35 years for Watkins

2013-12-18 by DatsNotDaMetulz | 191 Comments
Ian Watkins, the disgraced former frontman of Welsh nu-metal group Lostprophets, was today sentenced to 35 years in prison after admitting to 13 separate child sex offences. He was sentenced alongside two mothers of children who turned out to be among the victims of Watkins' crimes. Investigations into other possible offences are ongoing with some offences thought to stretch as far as Germany and the United States.

More in depth details of the outcome of the trial can be found on the BBC website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25412675

Tagged: Lostprophets

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Crawl
December 18th 2013
2946 Comments


enjoy your stay, ian

KILL
December 18th 2013
81580 Comments


a great day for metal

anarchistfish
December 18th 2013
30307 Comments


29 years in jail/6 on licence

SCREAM!
December 18th 2013
15755 Comments


he probably wont make it out

ButteryBiscuitBass
December 18th 2013
11458 Comments


a great day for metal

Lol.

SirDrumsalot
December 18th 2013
1835 Comments


I hope he doesn't even last 1 year.

Ovrot
December 18th 2013
13304 Comments


didn't even eat the baby after raping it
what a poser

afoolonahill
December 18th 2013
175 Comments


He's even been heard saying the whole was all 'mega lolz' or something.. this guy is fucking nuts. Justice system has done right here

SIMBOLIC
December 18th 2013
6731 Comments


gotta feel a bit sorry for him. I mean no one tries to rape babies for fun it surely is a deep seeded dark desire, like how some people have the urge to kill. Imagine having those urges

KILL
December 18th 2013
81580 Comments


ya u dont act on them how can u feel sorry for him i mean wow hes bragging about this shit too dude come on

SIMBOLIC
December 18th 2013
6731 Comments


hey if hes braggin thats different
im not defending him im just saying that on one level i feel sorry for him that he has those urges

kris.
December 18th 2013
15504 Comments


http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/ian-watkins-lostprophets-singer-describes-6417103

After admitting abusing children, including babies, in court the paedophile added: "I don't know what everyone is getting worked up about."

He also claimed he was not a paedophile but was pleading guilty to avoid a trial.

Watkins has been jailed for 29 years for sexually abusing children.

Watkins made two phone calls to a female friend from Parc Prison in Bridgend after his guilty pleas.

On November 27, the day after he admitted he was a paedophile, he said of the court hearing: "It was, like, either me go up there and say 'Come on, it wasn't that bad, nobody got hurt', I do my charm. Or do I end up making things worse for myself? Or do I just say I was off my head and can't remember?"

Discussing his possible sentence, he added: "I'm going to put a statement on [December] 18th now just to say it was megalolz, I don't know what everyone is getting so freaked out about."


doin it for the lolz

KILL
December 18th 2013
81580 Comments


i feel sorry for the dudes who wana fuck kids but dont cos they realise how much it will fuck the kids life up but if u act on it wow send him to the gallows

Underflow
December 18th 2013
5297 Comments


Should have been longer.

afoolonahill
December 18th 2013
175 Comments


text talk mega lolz

SIMBOLIC
December 18th 2013
6731 Comments


i agree he should get boned by the long hard schlong of the law
but yeh having said that...

Underflow
December 18th 2013
5297 Comments


When asked if he would still issue a statement saying his conduct was "megalolz" he replied: "No, it's just lolz now."

kris.
December 18th 2013
15504 Comments


seriously what is this 2005 is he 13 who the fuck says lolz anymore jesus just hang him and get it over with

KILL
December 18th 2013
81580 Comments


sim do u have the urges

SCREAM!
December 18th 2013
15755 Comments


I'm surprised he hasn't been saved by insanity or something

Tunaboy45
December 18th 2013
18421 Comments


This ladies and gentlemen is justice

SIMBOLIC
December 18th 2013
6731 Comments


i have the urge to purge kids of their virgin booty holes

KILL
December 18th 2013
81580 Comments


dude i'm just glad it aint illegal to bang old slappers cos all i wana bang is kate

SIMBOLIC
December 18th 2013
6731 Comments


ehh what is jstice? those kids are still fucked up, the deed is done and the mother have lost custody. all we have left is spending money on three pedos and some fuked up kids

SCREAM!
December 18th 2013
15755 Comments


Urge To Purge

Lostprophets post prison comeback album title right thur

dante1991
December 18th 2013
764 Comments


he probably wont make it out [2]

have to say, I agree with this

kris.
December 18th 2013
15504 Comments


the moms are goin to jail for a long time too. 14 and 17 years

SIMBOLIC
December 18th 2013
6731 Comments


"dude i'm just glad it aint illegal to bang old slappers cos all i wana bang is kate"

word dude i'd make her sing the hook in runnin up that hill with my johnson down the hatch

JustinKing
December 18th 2013
1438 Comments


Was wondering if I was the only one to remember the "megalolz" statement. The guy's a fucking lunatic. Should have been longer. [2]

SCREAM!
December 18th 2013
15755 Comments


You're still nursin?
And a virgin?
Well I'm urgin
For some ass purgin

Lyrics to the title track

Gwyn.
December 18th 2013
17270 Comments


This thread will have 250 comments min. when I wake up calling it now

WeepingBanana
December 18th 2013
11387 Comments


i would undoubtedly go full on matricide if i was one of those kids

SIMBOLIC
December 18th 2013
6731 Comments


plot twist: he gets out on parole and turns his life around by becoming a priest


...

SCREAM!
December 18th 2013
15755 Comments


that wouldnt really be turning his life around at all

/ohsnap

FadeToBlack
December 18th 2013
11043 Comments


a fitting career path

SIMBOLIC
December 18th 2013
6731 Comments


@SCREAM that was the joke dummy!!!

Midjicka
December 18th 2013
271 Comments


Should have been longer. [3]


Dolving999
December 18th 2013
1853 Comments


"Megalolz"

This guy + the other inmates = megalolz

livingisland
December 18th 2013
527 Comments


Give em the chair

MyNameIsPencil
December 18th 2013
6636 Comments


should have been a longer sentence
but I have a feeling he'll die in prison anyway

AtomicWaste
Moderator
December 18th 2013
2888 Comments


Wow. Sentence seems too short, really.

OwMySnauze
December 18th 2013
2522 Comments


MEGALOLZ

MoosechriS
December 18th 2013
6353 Comments


dude won't last in prison, he'll either go bat shit crazy in solitary confinement or meet an untimely end at the hand of the other inmates

BMDrummer
December 18th 2013
15096 Comments


Good, hope one of his fellow inmates has a hammer.

kris.
December 18th 2013
15504 Comments


http://www.metalinjection.net/shocking-revelations/former-lostprophets-vocalist-ian-watkins-sentenced-to-35-years-in-prison-for-attempting-to-rape-a-baby-says-it-was-just-mega-lolz#watkinsreport

too disgusting to copy/paste, shit makes me feel sick

GnarlyShillelagh
Emeritus
December 18th 2013
6385 Comments


probs gon be dead within the year

witchxrapist
December 18th 2013
11117 Comments


Yeah I was just gonna say he won't last a year, most people in prison are fathers with anger problems.

ILJ
December 18th 2013
6942 Comments


#megalolz

seriously though this guy is fucked up

Chortles
December 18th 2013
21494 Comments


he's gonna get his cunt kicked in

ILJ
December 18th 2013
6942 Comments


i certainly will not object to the punishment he will take in prison

Asiatic667
December 18th 2013
4651 Comments


On a report I just saw, his ex-girlfriend was saying he wanted to get her pregnant so he could get it on with their own baby

I mean really, how can someone want to have sex with a kid, let alone a baby for christs sake

Realm
December 18th 2013
2512 Comments


this is it

this is my limit

schoonda
December 18th 2013
1833 Comments


how can he be so calm after such shit? seriously hope he is bummed to death

auberginedreams
December 18th 2013
6626 Comments


he should be gangraped my mall santas for christmas, 'twould be a merry christmas for all.

ShadowRemains
December 18th 2013
27740 Comments


he's gonna get his cunt kicked in


hopefully

deserves the death penalty frankly

Trebor.
Emeritus
December 18th 2013
59827 Comments


Why would you ever let a person like this out of prison? They are beyond rehabilitation.

Trebor.
Emeritus
December 18th 2013
59827 Comments


From the link Kris posted, that shit is hard to read honestly

kotsaja
December 18th 2013
10 Comments


This disgusting little boy in mansuit and "most people in prison are fathers with anger problems." Now that sounds like justice. Give him hell.

Crawl
December 18th 2013
2946 Comments


When asked if he would still issue a statement saying his conduct was "megalolz" he replied: "No, it's just lolz now."

I can't believe that someone is able to say this

Scoot
December 18th 2013
22191 Comments


35 years in a european prison is a life sentence

someone will kill him

30secondstocydonia
December 18th 2013
417 Comments


They should've just sent the cunt to Siberian wilderness so we wouldn't have to use our tax dollars on him.

AliW1993
December 18th 2013
7511 Comments


someone will kill him


Tbh I think it's more likely he'll do himself first.


anarchistfish
December 18th 2013
30307 Comments


he feels no shame so tbh I doubt it

Hoppoman
December 18th 2013
723 Comments


Sad really, how someone could fall so low.

ShadowRemains
December 18th 2013
27740 Comments


i feel no sadness for this pervert, he should just be dead

Spec
December 18th 2013
39385 Comments


Let the dickhead live with it.

SIMBOLIC
December 18th 2013
6731 Comments


one of the mothers fell for him when she thought he said
"I really want you baby"

when he really said

"I really want your baby"

XD

VisionsFromTheDarkSide
December 18th 2013
2440 Comments


Just read the article on metal injection and I wish I hadn't

SIMBOLIC
December 18th 2013
6731 Comments


i did too thank god i have bongs and can erase that shit from my head dear sweet fuck

SIMBOLIC
December 18th 2013
6731 Comments


i actually cant believe what i read

SIMBOLIC
December 18th 2013
6731 Comments


imagine being his lawyer

SIMBOLIC
December 18th 2013
6731 Comments


his computer password being "ifuckkids" is kinda funny

someguest
December 18th 2013
30126 Comments


I've heard "Baby" by Bieber is/was his theme song.

SIMBOLIC
December 18th 2013
6731 Comments


lol i was trying to think of a joke involving that song for a while nice

ShadowRemains
December 18th 2013
27740 Comments


i threw up in my mouth a bit

SIMBOLIC
December 19th 2013
6731 Comments


dont know if i can make it through

Snake.
December 19th 2013
25249 Comments


a great day for metal [2]

Slut
December 19th 2013
4255 Comments


there's always more details that just make it worse and worse, even when it seems it can't get any fucking worse

SIMBOLIC
December 19th 2013
6731 Comments


lol slut 420 comments gonna have a bong

SIMBOLIC
December 19th 2013
6731 Comments


guys probs dead

Uranium
December 19th 2013
7549 Comments


drill all his teeth with no anesthesia
break all his toes, fingers
latch his eyes open and make him stare into the sun all day

Greeny86
December 19th 2013
46 Comments


wtf did i just read! that is horrific

NordicMindset
December 19th 2013
25137 Comments


he'll hang himself

after he gets his ass railed by other molesters

slidenslip
December 19th 2013
1016 Comments


ian watkins best new user 2013

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
December 19th 2013
47588 Comments


Yeah I don't know why I read that but I'm not glad I did

NordicMindset
December 19th 2013
25137 Comments


I didn't read it

don't want to

rowan gimme a general overview of it

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
December 19th 2013
47588 Comments


The general overview of that is, just when you thought you knew exactly how fucking messed up Watkins was it gets worse and worse with more details. I'm not repeating any of it here.

NordicMindset
December 19th 2013
25137 Comments


goddamnit dont make me read it

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
December 19th 2013
47588 Comments


Don't read it and don't ask me to repeat it and we'll all be far better off

NordicMindset
December 19th 2013
25137 Comments


oh goddamit

that was... long

and disturbing

i regret it

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
December 19th 2013
47588 Comments


Yep, don't say I didn't try to warn you

bach
December 19th 2013
16303 Comments


Life wouldn't be enough time for this guy

Wizard
December 19th 2013
20509 Comments


It's kind of funny, all these years I've always said how terrible this band/ singer were and I was literally right!

With that said, I feel horrible for all the families that were affected by these crimes. I have a 5 year old daughter and I can't imagine what I would do if someone did something to her.

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
December 19th 2013
47588 Comments


I feel sorry for the Lostprophets fans, which at one point included me
Also the other band members

someguest
December 19th 2013
30126 Comments


"A Thousand Apologies" wouldn't be enough.

NordicMindset
December 19th 2013
25137 Comments


There's still tomorrow forget the sorrow

DatsNotDaMetulz
December 19th 2013
4309 Comments


I don't know whether you guys have seen this yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF3BbT_UwjI

Also the Popworld story is pretty damn horrific when you look back at it now. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/12/12/ian-watkins-alexa-chung-video-child-abuse_n_4431912.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

NordicMindset
December 19th 2013
25137 Comments


the other members got screwed over, maybe they'll form a different band.

you never know, alter bridge were able to shake off the stigma from their ties to creed. maybe these guys can repeat.

of course, scott stapp never forced his way inside an infant so...

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
December 19th 2013
47588 Comments


Yeah I don't think the other band members are ever gonna shake this stigma off

DatBeefPudding
December 19th 2013
1952 Comments


i read some of the details of what he did. made me sick to my stomach.

this guy is a monster, and he was also probably a HUGE 4channer. saying mega lulz and shit. i totally see him being one.

Uranium
December 19th 2013
7549 Comments


both of those videos are fucked in retrospect

anarchistfish
December 19th 2013
30307 Comments


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZzgN7efCoE

Treeman
December 19th 2013
1425 Comments


haha this guy is gonna get fucking killed in jail man id do it if i saw him he wanted to rape a 1 year old like what the fuck is that some serbian film shit i dunno not cool though

Spec
December 19th 2013
39385 Comments


Okay that's enough reading for today.

Gwyn.
December 19th 2013
17270 Comments


Shit there was a guy almost like this that went in my country once, they got him and within about a month or so there was a video circling around the net where upon the inmates from his cell beheaded him with a knife and then used his head for football, and I know it's legit cause I saw it myself



crossing my fingers for his inmates to be even more imaginative!

Gwyn.
December 19th 2013
17270 Comments


ugh fuck someone on tumblr just posted something where they show pictures of this whole thing

Almost vomitted as soon as I saw it

Masochist
December 19th 2013
9167 Comments


"he probably wont make it out"

Probably not. Dunno where he's gonna serve his prison term, but if it's in the US, he's fucked. Probably literally. From all that I know about prison (beyond the Hollywood bullshit), of all crimes, the ones that PRISONERS deem most unforgivable are ones dealing with children (child murderers/rapists/pornographers/pornagraphilics/etc.). Go to prison on one of those charges, and you're done.

ReAnimator
December 19th 2013
369 Comments


This is seriously the most fucked thing I have ever come across. I have never felt so close to vomiting just reading about something, but this is beyond anything. I literally can't organize my thoughts. I hope this degenerate shit gets what he's due

30secondstocydonia
December 19th 2013
417 Comments


The last line on the video of "A Town Called Hypocrisy"... fuckkkkkkk thats creepy.

TPM731
December 19th 2013
240 Comments


Good riddance, scumbag.

demon of surveillance
December 19th 2013
924 Comments


Really hope he gets prison shanked asap

IleftyspankedU
December 19th 2013
768 Comments


this is gonna make listening to lostprophets damn near impossible without getting disgusted...which sucks, cause I really enjoyed me some lostprophets. maybe the other guys in the band can start something new (START SOMETHING, START SOMETHING)

DatBeefPudding
December 19th 2013
1952 Comments


nah ^ it really shouldnt at all.

they dudes actions are removed from his music, and its not even really his music. he was just the singer.

dont let him ruin lostprophets

Gwyn.
December 19th 2013
17270 Comments


Lostprophets would've had to be good at all for them to ever be ruined

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
December 19th 2013
32289 Comments


Really surprised that Metal Injection actually posted the documents verbatim

NorwichScene
December 19th 2013
3298 Comments


Great, 35 years of my tax money paying to keep his ass in prison. Just kill him

anarchistfish
December 19th 2013
30307 Comments


someone here doesn't know how the legal system works

LepreCon
December 19th 2013
5481 Comments


Sick bastard. His music sucked anyways.

Snake.
December 19th 2013
25249 Comments


You mean the others that kept him in the band despite the fact that they knew that Ian was raping kids?

gryndstone
December 19th 2013
2727 Comments


Read the sentencing remarks for some reason, almost cried. I'm pretty desensitized to things, but this dude is fucked. Hope he dies in prison.

MO
December 19th 2013
24015 Comments


"Really hope he gets prison shanked asap"

nah that's too lenient he needs to suffer

Mookid
December 19th 2013
1485 Comments


Just kill him[2]

Seriously, dude obviously has some extreme mental issues

Death penalty all the way

AliW1993
December 19th 2013
7511 Comments


You mean the others that kept him in the band despite the fact that they knew that Ian was
raping kids?


We'd have heard a lot more if there was any genuine evidence they'd been in on it. Given that Watkins
always traveled on separate airplanes and stayed in different hotels to the rest of the group, I see
no reason not to believe them.

I've just read that report. I'm not particularly sensitive when it comes to gory details, but fuck
that's disgusting. I feel dirty having just read it.


anarchistfish
December 19th 2013
30307 Comments


They probably heard rumours but tried to ignore them. Easy to fall into denial. Don't see why the rest of the band should be blamed.

Gwyn.
December 19th 2013
17270 Comments


They could've at least look into it, I mean if the person who I'm supposed to be making music with is repeatedly accoused of being a child rapist I'd look into it at least a little

BigPleb
December 19th 2013
65784 Comments


Pretty much the most disturbing thing I have ever read.

Gwyn.
December 19th 2013
17270 Comments


Oh and btw, rumours always have some sort of truth to them, or rather are at least based off of something, they don't just come out of nowhere

not at least giving some thought to rumours as serious as this, especially when they were brought up as often as they were, is just plain foolish, and now look what happened

ShitsofRain
December 19th 2013
8257 Comments


at first i read 35 years for wanking

MosesMalone
December 19th 2013
1836 Comments


So were there lots of rumors that he was a child molestor? I was under the impression that before his arrest, nobody had any idea.

anarchistfish
December 19th 2013
30307 Comments


murmurs at most. nothing widely known

wowyouresohxc
December 19th 2013
96 Comments


It's kind a long thread, so I don't know if anyone has posted this.
Sentencing remarks: http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/r-v-watkins-and-others.pdf

wowyouresohxc
December 19th 2013
96 Comments


whoa

MosesMalone
December 19th 2013
1836 Comments


I think people keep referring to them as "nu-metal" just to peg it as a rapey genre.

Scoot
December 19th 2013
22191 Comments


you can't make stuff like that pdf up

planning to force infants to take highly addictive drugs in the hopes of creating an army of sex slaves...like a human being should not be capable of this behaviour

this guy is barely even human at all

someguest
December 19th 2013
30126 Comments


So when is the UK bringing drawn and quartered back?

Hoppoman
December 19th 2013
723 Comments


I'm never reading links posted on sputnik again. Jesus......

kris.
December 19th 2013
15504 Comments


http://i.imgur.com/iMTWXIh.jpg

lol

Slut
December 19th 2013
4255 Comments


i just feel bad for that poor person hahah

anarchistfish
December 19th 2013
30307 Comments


that was posted a day after watkins was charged

evilford
December 20th 2013
64028 Comments


"Sentencing remarks: http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/r-v-watkins-and-others.pdf"

Wow

He says the whole situation is "megalolz". This dude has obviously lost all touch with reality. I hope his prison buddies rape some sense into him so he can at least suffer at some point knowing what a shitty human being he is



evilford
December 20th 2013
64028 Comments


What's sad is he'll probably be killed/off himself within three months time and he doesn't even deserve that. He deserves to be raped and abused every day for his entire sentence and then fuckin tortured and bled to death on his release date

Relinquished
December 20th 2013
48710 Comments


people are still talking about this guy?

why recognize trash?

evilford
December 20th 2013
64028 Comments


Why not? I doubt a news thread on sputnikmusic is giving him any pleasure. Just venting my outrage for how fucked up it all is. You can't really expect any parent to just not have a reaction to this

Relinquished
December 20th 2013
48710 Comments


very true and I can empathize but it's not like his gross actions are going unpunished

ZippaThaRippa
December 20th 2013
10671 Comments


You all realize that there are a number of pedophiles that successfully survive their prison sentences right? They're typically kept away from general population inmates specifically because they're more likely to assaulted. It's not like he's going to go to prison and immediately be killed. Quit kidding yourself.

evilford
December 20th 2013
64028 Comments


@ Wolfe - yeah hes definitely getting punishment and I'm thankful for the justice system here.

evilford
December 20th 2013
64028 Comments


And dude there's no fucking way this guy is surviving 35 years in prison

bach
December 20th 2013
16303 Comments


Dude's gonna kill himself before someone else gets to him.

ZippaThaRippa
December 20th 2013
10671 Comments


Well no, there's a good chance he'll die of natural causes or prostate cancer before then. But for real, not everyone who rapes a child gets murdered in prison. They would stop putting them in prison if that were the case, ya silly goose.

Relinquished
December 20th 2013
48710 Comments


It's likely he might kill himself. He lost the "rockstar luck" to get away with what he did and
virtually all support from anyone outside.

or he'll learn to "pick" on someone his own size. he won't be picking though.

ZippaThaRippa
December 20th 2013
10671 Comments


Yeah I just can't make sense of it. On the one hand, they say he's remorseless and humored by the whole thing. On the other hand, they placed him on suicide watch. Was the watch just a preventative measure? Was the 'remorseless' thing just a media trope to make him seem less human?

Relinquished
December 20th 2013
48710 Comments


most likely both

either way he's gonna suffer a lot

ZippaThaRippa
December 20th 2013
10671 Comments


That makes more sense. Makes you wonder what made him that way

Relinquished
December 20th 2013
48710 Comments


they wonder the same thing about the worst offenders in history... but not even hitler would stoop to
this different low

evilford
December 20th 2013
64028 Comments


Well yeah not every child rapist gets murdered in prison but this guy isn't just any child rapist. He was a bit of a celebrity beforehand, the lengths he went to repeatedly with his sick shit, now he's fucking making jokes about it and literally lol'ing

his days are numbered. Sooner or later even if he doesn't manage to off himself, someone else will end it for him. There is literally no way this dude in this situation is gonna live 35 years in prison

As far as natural cause goes, it's not like he's an old fart or anything, he's 36. Plenty of time to get shanked

ZippaThaRippa
December 20th 2013
10671 Comments


I'll bet you 50 dollars he isn't murdered

evilford
December 20th 2013
64028 Comments


50? Might as well be playing with Monopoly money

Make it $10,000!

KangarooSong
December 20th 2013
149 Comments


lol how about a few years for the drunk uncle that turned him into the psycho he is today?

KangarooSong
December 20th 2013
149 Comments


lol how about a few years for the drunk uncle that turned him into the psycho he is today?

apert
December 20th 2013
3236 Comments


he gets a longer sentenced than most murders, which is completely wrong in my opinion as murder is a worse crime and should be punished accordingly. In the public eye what he's done is far worse than murder, which is frankly ridiculous. Murder should have a longer sentence than this, not saying Watkins sentence should be shorter but it highlights how lax murder is treated in UK courts

anarchistfish
December 20th 2013
30307 Comments


more factors are taken into consideration than just how serious the crime appears

Relinquished
December 20th 2013
48710 Comments


he probably had more victims under his belt than a person who commited murder once

DatsNotDaMetulz
December 20th 2013
4309 Comments


http://www.metalsucks.net/2013/12/20/support-ian-watkins-facebook-fan-page-must-troll-also-worst-tattoo-ever/

ew no

kris.
December 20th 2013
15504 Comments


"he gets a longer sentenced than most murders, which is completely wrong in my opinion as murder is a worse crime and should be punished accordingly. In the public eye what he's done is far worse than murder, which is frankly ridiculous. Murder should have a longer sentence than this, not saying Watkins sentence should be shorter but it highlights how lax murder is treated in UK courts"


yea i dunno bout that

Hyperion1001
Emeritus
December 20th 2013
25737 Comments


rape and sexual crimes are far worse than murder in my opinion. both are terrible crimes, but sexual
assault strips the humanity away from the victim, forcing them to believe they they are subhuman,
worthless, material objects that have no value except to be exploited for pleasure by other humans and
then forces them to exist as that broken and unfunctional person

basically, a murder ends a life, but rape stops a person from living

Gwyn.
December 20th 2013
17270 Comments


"sexual
assault strips the humanity away from the victim, forcing them to believe they they are subhuman,
worthless, material objects that have no value except to be exploited for pleasure by other humans and
then forces them to exist as that broken and unfunctional person

basically, a murder ends a life, but rape stops a person from living"

Not necessarily, after rape/sexual assault you do still have the chance of eventually coping with it and moving on. It wouldn't be easy, but it's entirely possible if the person really wants to.

You get no extra chances when you die.

evilford
December 20th 2013
64028 Comments


agreed with hype, they're both awful and about as low as humanity can get, but generally, sexual abuse is worse

testament to this is the fact that "justifiable homicide" is recognized in law. there is obviously no such thing as justifiable rape

mryrtmrnfoxxxy
December 20th 2013
16600 Comments


i could get off to him receiving what he put out not gonna lie

DrGonzo1937
Staff Reviewer
December 20th 2013
18249 Comments


He didn't get enough...

anarchistfish
December 20th 2013
30307 Comments


testament to this is the fact that "justifiable homicide" is recognized in law. there is obviously no such thing as justifiable rape

that's cos you can't rape in self defence

as devastating as sexual assault is to someone's mind I can't see how the ending of your entire life could be better, even if the intents behind the perpetrator could arguably be more twisted and evil. at least with sexual assault you might still have at least something

evilford
December 20th 2013
64028 Comments


the criminal intent with rape imo is more sinister and evil than with murder. and the effects on the living can be worse than death. they're both horrendous, nobody said by rape's standards, murder is ok...

apert
December 20th 2013
3236 Comments


agreed with hype, they're both awful and about as low as humanity can get, but generally, sexual abuse is worse

see this is what alot of people think. I personally think that ending someone's life is a far worse thing than sexual abuse. As Fish said someone can recover from sexual abuse but murder is pretty final. Obviously when it comes to sentencing there are a lot more factors to consider, and when children are involved any crime become a lot more serious in public perception. But it would be interesting to see if Watkins would have got more hate had he murdered a baby with the help of the mother

mryrtmrnfoxxxy
December 20th 2013
16600 Comments


i dont think he wouldve

apert
December 20th 2013
3236 Comments


yeah probably not

anarchistfish
December 20th 2013
30307 Comments


the criminal intent with rape imo is more sinister and evil than with murder. and the effects
on the living can be worse than death. they're both horrendous, nobody said by rape's standards,
murder is ok...

I agree with the first part (in many cases) but quantifying the effects of death isn't really
possible. Arguably there is no effect. With murder, absolutely everything is taken away. No chance of
recovery, no choice, no pain but no life either.

evilford
December 20th 2013
64028 Comments


"Arguably there is no effect."

wait what? no effect to what?

mryrtmrnfoxxxy
December 20th 2013
16600 Comments


slipknot

anarchistfish
December 20th 2013
30307 Comments


When you die there is no personal suffering

mryrtmrnfoxxxy
December 20th 2013
16600 Comments


tell that to slipknot rip paul

evilford
December 20th 2013
64028 Comments


"When you die there is no personal suffering"

oh, yeah I know, that's one thing I was alluding to in saying how being a rape victim can be worse than being a murder victim

DatBeefPudding
December 21st 2013
1952 Comments


anyone else getting the feeling watkins was a 4channer?

with the whole "megalolz" thing, and pedophilia being pretty prominent on that site.

Mister Twister
December 21st 2013
2721 Comments


4chan has tracked down and caused the arrest of pedophiles in the past.

Anyways, this guy will not last. 29 years for a pedophile? A lot of pedophiles get murdered by inmates, and he's got plenty of time for an 'accident' to occur. Nobody's gonna miss him.

NordicMindset
December 21st 2013
25137 Comments


They'll drown him in a pool of jizz

I don't think he'll off himself, but I can't speak for anyone else

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
December 21st 2013
47588 Comments


Actually he's already been placed on suicide watch I believe

witchxrapist
December 21st 2013
11117 Comments


i just realized he looks a lot like mark mcgrath, sugar ray's legacy is ruined

evilford
December 21st 2013
64028 Comments


and what a legacy it was

Myrkur
December 21st 2013
164 Comments


Fair punishment

Libertarian
December 29th 2013
113 Comments


This sick twat will get murdered in the slammer.

Good.

NordicMindset
December 29th 2013
25137 Comments


that's not good

he should serve all 29 years and come out deranged and senile

MoosechriS
December 29th 2013
6353 Comments


this is what is so bad about it really is when he gets out he'll be in his late 50's still more than able to go back to doing what he was doing before.

evilford
December 30th 2013
64028 Comments


Nah he's 36 now, even if he makes it to 29 years that'll make him 65



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