wow

lol

Snoop should just offer him a blunt and make it all better

what ^ said

Snoop should just fuad.

lmao

what a basshole!

Poop Dogg

I got 50 guns and I love all of em' the same, bang-bang.

lol poop dogg.

that made me lol, well done.

Good luck to him, I hope Snoop Dog pays heavily for his lack of originality / creativity in the last 20 years.

Hit 'n' run, git it done.

people still sue rappers for sampling?

idiots haha

..or, rappers are idiots for ignoring copyright laws and stealing music. DERR. I hope he gets sued. Good.

Snoops so fucking lame these days

mother fuckers are always suing for old stuff in the past.

Snoop's biggest mistake was getting pussy whipped at like 18 to that buttnasty broad of his

lol ^

if snoop was actually selling the song/mixtape then it's deserved

"mother fuckers are always suing for old stuff in the past."


im thinking about suing somebody for their future actions, change things up a bit.

^ lol, lemme know how that turns out!

leeeeeeeeaveeee snooop alooooooooooooonee

omg ilikeforests how do you come up with these hysterical responses??

fuck yeah

Snoop should just fuad.

fuck off and die

how does u = off i'm confused

i think he meant foad

he might not have though i'm gonna sit here eagerly for emim to post and explain

Rich men in search of more money. Why does this not surprise me?

..or, rappers are idiots for ignoring copyright laws and stealing music. DERR. I hope he gets sued. Good.

you're a retard if you think sampling music is the same as borrowing techniques.

It is of the same artistic merit, pretty fucking clear that is what I was implying.

And why is ripping off borrowing and sampling stealing? Did The Beatles give the techniques they took back? Snoop Dogg was making new use of existing audio recording, by decontextualizing it and using it for different instrumental effect. I suppose you believe that collages aren't art now?

unless you copyright a technique, its not the same.

dude, you have to pay a sampling fee, regardless of sampling being its own art form or not. very likely poop dog will have to pay the man

decontextualizing it and using it for different instrumental effect

hahahaha

there's no point in using that argument with me, I have noting but utter distaste for copyright laws.

and pay the sampling fee? If he bought the record with the sample on it, then he should be able to do what he wants with it.

http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/D/j/ashcroft_porn_collage.jpg

according to beatific that isn't art. js.

when did rap fans get so dumb. i guess they always were though

rap isn't the only genre to use sampling you fucking idiot.

yeah that's exactly the point i was making when i sad rap fans were dumb

and pay the sampling fee? If he bought the record with the sample on it, then he should be able to do what he wants with it.

is it marked by their incapability of spelling "said"?

And Dunpeal I know that's not how it legally works. That's why I'm advocating copyright reform.

copyright makes a huge difference whether you like it or not man. thats kind of what these cases are based on.

im pretty sure sampling was once an experimental technique... who is owed for that?

aw man i ran out of original points i'll just point out a typo

ok, well then i really don't get where you intended to go with this. doggy is probably fuct or at the very least he's out some serious cash for legal fees

LOL. You're the one who instead of arguing resorted to calling me "dumb" and writing "hahaha" in response to arguments.

Dunpeal, I'm defending sampling as a technique, not Snoop Dogg.

oh i c


you have quite the uphill battle there. lawyers will kill you before they see you succeed on that front

Enotron you are a complete moron. Sampling someone else's work is akin to copying someone's book. Are you saying that if I buy a book at the store, that I should be able to sell the exact same book (with maybe a chapter added) with my name on it, and say that I did it? Because that's what Snoop Dogg essentially did. You have to ask permission before sampling somebody's else's work, otherwise it is plagiarism. So sorry, you are wrong. If the world worked the way you wanted it too, everyone would take credit for everyone else's songs.

It's funny because you 5'd both Angel Dust and a Mr. Bungle album, BOTH which use sampling bahahahaha. Listen to Since I Left You by The Avalanches and Endtroducing by DJ Shadow(seriously). That's all I have to say.

YOU 5'd GODSPEED! Dude the amount of samples they use is actually ridiculous.

Snoop Dogg didn't take credit for it. Everybody knows he uses samples, it's fucking hip hop. It's not about writing songs, it's about taking an element from an existing piece of music and manipulating it for a new, unique use. Check out RIP; A Remix Manifesto. It's a good documentary and explains my views clearly.

*it's not about claiming songs

http://films.nfb.ca/rip-a-remix-manifesto/

jesus kid shut the fuck up

omg ilikeforests how do you come up with these hysterical responses??

i like to drink late at night. but why am i explaining myself to someone who digs coheed and cambria?


also I don't see why people aren't getting Enotron's point... I thought more people would agree with him. His view of 'what's ok' in sampling is very far from plagiarism. Manipulating works of art is the same process of making art from scratch. You're just taking something and expressing it through your own filter.

There obviously has to be some discretion though...'cause sampling an entire song and just changing the drum beat isn't exactly creative. The problem is establishing this line and how you'd prove your points legally.

"Are you saying that if I buy a book at the store, that I should be able to sell the exact same book (with maybe a chapter added) with my name on it, and say that I did it? Because that's what Snoop Dogg essentially did."

dude, you're an idiot

^Whoah now coheed is amazing

And you're free to sample other artists work and "manipulate it" as you so choose. You just have to pay a sampling fee otherwise its an instant copyright violation, and I have not problem with that.

jesus kid shut the fuck up

and I think qwe put it best when he said "Coheed are a poor man's Mars Volta". But whatever, that's trivial and subjective : )

Well thats probably why I like both coheed and tmv. Although qwe is definitely misguided

haha I wuv qwe.

but getting back on topic, one of the problems with sample fees is how distorted they are by corporations. An estimate was made that Girl Talk, for his album Night Ripper, owed 4,200,000 dollars worth in sampling fees to Warner Bros, Universal etc. The Avalanches dive deeper into plunderphonics than he does, I think they're just too obscure to sue.

shit double post

I'll have to side with Enotron here.

As long as permission is given, fees are paid (if need be) and credit is given, then I don't really see an issue.

normally miles davis>snoop but snoop wins this one for me

Holy shit, andcas, slow down on the news commenting!

An estimate was made that Girl Talk, for his album Night Ripper, owed 4,200,000 dollars worth in sampling fees to Warner Bros, Universal etc. The Avalanches dive deeper into plunderphonics than he does, I think they're just too obscure to sue.

I see. Who's in your avatar?

I just couldn't tell who it was. I thought he looked familiar though ;)