It'd be nice if they'd write something that was actually metal, and also doesn't suck a whole lot.

You'd think from their first five or six albums they would know how to do that, but apparently not.

Tell you the truth, at this point I'd even settle for an album in the style of I Disappear, which I thought was terrible when it came out, but now seems a masterpiece next to St. Anger.
And that song they did with Ja Rule when James was in rehab? Don't even get me started.

It would be nice for them to stand up actually spend some time on their next album. They have amazing talent, and they stand out in the alternative-rock genre as a ''metal'' legend. There first three albums were amazing.....they just havent sat down and took the time. There way over there heads.

What song did they do with Ja Rule? I've never been able to listen to St. Anger all the way through so I must never have gotten to it.

Hrm...I read this somewhere too...
55 minutes of brutality? Thats how he categorizes St Anger? I honestly thought it was 55 minutes of s**t.
This new album better be at least decent, or at least have some flippin solos...

St. Anger is more like 75 minutes of shit. 55? What was he thinking?

Probably a typo.

well i like st. anger....they honestly haven't made an album so far that i dont like...

as far as the old school tag,larss used it talkingabout st. anger when referring to a more raw sound,less alternative,more thrashy. this time he is referring to the old school way of writing. going back to the way they worked on songs...i dont think they will ever go back to the thrash days...and i wouldn't want them to...i am kind of tired of metal now anyway...i hope they create something good and new. i like thrash metallica and straight up rock and roll metallica. so,yeah...thats it.

I REALLY hope this album is good!!! Even though I won't get my hopes too high cuz I know it wont...

I have some faith in Rubin.....but Kirk definitly needs do do some soloing.

Bunch of self-indulgent wankers

LiveWire, it was called 'We Did It Again'.

Ironically, St. Anger was the album that showed the world the band's spark was dead.

The sad things is that when the new album comes out, if it happens to be crap, we'll have to go through the same feuding process we went through with St. Anger...there'll be that core of 14 year old fans who maintain that it's the best thing the band has ever done, and that we're all full of shit.
It's really quite depressing, when you think about it.

Well they said they have been listening to their old albums to get ideas for their new album, so maybe thats a good sign?

agrees with pattern

personally, i love these guys, and i've heard they can still kick major butt live..
but st anger was a disappointment, and that thing with ja rule sounded like a practical joke..
i'll still buy the new album, though..

I though St. Anger was good, but not as good as the older stuff. Its just different i say.

pattern, i am a teenager and i think st. anger was as bad as the next real fan. sure i wasn't there when Master of Puppets was released but that doesent mean i like it any less. You should not generalise as much. But i know what you mean.

Yeah, sorry FadeToBlack, I didn't mean to imply that there aren't cool teenagers out there with good taste in music, I was really just talking about my experiences around my area. What can I say, the youth of today annoys me. Present company excepted, of course.
Man, I feel old now.

I don't want a st.anger part 2, but then again I would detest another album similar to load - which is what i'm expecting this to be. I'm in anticipation though, please don't let me down again. Oh and what a mislead little man if he thinks 'St.Anger' showed the band that they still had 'the spark'.

I know someone that heard one of the songs from their new album. He said it was really good and it had solos and stuff. So hopefully its good

Its kinda sad that Sum 41 can make a better Metallica song than Metallica these days. I hope something good comes from this, although I shouldnt get my hopes up.

^^^^^^^
Oh shit, it's funny cos it's true

Metallica are such good musicians, it's really about the ideas not the ability.
St. Anger seemed to be keeping them standing still ability-wise, with nothing really challenging or new.
I personally don't think it's that hopeful if they're going over old stuff to get ideas: although that may well help them get a 'feel' back, it wont make the songs any better... and lyrically they need to move on from all that introspection: yeah sure we all get it, they need to 'binge and purge' blah-blah-blah, but they also need to get back to respecting their fans enough to write stuff that rocks as music rather than a cathartic exercise.
I'll buy it and give it many a listen cos it's them and cos they're basically still one of the few bands I respect. But... I can easily understand why a lot of Metallica fans have given up hope and wont be looking to get back in to them.
Live they are still fairly freakin' awesome and are obviously still fired by it all. It's ashame they don't put out a live EP as a teaser before the next album, it would give us all a reminder of the potential that's still there...
Sorry to bang on

"Metallica are such good musicians, it's really about the ideas not the ability."

As much as I would like to believe this statement, in Metallica's case it really just isn't true. They no where they should stand but they want to leave their mark throughout their entire career, trying to adapt to the modern music scene. That was their biggest mistake. They are great musicians, but their ideas are limited within their ability to write the sort of songs they want to write to fit this era (if that made any sense). to be honest, I don't actually know what I want from Metallica anymore.

The thing is, Metallica has always done what they wanted to. Thats why they are Metallica and not some hair metal band. Ya sure they did go down in the area of speed and thrash, but they are 40 year old dudes and thy are still rocking hard.This Message Edited On 04.27.06This Message Edited On 04.27.06

Hmm, I wrote some stuff here, but it didn't work

I was explaining to Dragon Guitarist that they weren't infact looking at their old
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WARPATH: Iron Maiden is a bunch of 50 and 60 year old dudes and they've shown no signs of slowing down anytime soon. Just cause the members of metallica are older you can't give them too much leeway for not making St. Anger as good as it could have been. Sorry if that wasn't the point you were getting at... but it sounded like that

My point is not that they should have made it better, or to give them leeway for being old. But rather give them credit just cuz they are still making music. I mean St. Anger had some good riffs actually. Everyone hates it cuz they didnt have solos. I swear im like the only one on this whole site that acually ejoyed St. Anger lol.

As Godsmack Said, "I stand alone" LoL.This Message Edited On 04.29.06This Message Edited On 04.29.06

Quote:
"As much as I would like to believe this statement, in Metallica's case it really just isn't true. They no where they should stand but they want to leave their mark throughout their entire career, trying to adapt to the modern music scene. That was their biggest mistake. They are great musicians, but their ideas are limited within their ability to write the sort of songs they want to write to fit this era (if that made any sense). to be honest, I don't actually know what I want from Metallica anymore."

Dude, I dont know about u, but i havent heard any albums nowadays that sounded at all like St. Anger. Most metal bands now sound nothing like that CD.

I think metallica are pretty much over thr was one good song now-a-days and tht was Some kind of monster. BTW pattern i also agree with what u say, im 15 but i completely agree tht MOP was one fo thr best albums and tht thr just sell outs now. The album better be ****ing good or else there finished, one or two good songs won't make them get bk on track least not at this late stage

St. Anger wasnt really a bad album.....it was just not Metallica. i mean, im as big a Metallica fan as the next guy, but you gotta take into account that these guys dont wanna fade away....

I am sure I am one of the very few people that accually know what wen't wrong with S.t Anger!

Me and my band played the entire s.t anger album just after the release of the album in 03 It was a very easy album to play so we got on with recording it to CD for our GCSE exams...

One thing we all noticed. Our S.t Anger sounded very old school and very decent. The thing that let the album down was as follows....
I also wrote what my band did to the songs.

The problem
The crunchy distortion! Oh No!... And the flowing riffs...

What My Band did
Add a little reverb and tighten up the riffs fully. Kinda whip the riffs outta the guitar rather than be a lazy guitarist...

The Problem
The Snare Drum/The Ride Cymbal...

What My Band did
Used a normal snare drum and got it tight... I wanted to achieve more of a ''crack'' than a ''cloom'' As for the ride cymbal. Instead of frantically mid sticking the side of it get a plastic tipped stick and hit the bell of the ride... (Ahh Much Better)

I think if the band re-released S.t Anger changing those things the album would have an 80% better response...

Oh And the lyrics are a little repetitive in certain songs...
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Hey finally someone that doesnt hate St.Anger!

You are right Jred, its an easy album to play. Its hella fun though. And I have to say its pretty heavy too.(not as heavy as older Metallica though).

well i can proudly say if its anything like st.anger in not buying the new fucking album, maybe larz needs to realize that after the greatness of 15 years with bob was working for them until rehab, hmm maybe alcohol is a big part of the great communicator, well atleast for alcoholica!

O ****!!!!!!!!!, this sounds an awful lot like the making of st.anger according to the some kind of monster dvd, and i dont trust "the Danish midget" after he brought out that piece of work, did he say they were jamming to riffs from the st. anger period?????? idn about you all but any riff that was rejected on the st.anger cd will quite possibly bring tears to my eyes and make me vomit.

At least Rick Rubin is producing

O ****!!!!!!!!!, this sounds an awful lot like the making of st.anger according to the some kind of monster dvd, and i dont trust "the Danish midget" after he brought out that piece of work, did he say they were jamming to riffs from the st. anger period?????? idn about you all but any riff that was rejected on the st.anger cd will quite possibly bring tears to my eyes and make me vomit.

At least Rick Rubin is producing

Yeahm im very afraid of what Metalllica is gonna do. I mean, i don't want them to quit, but they just kep putting out **** they are gonns kill themselves.