good shit, album should be solid

Not feeling this at all. Just doesn't feel dynamic or especially dense. Don't know if that's the production (which definitely lacks heft) or the paint by numbers songwriting. Usually even their typical stuff hits me but this didn't resonate at all.

like i said in that other thread, the first half of this song is so generic that i couldnt even tell what band's supposed to have written it if i didnt know any better

nothing new or anything but it's solid

Still blows my mind that people don't understand that it only sounds "generic" because they've had such a massive impact and a million bands after them basically plagiarized their riffing style. It sounds like At the Gates, and that's not a bad thing.

I got this last night and listened to it three times so far. To me, the title track and this song are the two most conventional songs on the album. I get a real "With Fear I Kiss..." with a bit of "Terminal Spirit Disease" mixed in kind of vibe on the rest of the album. It's pretty diverse in the sounds and tempos and there are some pretty cool melodies that are way more developed than anything on the last two albums. I mean this album starts and ends with classically influenced pieces. "Slaughter of the Soul Pt 2" this is not, but I have enjoyed this more than any of their other releases.

wait, you got the whole album?

can I listen plz?

"Still blows my mind that people don't understand that it only sounds "generic" because they've had such a massive impact and a million bands after them basically plagiarized their riffing style. It sounds like At the Gates, and that's not a bad thing."

my dude ive been defending this band for years but if they did it so much better than the newer blood (which was true for SotS, not so much for their new shit) it wouldnt be a problem. the problem is that IT DOES sound the fucking same, its not as good as it used to be

however is willie's right then i have faith this might be worthwhile

That's pleasing news, Willie. I can dig this already.

Just calling them generic is stupid, if you helped develope a certain direction of a genre, a certain sound, you should stick to it to some degree.
And with this one I personally felt like it didn't have this disposable slaughter of the soul-ish riff the previous song had.

"Just calling them generic is stupid, if you helped develope a certain direction of a genre, a certain sound, you should stick to it to some degree."

how is it stupid? yes, they helped developed it, but this right here is a lot worse than sots, and a lot closer to their imitators in quality. you're painting a false equivalency here

Holy fuck the productions sounds siiiiick, it's got that cloudy chunky sound from the 90s it seems like.

Great fuckin track

--yes, they helped developed it, but this right here is a lot worse than sots, and a lot closer to their imitators in quality.--

I personally think it's better than SotS. Maybe the problem is that everyone has elevated that album to such a high level the band are now damned if they do and damned if they don't. I wonder if people would be bitching as much if Slayer had broken up after Reign in Blood and then tried to release something like South of Heaven or Seasons in the Abyss 10 years later. I imagine it would be the same kind of bullshit.

i think sots is a solid 4/5 and prefer their older stuff. sots is clearly much better than its imitators, the first half of this song however is not.

not sure about your slayer analogy, personally i dont put reign in blood on much of a pedestal i mean the debut and the two that you mention are about as good more or less

also my dude i saw your 3 rating on that thormenthor, dont think i didnt see it, whats up man? that shit slays :[

I think SotS is a 3.2 at best. I think I could get into Red in the Sky and With Fear if the productions on them weren't so fucking terrible. So, basically, the only two At The Gates albums I like are the two since they reformed. And I like this one more because it is much less streamlined.

The Slayer analogy comes from how revered Reign is for most people. And, you're right, people do like South of Heaven and Seasons, but if they had ten years where Reign was the last Slayer album and then they tried to release something different (i.e. South or Seasons-ish) would people still hold them in as high of regard or would they bitch that they're not the same or as good as Reign?

I don't even remember that Thormenthor album, but I'm always willing to give another shot.

damn

yea i can understand where youre coming from w/ respect to atg, i just can't agree.

regardless, if what you said about the new one is true then i might actually dig it

also lol no one ever talks about terminal spirit disease cuz its only 20 mins of new material and a few lives :[

--also lol no one ever talks about terminal spirit disease cuz its only 20 mins of new material and a few lives :[--

Yeah, but the new material isn't as 'progressive' as "With Fear..." (I know "With Fear..." isn't actually prog), but it wasn't as balls out and no-frills as SotS. So, to me, this new one is more of a mix of the more expansive sound of "With Fear..." but with some streamlining and aggression thrown in, but more in line with Terminal than SotS.

What's with the lack of solos? Still a good song though.

At war with reality might actually be the most forgettable album ever made. Hopefully this is better

Well, this definitely couldn't be any worse if the previous release is the most forgettable album ever made. I mean, holy shit. You'd almost have to try to make the most forgettable album ever, yet somehow these guys just did it without even trying... so if they were able to come back with an even more forgettable album. I mean, what are the odds???

"What's with the lack of solos? Still a good song though."

This band has never been about the solos.

First half of the song is a total generic snooze fest. That second half though is pretty tasty.

@Willie I was exaggerating of course, but I really did think it was pretty forgettable

I don't like how Tomas stays on one tone the whole time. He used to enunciate so venomously but it's just like, distracting noise over the music now.

Can't decide which single sucks more: Their first one or this one. In any event, whatever enthusiasm I've had for this upcoming album is pretty much evaporated now.

To anyone bashing SotS in this thread OR otherwise not getting why it is so amazing: You don't understand anything, go home.

no one was bashing sots calm down bro

"Still blows my mind that people don't understand that it only sounds "generic" because they've had such a massive impact and a million bands after them basically plagiarized their riffing style. It sounds like At the Gates, and that's not a bad thing." [2]

Other bands may have done it better or worse since ATG split up, but ATG still have distinct idiosyncracies in their music (a lot of it in the melodies they write) that no other band has been able to copy exactly.

I really like this song. It sounds a little more developed than the last album, and that combined with what Willie said tells me this won't just be a straight retread. Looking forward to the album.

jfc im out of this thread man cheers

Also @Willie, would you say the album is closer to the first half or the second half of this new song?

Definitely more like the second half. After like the 2:15 mark...

"Definitely more like the second half. After like the 2:15 mark..."

Okay now I'm really hyped for this. Fucking love the second half.

"This band has never been about the solos."

Eh, they used solos more sparingly in their early works but most songs on Slaughter and At War have solos. I agree it was never the main focus of their music, but being somewhat of a solo nut and this being similar to those albums, was just kinda surprised neither single had one (and I think a nice solo would've benefited this a lot). Still good though, just a personal thing really.

And based on Willie's comments, I definitely have high hopes for the rest of the album.

im not sure if this is still something i would listen to a lot these days but its pretty damn solid. sounds more unconventional and brooding than their last album for sure.

I re-listened to At War With Reality, and the two songs that would most fit on the new album are “Heros and Tombs” and “Order From Chaos” except the new songs are more diverse and developed.

I enjoyed this more than the last single which was ok but forgettable. Still, my excitement for the album has died out a bit since I love neither song.

At the gates are fcking legendary. These singles have been a high 4 outta 5 in my ears.
Very excited for the new album! This song is fcking wicked good.

This album is on track for a pretty okay/5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy-FHDx4_Pw&feature=youtu.be

third single

album is looking really good so far, all three singles have been great so far

this could be taken right from slaughter

not bad

It's better than the last two tracks

Yeah that song was excellent. Really like the production too. Bass is totally audible which is like whoaaaa

yup, this one rules.

Damn. Third track sounds very Red in the Sky.

Thanks for posting bud

easily my favorite of the 3

God damn the new track is amazing.

Yeah this one and the first single were alright, new single is fantastic. Definitely have higher hopes for this now.