lol.

idiots calling the kettle stupid

Hoping that tool will do something bad enough to get him sent back to prison before long.

I'd believe it.

Indeed.

And yet people still defend Ronnie

Oh my goodness.

I just find it cool that the record label is getting involved to this extent.

Woo, Sputnik is now famous

Woo, Sputnik is now famous [2]

I Fukin hate Ronnie so much

Eat shit Radke you scumbag.

LoL Ronnie, i thought i could never think less of you.
And you're consistently proving me wrong every fucking time.

Honestly, I'm more upset with letlive. than anyone. The fact that they went on this tour pisses me off. They talk shit about these types of bands, yet they go on tour with them... Have more integrity than that. If they really hate these bands, they should do their own smaller tours and take lesser known, talented bands with them. Play shows at smaller venues with underground bands and keep your credibility instead of trying to line your pockets.

Bothe bands suck hopefully they kill each other. But radke is just a tool.
And fuck now Sputnik will be associated with these gay boys

Might have not been there decision Tom

That could be true, but I don't see Epitaph forcing them to go on shitty tours, though. ETID and Converge are also on
Epitaph and they seem to tour with solid bands who are fitting for them to tour with. Like, the bands on this tour don't
match letlive's style at all.

I'm quite disgusted that Letlive is touring with these crap bands as well, but I'm certainly not going to lose any respect for them over it. If it wasn't their choice, it sucks, if it was, oh well. If you need some cash then do what you gotta do.

i think i wanna buy a jersey

I'm going for the Gucci thong personally.

For some odd reason i suddenly feel the urge to buy a jersey as well.

I'm gonna have to side with I See Stars on this one.

I could really use a handbag and a bikini, not to mention, $ 50Nike shox.

I feel like == ((( http://www.buy3buy.com/ ))) ==== might be a place where I could acquire said items, all in one place.

Damn Epitaph forcing bands on their roster to tour together. Hopefully letlive gets a better tour next time

The fact I See Stars said they'd tour for free just ups my respect for them

Hahahahaha Ronnie is such a whiney bitch, he loves throwing temper tantrums and hurting people.

Those scary ISS auto-tune toking pot smoking scenesters must have threatened his angry abusive sobriety. Also props to them for willing to tour for free, seriously fucking you Ronnie.

I would tour with Justin Bieber if given the chance. I say it's good they're getting their music to kids that generally listen to shit, maybe it'll do them some good, and I'm sure it pays well.

TomAkaVeto

"Honestly, I'm more upset with letlive. than anyone. The fact that they went on this tour pisses me off. They talk shit about these types of bands, yet they go on tour with them... Have more integrity than that. If they really hate these bands, they should do their own smaller tours and take lesser known, talented bands with them. Play shows at smaller venues with underground bands and keep your credibility instead of trying to line your pockets."

Nahh, you go play where the kids are. It's not like they re wrote their songs for the tour, anyone who enjoys the music at a FiR show will likely enjoy their music for the same reasons i do despite my hate for FiR type of bands.

These idiots used us as a reference?

NO!

Poor letlive. Having to deal with these idiots.

They all have different color ties on in their band picture.

Fuckin' rad shit.

no someguest, sumerian records referenced us. does that make you feel better

A little.

god damn all these scene bands are made up of retards

How do you have respect for someone you've never met, whose music is absolute shit?

"The last shreds of respect I had for Ronnie just went flying out the window."

you had respect for ronnie?

My friend was trying to talk to him at warped tour years ago and Ronnie wouldn't even look at him because he was checking
himself out in a mirror haha.

Yeah I heard he was a massive douche from the very beginning.

yeah lol, fuck this guy

Lol all this for smoking pot? What an asshole. I See Stars playing for free makes me have more respect for them too.

Lol at the fact they used a Bane quote

What a great human being
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD2LsFWbC3U&feature=related

oh my god
the fact he has a room in the back of the bus pisses me off so fucking much

lol'd at the usage of the Bane quote.

Props to them for playing for free (no matter how shitty their music may be).
Also, we're now slightly famous.

High school never leaves the veins of Radke.

ugh i just listened to an i see stars song out of curiousity

i bet they suck

motherfucking press coverage wont trick me

Lol

Don't like either bands music but damn I hate Ronnie Radke

Radke is a tool old news.

Such a pathetic behaviour in the youtube video, where he watned to kick a group of people out

Props to ISS for not being 12-year-olds about it

Nice Sumarian Records linked sputnikmusic

Both bands are for pussies.

i see stars have sometimes been a bit of a guilty pleasure for me, but falling in reverse was always flat out bad, this is so not punk rock of ronnie. BAD RONNIE.

They're just crap for homos and scene whores, If you want real punk listen to the ramones, not this garbage.

unnecessary input about not liking either band but Radke is being a cunt and ISS are aight.

Radke is just a fucking joke and part of the scum, he msut be sentenced to death for his crimes against humanity itself.

Wtf is this shit? Kindergarten?

they got pwnd

I See Suck

Digital Renegade is enjoyable, (:

This fucking guy -.-

Gotta love the Sputnik linkdrop. We're moving up guys.
The fact that I looked at the "stupid f'n face" part and didn't question it for a second should say enough about Ronnie. Dude's a joke now. Sumerian calling him rotten just makes it funnier. Imagine having a record company calling you a dick in an official statement.

He might be a dick, BUT AT LEAST HE QUIT DOING DRUGS GUYS.

can we talk about how bane was quoted in their post -_-

people are still defending Ronnie, fucking retards.

Sumerian seems to take good care of its clients, according to this. Nice to hear it.

this one is pretty cool, he kicked out this kid with an etf shirt and even some kids who were supporting fir for no apparent reason
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KjJeidWcUKs

That day, for no particular reason, I decided to kick a few people out of my show. So I kicked a few people out. And when I got there, I thought maybe kick out some escape the fate fans. And when I got there, I thought maybe I'd just kick out a guy in a flannel for talking shit. And I figured, since I've gone this far, maybe I'd just kick out some girls that came all the way from the great land of Canada. And that's what I did. I kicked out some chicks from Canada. For no particular reason I just kept on going.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Man, every time I hear about a Sumerian band, I just wonder how the owner went from being the vocalist in Reflux to being the owner of a label that signs some of the most generic core bands out there. But still, at least he takes care of the bands he signs.

"Please I can't wait for read what you have to post about the big Truth!! For the stupid ppl who thinks this happened because ISS is better than FIR!! Please FIR is much better than ISS just go and compare both FB profiles, ISS only 200 thousand and FIR 700 thousand and FIR is a new band and ISS is an old band.... Ronnie is a legend and more than a legend he is a professional who don't like be around negativity... U should fire those fucking addicts"

That was written by an adult male on the Sumerian Facebook page. I have no hope in humanity.

"Just because you no longer do drugs doesn't mean you are no longer a horrible human being. Ronnie now abuses people instead of substances."

Couldn't have said it better myself. Radke, you're a coward.

and I See Stars handled this very respectfully, continuing to tour without pay.

this one is pretty cool, he kicked out this kid with an etf shirt and even some kids who were supporting fir for no
apparent reason
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KjJeidWcUKs

Ouch. That was an interesting watch to say the least!

Oh looky Ronnie responded

http://www.underthegunreview.net/2012/11/04/ronnie-radke-responds-to-i-see-stars-sumerian-statements-utg-sighs/

Isn't that EXACTLY what he said when he was accused of domestic abuse? ^ AND the mic stand thing?

Ya that's the point though

I don't know why he would go to all that trouble and release that statement. He could've just said something like "I'm not your normal motherfucker" like he did on stage.

This guy's is a genius, clearly.

Well, HE'D like to think so

I think he lost this battle.

If you have a record label calling you out then you can't just say "you can't believe everything you read" and entire company is on his ass and he says that. hahahaha

yeah news article is coming, not sure why but I submitted it

HORAYYYY

ISS > that fucker any day

Any fucker any day > that fucker any day

yay

I enjoy the record labels stance, adds a lot of heft to the post.

"Ronnie Radke is not a good human being"

Something about this statement is both incredibly harsh and understating simultaneously.

They should just turn stuff like this into a movie, or a TV show. It'd sell millions because it's so dramatic. [/sarcasm]

"Man, every time I hear about a Sumerian band, I just wonder how the owner went from being the vocalist in Reflux to being the owner of a label that signs some of the most generic core bands out there. But still, at least he takes care of the bands he signs."

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Yeah kudos to Sumerian. That's just a huge kick in the dick to Ronnie.

This is like the special olympics without the sportsmanship

Someone's not getting a gold medal

Just wait till you read the next news article about this. His response is ridiculously typical/dumb.

I'm not too sure but I think some of his statement makes no sense whatsoever

And haha that seems to be ONE think Ronnie is good at

Everyone involved in this drama is a huge faggot but ronnie especially

I mean ISS and Sumerian were pretty cool in this drama

Yeah they get a few respect points. I was more referring to the bands music when I called them faggots.

That makes much more sense lol

Yeah their stuff is horrible
Only somewhat respectable work was their first album

I liked one song on the first one but it's not something I listen to anymore.

yeah same

got old fast, and only like a third of that album is decen. has some nostalgia value though

Sputnik was linked... that's cool. But yeah this guy seems like an asshole.

I hadn't heard of this Radke guy until today but he seems like a piece of shit.

He seems like what he is

Ya really. That video posted is kind of ridiculous, regardless if the band is shit or not.

i think i like iss now

Lmao, I really can't believe this guy has THIS big of an ego. Props to ISS for wanting to play for free & Sumerian for backing up one of their bands.

Can't say I'm surprised, Radke seems like more of a douche now than I think ANYONE imagined was possible.

There's such good music that people have added to this site and bands like these get all the attention, why??

Would imagine so.

Ronnie is a huge tool, but he makes passable music. Same with I See Stars. I see where Ronnie is in the wrong on this one, but it really doesnt change anything. He is still on top because ISS isnt back on the tour. Guess the worst person won out this time.

lol their music sucks dick

I just don't really like this whole genre, or any of these bands that try and throw in dance beats and some dubstep here and there to call themselves Post-Hardcore.

yeah dance beats are definitely a crucial element of post-hxc

That's not what I meant, I meant that bands do that and then call themselves the genre because they did that, I didn't say they were right in calling themselves that.

no worries i was just being an asshole ;)

Oh lol, sorry I'm new to the site not really familiar with how stuff works around here yet.

Oh, come on guys, someone who spits in a fans face can't be all that bad.
Oh wait.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4381714657681

Wow, this guy is a real piece of work. Do people actually like this guy?

Figures, I just looked into a bit of his history, he's had an interesting past to say the least haha.

this is dumb

i see stars r dumb and bad at music

i like falling in reverse's shitty rock music way more

i would never pay to see it live tho

because of, well, the implication...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ1lc6KASWg

I don't know if anybody said this but holy fuck they used a fucking BANE quote are you fucking kidding me.

I don't usually follow what goes behind the scenes for bands, especially for bands like these so I'm not too familiar with a lot of the bands / performers in the scene.

That girl was... well, she needs to get her priorities straight to say the least.

why do kids worship this guy, he's a fucking murderer...

That fangirl was fucking hillarious, you made my day Andcas

oh my b andcas

"neurotic pop-star diva with a God complex"

nice one

who cares he looks like a dyke

Ronnie Radke needs to crawl in a hole, and die already. He acts like he is a savior to everyone in the world, that his music is inspirational, and everyone loves him. Fuck Ronnie Radke, and his fans.

He definitely seems to have an undeserved sense of self worth.

I don't know how you can grow such an ego by having idiots who like shitty music for fans. That just makes you even worse.

I hadn't even heard of this guy or any of his bands until yesterday and they suck as much as I imagined.

No one cares, both bands suck.

No one listens, screaming words that you fake hearing

I feel like Radke wants to be Gerard Way, but will never be. Ever.

all of them suck, Ronnie just sucks more

Pretty sure the ego comes from the money he's probably earned (I'm assuming those works of his sold pretty well)

i wonder how the inmates he's stuck with like his music. compared to them he probably looks like the girl on the Falling in Reverse cover

or was stuck with. i don't stay up to date on his jail time like some people do

true, since he has somewhat of a celebrity status, they would make sure to put him in a more "safe" prison.

Haven't listened to Falling in Reverse before anyways, should I give them a shot or is it just a waste of time.

don't. all the songs sound like the same shitty song, drop-c and overused sweep picking everywhere

its a waste

Ya, you all were right, I just listened to Goodbye Graceful which andcas linked and it was atrocious, there's no emotion invested at all and everything sounds like it was copied straight from other bands. His singing voice is decent though.

After listening to Tragic Magic I don't want to listen to anything else from this group, sorry andcas this band is just abhorrent lol.

One thing I noticed though from those two songs alone is that Falling in Reverse seems to be completely centered around Ronnie Radke, not just the lyrics but even the overall sound.

hes basically tyler carter only less bathed

Fags fighting

I've only heard one thing from his old band, but it didn't have Ronnie in it, it was their Issues Remix EP and it was terrible. I'm assuming that there is a lot of bad blood between the two bands.

I'm really getting tired of this guy. Everywhere i go, everything i see..... I doesn't mater... He's everywhere. All i see is a washed up has-been trying desperately to hold on to his dwindling relevance. Talk about the fame going to your head......

"escape the fate after ronnie is a joke and yeah there is."

escape the fate was and always will be a joke. ETF is almost funnier than Ronnie Radke

Yeah...ETF has never actually been good

Wow, what a fantastic manipulator. I mean just wow! Ladies and gentlemen, the most ignorant man in the music industry. He'll rile something up just to end it with the guilt statement. Fantastic Mr. Radke. No apologies, no confession, just....wow. 2 against 1 and yet he ends it with that disgusting statement.

yeah he's kinda an egotistical tardcake

damn, I See Stars make some pretty bad music but they gave this asshole what was coming to him.

"Please I can't wait for read what you have to post about the big Truth!! For the stupid ppl who thinks this happened because ISS is better than FIR!! Please FIR is much better than ISS just go and compare both FB profiles, ISS only 200 thousand and FIR 700 thousand and FIR is a new band and ISS is an old band.... Ronnie is a legend and more than a legend he is a professional who don't like be around negativity... U should fire those fucking addicts"

"That was written by an adult male on the Sumerian Facebook page. I have no hope in humanity."

Curseworship, I agree completely. Though my hope in humanity has been diminished for some time now. xD