>no I Wanted To Tell Her
it's over

Cool.

so useless

poggies!

"so useless"

this is probably the one worth-while thing left the band can do.

It's more or less confirmed to be their penultimate release for this current retirement cycle. In 2026 they're gonna release their latest final ever album with Paul Barker back in the band.

This has to be just for money. I know Al hates this album with his entire being. Not sure how I feel about this but Revenge is a banger

Twitch rules and With Sympathy is boring, why would you wanna mix them

I never got into Twitch that much but With Sympathy had some bangers.

"In 2026 they're gonna release their latest final ever album with Paul Barker"

ok I was wrong this was the last worth-while thing they can do. still probably won't be anything special


probably a mix of for the money and I think Al looks at those releases a little differently now. Probably still not his favorite but he doesn't talk like he wants to take a flamethrower to the masters anymore.

Anyone I know personally who likes Ministry for some reason loves With Sympathy, so there's definitely some cult following there

a cult following?? Damn you are harsh. I don't know what changed (other than financial issues) but Al despised that record. That he wants to go out on it is pretty funny but Ministry has sucked for a while now so who cares

Band is beyond cringe. Especially the weird communist singer

Their early stuff is great, but I feel exhausted after listening to just the first album of the Bush trilogy. Also the fact they made a straight-faced environmental song called Just Stop Oil is baffling to me.

as cringe as the Bush Trilogy was, I'm not gonna lie... it kind of fucking ruled. Some bangers on those

I don’t think ‘cult following’ is always negative / derogatory when referring to pop culture

Just because Al is Cuban doesn't mean he's communist ffs

Even if so, better than the fascist filth we have in office… This blows goats.

'I don’t think ‘cult following’ is always negative / derogatory when referring to pop culture'

It's usually a positive appraisal yes

Al made peace with With Sympathy while making Surgical Meth Machine and "I'm Invisible" was the result.

Coincidentally it was around the same time he moved to California and got a medicinal marijuana card. He's always seemed somewhat fond of Every Day is Halloween though as he's reworked that several times, including in 2010.

“ Just because Al is Cuban doesn't mean he's communist ffs”

I had no idea what his nationality was. I based my conclusion on the crazy leftist shit he says. You combine that philosophy with the terrible music and it’s worst case scenario for him

just because Al is a leftist doesn't mean hes a communist lmfao thats like calling all right-leaning people nazi's or smth. Last I checked Al had some pretty basic leftwing ideas but they were pretty agreeable with my personal worldview. No marx or lenin worship to be seen.

"This has to be just for money. I know Al hates this album with his entire being. Not sure how I feel about this but Revenge is a banger"

you are not informed about the current Al Jorgensen lore it seems. the album redeemed itself in his eyes after seeing another band cover songs from it in a live setting. he saw the genius in that album now. good for him, its one of my favorite ministry albums aswell.

Why do you even open your mouth if you haven’t put any thought into it to what you’re saying? Modern leftism is more government control, social “equity”, censorship, anti-gun, no nation borders, etc. It IS communism under a different name as to confuse people such as yourself that won’t think critically so you’ll fall for it.

you're describing neo-liberalism right now. the leftists i know in the US are definitely not anti gun and have no delusions about the necessity of national borders in our current world.

this is a music website

rightoids always feel like they have to inject politics into anything.

Ignore him. He's an idiot.

I’m libertarian minded - not “right” at all. Yes ignore the idiot who points out your obvious mental shortcomings. I can see why you like Ministry!

More like absent minded

"you are not informed about the current Al Jorgensen lore it seems. the album redeemed itself in his eyes"

I stopped paying attention to him after Last Sucker but thanks for the info, I didn't know that.

i like a lot of their modern albums about as much as their 80s output tbh. 00s to today stuff is falsely maligned imo, there are a lot of bops on almost any of their albums (except for beer). the 90s and early 00s is where they peaked though with Filth Pig and Animositisomina.

they never made anything truly incredible after Animositisomina but Rio Grande Blood had some serious rippers at least

"Jesus built my car
It's a love affair".
Car crashed.
Now it's a cash affair.

yeah, fuck it

American leftism = European/Canadian/Asian/African/South American centrism

Also real libertarianism is basically anarcho-communism if you ask the guy who coined the term.

American libertarians, in keeping with their nature of cultural appropriation, stole the word to make it right wing.

truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue

cringe political takes in a Ministry thread, check

very unnecessary but maybe something fun will come out of this project

"this is probably the one worth-while thing left the band can do." [2]

Someone used the expression "cultural appropriation" in this thread.

and you are triggered by that?

"this is probably the one worth-while thing left the band can do." [3]

@Flugmorph
"Just because Al is a leftist doesn't mean he's a communist that's like calling all right-leaning people nazi's or something."
Nazis were left-wing as well. National socialism.

mhm and North Korea is a democratic state since they named themselves Democratic People's Republic of Korea. god you are stupid man.

I wish you hadn't insulted me. I don't know how to answer you now because it's not a topic that is worth harshly arguing over.

Oh no, spicy discourse in a Ministry thread

OH MY GOD SOMEONE ACTUALLY CLAIMED THE NAZIS WERE SOCIALIST UNIRONICALLY

OK time to put my MA in political theory to good use: The Nazis were far right an deliberately used "socialism" in their name to throw people off their extremist ideology.