That's a shit.
Everyone knows not to trust vegans.
"Oh no!!!!" (I actually don't have a fucking clue on who these rapey vegans are)
"Straight-edge vegan hardcore and rapey, yikes.
Yeah that's a hell of a description.
I guess the wolf was finally put down
how anyone did not manage to see through this band since their inception is beyond me
his statement on the situation is laughable "b-but society forces men to be rapists!"
I was hoping for some interesting controversy. Disappointed by more people being assholes to each other.
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Who are these people?
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not enough meat makes for an angry/horny vegan
oddly reminiscent of scott pilgrim but more rapey
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He was vegan for a long time, he just craved those women's meat...
they once were ve-gone, but now they will be-gone
The hell is with dudes in punk bands?
fuck this band
Wow. That statement..
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"his statement on the situation is laughable "b-but society forces men to be rapists!" "
That's nowhere close to what he said. He seemed to be saying he was a hypocrite for being against the concept of rape culture but being abusive anyway. He didn't blame society for his actions from what I'd read.
is there evidence to back up their claims or is this another "give me attention" thing? I'm not picking either side until they're proven guilty, or innocent.
"they once were ve-gone, but now they will be-gone"
"is there evidence to back up their claims or is this another "give me attention" thing? I'm not picking either side until they're proven guilty, or innocent."
Again with the "skeptical" talking point? Really? Sputnik users would defend Jimmy Savile if the topic were to come up, I swear to god.
Never heard of the band. No interest in giving them a listen, in light of the circumstances.
At first i thought the erroneous spelling of "women" was a mistake, lmao.
adolfchrist moar liek sad old [insert racist term for jews here]
"Gas the kikes" - mort
Last night, two womyn, who had been in different kinds of relationships with our guitarist Tobi, went public with accusations against him for sexual abuse and rape. We are writing this post in the knowledge, that the affected persons demand accounting from our side. Tobi had told us earlier and given his way of dealing with the accusations, we chose to let him speak:
"I met the person that holds the accusations against me, last year in February. During that time, I have to admit, that my sexual self-reflection concerning the right approach to consensual sex had not yet been brought to the same level as my otherwise radical-leftwing convictions. I feel ashamed for that. Before having sex for the first time, we hadn't talked about our own negative experiences concerning sex, we hadn't talked about our wishes and, most importantly, about our personal no-go's. I acted nonreflective and without consideration of the consequences; it never came to my mind that it was wrong to think "if something doesn't please my partner, she will let me know", that the guideline shouldn't be "no means no", but "yes means yes" and anything less is in fact a "no". And I was as stubborn as to not simply accept her not feeling well about things, but keeping on discussing with her about it. So basically, during that time I did things to her for which I didn't ask for her consent, during otherwise nonverbally consensual sex. I am not going into detail out of respect for her own privacy. However, I never noticed that she was feeling bad and I feel incredibly shortsighted not having noticed. Some time later, she told me, that she had been a victim of sexual abuse and rape in childhood and encountered rape by another man before, while she was passed out drunk. She was the first person in my life, who told me about such things from a first hand perspective, so obviously (but yet so unknowingly hypocritical) I was shocked and didn't really know how to deal with that information. With great shame, I also have to admit that I didn't realize what my own behavior had meant to her until a few weeks ago. Given the fact, that we had been a couple for months after that, until this years April, having sex, discussing politics, feminist issues and even my behavior, going on holiday together and such, has nothing to do with a slow process of her realizing, what I had done to her. I learnt, that the persons realization of what abusive behavior had meant to her, can take a long time, even years.
this is so stupid
Adolfchrist: "Lets see, coddle culture rhetoric, vegan hardcore band, self-labeled feminists...yeah, im gonna agree with sweeney here. "rape" can mean anything with uber left-wing retards like these. 'oops, i forgot to ask you before thrusting again! ill never be anything but white cis male scum...'
...it is the case, apparently
She was his girlfriend, they had sex, she was uncomfortable while doing it but didn't say anything, a couple of months afterwards she said he raped her / considers it rape. Make your own conclusions, and discuss as you please.
why on earth feel people the need to discuss this shit. nobody here knows them personally. both sides (the one who wants to crucify the accused ones and the other who questions if it was really rape etc) should shut up.especially if u are not a fan of the band/friend of the victims . there is no need/ place for an online jury. I mean this thread about an rather obscure german HxC band has alreday 30+ comments while their 2 full lenghts have combined 30 ratings...
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Yeah, this is gonna turn into a shitshow. About a band that, clearly, very few people on the site care/even know about.
As someone who was straight-edge for many, many years this band was a somewhat well-known act within that community. Even if it was mostly for Larrisa's vocals, whom I'm glad to say has moved onto greener pastures in Venom Prison (solid death metal for those who are wondering).
Regardless of your position, Tobi basically acknowledged and admitted wrongdoing in his statement (despite his cringey use of the term "womyn" which just seems like a last minute attempt to save himself). Also this band has canceled entire tours because of bands who under are very similar accusations.
These rapists are giving vegans a bad rap. Fuck them.
punk is the same tho LOL
Rapey straight-edge radical leftwing vegan sociopathic band/10.
people that deep into pseudo feminist rhetoric always incite precautions in me, it's a red flag that they're sexist, psychopathic abusers tbh
"people that deep into pseudo feminist rhetoric always incite precautions in me, it's a red flag that they're sexist, psychopathic abusers tbh"
Yeahh, and also; that statement of his was creepy as fuck.
And: What's a womyn?
god forbid someone believes a rape accusation but every time someone from a minority is brutalized or shot for no reason it's either appeal to authority or Â¯_(ãƒ„)_/Â¯
legalistic arguments are for ignorant dumbasses who have no grasp of instituionalized issues that plague a lot of systems
also: seize the memes of production o/
"And: What's a womyn?"
I assume its to take the "men" out of "women", lmao.
^ that's it
Rape is one of the worst things u can do no excuse fuck that cunt
I bet i hate rape more than you do!
These vegans are giving rapists a bad name.
"She was his girlfriend, they had sex, she was uncomfortable while doing it but didn't say anything, a couple of months afterwards she said he raped her"
Doesn't sound like rape to me. Don't have the full story, obviously, but purely based off of this description of events, that is not rape. They were dating, had been having sex, and she didn't protest in any way. In what world can what he did be considered rape? He does, however, sound like a tool. That statement is so pretentious I don't even
Rape is fucking disgusting and I wish ill on anyone that is guilty of doing it, but this doesn't really sound like it fits the bill.
"These vegans are giving rapists a bad name."
*loudly exclaims a passionate 'Ha!' with a strong wheezle on 'h' as a sign of approval for the joke*
"I assume its to take the "men" out of "women", lmao."
Oh yeah yeah, I get that part, but is that a term that Rapey straight-edge radical leftwing vegan sociopathic people use? Or is it like a regional thing, a punk thing or what?
its a feminist thing.
The irony is astounding.
the cognitive dissonance
what hansoloshotfirst and Wolfhorde said..
he said RAPE, not PEE
lol damn i assumed vegas dug both
its a feminist thing.
That makes this even cringier, the fact that the guy is supposedly super feminist.
"Rape is one of the worst things u can do"
Thanks for clearing that one up
wolfehorde on the money
Being a straight-edge vegan and raping someone seems like a bit of a contradiction. Isn't being vegan all about respecting animals? So then you turn around and treat a person like a piece of meat? :-/
Might also just be false allegations and stuff too though, so whatever.