I think I found my new avatar.This Message Edited On 11.21.08

Sadly you are probably right. Manipulator was painfully average and they seem to be going downhill.

Yeah it's got all of ghostships rerecorded, don't know what people that say this is going to be bad are smoking, this will be their best work!

It isn't their new album...people know that right?!

By the fact there's only going to be 3000 copies and they're doing something purely for their fans, it seems... It seems a lot of love has been put into it. I just hope the production wasn't rushed and that it hasn't changed TOO much (for the worst that is).

Even if it sucks, the artwork is still awesome.

Does anyone know if this will be available online? Maybe through the band's online merch store? Because none of the tour dates are anywhere near me. And I'd really like to score a copy of this bad boy.

im getting this when they come to southern california. this is going to be awesome, i love the ghostship demos and i highly doubt that Erak will mess it up. he's very knowledgable of what the fans want

Fall Of Troy fanboy says it will be awesome...

my fucking itunes turned my ghosthip demos to phantom on the horizon i was trippen balls

this will smell like burps after you eat something good. there is a trace of the good thing you once ate but itll mostly just be poopty.

Sexy cover. Never listened to the band.

Cover stinks, especially compared to their others. "The Fall of Troy" is 6x too big.

But there is also an octopus on the cover. This automatically makes it an awesome cover.

pretty good cover, I guess

If I recall right, you will be able to get it off their website for a while. But I expect it to be veeeery limited in how long you can get it (like I said, only 3000 copies...).

That is some gay artwork, hopefully the music will be better...

tbh i like the artwork.

releasing this without Tim doesn't really feel right

so terrible, such a joke.

manipulator was horrible.
my only hope for this band is this cd and their artwork isnt depicting any greatness for it.

Octopus. Sweet.

Bad artwork? It looks fine to me. I don't really see any issue. Though I thought tim was still going to do the art for them. oh well.

Manipulator was a good album and I liked it a LOT