*insert discomfort here

Hype af

So is this album all about how Tim feels bad for trying to get his wife killed?

Obviously...

Looking forward to it.

Shaped By Fire? As In "I'm probz going to hell"?

The Troll Toll it Takes

probably gonna be boring like Awakened.

yeah honestly that's the real travesty here

is this band still Christian

the real question here.

Fuck this band

I hope this will still be better than new KSE.

That album title is hilarious and I'm almost shocked that they would be allowed to title it that.

That insta-1 is coming, boys.

Undoubtedly will be trash. Band haven't done anything worthwhile since The Powerless Rise.

cannot believe that anybody on this planet would continue to support lambesis. how sick of a fuck do you have to be?

how sick of a fuck do you have to support ian watkins or jesse lacey? I mean, c'mon. Pirate that shit.

Both singles were good. I figure if the people closest to him are willing to give him a chance to be a better person after serving his time, they probably know how genuine he is better than i do.

"how sick of a fuck do you have to support ian watkins or jesse lacey? I mean, c'mon. Pirate that shit."

you just compared a guy who raped an infant to a guy who had an inappropriate relationship with a 16 or 17 year old back when he was like 23? one of those things is bad, the other is incomprehensible. I'll let you figure out which is which.

I never said they were on the same level though.

oh and we can safely label "payed someone to kill his wife" under the incomprehensible category

And having sex with underage girls isn't? Lolwut

still, bringing Lacey into a conversation about Ian Watkins or Tim Lambesis is totally disingenuous

No, it isn't. They've all done fucking disgusting things.

Why are people still questioning his character? Get over it.

As for the music, well, metalcore should've been shelved a long time ago.

Shaped by fire would be closer to a metaphor for purgatory. The cleansing/purging of sins through punishment that is, metaphorically, fire.

bruh he solicited nudes when they were underage. There's literally no allegation that he banged an underage girl

He indirectly confessed to it pretty much. Even if he didn't do it, if I found out my 15 year old daughter was sex-skyping an adult man, I'd shoot the fucker in the balls. Fuck that cunt, hope he gets what he deserves, fucking piece of shit human being.

Holy shit this thing has 12 songs? So half of them will be nearly identical?

"hope he gets what he deserves" yeah his career is 100% done for and he can never be back in the public spotlight without garnering death threats again, I'd say that's a punishment.

And again - sex skyping compared to attempted murder? there's noooo comparison. there is none.

btw, I'm not defending anyone. Everybody who does fucked up things should get what they deserve. Just trying to make it clear that these acts are absolutely nowhere near the same level

I think you can safely say that Jesse and Tim have both done horrible things and deserve to be punished while still thinking one did more horrible things than the other

anyway yeah no interest in this band but I'm amused that they're almost ripping off a Living Sacrifice album title for this one

i may be a bit interested in this (pirating it at least) if he wasn't leaning so heavily into this really forced-feeling redemption narrative he's trying to push. it's like we get it dude, you tried to kill your wife, please stop making all your songs about digging your own grave, and then rising from ashes, to then be "shaped by fire". WE GET IT.

Lol

yeah it's cheesy and trite as fuck

I dont get it, he got thrown in jail and did his time and he is not allowed to move forward why? isnt that the whole point of it? re insertion and rehabilitation?

i have no problem with him moving on, but i think it's in poor taste for him to exploit his whole experience for monetary gain when he was the guilty party... idk, i really fw "my own grave" but lyrically it sounds like a way for him to garner sympathy which he doesn't need or deserve ... based on the title of the album/tracks so far (and i could be wrong) it seems like there will be a lot of that featuring on this

Excited as fuck for this one. The two new songs smashed. Track titles are AILD as fuck too haha

"Shaped By Fire"

aka "THE ADVERSITY IVE FACED FOR BEING A PIECE OF SHIT HAS MADE ME LESS OF A PIECE OF SHIT"

"i have no problem with him moving on, but i think it's in poor taste for him to exploit his whole experience for monetary gain when he was the guilty party"

Essentially the heart of it. He should be spending the rest of his life giving back, not putting himself back on his fucking platform. And I certainly have no interest in hearing his diluted perspective over his wife's.

yeah exactly, the lyrics here will all mean absolutely nothing to me. when you try to have the mother of your children killed for no good reason, your perspective loses a lot of weight/credibility imo.

'So is this album all about how Tim feels bad for trying to get his wife killed?'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15HTd4Um1m4

"you tried to kill your wife, please stop making all your songs about digging your own grave, and then rising from ashes, to then be "shaped by fire".

^ well put :]

guess I'll check this out tho

How are you guys not tired of talking about this shit yet?

I'm hyped for this. My Own Grave rules and Redefined was solid.

Im probably going to one of those shows.

shoot the fucker in the balls [2]

There is no lyrical narrative he could have pushed that y'all wouldn't have shat on anyway. This one's as good as any.

There is no lyrical narrative he could have pushed that y'all wouldn't have shat on anyway.

[2]

Sput. Shitting on everything since '06.

Wouldn't it be crazy if it was reversed. What they shat on now they loved and vice versa

If Tit Lambesis can be forgiven in like 3-4 years for trying to have his wife murdered Jesse Lacey can be forgiven in like 30 minutes for being born on the wrong side of the Atlantic.

Lol here we go.

Tim Lambesis should be able to move on with his life but umm returning to his old band - the money and platform that provides is uuuhh not what i'd call moving on. I for one would rather listen to anyone else do average screams than someone who tried to have his wife killed. Why they didn't just replace him and continue as As I Lay Dying is fucking beyond me.

$$$

And bros before hoes.

And $$$

F'real. That fucking video they put out last year was so cringe.

"yeah exactly, the lyrics here will all mean absolutely nothing to me. when you try to have the mother of your children killed for no good reason, your perspective loses a lot of weight/credibility imo"

I would never look for thrilling lyricism in any AILD album but ok.

Also, yeah I agree with him choosing to give back but i dont see how that would change peoples perception of him, if anything they would call him out for hypocrisy

Band fell off when they stopped imitating Zao tbh

Honestly I've never compared the two.

Musically I mean, obviously the attempted murder thing was another kind of falling off point lol

I mean, jesus, but otherwise...

Ghost have you heard Beneath the Encasing of Ashes

“There is no lyrical narrative he could have pushed that y'all wouldn't have shat on anyway.”

Yeah because he’s a fucking tool lmao it’s just really some pussy shit he’s doing this generic posi-core lyricism now lol

"Band fell off when they stopped imitating Zao tbh"

Didn't they get better after that?

Maybe if you like bad melodeath-inspired metalcore

I have heard parts of Frail Words Collapse enough to warn me away from anything pre-Shadows.

Squeak, I would rather have Jared Fogle watch my 8-year-old daughter than listen to this album. Who the fuck will buy this album?

More like Jared Fagle.

"Who the fuck will buy this album?"

a shit load of people.

?

Can men be spiritual?

Isn't that an exclusively chick designation?

You ever see a megachurch pastor? Those dudes ball tf out.

Look up that pastor kicks Instagram.

https://www.instagram.com/preachersnsneakers/

Well the bible does teach forgiveness, even for those who committed heinous acts. Maybe it is spiritual of them to forgive him.

People are fucking stupid...

Jesus cancels people.

Saw Tim walking outside The Ghost Inside show last week. He was with this big titty Brazilian looking girl. I wonder if she knows..

How do you look Brazilian? That's like saying someone looks American.

"He was with this big titty Brazilian looking girl. I wonder if she knows.."

probably his wife. and yeah, she's aware (obviously).

"Murder me, daddy!"

Lol someone married this fucker before he even got out the joint. She’s fine tho

she's the girlfriend he had before he legally divorced his wife, before he got arrested.

she's gotta be crazy. anyone who doesnt nope the fuck out when they learn their boyfriend tried to have his wife offed has to have something fucky going on up in their head.

Tim couldn't slay his wife but he can slay some pussy

Shits gonna slay

cum to brazil papa tim!

Generic metalcore played by a sociopath and greedy apologists. No thanks.

Wonder if any songs will be written about his traumatic experience growing man boobs.

Gross

His Brazilian got her implants from him

How generous of him.

That brings new meaning to "Shaped By Fire" and "Take What's Left"

@OldCrime lame , take your bullshit somewhere else. Crybaby.

you're the only one that comes off like they're crying bruh

AILD = instantly entertaining thread

thread reeks of ball sweat and cheetos

TheSpirit god that was lame.

I wonder what hired guns worked on the album.

@igor he's right though.

^^^^^

Adolf knows what’s up

He generally does not.

shit the bed, call-out of the year right here^ everyone go home now