The image of Laiho kissing a bottle of beer in chaos ridden years will haunt me

Gotta quit drinking

gotta quit drinking (among other things) [2]

Thank God I don't drink alcohol

Sad, but not surprised. Alcohol is absolutely poison. Just because it is normalized by society, that does not make it a good thing. I quit drinking at the beginning of December. Prior to that I was chugging Vodka every night because of a few shitty excuses: boredom, lockdown, felt nice, made me fall asleep, stress reliever. I had constant stomach aches and began to really rely on it during my daily routine.

Finally had enough, and just fucking stopped. The first week or so I really craved my nightly glass of vodka on ice, but it got easy fast to realize 1: how better I felt overall and 2: how much energy and motivation I had to do more productive things.

@narcho, ian - you guys can do it! The world truly is better without that shit.

Addiction sucks. I know from experience how bad it can be. It is tremendously difficult to stop when you get that deep into it. My heart goes out to everybody dealing with alcohol or any other substance abuse issues. Alcohol is no fucking joke man. You become a slave to the bottle. It's no life.

"According to the release, Laiho had suffered from long-term health problems in recent years. Laiho's health and risky lifestyle made headlines numerous times in the 2010s. Laiho's health went a long way and he was hospitalized several times."

^^^wut?

way too young.

I haven't had a drink in about 8 months. Didn't have a problem, but it feels good.

Good on you starboy, I hope you continue making progress toward your goals, its so encouraging seeing someone better themselves and get out of the traps of addiction.

This one still stings; way too fucking young and so much more to give. So glad I don't have the taste for alcohol my father and grandfather used to; shit is destructive.

it's time to cancel drinking

Was taken way too young. R.I.P Alexi

gotta quit drinking [3]

I have a can of beer or two every few days to help me relax. Moderation is key.

yeah, that's the problem with alcoholics though, moderation is damn near impossible. i struggle with it and i'm trying to moderate but starting to realize if i have one drink, it's going to turn into many

it's definitely poison and only causes more problems. RIP

twlichty just hit the nail on the head. Recently I've made a point to stop drinking altogether because I've realized that there's never gonna be a middle ground for me. Either I'm gonna be completely sobered up, or completely wasted... I can't just have one or two beers

I drink most days but I've always been able to just pick up the habit and drop it whenever I want really. Never been one for getting drunk tbh nowadays, just like to enjoy a couple after work.

I am very lucky tbh, I don't have an addictive personality really. Can pick things up and drop them at will.

This sucks though, it's horrible that the support is out there but people feel they can't reach out.

Laiho probably had a great life with little regrets. Sad for his friends and family, but things come at a price.

"I can't just have one or two beers"
Same here. It's all or nothing. Better to stop overall.

Sober since 10-01-2016.

proud of you!!!

also moderation who?

RIP to the man. Know a few people who've went out this way and I'm happy I don't drink like I used to. Not full blown sober but since concerts have stopped my drinking is damn near at a halt save for a random day with a wee bit of the whiskey

Good on Kimberley for making this public, naming the demon, and hopefully just reaching a few folks out there.

"Please do not surround yourself with enablers who promote your addictions."

Seems like some shots were fired too.

Sucks. Thankfully alcohol is not a vice that runs in my family. I think I've had one beer in the last 4-5 months.

Also, proud of everyone here either sobering up or already on your way.

its strange how it seems that people suffer more when they stop drinking, like if they were abusing alcohol, then stop, they suffer health issues and die, but it never happens when they're drunk still. This also happened to Peter Steele from Type O Negative, got sober, then died.

I guess it makes sense but the real harsh truth of it is it's almost like it was better if they just kept drinking because they were fucked either way.

btw I was told by a guy from Finand that the press there were actually criticizing Laiho after he died which seems shitty

And one more thing his albums were better when he was drinking less in his earlier years, the ''party'' time albums like Are You Dead Yet were not as good as the previous ones.

Alcoholism is no fucking joke. I had a friend dying in it and he was even younger than Alexi.

Tragic. Sending love to all of you struggling and trying to quit the lifestyle. I will not drink with you today.

Now L-G Petrov gone.

rip petrov

oh what the fuck I was just listening to left hand path yesterday

multiple pills and a full night's worth of drinking later, i really need to stop drinking among everything else [2] gonna try and see how long i can stay sober today n work on not dying lol

sorry to say for anyone here who struggles with alcoholism but when you get sober after drinking for a long time, it really really sucks and you don't start feeling any better for like anywhere from 6 months to a year after. you will feel terrible. even though its the right path, you have to just endure it. but don't let anybody bullshit you that its great to be sober, it isn't at least not when you first start out it isn't.

I’ve been beating my alcoholism by gradually drinking less and less with each successive week. 2020 was when I was at my worst, as I was downing at least 4 liquor bottles a week - and keep in mind that I was (and still am) in the Navy, so I had to come to work groggy and feeling like dogshit the next day. This year I finally kicked my habit of drinking on week days and am only binging on the weekends. And I’m hoping to gradually ease myself out of that habit too. Honestly, getting back into exercising has helped a ton with my mindset these days

I joke around with one of my friends that they’re an alcoholic. He usually has a can of beer a night. Sometimes some bourbon on top of that. I know that’s not really extreme. But sometimes I wonder how easy it could be for them to just keep going.

"I joke around with one of my friends that they’re an alcoholic. He usually has a can of beer a night. Sometimes some bourbon on top of that. I know that’s not really extreme. But sometimes I wonder how easy it could be for them to just keep going"

Really fucking easy

My former roommate was a friend from work. He rented a room from me for about two years. Whenever we went out he was a drinker, but it carried over at home a lot. There was a handle of Evan Williams, sometimes two, in the recycling bin every week. It gradually came to a head when first he had a seizure on the bus and woke up in the hospital. Later had a seizure at work and carried out by ambo then too.

It's no joke. He always thinks he has it under control, but he truly doesn't and never has. Some people just cannot moderate, and the quicker they figure out that it's a black and white situation for them, the quicker they can help themselves.

Tapering is what its called Divergent
and I'm happy for you. Alcohol is a fucking poison but its a damn good one.

I like to think he has the self awareness to stop if he needed to. But yeah

This is an unpleasant reminder. Thank you all.

Alexi Laiho [covers] Cause of Death? Would be interesting to hear

I mean I don't think anyone is surprised by this. I remember an interview he did saying that him and the band would be so sick from drinking that they couldn't stomach it the next morning when they were trying to drink again, so they would chase the whiskey with pepto bismal to keep it down lol. Sad though, he was such a talented guitarist.

"it's time to cancel drinking"

cancel culture has gone too damn far

I remember reading Sinergy interviews with Kimberly Goss in the early '00s, and she mentioned at some point that Alexi was drinking a lot...

Oh well... Stay off the bottle, stay clean folks!

Alcohol and Drugs are the only things worth canceling tbqh

alcohol bad, water wet, more at 10

drinking is for chum

I mean there's nothing wrong with drinking, just not at the level he was. You have to work pretty hard to get cirrosis that young. I'm surprised he was able to play some of that stuff live when I saw them. I mean he had to have been plastered. There's no way you could play that shit while going through alcohol withdrawal

I think I read a thing where someone said, "they've never seen anyone play so drunk and so flawlessly at the same time"

But if you drink your face off a lot, your tolerance can get ridiculously high and you have to drink a shitload just to function normally

Your liver doesn't gain tolerance though

"Alcohol and Drugs are the only things worth canceling tbqh"

Child Molestors

also young sheldon am i right fellas

In one of the behind the scenes things for when they were recording AYDY, they're interviewing the bassist and alexi is facedown passed out drunk on the floor, and hes just like "yeah this is everyday". he was like 25 when they were recording that IIRC. Sad.

Cancelling alcohol would be cool to witness tho

didn't they tried that during the prohibition tho? just curious cause i feel that unless a societal and cultural shift happens it wont really work out, though, as someone who struggled with drug dependency, my heart goes out to anyone who really needs help, alcohol withdrawal is one of the most dangerous things out there.

"Alcohol and Drugs are the only things worth canceling tbqh"
Being drunk is so much fun though.

id like to speak to the CEO of alcoholism

Drinking feels incredible but I mean that's the danger of it
My dad himself is a raging alcoholic. It takes him 7 or 8 cans of Busch just so his body doesn't go into a full blown seizure.
Some people can pick up drinking for weeks and kick it fine. Some people go a single weekend binge and then can never again stop. It is the rather unfortunate way of the world.
Honestly I wish anyone trying to kick it the best of luck, sobering up is a painful process but the mind is powerful. It all takes willpower and plenty of it. RIP Alexi and I believe in all of you.

I’m just glad that I started as late as early-mid 2019 so I didn’t go too far down the rabbit hole that it was unsalvagable. And now that I’m finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, I’m feeling pretty good. I went for a 3-mile run the other day, and it was on a day that I was considering drinking instead... glad I made the right choice

I’m not some AA guy or anything but You def did. Congrats.
It’s rough man. Drinking is the easy option until it isn’t. I feel like I’ve wasted years of my life just being plastered all the time.

Moderation is key. I have a couple double shots every night before bed, but you have to know when to cut it off. I also workout 5 days a week. Just pay attention to how it makes you feel

When you live life with little restraint then your body pays the price. Freaks of nature like Lemmy, Ozzy & so are the rarities who live into the 70s with such relentless habits. I'm sure he lived life hard, did what he wanted and had little regret when doing so, sad but he lived what was probably his best life at the time.

It's relatable, I'm only 28, but I found myself on the slippery slope. I run a business and sometimes the stress was so high that I was drinking at work. On Untappd I racked up over different 1,600 beers in a year, that is without having the same beer twice. In total including double ups I probably drank 3,000 beers last year, and I also drink Bourbon & Scotch. The types of beer I've been buying - many pint cans over 8% ABV. That is insane, and it was no wonder when I got a reality shock this year when my doctor told me my liver function was quite a fair bit down, had a fatty liver and at risk for cancer. My dad was an intense alcoholic, I'd see him down 2 litres of Jack a day, he came close to dying from severe liver cirrhosis, went to AA, and everything. Yet here was me getting on the grog every day, drinking a good 20 standard drinks per day and thinking gee golly I haven't got a problem because I never really feel very drunk at all.

Since then I still drink, but I've managed to hold it back to only on Friday night, Saturday's and a beer or two with lunch on the Sunday. My habit went from 50+ beers a week to about 10 per week, and that is still pretty unhealthy. That's held for 2 months or so now. I doubt I will ever stop fully, the willpower has to be in moderation personally. I've been lifting recently, and I feel a lot better. It's a long road, but I've already lost around 15 kg from my out of control peak of around 115kg (253lb)

Also I wonder what kind of effect Roope had, I know he's a relentless grog hound, always on the piss so I can't imagine him having been a great help while he was in the band.

yeah exercise is really a good key to keeping yourself not only more occupied but helping you feel better as a result

that being said, ive been slipping kind of recently and been drinking a few pints of ~8% beers a night, but i used to drink 100% (before opening the seal and it absorbs water from the air ofc) pure lab grade ethanol with soda every minute of every day when i wasnt sleeping for most of 2019-2020 and if not that, a bottle of vodka or makers mark/jim beam instead so it's at least not that bad anymore lol.

though instead of trying to compensate for my tolerance of my prescription medications by drinking more, i need to find a way where i can function actively and happily at peace with myself without using myself as a human chemistry set in any way.

gonna have another pint after this one because i can't undo what's already been done tonight but you best believe that i'm gonna set 3 alarms to go outside and run or walk around my apartment complex because that helps me from taking anything or drinking in the day a loooot personally

“I think I read a thing where someone said, "they've never seen anyone play so drunk and so flawlessly at the same time"”

Watch a pro shot live vid on youtube, his playing is really bad and that is me putting it lightly out of respect for the dead.

Wow you guys are making me feel better about my drinking habits and I don’t even mean those of you that admit to having a problem. I’m very fortunate in that I used to have a serious issue, but rather than packing it in completely a gradual change in circumstances meant I ‘needed’ it less and less. I thought lockdown would cause a regression, yet although I am having the odd beer/glass of wine etc. I’m actually drinking less than before it started due to the pub not being an option.

Sad story. I don’t know anything about this guy or his plight, I just wanted to say that I hope all of you that are struggling (and still have a way out) end up find a resolution.

It is kind of interesting that folks in the rock/metal world like Lemmy seemed to do whatever he wanted and nothing happened to him. While others have a much shorter time period of having ''fun'' before it ruins them. It caught up with Lemmy I guess, but I mean the guy was 70 years old by that time.

Lemmy should’ve died thirty years ago. Ofc I’m glad he stuck around as long as he did but he was a severe alcoholic.
I remember reading something Alice Cooper said that he quit drinking but in reality he just stopped getting smashed all day and was *only* having 6-8 drinks a night

I only stick to beer, and though I use to be a heavy beer drinker (6 pack of tall boys every night on weekdays and 18+ a night on weekends I am finally (mostly) at a point of fri - sun drinking... it still sucks and I want to improve even more but I gotta keep telling myself I got this and it is a work in progress. My stomach tends to hurt and sleep sucks but I am running to distract and trying to look on the bright side... keep up the good fight everyone.

Highly recommend seeing a doctor if you can afford it. Detoxing sucks and it’s even worse on your own.

rip.

"Lemmy should’ve died thirty years ago. Ofc I’m glad he stuck around as long as he did but he was a severe alcoholic.
I remember reading something Alice Cooper said that he quit drinking but in reality he just stopped getting smashed all day and was *only* having 6-8 drinks a night"

I really love Cooper's story though, because once he actually DID quit, he became something of a godfather and mentor for other musicians who wanted to quit and stay sober. He's a really inspiring figure when it comes to all that, and - despite the shocking theatrics - from what I understand, he's a really nice person. My mom actually met him once when she was working in retail (before I was ever born) and apparently he was one of the kindest celebs she ever met

Also, I just realized how many lies I told in this thread alone about my drinking. God I fucking hate addiction

iirc I actually saw a story where Rex Brown of Pantera was cracking jokes with Alice Cooper about how great drinking was
Then once all the band mates left he pulled him aside and sheepishly said "...so how'd you do it"
Pretty sure he's been sober since then

On another note
I'm glad as fuck I do not drink as much as I want to
I drink a beer or two most days and usually only get buzzed off liquor maybe once or twice a week. i.e a glass or two of whiskey. Still feels like a little much but I think i'm content at this level.

It's easy to get into drinking too much. Especially if you have ADHD/anxiety for example, because it literally calms you down initially. But people have all kinds of reason for drinking, it isn't always bc of mental illness, some people just have shitty lives too, or like issues that can't be resolved so they drink to numb out from all that shit.

Also remember once you start drinking like an alcoholic, you sort of ''have'' to keep drinking to maintain, you feel terrible when sober.

Well, that's the thing. I drink like 300-400 ml of vodka per night basically, and I can easily go on holiday with family for two weeks and not drink at all to maintain my sober image. Then I get back home and it's the same song & dance. I just enjoy its effects and my hangovers are basically non-existent. Maybe the fact I handle it so well at the moment is because I literally didn't touch alcohol till 25. Then a guy came around and introduced me, all in good nature, but still yeah.

I'm 30 now and know that shit will come back to haunt me later in life, so I am making a honest effort to start lessening my intake and maybe kick it altogether.

Koris, how are you doing now?