They're an important part to metal.
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Mustaine should have made his explanation clearer.
Doesn't Mustaine mean the ability to play solos and that those who don't have the ability don't solo?
Of course it all depends on the style of music, but he's a metal guitarist so he would be referring to metal I believe only.
Actually if a so called 'accomplished metal guitarist' never does solos, I wonder if they would have the ability to solo if asked on the spot? Or maybe all they can do is hold a whammy bar or make their guitar sound like a drum? Who knows? Put it to the test!
By the way, why all the hostility in the comments? The Contributing Reviewers sound the most bigoted. Stick to reviewing only guys please!This Message Edited On 07.19.08
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i disagree with him even though i like solos
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Been a Dave Mustaine fan since I saw him in Metallica at The Boat House in Norfolk, Virginia as an opening act for Motorhead. Let's just say I've listened to them for a long while. I was glad when Metallica kicked him and gave him the courage -- or anger -- to start Megadeath. Perhaps that courage and success led him to kicking heroine addiction. But on this one....one of the reasons I was glad the 80's were in the past was the guitar soloists adding what many times amounted to useless bulk in otherwise great songs. The 90's music that held on to driving rhythms as their guitar work isn't in anyway inferior to shredding in a solo. In fact, many of the 90's and 2000's guitarists reserve soloing for the stage alone. Just because songs aren't built around solo breaks doesn't make the performing artists inferior musicians, either. Dave likes solos. Great! But in this case if he doesn't like rhythm-based bands, so what. He's just another guy with another opinion. He's certainly no authority on good modern music!
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i think mustaines a bit up his ass but hes an awesome player man
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KILL why the hell did you bump this thread
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feels good thats y
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I get what he's saying
but it doesn't apply to people that don't play the style that incorporates solos
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E-minor sweeps ftw.
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mustaine cant sweep olololol
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This news must mean that a new megadeth album is coming out soon. Stuff like this normally coincides with a new album lol
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How come when players shred "too much" it's considered "wankery" and stupid, but when someone plays, say the same notes as a "wankery" guitar solo, on a piano it's considered brilliant and beautiful? When u transpose some of the great classical pieces to guitar it'll sound like wankery and mindless shredding, but on piano, it's an incredible piece of music. U never here anyone say, "yeah, that Vivaldi is just a violin wanker or, Beethoven is just piano wankery.
I love all instrumental pieces from Vivaldi to Pagannini, to Michael Angelo Batio to Jason Becker. I just consider it all incredible musicianship and not "wankery".
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k that's nice
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True that. Have u heard Chris Broderick play Classical guitar? It's quite impressive.
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