Always hated this band but holy shit some of these stories are nuts

What a piece of shit from a piece of shit band

Nice

tumblr lol

we sleep forever is such a jam

Garbage band anyways.

yea horrible band but god damn these are fucking horrible stories

Those pictures are painful to look at...

The #MeToo movement claims another presumably innocent victim.

Sounds like bullshit but whatever

Wow, that tumblr post is fucking disgusting. What a gigantic pile of shit.

“The #MeToo movement claims another presumably innocent victim.”

are the fucking screenshots and pictures of the bruised victims not enough for you?

"The #MeToo movement claims another presumably innocent victim."

this is a joke right? or did you not click the link and see the evidence?

if your first instinct is to show up on this thread and say this wasn't real, click the link first. it's scarring.

"The #MeToo movement claims another presumably innocent victim."

Is this a "symptom" of getting old and dragging everyone down with you? Looks like a symptom of just being shitty to me.

GetLOw is trolling you guys.

" are the fucking screenshots and pictures of the bruised victims not enough for you?
this is a joke right? or did you not click the link and see the evidence?
if your first instinct is to show up on this thread and say this wasn't real, click the link first. it's scarring.

Is this a "symptom" of getting old and dragging everyone down with you? Looks like a symptom of just being shitty to me."

yall need to up your troll filter game

chuck gets it

e d g e

1) you can never tell on the internet these days
2) it's not a funny joke and it should stop happening
3) people interpret these jokes as real and perpetuate the problem

damn dude this is f'd

yea let's just get every modern website to roll back its security a decade and stop using https

Pretty sure getlow is trolling (which seriously this isn't fucking funny dude) but for anyone who doubts the validity on the blog there's a video of a woman crying and being slapped across the face and you can see it's him because of his tattoos. Even if she consented and this is some wild conspiracy against him he's still a misogynistic piece of shit that beats women

http://mandymurderxo.tumblr.com/post/174638243619/mandymurderxo-this-fucking-bastard-needs-to-be

"Stop The Sex Cult, a blog on Tumblr, has collected various different accounts of abuse that Francis has committed, complete with photos and a video (trigger warning):"

give me a fucking break, tumblr isn't news.

who gives a fuck what site it's on. are you actually retarded

Lol, Francis literally was questioned for this by the police over a year ago, provided proof that it was consensual hardcore bdsm with adults, then the detective recommended no charges. This sex cult nonsense originated from a tumblr girl who got mad that Will was married and wouldn't sleep with her.

"Lol, Francis literally was questioned for this by the police over a year ago, provided proof that it was consensual hardcore bdsm with adults, then the detective recommended no charges. This sex cult nonsense originated from a tumblr girl who got mad that Will was married and wouldn't sleep with her."

quite literally what I was about to say, this stuff has been circulating for a while, I don't think this has much weight to it.

Hellscythe hates retarded people.

e x p o s e d

Just because they consented doesn't mean he's not an abusive scumbag. Did you not see the pictures where girls have fucking blood in their eyes?

i’m shocked a guy who gave himself the name “william control” led a bdsm sex cult

"Just because they consented doesn't mean he's not an abusive scumbag. Did you not see the pictures where girls have fucking blood in their eyes?"

Now I´m not about to defend the scum bag, but have you checked the BDSM tag on pornhub, shit gets rough, not saying what he did was right, im saying shit gets hella murky once you bring that to the table, also I see some conversations where it seems to me like the ladies deleted their messages or only showed what he wrote to them, again, not defending, but that shit as evidence is pretty weak.

Now I´m not about to defend the scum bag, but have you checked the BDSM tag on pornhub, shit gets rough, not saying what he did was right, im saying shit gets hella murky once you bring that to the table, also I see some conversations where it seems to me like the ladies deleted their messages or only showed what he wrote to them, again, not defending, but that shit as evidence is pretty weak.

[2]

"Where girls have fucking blood in their eyes"

One of my ex girlfriend's and I were deep into BDSM and knife play, she loved to cut me up and vice versa. Don't calls kinks abusive, some people love pain, even bloodplay is its own fetish dude.

you see, I think snide is a fucking creep but i wouldnt call him an abuser... yet

Snide I just can't.

snide no sniding

I'd imagine most goths are into kinky shit. It's the main theme of the Gothic subculture.

I'm a creep for having consensual sex with a 28 year old woman? Lmao

We're coming so much closer to lynch mobs and public lynching everyday it's scary.
Here for example, why do we have access to pictures and video ? Who are we ? Why should we be the one to judge ?

no but ur a dweeb for not getting sarcasm bud

no snide you're just a creep in general

Lol he's right though, i know nothing about this Wil guy, but consensual BDSM is not abuse.

i break my girlfriend's carpal bones during sex and set her hair on fire she loves it

killed my gf and fucked her corpse but she was into it

I mean, if shes into it.

put her ashes in a phallic urn and massage ur prostate with it so she can be with you forever

let's be honest here, those girls needs help - but certainly not from the police.

maybe they need help from both genius

nah they need jesus

Wow some of the users here are fucking stupid.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N5YL2NfXf34

they need jesus the mexican-american police officer agreed

They don't need advice from an exposed retard hater.

retards killed my parents

You never told me both your parents died during childbirth...

Would've been funnier if you said Jesus the bowling guy.

yeah I shot out of my mom's vag so hard I hit my dad and knocked him out the third story hospital window

damn.

I get being into kinky shit, like I had submissive fantasies for years and honestly still do, but at this point I just think if you get hard from beating your partner or pretending to rape them you're just fucked up in the head. Ngl there's so many people nowadays who don't use critical thinking skills and think it's worse to shame people for engaging in rape play than actually engaging in it lmao.
I know all the shit about safe words and consent, but that doesn't stop a shit ton of doms from taking advantage of their subs, plus a lot of people literally forget their safe words when they want to stop due to sensory overload. Oh and at least one of these stories one of women said she was black out drunk to the point she couldn't even feel it when he whipped her, so if her story is to be believed her case was definitely rape

Fucking lol @ hell

"one of these stories one of women said she was black out drunk to the point she couldn't even feel it when he whipped her, so if her story is to be believed her case was definitely rape"

That one is a bit conflicting cause in her own words she wanted to do it and was left "emotionaly scarred" cause he wanted to bang her friend not her, asshole scumbag thing to do, but how do you define consent if you really wanna move forward with something and then back out if its not your thing, it doesnt seem to me like the situation moved forward after she said she didnt wanted to have a 3some with him and her friend, again, its too murky, and i doubt anybody can make heads or tails out of something like that in a m u s i c site

^ oh yeah I forgot that case didn't move past that point my bad. I mean yeah you can argue that one wasn't technically rape because there wasn't intercourse but he still beat her for sexual degradation while she was too drunk to really consent

He does look like a piece of shit lol.

10/10 looks like a pedo if im honest

never trust a pop punker, sans hopefully the guys from TWY (don't let me down, Soupy).

Soupy is the only one I trust tbh

next headline "Soupy Arrested for pleasuring a male horse"

Wow some of the users here are fucking stupid. [1,000,000]

Upcoming Sput news headline:

"Soupy Soups Underage Girl"

Guy is a fuckin mutant

"I get being into kinky shit, like I had submissive fantasies for years and honestly still do, but at this point I just think if you get hard from beating your partner or pretending to rape them you're just fucked up in the head. Ngl there's so many people nowadays who don't use critical thinking skills and think it's worse to shame people for engaging in rape play than actually engaging in it lmao.
I know all the shit about safe words and consent, but that doesn't stop a shit ton of doms from taking advantage of their subs, plus a lot of people literally forget their safe words when they want to stop due to sensory overload. Oh and at least one of these stories one of women said she was black out drunk to the point she couldn't even feel it when he whipped her, so if her story is to be believed her case was definitely rape"

log off

I believe these women, their retellings are powerful and necessary. I also read, though, that William apparently went to the authorities about this and they agreed no charges should be pressed against him. Among the many stories I've read about abused people coming forward and their abusers denying everything, I've never seen something like that said before. I don't know if it's true or just really bold.

Hey Siren, what's up? I honestly hope you're doing well. You haven't been on Sput for very long, judging by your profile. I'd just like to remind you that one thing a lot of the Sputnik community likes to do is show respect to women, as well as other users of the site. I understand that it may not be your thing, but in order to blend into the community like a lot of new users might have to do, try showing respect.

Lmao, you think you need to be respectful in order to blend into the sput community? Are you sure we're talking about the same website?

in almost 10 years around here I can say that the least thing these fuckers are is being respectful of anything

When it comes to what I've received, I get a lot of kindness from you guys. If you're trying to tear me down, please notify me, because I can't tell.

Oh I just thought you were trolling bc threads like this usually devolve into garbage fires pretty quick.

See I knew this was all bullshit

As if I needed anymore justification to hate this band and their unbelievably bad albums, lead singer being a sexual abuser on top of already being a Godawful vocalist will do it.

I can only imagine the kind of people who would show at a William Control concert. Fat chicks, I bet. I’m sure they would bring glowsticks and ecstasy and have a RAVING good time, haha!!!! I might have to buy a ticket if he comes near my area so I can fill a water bottle up with piss and throw it at him. It shouldn’t be too hard, he probably couldn’t book a venue that holds more than fifteen people. I’m sure it would be extremely dark in there too, but I’d have to wait for the disco ball to stop shining on me. Preferably I would throw it at him during this song’s spoken word part.

Are there venues that hold less than fifteen people?

He probably plays shows in one of his fan's garages and living rooms these days, it's more shocking that he even had any passionate female fans in 2018 than it is that he's an abusive piece of trash.

This dude was friends with Dahvie so its pretty believable to me

"Hey Siren, what's up? I honestly hope you're doing well. You haven't been on Sput for very long, judging by your profile. I'd just like to remind you that one thing a lot of the Sputnik community likes to do is show respect to women, as well as other users of the site. I understand that it may not be your thing, but in order to blend into the community like a lot of new users might have to do, try showing respect."

ive lurked here for a couple years before making an account, the last thing I've seen on here is user to user respect, esp when they say dumb shit, not dumb shit or unironically like deathcore

Unpopular to ask, but why does it seem like all the stories come out at once? Wouldnt you think stories like these would accumulate over the years? Its bizarre.

''ive lurked here for a couple years before making an account, the last thing I've seen on here is user to user respect,''

Lmao

And this won't make me any friends either, but, the woman who got the 'W' and 'whore' tattooed just because this guy told her to, and she now regrets it, that's a load of bullshit. I mean gimme a fucking break. How is that assault? She decided to do it and now regrets it. She's angry that others have the tattoos, and she isn't special, I guess? That's pretty retarded. Apparently she's a ''Victim''. What an insult to women who have been raped and actually abused.

Let's keep reading though...

because "woman regret after sex" = "rape" to people in 2018

and here we observe the incel in it's natural habitat, the internet

because going outside, actually talking to women and gaining some actual life experiences is way harder than being a no-life no friends self-loathing weirdo who buries their head in the sand when faced with the idea that sexual assault through emotional abuse actually exists is comfy and safe

Sint with the factssss

just passing through

"because going outside, actually talking to women and gaining some actual life experiences is way harder than being a no-life no friends self-loathing weirdo who buries their head in the sand when faced with the idea that sexual assault through emotional abuse actually exists is comfy and safe"

Drop that fucking mic.

God it’s so true though...I just read about Ameer Vann from Brockhampton being accused of “abuse” and its two women saying “Oh I thought it was cool at the time and I was fine with it and told other people hat I was fine with it but then I realized it hurt and I didn’t like BDSM so I left the relationship and now 3 years later dragging your ‘abuser’ across the Internet is the hot shit to do so let’s crush this dude.” Really? Regardless of what he did or how huge of an asshole he is, if you were willing and consenting the whole time until you had some revelation and THEN YOU LEFT and THAT’S END-OF-STORY?? You’re an idiot and you don’t deserve the pity-spotlight you’re trying SO hard for.

Let me add that Wil Francis is a sadistic piece of trash and the emotional torture aspect with this situation is so god-awful and makes it obvious he’s an actually an abusive scumrag. I just need to point out how absolutely ridiculous the standards for “abuse allegations” are anymore like, apparently this is why Vann’s not in Brockhampton anymore.

put him out to pasture

if your first thought upon seeing allegations is anger and a need to defend the accuser or attempt to delegitimise the whole #MeToo movement instantly without even understanding, researching, finding out for yourself or even caring about the truth of the matter -

(whatever that may be, innocent or guilty)

you are part of the problem

Lol

Snide out here *allegedly* having kinky knife sex with people and some of you can’t even get a text back

"who gives a fuck what site it's on. are you actually retarded"

i was just giggling that this shit happens on tumblr of all places relax you fucking tampon

the irony of the tolerant internet warriors casually throwing around "retard"

i think that was in response to 'give me a fucking break, tumblr isn't news.' rather than your comment

oh ye true i thought "actually retarded" was in reference to my name

If there's physical proof shown on tumblr, I have no problem with tumblr being used as a source despite the overall cringe nature of the site. However the footage posted there was already determined and proved as consensual hardcore bdsm by the police. Will is not a creep, he's just a kinky guy who did hardcore things in bed with women who agreed to it over the age of 18. This is literally business from a year ago that was drug up by an angry teenage fan mad that Will wouldn't sleep with her because he's married now.

"the dude was friends with Dahvie so it's pretty believable to me"

Born of Osiris were friends with Dahvie as well, what does that have to do with anything besides showing poor judgement in character?

fuck him and his music, sounds like a creep

inb4 the roast of snide

Also, shit like this on that tumblr blog pisses me off "mentally ill people cannot consent to bdsm", fucking what? I can consent to whatever the fuck I want to. The police already said no charges should be filed against Wil, and looking at the evidence here it's not hard to see why. This is all complete bullshit, and they're trying to ruin the career of an innocent man.

Boy if it actually turns out any of this is true then you are going to look like a fucking moron snide.

He's not even big anymore, so I highly doubt someone would randomly out of the blue make up allegations for attention...

I'll just check if this dude looks like a creep on any of his William Control album covers.

Oh.

Doesn't his solo debut have a really funny spoken word section?

Considering this shit was proven consensual over a YEAR ago with some of the women he's done shit like this with coming forward to defend him along with the police saying he's in the clear and no charges should be filed, I very highly doubt this is ever going to be anything other than "insert angry tumblr girl accusing someone #984" here. Melanie Martinez is still dealing with the fallout of being falsely accused (even when it was proven that the women was only accusing her to jumpstart her own music career), and Ronnie Radke successfully won his lawsuit against the woman who falsely accused him. Seriously, people like this who falsely accuse other people of sexual assault, rape, abuse, etc make it infinitely harder for the real victims to come forward. I have a friend who was raped anally, and the reason he wouldn't come forward (despite me and several other friends of his telling him we'd back him up) about what happened to him was because the person who did it ran a conglomerate of camp sites for the scouts and he was scared he'd be viewed as a fake.

'Allow me to be frank at commencement
You are not going to like me
The gentlemen will be envious and the ladies will be repelled'

Honest from the start

frank or will which is it mate

snide you seem really defensive about this, not a good look

Snide sounds like he wishes he was one of these girls lol

Defensive? I've been assaulted myself, and no-one believed me because of people like this. Fuck false accusers.

My closest friends comforted me, but they couldn't provide help because they weren't there, they didn't see it. I didn't get justice, fuck. false. accusers.

"My closest friends comforted me, but they couldn't provide help because they weren't there, they didn't see it"

how can you be so certain anyone else is being honest or otherwise if you too were not there

not being logically sound here mate js

@chuck: If you're referring to my statements on Wil being innocent, it's because Wil turned in the full collection of videos to the police (including footage of the women involved consenting to the hardcore sex) which is why the detective recommended no charges and cleared him. What happened to me was not recorded on video, and I was stupid and didn't come forward until later when it was impossible to prove.

shit could have happened that was not taped etc

It casts reasonable doubt in their stories, and helps to prove that what they say is false. Along with many other factors (like a large portion of the women involved in this getting his initials and lyrics tattooed above their vagina)

Look I have no respect for this guy but ffs these stories are from fangirls of legal age who wanted so badly to be with him and didn't say stop at any point. They had knowledge he was into what he was into so How is there any actual crime committed. Sounds like a stitch up to me.

Illegal or not, don't you think it's poor character to abuse a position of celebrity like that? Manipulation isn't cool and gives you a nice roundabout way to make a blanket statement saying all the girls asked to get fucking annihilated.

A person of legal age can choose what they want to do with their bodies, if they want to fuck a celebrity for whatever reason (they think he/she is attractive, powerful, they want an in into the industry, they have a genuine connection with them, etc) that's their choice. As long as it's consensual, no-one is in the wrong. Regretting a consensual act after it's over is not rape, it's regret. If they said no during the act, and the person does not stop, it's rape. This is not the case here according to the video footage turned into the police.

CARVED NAME INTO MY SKIN. IN CANDLELIGHT. SEW IT UP WITH HAAATE.

I know it's not illegal. I don't think there is anything on him to put him in jail or anything. But I'm glad this got out there so people can see what they are really getting into. This guy is a bad dude and his behavior- especially considering his messages to these girls- (reciprocated or not) and his desires go beyond fetishism.

This guy sounds like the 50 shades of grey of the real world.

@dbizzles: Everyone who followed William Control knew he was heavy into the bdsm community, in fact one of his music videos was literally just him watching a woman chain up, whip, and beat up another woman in a sex dungeon.

I have watched gruesome videos from metal bands and wouldn't expect to get cut into pieces meeting them.

Did you see these girls faces? Like, sure, spank the fuck out of someone if they want but could you break a girls face just because she said it was okay?

@dbizzles: Go research hardcore bdsm dude, people have done much worse to each other, on video for porn sites.

I'd rather not.

Well, then don't claim that a kink is abuse if you're not even willing to research it.

"Go research hardcore bdsm dude, people have done much worse to each other, on video for porn sites."

Rape occurs in the porn industry too, dude. Across the board, kinks, fetishes, -play, plain old vanilla as shit porn, but even in the BDSM community. Just saying, it definitely happens.

https://twitter.com/katiepies_/status/1004131918324084738

i mean there's this, old messages and such but worth considering

This is actually great publicity for William Control. He will probably get more willing bodies, though judging by some of his messages it seems his fantasies lean more toward manipulation, domination, and hebephilia.

'https://twitter.com/katiepies_/status/1004131918324084738'

Wow, what a surprise. Grooming a 14 year old girl (AKA probably the majority of Aiden fans, including Snide) for BDSM. It's okay if it's a fetish, right?

it's ok if there's consent

'Just say yes.'

-Wil to a 14 year old girl.

i never said this case involved consent

Snide also still listened to BOTDF after Dahvie abused one of his friends.

So I don't take him seriously when he defends dudes like this.

As I've said many times, separate the artist from the art. Dahvie deserves to be fried, but I dont mind listening to music if i enjoy it.

Negrito Malachito.

HYPERBRUH CHU SAY?

"Snide also still listened to BOTDF after Dahvie abused one of his friends.

So I don't take him seriously when he defends dudes like this."

^dumb opinion

kenbo has a brand new album 5d dont take him seriously

tbh

See to me Snide you're directing your righteous anger at being assaulted and not being believed at the wrong people.

You blame false accusers for delegitimising belief in assault victims when you should be blaming the way the skewed gender dynamics in your country treat female on male or male on male violence verses the way they treat male on female violence thanks to the subjugation of women and the aggressive way that patriarchal ideals hurt male victims of assault and violence -

Pushing messages like 'just man up' or 'why didn't you just push her off' or even 'stand up for yourself/ men fight so if you lose a *fight* or get *beat up* by a man you just aren't as valid a man as them'

but idk that's just me being a lefty twat

''https://twitter.com/katiepies_/status/1004131918324084738'

Wow, what a surprise. Grooming a 14 year old girl (AKA probably the majority of Aiden fans, including Snide) for BDSM. It's okay if it's a fetish, right?'

wait one of those people is my ex - lol

"and here we observe the incel in it's natural habitat, the internet

because going outside, actually talking to women and gaining some actual life experiences is way harder than being a no-life no friends self-loathing weirdo who buries their head in the sand when faced with the idea that sexual assault through emotional abuse actually exists is comfy and safe"


sorry but having sex and regretting it a couple days later isn't rape. the notion that everyone who doesn't unconditionally believe every "rape" story is an incel is childish and very lol. go back to reddit.

"You blame false accusers for delegitimising belief in assault victims when you should be blaming the way the skewed gender dynamics in your country treat female on male or male on male violence verses the way they treat male on female violence thanks to the subjugation of women and the aggressive way that patriarchal ideals hurt male victims of assault and violence -"

Grow up. The myth that the west is a patriarchy needs to stay in 2014.

"but idk that's just me being a lefty twat "

Yeah, it is. You people give leftists a bad name. Tankies are cringe as shit.

I love this idea that people who believe in the patriarchy need to grow up because the idea hurts ppls feelings.

Tell that to... the prevailing academic opinion. Idk about you but when there's a massive shitton of academic backing to something I will only be swayed on the opposite opinion by tangible study-based/ fact-based / stats-based evidence not some guy in a thread who got upset someone used the word lol

Also wtf is a Tanky? Is it some alt-right buzzword i can't keep up

the prevailing academic opinion is that equal opportunity for the sexes was achieved decades ago

if you are hearing otherwise it isnt coming from an academic source

I'll never get the image of some broad cutting up Snide out of my goddamn head

mate.

Anyone who believes in the patriarchy has never seen the dynamic between a wife and her husband shopping at the grocery store.

https://www.shrm.org/hr-today/public-policy/hr-public-policy-issues/Documents/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf

mate

sorry for bringing real research into the debate i know we like to have pseudointellectual discussions here

the remaining difference in wage gap between the sexes is due to differences in occupation and hours worked, not an issue of opportunity. end of story.

"I love this idea that people who believe in the patriarchy need to grow up because the idea hurts ppls feelings."

Because it's false and does nothing but demonize men. Claiming that "patriarchy hurts men" and then turning around and demonizing them is hypocrisy that would make mitch mcconnel himself blush.

"Tell that to... the prevailing academic opinion"

lol

"Idk about you but when there's a massive shitton of academic backing to something I will only be swayed on the opposite opinion by tangible study-based/ fact-based / stats-based evidence not some guy in a thread who got upset someone used the word lol"

The same academia that calls words like "woman" and "mankind" oppressive, while conveniently ignoring that we use those words because english in its infancy used 'man' as a gender neutral suffix (wiffman, werman). Or proposes the use of latinx as a gender neutral term for latinos even though they can't even pronounce that word using actual phonology?

Yes let's pretend that "academic opinion" is solid backing to say that the west is a patriarchy. If you want a patriarchy head over to Sudan where the oppression of women is literally baked into the fuckin constitution of the country.

"Also wtf is a Tanky? Is it some alt-right buzzword i can't keep up"

Leftists that ignore leftist crimes in history, something that you reek of since you seem to enjoy parroting the talking points of r/latestagecapitalism. Leftist equivalent to "hitler did nothin wrong hurr".

"Anyone who believes in the patriarchy has never seen the dynamic between a wife and her husband shopping at the grocery store."

that's not a valid talking point. marriage is bad for both men and women, just in radically different ways.

"https://www.shrm.org/hr-today/public-policy/hr-public-policy-issues/Documents/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf

mate

sorry for bringing real research into the debate i know we like to have pseudointellectual discussions here

the remaining difference in wage gap between the sexes is due to differences in occupation and hours worked, not an issue of opportunity. end of story."

/thread

Alternatively you could just like you know talk to a woman, pretty much any woman about their experiences in this country

yeah women just don't want better jobs amiright

to play devils advocate one of the last remaining arguments for an oppressive patriarchy in academic circles is the idea that the hours worked variable influencing the discrepancy in wages between men vs women due to women tending to stay home to look after children is sexist, however if you go as far back as hunter gatherer days, which make up the bulk of the history time-wise of the modern homo sapiens species, the women did stay home to look after children and gather food locally while the larger more physically apt men went out to hunt, so i would argue it is very much an innate thing

"Alternatively you could just like you know talk to a woman, pretty much any woman about their experiences in this country"

implying I haven't? I'm a functioning human being, no matter how unlikely that should hold true for most of sput's user base.

Women's grievances get heard, men's get ignored

"the women did stay home to look after children and gather food locally while the larger more physically apt men went out to hunt, so i would argue it is very much an innate thing"

We're not cavemen anymore man, it's time for traditionalists to stop acting like forcing both men and women into shitty roles is good for society.

Since when was quantitative wage disparity a continuous and transferable indicator of multi-faceted gender equality - that's like saying climate change isn't happening because one location showed a trend towards warmer.

Not exactly academically rigorous...

We're not cavemen anymore man, it's time for traditionalists to stop acting like forcing both men and women into shitty roles is good for society. [2]

The best way for the wage disparity to disappear is not forcing men to work extra hard to provide when they don't want to, tbh tbh tbh

"Alternatively you could just like you know talk to a woman, pretty much any woman about their experiences in this country"

sit down young trebby we need to have a discussion about how objective research is done

"yeah women just don't want better jobs amiright"

its not "better" jobs, its different jobs, a major skewer of the data for example is men working labour jobs in the engineering sector, high paying high risk work

another major influence like i mentioned previously is the tendency for women to stay home to bear children

the idea that the patriarchy dominates all the high quality jobs is instantly negated by looking at physicians, an occupation highly dominated by females

"Since when was quantitative wage disparity a continuous and transferable indicator of multi-faceted gender equality"

what is your alternative

if we arent talking about differences in wages, what exactly are we talking about in terms of inequality

"yeah women just don't want better jobs amiright"

Despite the push to get more women into STEM the effect has been all but superfluous. feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I saw way more women going for social degrees than going to the tech school or going into stem.

that is completely ignoring the validity of pedestaling one reportundertaken by a bloody interested party. It's not even an **academic study** it's a governmental report! How can you seriously be using it to bolster an opinion about the 'academic opinion' when it never even touched academia lol - c'mon dude really?

male cooks also earn more because they are expected to work much more, despite cuisine being a field women tend to dominate

" We're not cavemen anymore man, it's time for traditionalists to stop acting like forcing both men and women into shitty roles is good for society. "

stop acting like roles are forced upon people and arent potentially innate even though circumstance has changed

hurr durr government WRONG

"It's not even an **academic study** it's a governmental report! "

its a research study with about 50 pages of citations you fucking mongoloid

and it wasnt even done BY the government, it was done FOR the government

fucking idiots everywhere man

"
The best way for the wage disparity to disappear is not forcing men to work extra hard to provide when they don't want to, tbh tbh tbh"

just because I want to stop the societal pressure doesn't mean some things are due to biology. men being more apt to work with their hands is biologically based.

Actually, in terms of actual proof not *what you saw* lol - as someone in STEM academia - women over-represent men in early career research while men dominate women in late-career. 'Leaky-pipe' syndrome.

"sit down young trebby we need to have a discussion about how objective research is done"

my point is that some things are obvious enough even without research. And if someone is willfully ignorant enough you can't save them with all the data in the world

chuck do you know what academia is? A lietrature review in a report doesn't make something representative of academia and the way that academia creates and disseminates knowledge.... That's like 101 dude

"my point is that some things are obvious enough even without research. And if someone is willfully ignorant enough you can't save them with all the data in the world"

the irony here being thinking that speaking to any one individual as being practically representative of anything useful among the population is the definition of ignorant

"stop acting like roles are forced upon people and arent potentially innate even though circumstance has changed"

Roles aren't forced onto anyone through nature, but interests and ability in different circumstances can sometimes be reflected through biology.

roles are forced on to people through coercion and childhood brainwashing by tradcons. I live in kentucky, this shit is about as common as grass and oxygen in this backwater state.

"chuck do you know what academia is? A lietrature review in a report doesn't make something representative of academia and the way that academia creates and disseminates knowledge.... That's like 101 dude "

THERE ARE LIKE 50 PAGES OF ACADEMIC PAPERS CITED

dude what the fuck are you talking about

do i know what academia is well lets see i have a masters degree in science numerous papers published have presented personal research at national conferences hmmmmmmmmm

"dude what the fuck are you talking about"

didnt take long to go over your head mate like i said youre gonna have to sit down while we start from scratch

"Actually, in terms of actual proof not *what you saw* lol - as someone in STEM academia - women over-represent men in early career research while men dominate women in late-career. 'Leaky-pipe' syndrome."

and somehow this conveniently isn't a result of men's further drive to bust their ass for something career related moreso than women on average? Sorry man I'm not buying it.

It's a literature review by the US department of labor - but it's not an academic focused publication. So therefore it hasn't gone through the publication editorial process. So therefore whatever conclusion it makes isn't representative of academia - just a subsection of 50 off studies that were taken from academia.

You can take conclusions from it cool - and probably decently strong ones - but not as representative of academic opinion

Congrats on the Masters Degree man I'm impressed

dude, if a research study cites a paper, and you can go read the paper, you are in essence citing the research directly

like are you fucking daft

What’s Aiden?

congrats on being another ignorant sheep im disgusted but not surprised you are one of many

"Also, shit like this on that tumblr blog pisses me off "mentally ill people cannot consent to bdsm", fucking what? I can consent to whatever the fuck I want to. The police already said no charges should be filed against Wil, and looking at the evidence here it's not hard to see why. This is all complete bullshit, and they're trying to ruin the career of an innocent man."

What career?

What's Aiden?[2]

What career?[2]

as most sputnik threads do

Singularly yeah - but you are looking at a prepared literature review by a non-academic institution. So it's not academically rigorous. It's pretty simple. There are no checks and balances. I'm sure it's not the case - but to play devils advocate that report could contain all 50 studies in the world from every journal that go against prevailing opinion. Nothing is effectively checking and filtering that within an academic structure.

Think studies that go against prevailing opinion in Climate Change - there are reviews that singularly show evidence against the prevailing opinion because they have an agenda. Academic studies in the singular yeah, but when pulled together to further a cause in a non academic report they no longer represent prevailing academic opinion - simply contain academic studies

if in the face of new information one is not willing to IMMEDIATELY reconsider their opinion i have zero respect for them

unfortunately that encompasses what 90+% of the population

i want to di

js instead of trying to be a big smart man and discredit a research study with 100 ACADEMIC citations with literally NOTHING to rebut why dont you shut the fuck up and go actually read it

im out, lost cause, go pretend youre some moral highground savior with the disgusting low iq feminists at your local uni

I did read it nice strawman lol - i didn't discredit the study either - i said that it didn't fit within an academic framework not that it wasn't true lol

lol did you edit your comment

'disgusting low iq feminists at your local uni '

haha the mask is slipping dude

never cried about the report man - just explained the context and you got butthurt

this is almost funny

cmon it is pretty funny

Wtf are you doing to this thread? It's time to stop.

you need to redefine your definition of comedy then iglu

I find it more sad tbh, also I'm listening to John Mulaney which I find funnier.

John Mulaney good

Y'all should better go and check out the new Manchester Orchestra single instead of arguing about some creepy ass talentless motherfucker who clearly looks and acts like a creep, a rapist and an abuser. Oh, and he also makes terrible, uninspired, tepid and overall terrible hot topic music for teenagers.

don't do hot topic music like that

"don't let me down, Soupy"

Soupy Accused Of Being Too Cool To Make Pop Punk

Faraudo, god bless you.

Bless ya biz, i'm glad we could end this thread on a high note.

Me too. Now everyone else just shut up and we will be good. Cheers! have a great weekend!

the proverbial selfishness and myopia of the boomer race, through a great deal of economic ripples has vicariously led to my current employment doing technical support for a patended "boomertech"™ product, explaining to doddery septuagenarians how to use the app store on their phone, and these blockheads won't even let me rant to them about how we need to take america back from the jewish supremacists

lol

This is not the Varg thread, for fuck sake.

How does trebor, without fail, manage to claim the top spot on Mt. Stupid every. fucking. time.

It's almost effortless.

I thought this thread was over.

Go check Arcane Roots' new single.

eh trebors a good ass dude

"Go check Arcane Roots' new single."

Fuck, didn't even knew they released a single! I officially revive this thread.

you don't have jurisdiction over this thread this is america

Wait till Faraudo comes back and realizes I lied to him about that new single.

lol

U played me man. You lured me into a trap and I stepped right into it.

What the fuck happened here

What the fuck happened in here while I was at work

Sputnik happened.

Isn’t his bands music abuse enough?

Sorry if anyone has already made this joke I can’t be bothered to read this whole thread.

Don't bother, it's a whole bunch of nothin'. Band sucks, the guy as a solo artist sucks, guy is a fucking asshole, a rapist and an overall terrible person. That's the best way to summarize this whole ordeal.

And B1rd played me, that's pretty much it.

Is the new Arcane Roots single Landslide - the one they played live last tour?

Aiden were pretty hardcore back in the day. Rivaling At-the-Drive-In at times with the intensity!

He’s new in town.

Hi. I created this account for the sole purpose of staying anonymous. I have not come forward yet but, I am one of those girls. I was 15 when I met Will, I had never experienced a healthy sexual relationship before and the extent of my bdsm knowledge was a.) you get tied up and b.) it’s the edgy thing to do, and I was trying to be edgy because I was an emo kid and it was 2006. My relationship with will started normal, or as “normal” as a relationship between a 15 year old and a 24 year old could be. Then it got really weird and turned into “if you tell anyone we’re both going to be in trouble because you’re parents will kill you if they find out you’ve been fucking a guy in a band” and out of fear, desperation and stupidly believing that I was special and he loves me because he picked me and bought me gifts, I did everything he asked.

No 15 year old can consent to the way I was treated.

This isn’t about bdsm. This is about a fucking creep who fucks 15 year old girls because they don’t know that he’s manipulating them and they don’t know that they can say no and they don’t know they have bodily autonomy.

I will not be replying to comments, I just got upset when I read other comments and wanted the fucking sexists and incels to think before you speak and consider there are real people involved. This isn’t a fucking joke.

not what i expected to see opneing this thread but fuck yea john mulaney rules

lol

fuck

shit thread

The fuck.

what's new pussy cat?

"Hi. I created this accoun.."


LEGITIMATE GENUINE POST

you are an embarrassment to this site you incel faggot

lol

another example of the flagrant oppression of the downtrodden incel race

r/inceltears for the best of reddit

Did this guy actually beat chicks up or was it just part of some agreed upon S & M shit

My safe word is blueberry pancakes

to me it looks like it was a mostly voluntary at first then taken too far type thing

When the fuck did the term incel get so popular? I thought we called them neckbeards

incel =/= neckbeard

lets be real, they're basically the same thing

incels = depressed losers with no sense of responsibility for self

neckbeards = sputnikmusic.com users

Let's be real, they're basically the same thing [2]

Incels are pathetic though, take a god damn shower and maybe women wont be repulsed by your haggard ass

Whats an incel? Is that a term for some pussy that can't pull trim?

They're a "movement" of involuntary celibates, a lot of which believe the government should force women to fuck them

involuntary celibate

group of dudes on the internet that legit blame everyone but themselves for their lack of attractiveness, especially women in general and "chads" i.e. men they are jealous of

theres sites online of a bunch of them on there together stroking each others hate boners, wont post link for obvious reasons but not hard to find if you craving some cringe

"a lot of which believe the government should force women to fuck them"

lmfao i didnt even know that

I feel like if half of reddit even touched a boob or a butt with consent they'd enter cardiac arrest

@guitarded: yeah it's one of the most sad, disgusting things I've ever seen. They believe women should carry sex cards

So in other words, they're a bunch of pussies who can't get laid. Got it.

Most of them dont shower, dont know the meaning of the phrase "social graces", and think that every women should just jump into bed with them after a short online conversation. They're entitled, spoiled little pussies who probably wont ever get their dick near a willing woman

Seriously what is wrong with this country lol. There's acutally a "movement" for weak beta males that are too afraid to penetrate a vagina? They need to create a movement because they can't even score a fat chick? LMAO.

actually they're freedom fighters, the new proletariat seeking to seize the means of coochie you fucking gynocratic phallophobic bigots

I always thought incel just meant someone who was bad with women, but thanks to sputnik i discovered theres much more to it.

That's the thing, they shoot for 9-10/10 women they have nothing in common with instead of someone who you would vibe with around your physical attractiveness level because they base all their knowledge of women around shit porn

the avg sputniker

coochie commies lmao

reddit will never cease to amaze me, for better or worse

That's pretty funny. Its amazing how people don't comprehend basic human nature anymore. Ugly dudes who don't shower don't get to bang hot chicks unless they are millionaires or have a 10 inch cock. It just doesn't work that way.

Punch at your own level boys.

Yak you're a national treasure

Punch at your own level boys. [2]

and if youre level 0 then get off the fucking computer stop whining and go lift, this humble sput user went from a pimple faced fat teen to slinging mad dick after he got in shape

shit is just a reflection of the pussyfication of the west tbh

and if youre level 0 then get off the fucking computer stop whining and go lift, this humble sput user went from a pimple faced fat teen to slinging mad dick after he got in shape

^ Damn right Chuck.

I need to start working out again I miss having toned abs tbh

lifting for women is gay though, you lift to become an ubermensch alpha god and then you capture the coochie

Side Effects: Hella Cooch

obviously i still stay loyal to my fat girlfriend though

woke bae 😍

'they base all their knowledge of women around shit porn'

kinky fuckers

hey sinternet what's ur 1 rep max on the bench press

LEGITIMATE GENUINE POST[2]

incels are pathetic because they put so much value on shoving a sexual organ inside another sexual organ like it's equivalent to finding the holy grail or some shit. who the fuck cares there's better things to do with your time than fuck.

^And here we see a pre-incel: an obvious virgin whose respect for women has not yet turned into an envious hate.

"And here we see a pre-incel: an obvious virgin whose respect for women has not yet turned into an envious hate."

respecc waaaaaaaamen

who the fuck cares there's better things to do with your time than fuck.

^ whoever said that can turn in their man card.

lol

being a MAN is based on how much you CUM

if you don't CUM you're not a MAN

nutting on your dakimakura doesnt count

being a MAN is based on how much you CUM

if you don't CUM you're not a MAN


^ Not really. More like if you can't satisfy a woman sexually, then you're not a man. Period.

But how can I satisfy a woman if Deborah Ann Woll (AKA peak woman) won't sleep with me? IT ISN'T FAIR.

What the fuck is a dakimakura

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dakimakura

that's exactly why i eat the pussy immediately, even if she's menstruating dude it's just like clamato dude i'm in it, i'm slurpin and burpin, i don't even check for smell or diseases or whatever dude if she's not have a seizure from my serpentine slurper i'm not even a real man dude for real

" i'm slurpin and burpin"

can i get this on a poster?

Nah google is gay, tell me or fuck off.

it's those big ass pillows that 500 pound weebs put covers on that have anime characters on them.

top tier cringe

Oh so thats what theyre called, i love my dakimakura.

fragile masculinity

unrelated comment

masculinity hurting juice

I WANNA SEE 6 HOT LOADS ON YOUR DI'S HAT gachiBASS Clap

did sinternet have a stroke

Lol who actually eats puzzy, if you cant get her off with your cock you pronably just have a small di k.

Oh shit I'm sorry

Sorry for what? Our daddy tought us not to be ashamed of our dicks, ‘specially when they are such good size ‘n all.

Yeah I can see that, your daddy gave you good advice.

It gets bigger when I pull on it.

Mmhm.

Sometimes, I pull on it so hard, I rip the skin.

Well, my daddy taught me a few things too, like how to not rip the skin by using someone else’s mouth, instead of your own hand.

Will you show me?

I’ll be right happy to.

Lol who actually eats puzzy, if you cant get her off with your cock you pronably just have a small di k.

^ Its a combo platter bro. Deliver multiples to her.

i'm slurpin and burpin,

^ Gotta admit, if that was on a tshirt Id buy it hard.

Mmm, now im getting hungry.

Dine at the Y

No daddy, yamate

This is the kinkiest thread I've seen on sputnik

You obviously didnt see the thread for my review of Soggy Butt Queef if you think this is the kinkiest thread

this thread makes me glad that i never deleted

god why the fuck am i just now finding this thread

nice dig snake

https://twitter.com/TinyScaryClaire/status/1032402138473869313

So yeah, his wife confirms this did happen...

The dilton comments in here are off the richter

Damn.

To bad snide has left the site otherwise he'd be in here to explain how his wife is wrong.

We should have lynched this clown a decade ago