Yeah...who cares. New Saosin song tomorrow !

Gonna be a solid 1.5, calling it now lol

Rerecordings are so pointless. and the original wasnt that amazing in the first place.

Big mistake agreed

There is absolutely no chance that this isn’t going to be terrible

"reactivation" and "recontextualization"

oh yeah this is gonna make me mad

Stoked to hear how BMtH ver. 2026 will handle this, can't wait already

Sounds like complete blasphemy

Why it’s already perfect

100£ a ticket for that one off show is INSANITY

I FEEL DEAD
I FEEL SO FUCKING DEAD

"The band has described the re-recording as a 'reactivation' and 'recontextualization'"
this tells me absolutely nothing. is it a pretentious band rerecording their stuff?

Rerecordings are so pointless. and the original wasnt that amazing in the first place. [2]

Album sucks and no re-recording can unsuckify it

"Rerecordings are so pointless"

Nah ABR crushed the Thrill Seeker redux

This is the best BMTH album. Mf smoking dust out here

Perhaps the only good BMTH album

I like some songs on Suicide Season

suicide season is their best!

Idk if I'd go that far but The Comedown is prob their best song

Oh true, in my mind it goes from this to there is a hell

I think this could be a very entertaining listen depending on how they do it. Not good, to be clear, just entertaining.

So dumb. Original is fire.

Interesting, debut is such a jam

Kinda intrigued

Yeah yall are tripping the original rules. I do not however have faith in them to do this well, but I hope they do. Would be rad if they crushed it

“100£ a ticket for that one off show is INSANITY”

People complaining about the price are buck ass wild. It’s worth it just for Static Dress and Rolo Tomassi alone.

Outbreak in general always looks so fucking tight, we literally just don’t get festivals like that in the most greatest and most freest nation on earth™️

BMTH and sheeptoken here in aus was a $200 show. Also re recordings are fine if theres a proper reason for it like Paradise Lost and Icon. This feels like them trying to win back the heavy crowd or re write their past: which both are just bleh

BMTH and sheeptoken here in aus was a $200 show. Also re recordings are fine if theres a proper reason for it like Paradise Lost and Icon. This feels like them trying to win back the heavy crowd or re write their past: which both are just bleh

'People complaining about the price are buck ass wild. It’s worth it just for Static Dress and Rolo Tomassi alone.'

Yeh 100 bob for that line up is more than reasonable in the current context of UK gig prices, Bring me on their tod will probably be the best part of 70 bob nowadays.

I'm gonna try and get tickets but I think it's gonna be super tough, I had no chance for the 2024 arena run it was an insta sell out on a 10 date arena run yet this is just one arena playing the classic shit.

Be cool if they actually pull this off and end up dropping their best album since Sempiternal.

We'll see.

Can Oli's voice even handle screaming anymore?

Could be good if they try to do something completely different with it instead of making a shiny carbon copy with better-sounding production. Maybe hire someone else to re-write some of the lyrics too— because that has never been their strong suit, even as they've gotten older.

[2], that'd be the best course of action.

Guess Oli's shrieks should be okay but the growls have sucked for years. So it's either that
a) he's practicing real hard and will deliver
b) he can't handle it and won't deliver
c) they'll change the composition thoroughly

Intrigued I suppose.

They better scream it. Can you imagine them singing lyrics like this. Straight up Richard Cheese lol

She starts her new diet of liquor and dick
Just like Hollywood but laced in sick
The sun goes down and so does she
The sun goes down and so does she

"reactivation" and "recontextualization" makes me think they are frankensteining all the songs to sound like 2020s bmth... lots of clean vox, simplified riffs, slower tempos etc

I wonder if they told Slater to wash his dick on this one

Either reinterpretation to make the tracks more mild, or they might just get some guests in to cover the deathier vocals if Oli can't deliver.

Rolo Tomassi in 'support' of BMTH

not sure whether to laugh or cry

also i think the shitty production is totally part of the appeal of any myspace deathcore album... like nobody wants to hear these songs quantized to death like bmth's newer stuff lmao

taking gf's little bro to bmth as his christmas present and i'd pay double to see rolo open for them instead of these other bands hahaha

“Rolo Tomassi in 'support' of BMTH

not sure whether to laugh or cry”

amazing bands opening for mid bands is a tale as old as time

I would be in the pit for all bands if I attended

[2]
Genuinely looks like a killer time

I can't wait to hear how bad this is. I've been a certified hater of this band for almost 20 years and now they want to piss on the one album I like to rub it in lol.

Curtis Ward's new band is opening for the live show. Pretty much nailed on he'll be brought out for BMTH's set. Would be interested to know if he was involved in the re-recording too.

"Can Oli's voice even handle screaming anymore?"

Credit where it's due, from what I've seen in all recent footage he's taken his vocal health and performance pretty seriously for awhile. He's never going to be amazing or anything but I think he's plenty capable of delivering a solid performance with healthy technique. It will be interesting to hear him go all-in for an entire album.

I mean if they can pull it off ill be impressed but i highly doubt this will be any good. Nor reawken my teenage love for this band, as its a band ive grown to despise as ive gotten older

I second the vocal concerns, I remember back in the day that was the leading reason to leave screaming behind for them. Guess we'll see, my expectations couldn't be much lower.

I got tickets for the gig let's fuccckinnnggg gggooooooooooooo

Man, I loved Count Your Blessings as an angsty teen. I don't think it aged well, but I think this is a pretty cool way to celebrate the 20 year anniversary. I'm sure he'll do one all out show and do it decently.

I'm hoping the re-recording breathes some new life and switches things up a bit. Otherwise they might as well just get it mixed again with new production.

Is this album comparable to Sempiternal?

the og? no it's a full on deathcore album that's super melodic. that's why this is so puzzling lol.

Damn, that's a bummer.

LOL.

Meh.

How inauthentic. Why not just write a new record of deathcore? If you’re gonna go for it, go for it 100%, none of this half assed shit.

They couldn’t write a good one now if they wanted to, give them credit for some self awareness











Wait

"Why not just write a new record of deathcore? If you’re gonna go for it, go for it 100%, none of this half assed shit."

This would be a lot cooler.

As a fan of old and new bmth though, I'm not sure why there is so much opposition to them taking a swing at revisiting their debut sound.

because it’s going to sound like post human which is absolutely awful and not deathcore

If you don't like post human, you weren't going to enjoy whatever their next release was anyway and can listen to the OG CYB. The newer fans of the post human sound may have a way to appreciate CYB tracks too. win-win.

not really true, the new album is the only thing they've made that i truly hated. fine if you like that direction but you can't pretend it's universally loved. i have a right to clown on it lol

I assumed that you meant the last two albums since both are post human. No one is pretending either are universally loved, but they certainly have a massive fanbase.

I'm just surprised by the pushback on them re-recording an old album. Additional bonus/effort compared to the 100s of bands holding anniversary tours.

tbf it's a trend i truly despise and that's a me thing. i don't get it at all. like larkin said above, why not take a stab at actually trying to make something new in that vein now? i'd respect that. this is just another money grab from a band who loves money grabs.

and they have a clear split in the fanbase, not really surprising that people will take issue with a most likely popified take on a classic deathcore album.

yeah fair enough, we couldn't have more opposite thoughts on this. I don't mind the anniversary tours or re-treads of bands past work much. I love seeing my favorite albums played live in full. I happen to not be in the split fanbase, like most of their stuff, so I think it'll be neat hearing whatever they do with CYB.

And I’m the pussy centrist in this discussion. I think when a band that hasn’t been putting out anything but hot trash for a while does it, then it’s cheap. But if it’s a consistently good band putting out a re release of an old school album then that’s when it’s chill to me.

The former is Underoath, the They’re Only Chasing Safety anniversary tour was clearly a nostalgia bait thing because they know nobody gives a fuck about their new material, where with Converge doing a redux of You Fail Me just seemed like a genuine stab at improving the thing. I know neither is a re-recording but they’re the only two bands I’m familiar enough with and can think of off the dome.

Idk, as somebody that doesn’t really care about this band one way or another, I’m kinda curious to see what 40 year old BMTH will do remaking a fkn deathcore record lol

see now there is a good comparison.

imagine tomorrow underoath announces they are re-recording define the great line. people would be furious and riot!

they could just not listen! it's not as though the source material suddenly vanishes

don't like it don't listen is the most losing argument ever lol

and like it or not bad albums effect the perception of bands. ask metallica.

overreacting to a re recording of an album that was already panned upon it's release is just kind of a silly to begin with. dont like it dont listen is a bad faith argument for a contentious new release but this 1. is a re recording 2. is not out yet. bad albums do affect a band's perception just like this album did 20 years ago and their last 3 releases. idk just feels like it would be very easy to ignore this and move on. im kind of surprised this has garnered so much attention.

well you ain't in deathcore circles haha. you don't have to agree, but it's viewed as a classic and staple of the genre. it was an important album to a lot of people. that's why there is a lot of discourse. and i am absolutely going to give this a fair shot, i just don't have a lot of faith. i hope i'm wrong, i am a fan of this band!

right so how does re recording an album change one's perception of the source material? i don't hate star wars IV just because episode VII is a horrible no good rip off-or because lucas later tampered with it. sure i dont run in those circles anymore but suicide season was one of the reasons i joined the site(count you blessings to a lesser extent). i guess the perception of those albums has taken a 180 because the scorn you took for enjoying them-especially upon release-was unreal. though there's a reason im an unc now as i've been out of the game for a long time

it doesn't, i'm just partaking in discussion on a music forum

this is in fact a music site after all

My unc and I remember getting bashed for being CYB and SS enjoyers back in the day

I'm most excited to hear a new version of Fifteen Fathoms and Counting

“ this is in fact a music site after all”

What?? I thought it was Soviet era propaganda!

" I know neither is a re-recording but they’re the only two bands I’m familiar enough with and can think of off the dome."

ABR and Thrice did it recently. Thrill Seeker was great but Artist and the Ambulance was pretty middling to me. And Underoath can at least still perform their classic material as well as ever, but there's a lot of doubt that this band can.

I should clarify, Thrice's just didn't really justify its existence for me, not like they ruined it.

Touche Amore did it and its SIGNIFICANTLY weaker imo

"My unc and I remember getting bashed for being CYB and SS enjoyers back in the day"

i was too pussy to get in the trenches back then lol. back when liking that kinda stuff got you called slurs on here!

But I see what they were going for

Times really be changing unc

People always called me a Nazi for being an SS enjoyer. What’s up with that?

https://www.sputnikmusic.com/user/fourthdyke

rip

My brother used that account quite a bit. If I recall correctly the password is like Jeffgordon or something like that lol.

"People always called me a Nazi for being an SS enjoyer. What’s up with that?"

The answer just hit me like a lightning bolt

hilarious

I think I’m in the 1% of people excited for this 😂

The thing is, while we all know Oli can’t scream anymore, they can do whatever the hell they want in a studio these days. So even if it’s doctored like a mf, it could sound awesome lol

Myspace core still causing just as much fuss as it did back in 2006. Gotta love it.

'it was an important album to a lot of people' [2]

It was the album that got me into Deathcore and subsequently death metal when I was a wee lad and I think it's pretty heavily underrated by the general metalhead populace.

Guess Oli can handle it, also can't wait for the [¿]new[?] track.
also
lol cuz they have "i miss the old bmth" shirts now in their store

"but Artist and the Ambulance was pretty middling to me"

Dude what??? The Artist re-recording sounds stellar. I think Thrice has got significantly better over the years, so it was great hearing them perform that whole classic album.

"Touche Amore did it and its SIGNIFICANTLY weaker imo ... I see what they were going for"

I like the new versions, but they didn't even do the full album and its essentially like an 'acoustic' release in a way.

"i was too pussy to get in the trenches back then lol. back when liking that kinda stuff got you called slurs on here!"

I doubt I was very vocal publicly about enjoying them if I am being honest lol

No I meant Dead Horse X, that’s an actual re recording… but it is funny that they’ve done it twice now lol

I was way more in the Suicide Season camp but I’m absolutely going to force myself into this.

Seeing how many people are complaining about it really brings me back to a simpler time :’]

@wild totally forgot about dead horse X lol