Heathen!

lol i thought you guys would get a kick out of this.

HAHAHAHHA fuck this shitty ass band.

WWJD?

Kick the mother fucker out of the band.

Heathenism, ftw. Finally saw the light, woot.

As much as I like these guys that's a bogus reason to kick someone out of the band.

I'm still looking forward to the new HTD record though.This Message Edited On 07.18.08

he used to fail for playing in haste the day

now he fails for denying christ

then again he holds lamb of god as a standard for comparisson

Well this is a first...

well i mean, people wouldn't take them very seriously if all of the members didn't practice what they preach. so from that standpoint, they did the right thing, but it still sucks.

That's effin' hilarious and retarded. What a horrible reason for someone to be kicked out of a band. Religion brings no good. HTD went to shxt anyways once Jimmy Ryan left imo.

I can not remember reading the word "prayer" that often in such a short text...

oh dear

lol

I like Haste the Day but wtf

That is indeed lame.

we need a separation of church and band.

Smart man, dumb band. You'd think they'd just keep him for the sake of the music but no they gatta let their beliefs get involved.This Message Edited On 07.18.08

This happened to me twice, with two different bands with one of the same members...incidentially he was the one that kicked me out both times.

Damn ignorant "christian" assholes think kicking someone out for not believing in the same things as them is what Jesus would do? Terrible...

well since they are a christian band i can kinda understand where they are coming from. but i agree it's kind of dumb to like kick him out. they should have talked to him about it.

one down, four to go

[Quote=bringonthebreakdown]well since they are a christian band i can kinda understand where they are coming from. but i agree it's kind of dumb to like kick him out. they should have talked to him about it.[/Quote]

It's indeed lame, but I must say I respect the fact that they stay true to their beliefs, values and opinions. Shows that they have at least some integrity on in that field.

Still, it's hella stupid from a musical point of view

i gotta say i lost respect for this band.
kicking the dude out cuz he's not Christian? that's ridiculous....i mean the guitarist of Mychildren Mybride is not Christian and MCMB is a christian band.
i dont see how it'd be that much of a problem.
i mean HTD's guitarist has been there forever...and they're just gonna kick him out cuz he has different views now?
fucked up.

"nor do we cast judgement on those that do not believe in Jesus."

Guess you just did, lads. Even from a 'belief' point of view I can't seriously respect this. If you preach one message it should not mean that you cannot or will not embrace others.

Jason was probably the most replaceable member so if it had to by anyone I'm glad it was him.

I agree with bringonthebreakdown & Damrod, although other bands like MCMB may like it just the way it is, HTD have always had a little more of a Christian message, plus would you want to be in a band that is giving a message that you dont believe in?

i must have missed this...but again what has being religious got to do with being in a band making music....???

obviously they think they're touching pagans' souls with their gorgeous sonoral creations as touched by the hand of yahweh

They felt like a member in the band not living by their message was a reason to ask him to leave the band, not a big deal. They can embrace him as a person but being a musician is their career and if his choice affected that environment, then he needs to go. Don't make it seem like they are getting rid of him out of a lack of tolerance.

we're not making it seem that way. it seems that way because that's the way it is. observe: 'you disagree with us on religious beliefs. therefore you can't play music with us anymore.' that's what intolerance is, sparky. it's not like he was in a fucking priesthood - it's a band,which makes a product -music- that is not contingent on one's philosophy.

i'm glad he has so much literature. did he read about not biting the hand that feeds or trent reznors liner notes?
and istaros: it is a band... and its their band. they write their own philosophy and approach. done. postmodern tea bagging

How the hell are they still a band?

I guess you know what better way to get kicked out of a band by your "friends" than to have them apologize for you being an Atheist and then having them pray for you.

Assholes.

Two down, istaros. HTD was dead to me after Jimmy Ryan left...I must say that these guys were from my hometown and were one of the biggest influences on me musically back when they started ( I was in 8th grade) Besides the vocalist, they've maintained the same line-up since inception so it's kind of unsettling to see him ousted...but religion is a fraud, so godspeed heathen!

i never said they don't, brandtweathers. of course they make their own decisions. that's nothing more than a tautology. what i said is their decision is an example of intolerance, we're not framing it so that it seems that way

It seems like all of you are being intolerant to what you view to be intolerance. Isn't the very point of tolerance to accept a group of people for who they are and what they believe? If a band has decided that their spirituality is an integral part of their band then they have a justified reason to make a change. Who are we to call them assholes and frown on them as intolerant bigots. I find that to be equally intolerant.

whatever, if he was a good friend and guitarist they should have accepted him for who he was and what he believed in
stupid christians

donovr, that might be the dumbest argument in the history of man. semantic purity is absolutely worthless

Friedrich Nietzsche is rolling over in his coffin.

I'm with the minority on how I feel about this move: I think it's justified. Haste the Day aren't simply a band, they're a Christian Band...and their songs are even more lyrically evident of that fact than, say, Norma Jean. I think that having a band where everyone believed wholeheartedly in what they were doing and what they were singing about would help to produce their best music...and so, I think their move was justified.

And also, I would think that it'd be uncomfortable to be in a band that sings about the goodness of Jesus and not believe in him...but that's just speculation. I'm inclined to believe that if they hadn't split, tensions between the band members would've become high after a while anyways, and he would've quit on his own in a worse way. Just my thoughts.

P. S. F*** you all.This Message Edited On 07.19.08

Thank you for the Ad Hominem but the argument remains.

no, stupid, the argument DOESN'T remain, because you had no argument to start with. if you really don't get why 'waaa, you're being intolerant of intolerance itself' is a goddamn oxymoron, you have no reason to continue breathing and should just smash yourself in the face repeatedly with a toolboxThis Message Edited On 07.20.08

Well, atleast they are all still friends.

I'm with Masochist on this one. I'll add that istaros is a total dick.

a dick that you can feel free to suck at any time, my friend

They turned to shit after Jimmy left, anyway.

You guys are a bunch of tools, it's impossible to stand up on stage singing to your God and living for what you believe in, while having a liar play right next to you. That brings down the morale, no matter what you believe or stand for. How bout all you fans out there read lyrics before you bash a band you thought you were a fan of. Jimmy was amazing, but he also stood for the same things these guys do.

I'm sure he would have left the band reguardless.

Good luck to Jason, wherever he goes.