Self titled? That just does't work...
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why does every band do self-titleds? i always found it cheesy. that's just me tho
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Hmm, don't have high expectations for this album.
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ugh
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not even gonna bother
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Dream Theater - Dream Theater
Nope, still sounds retarded
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dream theater suck ass
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This could go so badly wrong
And probably will
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If you can't get any good ideas on what to title your album, not looking good to writing whole songs
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sonic
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Stoked to see the what kind of songwriting Chuck Mangione will bring to the table
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I'd listen to Dream Theater with different vocalist.
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Self titled isn't necessarily a bad thing. Mudvayne's self titled album kicked major ass! I'm excited for this new album and will definitely buy.
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mudvayne is the go to band for good self titled albums
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Will be boring.
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At least this isn't their second self titled, like some idiot bands
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gonna be bad
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Looking forward to this. Mangini's writing his drums, there's an instrumental and more Myung lyrics.
Having it self titled shows the band has a lot of confidence in the material, I think. The reasoning behind it was that the album supposedly covers a wide range of their "sounds" from previous albums.
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this will be the best album ever
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Haha, probably not, though I do have a funny feeling this is gonna be their best in a while.
That video tells a lot I think and they looked to have a great time making this (whereas ADTOE was very structured and tense due to having to prove themselves - though I loved it either way)
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This video had a picture of a cake in it.
Cake = Awesome.
Therefore Dream Theater = Awesome.
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disappointed by the last album. Hope this is better, black clouds was ace.
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band needs to give up and die.
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ooooh, self-titled? This could go either way
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Their last album was really good. One of my favorites now actually. Breaking all Illusions is one of the best songs they ever wrote. Can't wait to hear the new album.
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XingKing: "At least this isn't their second self titled, like some idiot bands."
Yeah like Led Zeppelin. Those losers went all the way to 4!
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'This video had a picture of a cake in it.
Cake = Awesome.
Therefore Dream Theater = Awesome.'
Hitler had lots of money
money = awesome
therefore Hitler = awesome
Cool deductive reasoning dude
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fucking creative title.
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wow fuck you all. s/t albums are the best, and this album is gonna rule
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lol negativity.
I'm hopeful, I enjoyed their last album but it didn't hit full potential. I'll hope.
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My prophecy is fullfilling!
Next release by Mike Portnoy: Portnoy - Portnoy.
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Something's wrong. I have a bad feeling
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2-2.5 rating guaranteed
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More instrumental fucking wankery and LaBrie whining. Great.
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Hitler had lots of money
money = awesome
therefore Hitler = awesome
Cool deductive reasoning dude
cool blowing things waaaaaaaaaay our of proportion dude
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If they'd have just kicked out Labrie instead of Portnoy that would have probably made this album a 5 for me. His voice. Ugh.
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A Dramatic Turn of Events really disappointed me, so this won't be a day one buy. It might be good though, who knows.
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"If they'd have just kicked out Labrie instead of Portnoy that would have probably made this album a 5
for me. His voice. Ugh."
I had a better time listening to a group of women giving birth when I was hospitalized than listening
to his voice
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Band is lame.
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I hope they don't release another Dramatic Turn of Events
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me and fade used to sing along to another day together hand in hand good memories
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Agreed they should have kicked Labrie instead of Portnoy. Labrie hasn't sang well since Images and Words...come to think of it that makes it the only time he sang well.
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he rocked on awake
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I guess the gritty Labrie is kinda cool but I'd still point to Images and Words as clearly his best performance.
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Labrie was always awkward with the high notes and Awake has far fewer of them than Images
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I think I've gotten over Portnoy's deat...er...departure enough to be pumped for Mangini's work on this album. Also, I'm really hoping for a concept album, that would be tits.
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@Darkknight3993 Self-titled concept album!!! Genius! Maybe the story is a day in the life of guys married to girls from Meanstreak. Best album ever.
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Are they too well known to be enjoyed by people on here? I don't understand the hate..
Their last album didn't hold up to most of their stuff, but hopefully this is better.
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Band hasn't been good in a long time; album will blow.
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lol
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Album will likely be excellent.
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No it will not!
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Ha! Definitely looking forward to this.
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labrie is cool they just need to be less boring yo
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will be a hard 3
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why does every band do self-titleds? i always found it cheesy. that's just me tho
I've always thought the same. Never liked the idea.
I'm kind of looking forward to this though, as their last album wasn't too shabby.
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The only song from DT I like is Space Dye Vest. Still I appreciate their musicianship
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yeah Space-Dye Vest is the best
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"I see every new album as an opportunity to start over, to either build or improve upon a direction that has been evolving over time or to completely break new ground."
Yeeeeeeeah suuuuuure.
Self titled? Lame, also thats probably a hint to the direction as they're going to try and squeeze all of the bands musics elements into this album. Will prob seem contrived (surprise surprise)
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will be a hard 3 [2]
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I'm so excited. ADTOE is their best album in years, especially after the unnatural and forced sounding Black Clouds & Silver Linings.
Also, who cares if it's a self titled album o.o
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self-titled = lack of creativity as it is like their 15th album or so
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Plus their unwilling to delve into uncharted territory.
Also in the video description they've mentioned being grammy nominee's, that's pretty whore-ish
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I saw it and thought "well, they haven't released a self-titled album yet, so why not?" And if the music is like they're saying and a good representation of the band, then it'll fit.
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yea dude!
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i'm expecting ADTOE pt. 2
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lol who the fuck cares what the title of the album is
i didnt care about their last couple albums, but this could rule
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dude it will!
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it will be metropolis 3
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dude aotc
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maybe manginis drum parts wont be boring as shit this time
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"i'm expecting ADTOE pt. 2"
I was expecting this earlier, it will certainly have a similar vibe.
"And if the music is like they're saying and a good representation of the band"
Dude EVERY band says that about every album of theirs. And we've heard enough albums that represent the band, they need to move out of their comfort zone, thats the point.
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he didn't make his drum parts on ADTOE so probs yeah, at least they can't get any more boring
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rosa i hope this record is extra gay so we can jam it together
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wow fuckin sell out
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Dude EVERY band says that about every album of theirs. And we've heard enough albums that
represent the band, they need to move out of their comfort zone, thats the point.
If you want a different sound, there are plenty of other bands out there. I feel like at this point
in their career, they should focus on giving us another really solid slab of Dream Theater, like their
last album. ADTOE is probably my second favorite by them, right after I&W
A little bit of experimenting here and there (mostly with some of the riffs and in the guitar/keyboard
solos) would be cool, but honestly if we could get another ADTOE i'd be happy.
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I actually have high hopes for this album.
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The last two were great, so my hopes are high!
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"ADTOE is probably my second favorite by them, right after I&W"
oh my.
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Thanks but no thanks.
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A self-titled actually seems quite appropriate to me in this case, this marking the first "real"
collaborative effort with the new lineup.
Edit: as long as everyone's laying out their irrelevent DT opinions here, I think A Dramatic Turn of
Events was very bland; most average release since Falling Into Infinity.
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Will Mangini's drums sound like he's playing beanbags this time?
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FII was a good record, fuck the hate.
ADTOE was very bland [2]. DT don't have the guts to experiment any more, they're worried about their
fanbase, even though they're one of the richer prog bands currently.
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I liked half of FII very much, the stuff the label didn't make them right. And if anyone has the demo bootleg EVERY song is better. i highly recommend seeking it out, it's like the album it should have been
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*write
It's early
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Wow it's like English is your second language. Get it together
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this will probably suck
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yea fuck you die foreign bitch
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ADTOE was solid, very consistent but very few standouts. Definitely much better than systematic chaos and octavarium (overall, Oct has better stand out tracks but some truly terrible ones too).
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Sigh... please, please, PLEASE let Portnoy come back. Fuck sake...
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lol i wish
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Agree too about kicking LaBrie instead of Portnoy, was never a fan of his singing.
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'yea fuck you die foreign bitch'
¿Que?
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Labrie rules fuk the haters
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who the fuck cares about these guys anymore...
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^ Every band does
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the supposedly "leaked" song isnt sounding very good...
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Motiv3 Octavarium>>>>ADTOE
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@Viper link?
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Octavarium>>>>ADTOE [2]
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Octavarium>>>>ADTOE [3]
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You guys knowww
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9wAstB0N9Q
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doesn't sound like DT, sounds like one of the countless DT ripoff bands
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I'm sure it's not authentic
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that "leaked song" had pretty impressive drumming but yeah, doesn't sound like your usual DT. i liked that song nevertheless
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it's probably Bad Salad, they're that band on YouTube that do the split screen DT covers
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dont like it tbh
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Its interesting, it's got a good vibe. I actually hope they would use a sitar on their albums.
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Lol at people trying to figure out what the album will sound like just from the album title.
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Glad we could make you laugh
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I don't understand people asking for Portnoy to come back o.o
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i understand because Mangini bored the hell out of me on ADTOE
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But now since he has like all this freedom and shit he'll whup our asses dude
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omg. but if that song in the link really was DT then Mangini really has moved to a whole new level
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That song was pretty decent, the sitar was a good addition. But obv DT don't have the balls for that kind of shit, come on.
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"ADTOE is probably my second favorite by them, right after I&W"
oh my.
Other than Metroplis, what albums could you say are better? (this isn't a "prove me wrong" comment,
more of an actual curiosity as to what you feel is their best work)
i understand because Mangini bored the hell out of me on ADTOE
Mangini didn't actually write his drum parts, Petrucci wrote them and just let Mangini interpret
them a bit. But Portnoy's control was holding the band back. He kept pushing them to go into a
bland Metallica-inspired "metal" sound on a lot of the songs, and the other stuff sounded like
uninspired attempts at copying other bands. Wither is one of the most forced sounding ballads i've
heard in a long time. His backing vocals are awful. He even said it felt like he was going through
the motions, and the band sounded like they were going through the motions. After he left, the band
sounded much more natural and like they were actually dream theater again. He wrote a good majority
of the lyrics and acted as the spokesperson of the band. Without him gone, everybody else had to
step up to the plate and fill in his shoes. He imposed a lot of "rules" on the writing process of
the band (one that comes to mind being that if your lyrics don't come with music, they won't use it,
a rule that made Myung decide to stop writing lyrics. Everybody knows his lyrics are awesome). It
just seems as if so much "restraint" was lifted off the band when he left. I'll agree that
Portnoy's drum parts sounded better than Manginis did (but like I said, he didn't actually write the
parts), but everything else he did was holding the band back.
tl;dr: Portnoy was controlling Dream Theater too much, now they have more freedom and room to
breathe and it shows.
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@Omair: yeah, really suspicious about that
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"Other than Metroplis, what albums could you say are better?"
Every album from I&W to Octavarium, with some being far better.
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"Other than Metroplis, what albums could you say are better?"
Metropolis is the best yeah but i would say all of their albums except FII, SC and WDADU are better than ADTOE
"Mangini didn't actually write his drum parts, Petrucci wrote them and just let Mangini interpret them a bit."
yes i know that but they still sounded ultra boring and Mangini could've fixed that
"But Portnoy's control was holding the band back. He kept pushing them to go into a bland Metallica-inspired "metal" sound on a lot of the songs, and the other stuff sounded like uninspired attempts at copying other bands. Wither is one of the most forced sounding ballads i've heard in a long time. His backing vocals are awful."
agreed hard, i never said i want Portnoy to come back
actually ADTOE sounds like they didn't really know what they wanna do and decided to make a really safe effort which had some parts of shining but also quite boring (especially the first two ballads) and even awful parts (the instrumental part on Outcry)
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But Portnoy's control was holding the band back. He kept pushing them to go into a bland Metallica-inspired "metal" sound on a lot of the songs, and the other stuff sounded like uninspired attempts at copying other bands. [2]
Thats why they needed the hiatus so that portnoy could let out his nu-metal urges elsewhere.
@Artuma: The instrumental part of Outcry isn't bad, it is overwhelming and long and doesn't feel cohesive with the song.
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Could go either way after their last album, I'll listen to it regardless.
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i have always hated that part on Outcry, otherwise the song is pretty epic except for the lyrics which
are pretty bland
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"Metropolis is the best yeah but i would say all of their albums except FII, SC and WDADU are
better than ADTOE"
I love all of their albums, but I don't really like the more "metal" esque approach they took on
some of the more recent ones (ToT, SC, BC&SL) to me, it doesn't sound like a natural fit for DT.
Six Degrees I love for Glass Prison, Blind Faith, and the 42 minute title track, but the rest
doesn't really do much for me. I could never get into Awake for some reason, and i've never
actually listened to Metropolis all the way through (i'm waiting to actually own it before I listen
to it so I can get the full experience of what's considered their best album)
"yes i know that but they still sounded ultra boring and Mangini could've fixed that"
Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree that they weren't that great and he could have fixed it, I'm simply
saying that I don't think we can properly say who is the better drummer until we hear the full
extent of him on this new album.
"actually ADTOE sounds like they didn't really know what they wanna do and decided to make a
really safe effort which had some parts of shining but also quite boring (especially the first two
ballads) and even awful parts (the instrumental part on Outcry)"
I see where you're coming from, I guess I really liked that they made a "safe" effort. Aside from
Black Clouds, I felt like the past few albums before it were each focused on a different side of
their sound, so I enjoyed a return to a more "typical" Dream Theater sound.
Also, I like the instrumental part of Outcry. I'm not saying it's great, the drum parts are really
boring during it, it's a bit random and directionless, and I can definitely see why one would
dislike it, but something about it always seemed cool to me.
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Why do my comments get spaced out so strangely? It looks really bad...I don't type them like that
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it's totally ok to like ADTOE. but dude i prefer both Awake and Metropolis to I&W, not a fan of ToT either though, mostly exactly because it sounds so much like Metallica
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I mean, I'm just personally saying I love ADTOE and it was exactly what I hoped the album was, If you
prefer Awake and Metropolis that's fine by me haha. One of the cool things about DT though is they
have so many albums that everybody has different favorites, it's not like Megadeth or something where
everybody's favorites are Peace Sells and Rust in Peace.
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true dat but the general opinion is still at least here that I&W, Awake and Metropolis are their best ones and 6DOIT is 4th. i like Octavarium much more than people seem to like it here
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well, I can agree with I&W for sure. The first two songs on 6DOIT and the second disc with the title track are all amazing, but the middle of the album loses me a bit (The Great Debate is one of my least favorite songs by DT)
Octavarium was the album that got me into them when it came out and I've been a big fan ever since, so I love that album but it's hard for me to look at it objectively.
That being said, I listened to that 4 minute clip. Thought it was decent, sounded like DT but wasn't all that interesting aside from the sitar. Still excited about this album, though.
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Awake is absurdly overrated.
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tell me more please
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anti hype train for this is gonna be hilarious
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"Awake is absurdly overrated"
You gave it a 4, so its rated fine.
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lol
>4's an album with 4.1 average
>"absurdly overrated"
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where?
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I hate how everywhere the band/label mentions being grammy nominated
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It's a big achievement for a PROG band
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Yeah yeah, but it's not what matters, priorities
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