Trent Reznor Disses Radiohead

2008-03-13 by sickjesus | 45 Comments
"What they did right: they surprised the world with a new record, and it was available digitally first. What they did wrong: by making it such a low quality thing, not even including artwork... to me that feels insincere."

Full story at nme.com

http://www.nme.com/news/nine-inch-nails/35132

Trent Reznor, by the way, made his band's latest release Ghosts I-IV available in a variety of formats, including a deluxe $300 package which sold out within days, netting him $750,000. It had artwork though, so no hypocrisy here.

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AP07373
March 13th 2008
493 Comments


Well I think Radiohead is completely awful and worthless, so I can appreciate this.

8ight8all
March 13th 2008
178 Comments


Whatever dude,

I'm not a fan either, but they offered up their CD for free. In an industry full of greedy people, that has to count for something.

DerMond
March 13th 2008
126 Comments


in before Ghosts I-IV>In Rainbows AND In Rainbows>Ghosts I-IV.

ton be honest i agree with the man.

McP3000
March 13th 2008
4121 Comments


in b4 NIN fags defend ReznorThis Message Edited On 03.13.08

Shuffle It All
March 13th 2008
121 Comments


i thought reznor bought the album for 10,000 dollars?

anyways, its probably been completely out of context, and its in nme, possibly the worst music related magazine in the world.

Altmer
March 13th 2008
5714 Comments


yah trent is kinda right but before radiohead was doing that nobody else was. they're both right.

Jawaharal
March 13th 2008
1832 Comments


insincere because of no artwork

Eliminator
March 13th 2008
2067 Comments


yah trent is kinda right but before radiohead was doing that nobody else was.
wrong

masscows
March 13th 2008
2230 Comments


wow no artwork

who cares

AP07373
March 13th 2008
493 Comments


Well from a business sense Trent is right. I'm no NIN fan, but radiohead handled their digital release horribly, which is why it was a huge failure.

Sure it was a bold and noble idea for Radiohead, but if executed as poorly as it was, then who even cares?

DariusBlue
March 13th 2008
11 Comments


I'd rather have the album first, then the artwork, rather than the other way around.

sickjesus
March 13th 2008
163 Comments


its probably been completely out of context

the article gives the context in which he said it, unless the three dots in "not even including artwork...to me that just seems insincere" are where some crucial statement has been strategically omitted.
and its in nme, possibly the worst music related magazine in the world.

no arguments there, i was just extremely bored

Skyler
March 13th 2008
1084 Comments


Make the article title more misleading please.

ColdDamnation
March 13th 2008
159 Comments


I was dissapointed by the crazy acid rainbow artwork too...but once the cd is on, who gives a damn... trent's a deuche, but he does have a bitchin' guitar.

jontheatheist
March 13th 2008
79 Comments


No they aren't equal. Radiohead is the best current band and Reznor is a has been who makes pretentious double albums that aren't very good, yes I just called out the Fragile so go cry.

ASberg
March 13th 2008
2161 Comments


I sometimes think artwork and the booklet do alot for an album. listening to it while reading through the lyrics and getting the atmosphere from the pictures is fun for me atleast. btw radiohead are far from the best band around...

HighandDriving
March 13th 2008
3288 Comments


Trent not really dissing, he's just saying, "whatever you can do, I can do better."

Shuffle It All
March 13th 2008
121 Comments


im siding with radiohead, because i think they are so much better, but as has been said, nme talk bollocks, and he probably didnt actually mean it.

sickjesus
March 13th 2008
163 Comments


Trent not really dissing, he's just saying, "whatever you can do, I can do better."

i'm not up on the slang that you kids are using these days, does that count as frontin' rather than dissing?
NIN and radiohead both operate in this irritating holier-than-thou sphere of music which is slightly edgy yet accepted by the mainstream but still painfully concerned with not "selling out" and being "fake" and whatnot. this is my basis for concluding that trent questioning radiohead's sincerity qualifies as a diss


Chewie
March 13th 2008
4544 Comments


well there both good bands, and musically i like NIN more, but I'm a fan of both. Personally, artwork is important but it should not dictate whether the music is good or sincere or not. Now Reznor did his digital download way better then Radiohead, so he has a right to say he did it better, because he did.

Chewie
March 13th 2008
4544 Comments


and this shitty magazine is twisting everything, he's not dissing them at all.

Squamish
March 13th 2008
84 Comments


Radiohead obviously has different priorities than Reznor. They've said that it just seemed like an interesting experiment to them.

RoshanC
March 13th 2008
219 Comments


Sure, Reznor may have given his downloads more meat, but we must remember that Radiohead were doing this at a time when very few other artists had done such a thing, and nobody of anywhere Radiohead's size. They took more of a risk. Without the buzz around the method that the Radiohead created, I dount Reznor would have embraced this way of selling record so quickly.

I agree with what he is saying though. I dont download because I like to have the artwork and liner notes in front of me with a CD, but thats just me.

VicariousIntent
March 13th 2008
1649 Comments


Would Trent seriously have thought to do this sort of thing if Radiohead didn't do it first? I do recall Radiohead saying artwork was an important element in their music, but I don't really agree with what he's saying here.

FriendofTheDevil70
March 13th 2008
388 Comments


Reznor isn't insulting Radiohead's music here at all. He's simply saying the release was extremely informal, which is complete fact. I love In Rainbows to pieces myself, but Reznor is correct in what he's saying here.

DWittisarockstar
March 13th 2008
1501 Comments


As a NIN fan, Trent Reznor can do no wrong. Well, except for that Happiness in Slavery video...

13 is too young to see that

riobravo1023
March 14th 2008
274 Comments


I like the music and that's pretty much all that matters to me.

Chewie
March 14th 2008
4544 Comments


agreed ^^, In Rainbows was good, Ghost I-IV was good, nuff said.

Shadius
March 14th 2008
203 Comments


This is coming from the man that paid 5k for In Rainbows. He can't hate them that much.

TheIronWeasel
March 14th 2008
123 Comments


He's not really dissing them, he's saying he disagrees with the way they went about selling their last album

cometuesday
March 14th 2008
959 Comments


Are people confusing "low-quality" with "bad music" or something? That being said, I
bought both in their physical form...

edit: oh and the assumption that Reznor would never choose to do this if it
hadn't been for Radiohead is even more stupid than misinterpreting what he's saying.This Message Edited On 03.14.08

icaught fire444
March 14th 2008
622 Comments


Radiohead never really caught my eye, so I'll side with the dude. Not that NIN is anything special though.

UnstoppableNewt
March 14th 2008
9 Comments


Well, as an artist myself, I can say that an allegation of insincerity is one of the most cutting insults you can deliver to a musician, especially to an avant-garde group like Radiohead.
I think that, while the album download may have been handled sloppily, it served its purpose, which was to get good music to a lot of people at an affordable price, and I think Reznor is badmouthing them as a publicity stunt for his own album.
But hey, what do I know.

Pebster49
March 14th 2008
3041 Comments


I agree with Reznor, he was way more prepared for this than Radiohead, even though he didn't expect it to be so big since his severs got jammed.

AP07373
March 14th 2008
493 Comments


"Radiohead is the best current band "


This is funny. Thank you for your comedy. Maybe you meant to write "Radiohead's music puts me to sleep". That would be more accurate.

Eliminator
March 14th 2008
2067 Comments


[quote=RoshanC]They took more of a risk.[/quote] how exactly did Radiohead take a risk when they are, more than likely, financially stable?This Message Edited On 03.14.08

HighandDriving
March 14th 2008
3288 Comments


i'm not up on the slang that you kids are using these days, does that count as frontin' rather than dissing?


Are you kidding me?

keepmypmasxe
March 14th 2008
37 Comments


trent razor can go to hell


steveosk8s
March 14th 2008
135 Comments


for the last time, radiohead were NOT the first people to do the free album thing, not by a longshot.

and i love radiohead, im a huge fan, but even i must admit that in rainbows was a bit lacking overall. it had some stellar tracks, and some that were just standard stuff. radiohead DID handle it poorly, very poorly, with terrible sound quality rates, and no artwork or anything.

now im also a huge NIN fan, and ghosts I-IV is excellent, ghosts 2 is the only forgettable section of it. reznor is right, and reznor's method of giving albums is better, it was put into theory with saul williams, and perfected with ghosts.

botb
March 14th 2008
19802 Comments


I agree that Radiohead's latest isn't that great. It's soo severly overrated and nutjocked on sputnik that it's not even funny.

FriendofTheDevil70
March 14th 2008
388 Comments


^No. Some people were expecting an epic concept album. When they got a good, modest 10 song record (though there were still plenty of interesting themes), they were disspointed. I'm not saying is a hands down classic, but it does warrant a 4/5 rating.

barbarian
March 15th 2008
341 Comments


i see where reznor is coming from, but i sort of wonder if radiohead even cares? i thought they more or less just wanted to see what was up and make some kind of a statement.

god too many people riding said artists' jockstraps to even have a clue what is going on.

i think trent and 'head are both pretty sweet for doing what they did. hopefully both are going to learn from the experience and improve their music products even more in the future.

1drummer
March 15th 2008
330 Comments


wtf... anyone that doesnt like radiohead is very imature and un-cultured in music. smoke a bowl and listen to radiohead, you might get a better impression of what theyre trying to do with their music.

jnbp
March 15th 2008
3 Comments


fuck trent reznor... he is the one who's being insincere here... after the release of In Rainbows he said he payed 10,000 dollars for it, but the truth is that you couldn't give more than one hundred dollars for it...filthy hypocrite... liar... is he on a downward spiral?

depthperception
March 18th 2008
4 Comments


@1drummer: So you have to like radiohead to be classed as 'mature'? What kind of bullshit is that? GTFO!

@jnbp: **** you too! You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Dumbasses should be banned from the internet.



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