Farro Brothers Explain Exit

2010-12-22 by Athom EMERITUS | 168 Comments
Earlier this week pop-rock act Paramore announced that long time members Josh and Zac Farro were leaving the band. Well, singer Hayley Williams' statement isn't sitting well with the brothers and earlier today they released a rather damning statement on their side of the story on their blog. Their statement reveals the formation of the band, Hayley having signed to Atlantic records before the release of their debut and their modest indie-label start being orchestrated by Atlantic, and the inner workings of the band being a never ending cycle of disagreements.

Their entire statement can be read at http://joshnfarro.blogspot.com/2010/12/josh-and-zacs-exit-statement.html

Tagged: Paramore

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Athom
Emeritus
December 22nd 2010
17249 Comments


muy interesante

Defeater
December 22nd 2010
5780 Comments


lol I always knew there was more than one woman in this band

Athom
Emeritus
December 22nd 2010
17249 Comments


haha. could have done with out the bible quotes but still an interesting read. i do feel kind of bad
for him but that's mainly because after seeing hayley's disappointing tit pics i no longer care.

eternium
December 22nd 2010
16358 Comments


Like I figured, they're just mad cause Hayley gets all of the attention.

dcha
December 22nd 2010
990 Comments


As soon as he started quoting bible verses I stopped reading. What a pussy.

wyankeif1337
December 22nd 2010
6739 Comments


As soon as he started quoting bible verses I stopped reading. What a pussy.


because ignoring something on the basis of bible verses makes you a manly man.

Defeater
December 22nd 2010
5780 Comments


You know you're butthurt when you start quoting a book.

eternium
December 22nd 2010
16358 Comments


He did get a little preachy with the way he was using them.

Defeater
December 22nd 2010
5780 Comments


a woman kicked us out of the band

hold me jesus

nash1311
December 22nd 2010
10643 Comments


Honestly, I saw this band one time (granted it was recently) and I could tell that Hayley was a douche and that Zac and Josh weren't happy with the band. She is good, but damn. That just sucks. I would have quit a long time ago.

ebay
December 22nd 2010
501 Comments


Pretty interesting, could see that happening from a mile away though. And dcha, thanks for the ignorant statement, I didn't know being religious made someone a pussy.

wyankeif1337
December 22nd 2010
6739 Comments


what ebay said

Defeater
December 22nd 2010
5780 Comments


"And dcha, thanks for the ignorant statement, I didn't know being religious made someone a pussy. "

Haven't been to a church lately, have you?

nash1311
December 22nd 2010
10643 Comments


And definitely not surprised by all the Bible hate here. The dude was preaching but I mean it's what he believes... Let him quote it.

slep
December 22nd 2010
1604 Comments


hmm, this is interesting. kind of confirms what I had suspected went on behind the scenes with this band.

eternium
December 22nd 2010
16358 Comments


Shut the fuck up before this turns into a religion argument. I'll be fun at first, then turn annoying, then Davey will delete the whole thread.

wyankeif1337
December 22nd 2010
6739 Comments


please, let's start a religious debate on a Sputnik thread. we all know how intelligent and productive those always are here.

wyankeif1337
December 22nd 2010
6739 Comments


eternium beat me to it

wyankeif1337
December 22nd 2010
6739 Comments


and I keep thinking the title reads "Farro Brothers Explain Shit" for some reason

InFiction
December 22nd 2010
3996 Comments


That was a good read and it makes me think differently about Hayley.

slep
December 22nd 2010
1604 Comments


idk I've always suspected that Haley might be a bitch

Kimm
December 22nd 2010
6335 Comments


I say good on those guys.

Thangorodrim
December 22nd 2010
133 Comments


i bet if they put her in her place and told her to make them a turkey sandwich this story would have turned out way different

nash1311
December 22nd 2010
10643 Comments


^ LOL

WhiteNoise
December 22nd 2010
3948 Comments


Well i'm in a band with a chick singer and he hits the nail on the head.

wyankeif1337
December 22nd 2010
6739 Comments


women.

theacademy
Staff Reviewer
December 22nd 2010
31878 Comments


holy shit that is a lot of reading for me to commit to paramore...

Volume4
December 22nd 2010
21 Comments


wouldnt doubt it...good for them

AlexTM510
December 22nd 2010
1512 Comments


as a christian...the religion part is a bit over the top. but yea, pretty crazy. I imagined their band formation and friendships were much more fairytale like hah. And although i didnt think it turn into the hayley willams project...this coming out def. shows that it is.

Relinquished
December 22nd 2010
50089 Comments


"Like I figured, they're just mad cause Hayley gets all of the attention. "

well they couldn't do nothing about it

dcha
December 22nd 2010
990 Comments


Hey, let's not turn my words into something they aren't. I didn't say he was pussy for quoting bible verses, (though he is a pussy for quoting bible verses) he's a pussy for being such a god damn pussy.

kris.
December 22nd 2010
15503 Comments


I FIND THIS ALL TO BE QUITE HUMOROUS

ShadowRemains
December 22nd 2010
28670 Comments


^

Relinquished
December 22nd 2010
50089 Comments


"Hey, let's not turn my words into something they aren't. I didn't say he was pussy for quoting bible verses, (though he is a pussy for quoting bible verses) he's a pussy for being such a god damn pussy."

you just contradicted yourself dumbass

dcha
December 22nd 2010
990 Comments


Yea, okay teenager.

Relinquished
December 22nd 2010
50089 Comments


"I didn't say he was pussy for quoting bible verses, (though he is a pussy for quoting bible verses)"

Thangorodrim
December 22nd 2010
133 Comments


alex wolfe is a fucking man

dcha
December 22nd 2010
990 Comments


Prove my point some more.

kris.
December 22nd 2010
15503 Comments


dude who cares about the bible or what people say about it
read about how butthurt these guys are that hayley's hot and they aren't

Thangorodrim
December 22nd 2010
133 Comments


see?





owned

ShadowRemains
December 22nd 2010
28670 Comments


Yea, okay teenager.


mostly likely coming from one as well, js


Kimm
December 22nd 2010
6335 Comments


I think he did that on purpose to be humorous.
I for one didn't laugh.

Thangorodrim
December 22nd 2010
133 Comments


hayley would be hot if she didn't have that mile long gap

ShadowRemains
December 22nd 2010
28670 Comments


...lol

dcha
December 22nd 2010
990 Comments


U guys mad?

ShadowRemains
December 22nd 2010
28670 Comments


your idea of a mindfuck is seriously warped

kris.
December 22nd 2010
15503 Comments


you guys are dum

theacademy
Staff Reviewer
December 22nd 2010
31878 Comments


he's right (about the semantics) but he's still stupid just for carrying on the argument

dcha
December 22nd 2010
990 Comments


Right now you're not sure if serious.



fucked

Thangorodrim
December 22nd 2010
133 Comments


if fucked my mind you meant made yourself look dumb then yes my mind is completely, 100% fucked

dcha
December 22nd 2010
990 Comments


It's just a little fun.

killrobotmusic
December 22nd 2010
676 Comments


Wait there are other people in this band besides the chick?

Relinquished
December 22nd 2010
50089 Comments


"It's just a little fun."

no you just need a life and friends

dcha
December 22nd 2010
990 Comments


I think you're just being mean now.

Neurisis of Luna
December 22nd 2010
413 Comments


holy shit

iswimfast
December 22nd 2010
1546 Comments


what a pair-a-morons.

Electric City
December 22nd 2010
15756 Comments


awesome

LetoAtreides
December 22nd 2010
314 Comments


I honestly really respect them for this.

SCREAMorphine
December 22nd 2010
1849 Comments


Not going to change much

Eskate87
December 22nd 2010
959 Comments


this is great news

whywontyoudie
December 22nd 2010
3067 Comments


sucks that they were miserable for so long, but they should have quit sooner.

AtomicWaste
Moderator
December 22nd 2010
2918 Comments


The contract shit is fucked up, but not surprising. Hayley doesn't sound like too bad a person from this, tbh, but everyone around her sounds pretty lame.

We'll see how the hired-guns mentality treats this band down the road. Works for Megadeth!

Kimm
December 22nd 2010
6335 Comments


I think it sucks that the values of the band changed so much. You definitely can tell from
their latest album that the message is less positive.

Reading this makes me want to write a review actually for Brand New Eyes.

Satellite
December 22nd 2010
26539 Comments


that was honestly a good read.

MalcolmX
December 22nd 2010
56 Comments


Good interesting read. I never really cared for their music. But honestly can you really make assumptions about people based on their religious views. sounds like a cheap shot to me.

Captain North
December 22nd 2010
6793 Comments


The statement was going so well until all the god stuff. Ah well, it did reveal some things I never realised. For one - just how manufactured the band is.

wyankeif1338
December 22nd 2010
167 Comments


and how much of a bitch Hayley is
if her tits were better I might let it pass

BrahTheSunGod
December 22nd 2010
1280 Comments


Honestly though, does this surprise anyone?

wyankeif1338
December 22nd 2010
167 Comments


nope

foreverendeared
December 22nd 2010
14745 Comments


She probably didn't realize she was being a bitch tbh. If these guys had just grown some balls and were honest and approached her about it.... well, who knows?

Kimm
December 22nd 2010
6335 Comments


I'm sure they did at some point...

KnuckleChowder
December 22nd 2010
157 Comments


GUYS, I HERD THIS WAS ALL IN GOD'S PLAN.

CrownOfMagnets
December 22nd 2010
2334 Comments


I agree with Wyankeif about the tits

Captain North
December 22nd 2010
6793 Comments


forever...I don't think SHE has the balls to have done anything about it. Sounds like she's practically owned by her parents and management.

vakuola
December 22nd 2010
292 Comments


Religious quotes were just a little unnecessary, not because of the fact that they're kind of bothersome, but because they don't "preach" in their songs, so, they seem to be out of context. Anyway, it seems Hayley will do just fine without them, it's HER band, nobody ever doubted that.

foreverendeared
December 22nd 2010
14745 Comments


Yeah, I figured that boiled down to her just being really young and stupid and naĂŻve, but who knows.

Zanders
December 22nd 2010
709 Comments


Gotta love corporate rock.






Just wait, Haley Williams will have a very successful solo career. That's mostly all their silly fans cared about anyway.

Kimm
December 22nd 2010
6335 Comments


Vakuola - no it's not preachy but there are connotations

"We are broken, what must we do to restore our innocence...
Give us life again,'cause we just want to be whole. Tower over me."

There are more. The band had shared values and a message to convey, and now Haley wants to wrote song lyrics completely contrary to those things.

Zanders
December 22nd 2010
709 Comments


It really figures that Haley Williams would be the problem. I assumed that first thing when I heard that these guys left the band.

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
December 22nd 2010
32288 Comments


I love their reasoning

She was reading the bible and saying things like "well i disagree" and "no, that's not right". Right then we knew we needed to pack it in and get the fuck outta dodge

Kimm
December 22nd 2010
6335 Comments


Deviant you're missing the whole point.


Against Miik!
December 22nd 2010
215 Comments


I'm not gonna immediately take their side and say Hayley is a bitch. It's possible that all these things happened, in fact they probably did. But Paramore started when Hayley was what, 14 or 15? Honestly it was probably mostly the work of her insane bible belt parents and record execs looking to take advantage of her. 15 year old girls aren't intentionally manipulative. Just dumb and immature.

As for the bible lyrics. She was right to tell them to fuck off. Thats just normal band shit. She's the lyricist.

tombits
December 22nd 2010
3583 Comments


the bible quoting was a bit lol but still an interesting read

DaveyBoy
Emeritus
December 22nd 2010
22503 Comments


"...then Davey will delete the whole thread."

Eternium, I think you may be getting me mixed up with Dave.

Like Against Miik! suggested, when young girls start doing anything professionally so young (think tennis players, etc...), their parents can be very very controlling (for more than one reason).

minimesmyidol
December 22nd 2010
314 Comments


looks like hayley was the one playing god...

vakuola
December 22nd 2010
292 Comments


Moral: music is not the way to express your religious views.
How many band examples do you need?

cvlts
December 22nd 2010
9956 Comments


very interesting read

Dogget
December 22nd 2010
781 Comments


I wonder if hayley will just go solo or if they'll try and maintain the whole 'paramore is a real band' thing

Gothic666manz
December 22nd 2010
27 Comments


hey i hear Mike Portnoy's free......

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
December 22nd 2010
32288 Comments


Deviant you're missing the whole point.


And you're taking me too seriously


LuminousFire95
December 22nd 2010
17 Comments


I heard the blog is a fake but I dunno what to believe lol

cvlts
December 22nd 2010
9956 Comments


uh-oh.

LuminousFire95
December 22nd 2010
17 Comments


http://www.kerrang.com/blog/2010/12/ex-paramore_guitarists_blog_is.html

even if you look at the blog ... it was created in december and only has 1 post.
hmmmmmmmmm ....

foreverendeared
December 22nd 2010
14745 Comments


Because it was specifically created to announce their departure I'm sure. No way this is a fake.

Dogget
December 22nd 2010
781 Comments


the whole 'blog is fake' thing is probably just atlantic or whoever owns paramore now trying to cover it all up

bodiesinflight57
December 22nd 2010
870 Comments


ROFL

foreverendeared
December 22nd 2010
14745 Comments


i almost started crying during this

LuminousFire95
December 22nd 2010
17 Comments


yeh i have no clue what to believe lol

Strider
December 22nd 2010
4699 Comments


I don't get why they didn't quit earlier if this was the case. I mean, if it's money the only thing that motivated them, then they had what was coming. the bros are so butthurt right now, getting all preachy...

AlmightyHabeeb
December 22nd 2010
108 Comments


Yeah, pretty sure this is genuine.

But if it WAS fake, that'd be pretty fucking funny.

TheStarclassicTreatment
December 22nd 2010
2910 Comments


This seems pretty genuine.

I feel bad for the guy, seems like he got screwed over.

LegendofPittman
December 22nd 2010
2960 Comments


That whole statement didn't surprise me at all.

GulliKyro
December 22nd 2010
357 Comments


William's can always chop and change the backing band and keep the Paramore name, sorta like Megadeth without all the Speedballs. I doubt either of the statements are actually truthful.

omnipanzer
December 22nd 2010
21827 Comments


Oh, not this story again.

SCREAM!
December 22nd 2010
15755 Comments


Guys seems like such a pussy right from the start

"I got a call a while after that from Hayley telling me that her manager said that Zac and I were invited to be back in the band (the band we started), but not Taylor and Jason because they weren’t good enough in his eyes."

Shouldve fuckin grown a pair and told her that then

foreverendeared
December 22nd 2010
14745 Comments


never say paramore and megadeth in the same sentence again... ever

SaveYourBreath
December 22nd 2010
211 Comments


Unless it's Paramore are better than Megadeth, obviously.

GulliKyro
December 22nd 2010
357 Comments


Oh I'll say it, I already said it several times and just photoshopped Mustaine's head to William's body.

clumsydonkey
December 22nd 2010
29 Comments


Confirmed that the statement is real... It is linked on one of their wife's blogs. jennalfarro.blogspot.com

BallsToTheWall
December 22nd 2010
52578 Comments


FARRO NEEDS A SNICKERS, HE'S ACTING LIKE ARETHA FRANKLIN

highanxiety
December 22nd 2010
8 Comments


interesting read. at least we know the whole paramore thing really was a ruse. didn't like this band to begin with though. the singer has disappointing tots and seems like a total cunt.

silentstar
December 22nd 2010
2528 Comments


Well, I was dead right when I said that Hayley was to blame, meh, I kinda feel sorry for the brothers now...

Sevhead
December 22nd 2010
569 Comments


"paramore sucks, but this is an okay read! wait, nvmnd, bible thumper."

jcfiasco
December 22nd 2010
465 Comments


this is super funny. the way that she signed to atlantic without telling their fans is roflxcore but if I had ever cared about this band at all honestly that would kinda piss me off. good ol grass roots movements lolz.


also the comments on their page are too funny as well.

"I almost cried when I read this.. Thanks for making great music" like the farro brothers are some musical geniuses ha ha. Oh well another shitty band bites the dust.. Maybe Potony can be their new drummer?

poweroftheweez
December 22nd 2010
1298 Comments


idk why everyones hatin so hard, id leave that mosquitotit bitch too, from the sound of it they were consistently getting the label shaft

SoapySoap
December 22nd 2010
865 Comments


He could really use a wish right now.

Apollo
December 22nd 2010
10691 Comments


who cares

fr33convict
December 22nd 2010
11723 Comments


"Maybe Potony can be their new drummer?"

1. Portnoy
2. Zac is a drummer

silentstar
December 22nd 2010
2528 Comments


He could really use a wish right now. [2]

sollopsist
December 22nd 2010
182 Comments


Obligatory I'd tap Hayley comment.

crowing51
December 22nd 2010
3505 Comments


''Just wait, Haley Williams will have a very successful solo career. That's mostly all their silly fans cared about anyway.''

^This

impoppy
December 22nd 2010
2286 Comments


I never saw The truth never set me free as a biblical contradiction. just saying that she had to make the effort for the truth to set her free. But whatever. Bitches will be bitches. Hayley is still awesome, even though she's now coming across as the Axl Rose of pop punk.

Ayon
December 22nd 2010
160 Comments


He could really use a wish right now. [3]

Surprisingly good read.

Pessimist
December 22nd 2010
191 Comments


It was pretty interesting until he started talking about Brand New Eyes and the bible. The lyrics on Careful are some of my favorite off their discography.

tiesthatbind
December 22nd 2010
7441 Comments


lol at all the retarded bible bashing comments.

Bull with Gloves
December 22nd 2010
30 Comments


Sounds like drama....who knows who's telling the story accurately without emotions distorting their perspective. They're a manufactured pop-punk band with no punk. Furthermore the quality of a band is measured not just by their music, but by their reliability, consistency and the dynamic the members share. Like their music or not, looks like these guys got marketed, managed and packaged up the ass from a very early age, didn't get a chance to develop as a group (or run their course to an eventual end) and they destablilized under the pressure.

Athom
Emeritus
December 22nd 2010
17249 Comments


RT @JordanETID holy shit, Hayley got special treatment!?! Well, i'm SURE they would have been JUST as successful without her


sums up my thoughts on the band as a whole.

nash1311
December 22nd 2010
10643 Comments


My whole thing still is... Why didn't they quit a long time ago? And what is even funnier... the dude wrote about lots of shit that went down about her manager being a douche and her parents as well and everything being about hayley and then he's like... oh and then we dated for a year and a half. Why? That just complicates things more... and surely you could have gotten in other girls pants...

Athom
Emeritus
December 22nd 2010
17249 Comments


he had an opportunity to tap dat ass and took it. it's what any man would have done in that situation.

nash1311
December 22nd 2010
10643 Comments


^ You don't have to date to "tap that ass." And any "real" man would understand as much.

nash1311
December 22nd 2010
10643 Comments


But I guess with him being his Bible beating self (and I am a Christian), he felt the need to date her first.

Athom
Emeritus
December 22nd 2010
17249 Comments


he seems pretty fundie, probably his way for rationalizing premarital sex.

Athom
Emeritus
December 22nd 2010
17249 Comments


exactly

nash1311
December 22nd 2010
10643 Comments


^ Agreed.

crowing51
December 22nd 2010
3505 Comments


Mike Portnoy should just join and then change the band name to 'Progmore'

tiesthatbind
December 23rd 2010
7441 Comments


Paranoy

telebyrd
December 23rd 2010
869 Comments


who cares.

MikeySwitz
December 23rd 2010
15 Comments


[Paranoy]
^ LOL

NigelH
December 23rd 2010
1571 Comments


Band sucks. Who cares.

wittwright
December 23rd 2010
679 Comments


lots of douchebaggery filling the thread...
but yes, I'd have to say that I believe most of his statement because I though Hayley had the potential to be a bitch, and I'd have put hayley's dad right on his ass with a swift kick to his head!

spillingmercury
December 23rd 2010
877 Comments


What's sad is that no one will really notice they're gone.

And they'll probably just end up as momentary angst fodder for Hayley's lyrics, which will hit the radio and become a success.

gg.

Awesomesauce
December 23rd 2010
1092 Comments


So this story is keeping me super entertained. Paramore is a manufactured band by a major label? Who woulda thunk it?! FBR being nothing more than a front for Atlantic is hardly surprising either.
Still, this shit has been going on for years.

Defeater
December 23rd 2010
5780 Comments


lol still talking about this

the bottom line is she's a bleeder and she'll get her way in the end

Athom
Emeritus
December 23rd 2010
17249 Comments


Bands are signed to majors and then downstreamed to smaller labels or label subsidiaries all the fucking time. hell even The Bronx, the epitome of quality hardcore punk in the 2000s, had that happen with them when they were still on Island.

Awesomesauce
December 23rd 2010
1092 Comments


10 points to these guys too. So they might be bible-bashing dickheads with a lot of growing up to do, but they sacrificed a guaranteed cash cow and put their money where their mouths are.

Defeater
December 23rd 2010
5780 Comments


yeah that's how bad they longed for attention

good thing they're getting it now

Athom
Emeritus
December 23rd 2010
17249 Comments


bible-bashing? wrong word. you meant bible-thumping.

Awesomesauce
December 23rd 2010
1092 Comments


Redsky,
The Bronx were a bit different though. They were always straight up about being signed to Island and used to make jokes about it in interviews. There was no mention of existing contracts with majors with these pipsqueeks. They were pushed through FBR to seem like a real band, when they were, and always have been, manufactured pop music with slightly distorted guitars.

Awesomesauce
December 23rd 2010
1092 Comments


Ah, yeah. That's what I meant. Too much whisky for breakfast.

wittwright
December 23rd 2010
679 Comments


^The Breakfast of Champions!

DeathByDaydream
December 23rd 2010
546 Comments


I thought it was a normal, unfortunate but accepted phenomenon that the vocalist always gets the most attention...That's why they're called the frontman(/frontwoman?).

MoosechriS
December 23rd 2010
6353 Comments


Wait, wait, wait..... You mean....... You mean to say that paramore isn't just Hayley with hired guns.....

Mind equals blown

IndieOut
December 23rd 2010
498 Comments


i bet a lot of bands are manufactured and it just rarely gets uncovered.

thumbcrusher
December 23rd 2010
3798 Comments


i bet a lot of bands are manufactured and it just rarely gets uncovered.


loads pop bands with intstant success are pretty manufactured. and with x factor and that idol thing in the us, they're just making something to get them a couple of guaranteed no. 1s.

MoosechriS
December 23rd 2010
6353 Comments


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This man speaks the damn truth!!!!

nebuzad0
December 23rd 2010
38 Comments


I quite enjoyed the part about how Haley cheated on her wife, WHILE SHE WAS DOING CHEMOTHERAPY. Crazy news guys!

Awesomesauce
December 23rd 2010
1092 Comments


Further reading:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040816125654/www.arancidamoeba.com/mrr/howthegameworks.html

http://www.ram.org/ramblings/philosophy/fmp/albini.html

Both articles are from MAXIMUMROCKNROLL #133. Circa 1993. Oldskool zine is oldskool.

eyedea420
December 23rd 2010
160 Comments


FUCK ALL OF THEM!

heyadam
December 23rd 2010
4453 Comments


damnit I didn't think anybody was gonna post this news, I was gonna post it later tonight:p It kinda is messed up how Hayley/Hayley's family/the managers handled everything though

FromDaHood
December 24th 2010
9111 Comments


Hayley's a bitch. She pushed her band's equipment cart into me while I was standing in line at Warped and then yelled at me to "Get the fuck out of the way." Kind of turned me off to the band

FromDaHood
December 24th 2010
9111 Comments


I'm completely serious

thumbcrusher
December 24th 2010
3798 Comments


I quite enjoyed the part about how Haley cheated on her wife


lol this just got interesting =P

foreverendeared
December 24th 2010
14745 Comments


this is so facepalm worthy

GiveMeHam
December 28th 2010
15 Comments


Anything that brings Jesus-y pop-rock music a step closer to being done is a good thing.

GnarlyShillelagh
December 31st 2010
6385 Comments


"God is going to do great things with us"

Knott-
Emeritus
December 31st 2010
10259 Comments


I was kinda nodding my head until they started quoting the bible then I was out.

FadeToBlack
December 31st 2010
11043 Comments


tl;dr

something about the dumb whore being dumb

Knott-
Emeritus
December 31st 2010
10259 Comments


also:

Why didn't they quit a long time ago?


Exactly. I mean this shit paints Hayley in a bad light but at the end of the day they made a decision to go along with something probably because of the money so basically fuck them.



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