Khôrada is salty (ex-Agalloch)

2018-05-15 by Alastor | 105 Comments
Khôrada, the second band to form after the end of Agalloch, has revealed the first track ("Ossify") of their upcoming debut album Salt, to be released on July 20th.

The band consists of ex-Agalloch members Don Anderson (guitar), Jason Walton (bass), Aesop Dekker (drums) and ex-Giant Squid member Aaron John Gregory (vocals).



Tagged: Khorada

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Alastor
May 15th 2018
1969 Comments


sorry for the title, nothing else would fit the character limit.

Darius the Great
May 15th 2018
18148 Comments


Incoming Pillorian comparisons...
Who am I kidding I'm gonna be comparing this to Pillorian every step of the way

DungeonBoy
May 15th 2018
4767 Comments


Probably shouldn't surprise anyone, but there are obvious traces of Agalloch on this. Instrumentally there are some pretty solid ideas here, but the overall vibe of this really doesn't do it for me. I don't enjoy the vocals on this song personally. I will check out the entire thing when it comes out, but since Darius is allowing for Pillorian comparisons, Pillorian >

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0xME
May 15th 2018
239 Comments


I'm definitely not feeling this, but maybe the rest of the album will be better? not holding my breath though

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Alastor
May 15th 2018
1969 Comments


I actually dig this. Definitely a way more colour- and playful approach than Pillorian imo.

SCREAM!
May 15th 2018
15754 Comments


"Incoming Pillorian comparisons...
Who am I kidding I'm gonna be comparing this to Pillorian every step of the way"

Why though, they sound nothing alike

Not big on the vocals/verses but I dig the drawn out instrumental parts

SCREAM!
May 15th 2018
15754 Comments


Although some of the instrumentals remind me of Serpent era Agalloch (which makes sense since it was their last album) which I know I'm in the minority here that loves that album

BREAKDOWNS
May 15th 2018
418 Comments


this is 30 times better yhan any agalloch

Darius the Great
May 15th 2018
18148 Comments


@scream I actually haven't jammed yet Im going purely off the basis of the members of each and how similar they may/may not sound to their former band

DarkNoctus
May 15th 2018
10501 Comments


i see the comparison to serpent-era agalloch but i think this is a lot better

i'm really excited for this

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Sevengill
May 15th 2018
8660 Comments


who cares about Pillorian when this is fronted by Aaron Gregory
song's a behemoth so/but I'll need a bunch of spins to let it sink in

guitarded_chuck
May 15th 2018
16034 Comments


is it gud give it to me str8 (forgot headphones)

AdolfChrist
May 15th 2018
17502 Comments


Will be better than Pillorian, thats for sure.

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DarkNoctus
May 15th 2018
10501 Comments


it's great, i love the emotive riffs, the textures and the way the song progresses

it's quite reserved but it still works

dbizzles
May 15th 2018
12292 Comments


I thought this was pretty shit. Did not like the vocals at all and everything sounded fuzzy and weak. The last few minutes were a decent jam, but sitting through 8 minutes to get there was not a good time.

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Panzerchrist
May 15th 2018
384 Comments


Why are the vocals mixed so shittily

Evreaia
May 15th 2018
5018 Comments


not liking this , disappointed.

Pillorian wasn't that good either, but at least it was enjoyable.

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br4dl3yb34r
May 15th 2018
215 Comments


I like it. I like it a lot.

SCREAM!
May 15th 2018
15754 Comments


I'm glad the "plastic coccon" part is really short because that little section just seems to make me cringe every time.

Having listened to this a handful of time now I have to say I generally like the musicianship/songwritting but I wish they went with a different vocalist...

DungeonBoy
May 15th 2018
4767 Comments


[2]

jesterhead92
May 15th 2018
5352 Comments


This rules wtf guys

Sevengill
May 15th 2018
8660 Comments


AJ is an acquired taste on vocals, I'll give you that.

DarkNoctus
May 15th 2018
10501 Comments


yeah this is excellent and you guys need a boop on the nose

tigersbrokefree
May 15th 2018
211 Comments


The death of Agalloch is reason enough to be salty.

Meh, don't know about the vocals and the mixing.

Scoot
May 15th 2018
19105 Comments


agalloch were dead anyways

AdolfChrist
May 15th 2018
17502 Comments


What we really lost was John's ability to write interesting music.

zaruyache
May 15th 2018
19740 Comments


interesting song and excited for more. The new style is really interesting tho I def didn't like the vocals much on the first listen.

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InFlamesWeThrash666
May 15th 2018
8423 Comments


I dig this

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teamster
May 15th 2018
3182 Comments


I think Pillorian is fantastic - seriously.

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danielito19
May 15th 2018
12058 Comments


came to the thread to bitch about the title but you apologized in the first comment


Ocean of Noise
May 15th 2018
10335 Comments


Pillorian seriously own. This, not so much. But then again I might just not like this as much because it's not as Agalloch-esque.

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kmagnum1x
May 15th 2018
333 Comments


pillorian released a banger but I think this is good in its own right too

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Astral Abortis
May 15th 2018
6736 Comments


This is good. Better than Pillorian and Pillorian were better than Agalloch

Institutionalized
May 16th 2018
28 Comments


I actually like the vocals. Kind of looking forward to the album even though it's nothing like Agalloch

Hawks
May 16th 2018
61053 Comments


Pillorian rules you people are stupid.

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Mrlexiphanic
May 16th 2018
28 Comments


You know, I hated this for like 4 minutes, but I think i'm into it now

Astral Abortis
May 16th 2018
6736 Comments


Yeah dont know why everyone hated Pillorian like they were clearly pretty good

LordHugoThePoet
May 16th 2018
36 Comments


Not a fan of the vocals but musically it's decent. More interested in the upcoming Sculptured album tbh.

Demon of the Fall
May 16th 2018
8109 Comments


'Yeah dont know why everyone hated Pillorian like they were clearly pretty good' (2)

Because people (incorrectly) expected Agalloch mk II perhaps?

I'll definitely be checking this out.


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SacredSerenity
May 16th 2018
684 Comments


Not sure yet how much I like this track. It has a certain quality to it but some parts seem a bit lackluster

Dinosaur
May 16th 2018
1272 Comments


This was great tbh. Looking forward to the release.

Sevengill
May 16th 2018
8660 Comments


"plastic cocoons" section sounds straight out of Gazpacho's Demon

WatchItExplode
May 16th 2018
5941 Comments


interest piqued at mention of Aaron John Gregory

WatchItExplode
May 16th 2018
5941 Comments


That was stellar, looking forward to this.

SCREAM!
May 16th 2018
15754 Comments


""plastic cocoons" section sounds straight out of Gazpacho's Demon"

That part just seems like a cliché, cheesy modern prog trick. I dunno, really dislike that section. Luckily the rest of the song is growing on me though. Still not sold on the vocals although they bother me less than on initial listens and the mixing is kind of awkward at times but there is some great musicianship and ideas on display here

emmny
May 16th 2018
29 Comments


ass except for the last quarter

pillorian smokes this

Darius the Great
May 17th 2018
18148 Comments


Track is pretty damn good. Interesting pacing and guitarwork throughout. Doesn't sound like Agalloch at all. Much much more interesting than Pillorian. Definitely piqued my interest for the album

Darius the Great
May 17th 2018
18148 Comments


Aesop Dekker also kills it on this

AdolfChrist
May 17th 2018
17502 Comments


idk, he still seems pretty basic bitch to me. overall this rules though.

Gmork89
May 17th 2018
7703 Comments


Hell I actually like the vibe of this quite a bit. It's weird but...charming in a way? Definitely a unique atmosphere.

Vocals are kind of annoying though.

Meridiu5
May 17th 2018
773 Comments


pillorian smokes this [2]

This ain't bad but yes so hard. Looks like Jon won out

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wayfaringstranger
May 17th 2018
218 Comments


Whoever was speaking on the vocals being an acquired taste, I can see that. The instrumentals are enjoyable, however.

Darius the Great
May 17th 2018
18148 Comments


Vocals are good.
If the rest of the album is this quality this will be leagues and bounds above Pillorian

AdolfChrist
May 17th 2018
17502 Comments


I have mixed feelings on the vocals, might just be shitty mixing. I still like it a lot regardless.

Darius the Great
May 17th 2018
18148 Comments


Vocals aren't typical by any standards but they fit the music to me.
I feel like they could be mixed in a bit better though yeah

SpiritCrusher2
May 17th 2018
6068 Comments


well, this is weird. some riffs sound almost "cute" lol, guitar tone amplifies that feeling too. also some parts reminded me of dinosaur jr. or something similar haha. it's really interesting, but it also lacks something. seems really disjointed too.

RikRoach7
May 17th 2018
3480 Comments


Frustratingly rough around the edges compositorically (meaning that there are a LOT of parts where one thing is thrown in after another and they don't fit together at all). Some nice bits here and there though for sure and it gets better as it proceeds. Last 3 minutes are fun.

Cool cover art tho.

DungeonBoy
May 17th 2018
4767 Comments


The polarization of this song is fascinating

AdolfChrist
May 17th 2018
17502 Comments


Compositorally? Is that a word? I think its "compositionally". #spellingnazi

RikRoach7
May 17th 2018
3480 Comments


I don't know. It's not my mother tongue.

Darius the Great
May 17th 2018
18148 Comments


Ah, what is?

RikRoach7
May 17th 2018
3480 Comments


German

Realm
May 18th 2018
2451 Comments


Yorngl

Alastor
May 18th 2018
1969 Comments


"there are a LOT of parts where one thing is thrown in after another and they don't fit together at all"

funny, I always felt the same about Agalloch's music as a whole. But the individual parts are so good that it works, especially in Pale Folklore.

RikRoach7
May 18th 2018
3480 Comments


Pale Folklore is definitely guilty of it. The other ones, not so much, especially Ashes Against the Grain. That one's songs are very cohesive.

BlindHouse
May 18th 2018
145 Comments


Quite like the music, the vocals are just bizarre though.

Gmork89
May 18th 2018
7703 Comments


I like this way more that Pillorian tbh.

br4dl3yb34r
May 20th 2018
215 Comments


Standard Disclaimer: Am Very Drunk

As someone that loves Giant Squid, it's surprising to me how polarizing the vocals are. I think they're great. They are bizarre in the best possible way. I think a lot of the people criticizing this are expecting it to be very similar to Agalloch, which is understandable, but I love the direction this project is heading. I found Pillorian to be very unambitious, albeit well executed. This is something else entirely. Really looking forward to hearing the rest of it.

DarkNoctus
May 20th 2018
10501 Comments


i was expecting nothing out of either band after ts&ts disappointed me but what john haughm/pillorian offered was just so typical. yeah it has some nice tracks and some great riffs here and there and sometimes i do spin it and enjoy it, it's by no means a bad record but it's nothing beyond that. i'm digging this far more than expected. there's so much going on and all of it hits as far as i'm concerned.

Spado
May 20th 2018
489 Comments


sounds like HIM and Immolation had a demented child

lalchimiste
May 22nd 2018
871 Comments


Feels like this is going to be like CCR's Mardi Gras. The band seems lost without John and does not sound like a cohesive unit. On first listen, nothing really grabbed my attention, the whole thing was pretty much meandearing with uninteresting riffs after riffs and pretty subpar vox. I have pretty much 0 expectations now so maybe I'll be suprised

Pillorian comparison are obligatory...Pillorian's debut was one of the best bm releases last year with great songwriting and atmosphere (albeit not the most original).




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DarkNoctus
May 22nd 2018
10501 Comments


i cannot understand how anyone can say this (or the band as a whole) doesn't sound cohesive, it absolutely does.

SCREAM!
May 23rd 2018
15754 Comments


Yeah, this is great. Much like TS&TS it's grown on me a lot with each listen

Catatonic
May 23rd 2018
151 Comments


There's a lot to like in this song, though the vocal mix is really odd to my ears. I never liked Giant Squid much so I wasn't anticipating enjoying this at all though, but I am digging it. There are a couple of riffs in this song that make me realize how important the guitarist was to Agalloch and makes me realize why I find Pillorian so lackluster. Seeing Pillorian tomorrow night nonetheless.

jesterhead92
May 23rd 2018
5352 Comments


Pillorian was pretty boring when I saw them open for WITTR

WITTR was kind of disappointing too though

Pebster49
May 24th 2018
3021 Comments


Yikes the vocals

Astral Abortis
May 24th 2018
6736 Comments


listening again, this is still really good. drum sound is kind of annoying though, especially the ride bell tinkatinkatinkatinka towards the end

DungeonBoy
May 24th 2018
4767 Comments


"Pillorian was pretty boring when I saw them open for WITTR"

kinda, yeah

"WITTR was kind of disappointing too though"

get outta here

Gmork89
May 24th 2018
7703 Comments


WITTR were pretty good when I saw them.

Sevengill
May 24th 2018
8660 Comments


Just saw Pillorian close for Falls of Rauros. Pillorian was good but not great.

SpiritCrusher2
May 24th 2018
6068 Comments


"WITTR was kind of disappointing too though"

yea that was my experience too. I've never listened to Wiegedood before that night when they were opening for WITTR, but those guys totally stole the show.

jesterhead92
May 24th 2018
5352 Comments


WITTR was at their best when they were playing Queen of the Borrowed Light, the rest was just ok

Wiegedood wasn't at the show but I’ve never listened to them

DarkNoctus
June 18th 2018
10501 Comments


i'm low-key obsessed with this track

DungeonBoy
June 19th 2018
4767 Comments


y'all jam the new track, Glacial Gold?

https://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2018/06/19/620484637/khorada-forged-from-agalloch-and-giant-squids-ashes-burnishes-glacial-gold


dbizzles
June 19th 2018
12292 Comments


Nah, but now I will. I listened to this again and it was better the second time around. Still not sure how much I like it.

br4dl3yb34r
June 19th 2018
215 Comments


New song sounds like it wouldn't be out of place on a Giant Squid album.

SCREAM!
June 19th 2018
15754 Comments


"Nah, but now I will. I listened to this again and it was better the second time around. Still not sure how much I like it."

Give it a couple more tries. It's grown on me a lot

WatchItExplode
June 19th 2018
5941 Comments


Well that put a big ole' grin on my face. I'm hoping the album is going to be greater than the sum of its parts. These tracks are at their best when they sound like Giant Squid tbh.

lalchimiste
June 20th 2018
871 Comments


holy shit I think it's even worse than the first single. There's nothing original or any musical idea rich enough to sustain my attention (yeah there's a shallow Agallochy lead at 4 min so low and panned to the left it's laughable...). The only thing that's surprising about this is that nobody tried to stop that vocal performance and try to find somebody that could actually sing in key

SCREAM!
June 20th 2018
15754 Comments


How is he not in key? I actually think he sounds a lot better on the second song than the first. The sound they went for on that one suits his vocal style a lot better

Gmork89
June 20th 2018
7703 Comments


Yeah please explain how he's not in key.

lalchimiste
June 20th 2018
871 Comments


I have VERY limited background in musical theory, but let's take the first 2 mins for example. Assuming the song is in natural minor mode, his vocal lines are basically following the guitar lines for the first 2 mins or so right? But many times, he actually is not hitting the notes from the same scale (or key)in that mode, especially when he goes in a higher (ex. at 20-ish seconds) which creates a rather discordant "harmony" and makes me cringe really hard. I might be totally wrong but its the feeling I get...

I am not trying to be a dick, but I am a huuuuuge Agalloch fan (even TSATS) and I'm just really disappointed with this so far, not just vocally but musically as well. Plus, some of the mixing decision in terms of level and instrument panning are quite strange too

DarkNoctus
June 20th 2018
10501 Comments


Assuming the song is in natural minor mode, his vocal lines are basically following the guitar lines for the first 2 mins or so right But many times, he actually is not hitting the notes from the same scale (or key)in that mode


he objectively is hitting notes on the same minor scale so i have no idea what you're talking about

DungeonBoy
June 20th 2018
4767 Comments


Lol he's definitely objectively off pitch quite often on both this and the other song. Sure he's aiming for notes within the key, but ends up wavering around the actual correct pitches. It reminds me of what music would sound like if I tried singing. Just listen to 3:43 - to 4:00 for example. I'm still not exactly sure how I feel about this project but you guys have better ears than that, unless you're pedantically arguing key vs pitch

AdolfChrist
June 20th 2018
17502 Comments


yeah he is not a good singer.

SCREAM!
June 20th 2018
15754 Comments


Upon 2nd listen of the new song I do hear some of what lalchimsite and dungeon are saying but not to the same extent I think and I do still think the sound of his voice pairs pretty well with that style.

Overall I like it (and I am also a huge Agalloch fan and probably the biggest TSatS defender on this damn site)

DungeonBoy
July 19th 2018
4767 Comments


Salt streaming in full. Enjoy!:

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8466178/khorada-salt-debut-album-ex-agalloch-giant-squid-members-listen

dbizzles
July 19th 2018
12292 Comments


Good looking out. Might jam that tonight.

Sevengill
July 19th 2018
8660 Comments


AJ is the fucking man. Since Giant Squid dissolved, he's dropped Squalus and now this and both are great.

dbizzles
July 19th 2018
12292 Comments


This was better than I expected. Going to have to jam it again, but I was pleasantly surprised on first listen.

dbizzles
August 17th 2018
12292 Comments


Anyone?

Demon of the Fall
August 17th 2018
8109 Comments


I was going to check this, then subsequently forgot. Thanks for the reminder.

DungeonBoy
August 17th 2018
4767 Comments


kinda surprised nobody jumped on reviewing this

Marehelm
August 17th 2018
619 Comments


Working on it. Probably done by the middle of next week.

lalchimiste
August 17th 2018
871 Comments


My lukewarm reception to the first 2 singles has slightly warmed up since listening to the full album a few times. I still am not a fan of the vox, but I can get over them even if they are cringe worthy at times (Don't get me wrong, I dig diarrhea toilet vox DM or tortured cat in a forest BM vox and fist-in-the-sky operatic vox, but this is another style completely). Overall the project feels like the vessel for Don et al. to go all-in on the more experimental/progressive side of Agalloch which results in a totally different atmosphere than an Agalloch record.

Anyways, as always, multiple listens are always required to get a full grasp/enjoyment out of a record and it seems this one keeps growing on me everytime



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