Uhh wow, literally just ordered 5. Fucking awesome.

$17 to ship to the UK

yeah it's $17 for the rest of europe too.
Cool if you live in the US or Canada i guess

$17 to ship to Aus. I mean, I'd totally jump on this, but it's just the price of a regular album for me and I need to save my cash

Mad crazy, shame that shipping to Europe costs $17.

Damn that sucks, it was $6 after shipping for 5 to the US. It's still a fucking sweet deal if you grab multiple though I guess.

"yeah it's $17 for the rest of europe too.
Cool if you live in the US or Canada i guess"

Shipping to Canada is 12$...

It'll add 17 bucks per ordered unit

I'm ordering 5 and then selling them to Newbury Comics. Definitely going to triple my money!

I checked and if I were to order the balancing act I would pay 7$ in shipping so I'm not sure what could warrant 12$ with the new album

The cd case is made out of lead

"It'll add 17 bucks per ordered unit"

Oh for real? So 5 to europe is $85 in shipping?

No, $17 total. Plus, they want $3 for 5 albums if you're ordering from outside North America instead of $1. Still, though, $20 for 5 brand new CDs is a great deal.

It said $85 for me when I tried to order 5

if you would get 5 different cds, yes

Ah, now it's $20 for 5, my bad

Yeah I just noticed the shipping price doesn't change depending on quantity ordered. Was gonna order 1 to be nice and let others have their chance but looks like I'm getting 5 and (hopefully) profiting instead.

If you're going to buy 5 cds just so you can sell four for a profit, you're an asshole

Call me an asshole then because that's what I'm doing.

you're an asshole

And honestly, I'm sure Sadistik is happy as long as his music gets out there. His label isn't going to pay for major distribution and if his CDs end up in record stores this way, then he has achieved his goal.

I mean, what else would you do with them? Listen to a different one each day?

Like I said, my plan wasn't to buy 5 at first. But if I'm paying 12$ in shipping for 1 or 12$ in shipping for 5 then fuck it I'll get 5

continue trying to justify yourself go on

Enjoy that imaginary pedestal you're on

was talking to geas

honestly though I don't know what you'd do with 5 anyway and I'm surprised they've made it possible

fish, that's what he wants done with them. I'm not justifying anything. I would be just as content to say that I was buying them entirely for profit. I don't think capitalizing is amoral at all.

already got the vinyl so definitely won't pay 17 bucks for a digipack cd

fish, that's what he wants done with them.

Why do people prefer vinyls to CDs? I've never understood that. Vinyl is obsolete and it doesn't really sound any better.

"Get 5 copies of Flowers for my Father for FREE and give 4 to your friends" Read: distribute them. As long as his name gets out there, he doesn't care what's done with them.

"I mean, what else would you do with them? Listen to a different one each day? "

Give them away? That's what I'm doing with my additional 4, I'll be happy to give the album to 4 buddies of mine.

"Read: distribute them. As long as his name gets out there, he doesn't care what's done with them."

No, that really isn't how you should read that.

That's very charitable of you

ooo a moral battle.

It's actually just the normal thing to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c-CSwrQ1-Lk#at=37

"Give away"

good luck capitalising on something that will probably have a much larger supply than demand anyway. even in that video he said they're gonna try to press as many as possible

Why do people prefer vinyls to CDs? I've never understood that. Vinyl is obsolete and it doesn't really sound any better.

Give them away? That's what I'm doing with my additional 4, I'll be happy to give the album to 4 buddies of mine.

17$ is actually only £11, I might do the same. Although I don't collect CD much anymore

I'm going to go borrow credit cards from my roommates and grab 20 of these things. Unopened brand new CDs have got to be worth $5 each, at least. I'm going to be rich

Why the fuck buy 5? So fucking dumb.

to hand out to your friends to increase sadistik's exposure. that's sort of the point of why he's giving them out for
free, just like demos

no it's so you can sell them to people who decide not to order them free off the site to fuel your own capitalist dream cos you didn't take economics at school and don't know how supply and demand works

fuck that it's just common sense really

I got 5 for $6 with shipping. I think this is a really exciting promo and I'm eager to hand it out to some of my friends who dig hip-hop.

it doesn't matter how many he's giving away, he didn't have national distribution. there aren't going to be any at the record stores and they'll give a general base price for new unopened CDs. there is no established supply, so the demand is unaffected. that's common sense.

i just ordered 55 for $66. I'm going to make 10 million USD

Also (not trying to discredit the guy in any way) but the whole setup of this is a little strange.

Firstly, as I stated repeatedly now, my plan was to buy one. However the shipping for 1 was 12$ which is 5$ more than for the other albums he is selling and more than any other Canada-US cd shipping I've ever encountered before (and almost equivalent to buying a cd at regular price off amazon or at hmv or whatever).

Also the fact he states that we only pay for shipping yet the shipping cost doesn't change for 1,3 or 5 doesn't make much sense either. The people buying the 1 album have to be paying for more than just that and the people buying 5 are probably paying less.

Lastly, you can't "technically" call something free when you charge 0.01, 2.01 and 4.01 (Canadian prices) for it. (Also if we just pay for shipping why are the prices different depending on the region? The shipping cost will change but the item price shouldn't since we're only paying shipping).

I know this sounds like a lot of criticism but I'm not trying to discredit the guy personally here. It's a great effort to try and make his music available to a wide audience for a more reasonable price. However, a lot of the wording seems pretty ambiguous and even inaccurate in some parts.

this is one of the stupidest threads I've read in a long time

hi aids

"Also the fact he states that we only pay for shipping yet the shipping cost doesn't change for 1,3 or 5 doesn't make much sense either. The people buying the 1 album have to be paying for more than just that and the people buying 5 are probably paying less."

I think a lot of this comes down to the fact that Sadistik is charging you on his own little self-made website there. You can't exactly expect him to set up his own shipping calculator to determine exactly how much shipping should cost, so he estimates it on the high end because he certainly doesn't want to be losing money in the whole exchange. OR:

"Lastly, you can't "technically" call something free when you charge 0.01, 2.01 and 4.01 (Canadian prices) for it. (Also if we just pay for shipping why are the prices different depending on the region? The shipping cost will change but the item price shouldn't since we're only paying shipping)."

I think this might actually be his way of compensating for higher shipping charges with larger quantities, and it's just a cheap way of doing it.

All right if he doesn't have distribution it makes some sense.

@scream

have you ever sold a product before? Calculating individual shipping costs for 30,000 shipments potentially is a pain in the ass. I manage projects of $100,000 automation systems and just swag shipping costs when quoting to my customers.

I cant believe this thread. a guy wants to go the mixtape route with his proper release and give it away... leave it to people on sputnikmusic.com to complain in any capacity.

goddammit, I know the cost would be ramped up to get it to Britain. Props to him for doing this, but still, gutted.

"leave it to people on sputnikmusic.com to complain in any capacity."

The point of that post wasn't to complain. Like I said, kudos to him for trying to make his music accessible to a wide audience in a way like this. However, if he was "bending the truth" in order to make it more appealing and lure people in that kind of takes away from the gesture because it shows dishonesty.

That being said, no I don't have experience in this sort of field and that explanation does make sense for the whole giving a price to the Canada and world sections. However, I'm still a little baffled by the whole same shipping price for 1 or 5.

has the battle been won?

by whom?

Hi - Ceschi from Fake Four here to clarify a bit - the cost is for shipping AND Handling. Not only is international shipping quite expensive these days (it went up recently), there's also basically one person shipping out 80% of these things to everyone - he needs to get paid somehow. That's why it's a little more on shipping than the other cds.
The whole ides is to spread the album to people who actually want to listen and share it with others. Cody wanted to do this in a certain way, packaged properly, so people actually care about it more than a free download or even another flimsy slim cased demo. The album already does have worldwide distribution so it's unlikely a place like Newbury Comics would need more copies (they already have enough unless they sold out & didnt order more).

other places to get the free cd in store or with other purchases:
- fakefourinc.com - one comes with every order
- strangefamous.com - Sage Francis' label strange famous will be giving out copies as well with orders
- UGHH.com in Boston
- Access Hip Hop in San Diego
- Fifth Element in Minneapolis
- HHV.de in Germany should have copies to give away soon as well

thanks for the clarification ceschi - im sure most people understood the proper intent!

Yeah thanks Ceschi, I appreciate the post (and the whole act in general)!.

@ceschi makes sense when you put it that way. Thanks for taking the time to clarify that; it is truly appreciated!

This is awesome. And to the guy selling the cds to a store. You suck

just ordered one

i think this is fucking cool

Also I apologize for being a kind of a cynical asshole there. Good luck with the rest of the campaign!

also if you guys haven't heard Ceschi's records, you should check it out.

I bought 1. Seemed like a nice thing for the fans and the record is the ish.

album slays

>Hip-hop
>Slays

Hahaha

Thanks to all of you for checking this out and spreading the word. I understand & dont mind the initial cynicism - we're just trying to make this happen realistically. We'll also be at the Soundset festival in Minneapolis handing out these cds.

I cant believe this thread. a guy wants to go the mixtape route with his proper release and give it away... leave it to people on sputnikmusic.com to complain in any capacity.

good thing I have a coupon code

I got 5 for $6 with shipping. I think this is a really exciting promo and I'm eager to hand it out to some of my friends who dig hip-hop.

Yeah about to do that. This is great.

Sweet.

Ordered one. Feels good.

Awesome, got 5 of them, will give them to my hipster friends

Cool idea

it is a cool idea but why not have it for free digitally as well?

Thanks for the warning, Admiral!

'it is a cool idea but why not have it for free digitally as well?
'
I think if you gave them away for free digitally people would be less inclined to actually see this as
a big deal. if your mate hands you a CD and goes here you go, have a listen, you probably will. If you
just see that some bloke you haven't heard of is releasing an album for free on bandcamp or whatevs
you probably download it and forget about it. That's why doing it like this is better.

This makes me feel kind of sorry for sadistik knowing that now he owes the label a crapload more money. Hopefully this pulls through and his next release gets sales figures that can reflect the success of this promotion.

I also think that it's not for free digitally just because having an actual physical copy for free (or close to it) its more intriguing, and it's also a way better reason for me to hand this out to my friends. I bought 5 because "why not?", and I'm going to hand physical copies to 4 of my friends, which pretty much guarantees they will at least check them out.

On the other hand, I listen to a ton of music and if I just gave digital copies away on flash drives or whatever I don't think my friends would be quite as interested in what I was giving them. They'd probably listen once or twice, but actually owning the physical version gives more incentive to really get into an album that you own.

copped 5. will give 4 to friends.

I don't understand why people would be confused by the "intention" of this

You can ship to Yugoslavia

What

5 for $6 bucks. I get an album and serious trade value.

I'm sold!