Wolf Down break up amidst controversy

2017-07-28 by SquidPunk | 63 Comments
Straight-edge vegan hardcore group Wolf Down have recently come under controversy when guitarist Tobi has been accused of rape and sexual abuse from two women he previously dated. Adding fuel to the fire are more allegations from the band's former vocalist and current Venom Prison vocalist Larrisa who claims to have been abused by the band's drummer Sven in their 7-year relationship.

In a very lengthy statement released on Facebook from both the band and the guitarist Tobi, the band revealed that they are canceling their tour with Stray From the Path & Capsize and breaking up as a band.

The band's statement.
https://www.facebook.com/wolfdownhc/posts/1896170880427979

Larrisa's response.
http://tonedeaf.com.au/hardcore-outfit-wolf-disband-multiple-members-accused-sexual-assault/

Tagged: Wolf Down

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Aerisavion
July 28th 2017
2771 Comments


That's a shit.

Panzerchrist
July 28th 2017
496 Comments


Who

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Evreaia
July 28th 2017
5143 Comments


"Straight-edge vegan"

Everyone knows not to trust vegans.

Faraudo
July 28th 2017
3656 Comments


"Oh no!!!!" (I actually don't have a fucking clue on who these rapey vegans are)

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Faraudo
July 28th 2017
3656 Comments


"Straight-edge vegan hardcore and rapey, yikes.

Aerisavion
July 28th 2017
2771 Comments


Yeah that's a hell of a description.

TheCharmingMan
July 28th 2017
565 Comments


Awful shit.

Brewtality91
July 28th 2017
666 Comments


I guess the wolf was finally put down

owen
July 28th 2017
5146 Comments


how anyone did not manage to see through this band since their inception is beyond me

his statement on the situation is laughable "b-but society forces men to be rapists!"

Sevengill
July 28th 2017
9793 Comments


I was hoping for some interesting controversy. Disappointed by more people being assholes to each other.

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Dewinged
Contributing Reviewer
July 28th 2017
21218 Comments


Who are these people?

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ianblxdsoe
July 28th 2017
1916 Comments


lame

AaroN911
July 28th 2017
2820 Comments


not enough meat makes for an angry/horny vegan

SoakedInTorment
July 28th 2017
23 Comments


Who??????

dctarga
July 28th 2017
1746 Comments


Who? [3]

henryChinaski
July 28th 2017
4367 Comments


Who [4]

Sinternet
July 28th 2017
22998 Comments


oddly reminiscent of scott pilgrim but more rapey

Papa Universe
July 28th 2017
22505 Comments


He was vegan for a long time, he just craved those women's meat...

Kalopsia
July 28th 2017
3384 Comments


they once were ve-gone, but now they will be-gone

zaruyache
July 28th 2017
22849 Comments


The hell is with dudes in punk bands?

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OwMySnauze
July 28th 2017
2158 Comments


Wolf down.

Get it?

Get it....?!

GET IT?!?!?!?!?

Snake.
July 28th 2017
22435 Comments


ahahahahaha good

fuck this band

supremejelly
July 28th 2017
1200 Comments


Wow. That statement..

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zaruyache
July 28th 2017
22849 Comments


"his statement on the situation is laughable "b-but society forces men to be rapists!" "


That's nowhere close to what he said. He seemed to be saying he was a hypocrite for being against the concept of rape culture but being abusive anyway. He didn't blame society for his actions from what I'd read.

hobblepot
July 28th 2017
2469 Comments


is there evidence to back up their claims or is this another "give me attention" thing? I'm not picking either side until they're proven guilty, or innocent.

Deathconscious
July 28th 2017
25195 Comments


"they once were ve-gone, but now they will be-gone"

Jesus christ.

becomesmusical
July 28th 2017
87 Comments


"is there evidence to back up their claims or is this another "give me attention" thing? I'm not picking either side until they're proven guilty, or innocent."

Again with the "skeptical" talking point? Really? Sputnik users would defend Jimmy Savile if the topic were to come up, I swear to god.

Never heard of the band. No interest in giving them a listen, in light of the circumstances.

Deathconscious
July 28th 2017
25195 Comments


At first i thought the erroneous spelling of "women" was a mistake, lmao.

Sinternet
July 28th 2017
22998 Comments


adolfchrist moar liek sad old [insert racist term for jews here]

Deathconscious
July 28th 2017
25195 Comments


"Gas the kikes" - mort

Asdfp277
July 28th 2017
22980 Comments


Last night, two womyn, who had been in different kinds of relationships with our guitarist Tobi, went public with accusations against him for sexual abuse and rape. We are writing this post in the knowledge, that the affected persons demand accounting from our side. Tobi had told us earlier and given his way of dealing with the accusations, we chose to let him speak:

"I met the person that holds the accusations against me, last year in February. During that time, I have to admit, that my sexual self-reflection concerning the right approach to consensual sex had not yet been brought to the same level as my otherwise radical-leftwing convictions. I feel ashamed for that. Before having sex for the first time, we hadn't talked about our own negative experiences concerning sex, we hadn't talked about our wishes and, most importantly, about our personal no-go's. I acted nonreflective and without consideration of the consequences; it never came to my mind that it was wrong to think "if something doesn't please my partner, she will let me know", that the guideline shouldn't be "no means no", but "yes means yes" and anything less is in fact a "no". And I was as stubborn as to not simply accept her not feeling well about things, but keeping on discussing with her about it. So basically, during that time I did things to her for which I didn't ask for her consent, during otherwise nonverbally consensual sex. I am not going into detail out of respect for her own privacy. However, I never noticed that she was feeling bad and I feel incredibly shortsighted not having noticed. Some time later, she told me, that she had been a victim of sexual abuse and rape in childhood and encountered rape by another man before, while she was passed out drunk. She was the first person in my life, who told me about such things from a first hand perspective, so obviously (but yet so unknowingly hypocritical) I was shocked and didn't really know how to deal with that information. With great shame, I also have to admit that I didn't realize what my own behavior had meant to her until a few weeks ago. Given the fact, that we had been a couple for months after that, until this years April, having sex, discussing politics, feminist issues and even my behavior, going on holiday together and such, has nothing to do with a slow process of her realizing, what I had done to her. I learnt, that the persons realization of what abusive behavior had meant to her, can take a long time, even years.


this is so stupid


Asdfp277
July 28th 2017
22980 Comments


Adolfchrist: "Lets see, coddle culture rhetoric, vegan hardcore band, self-labeled feminists...yeah, im gonna agree with sweeney here. "rape" can mean anything with uber left-wing retards like these. 'oops, i forgot to ask you before thrusting again! ill never be anything but white cis male scum...'

...it is the case, apparently

Sinternet
July 28th 2017
22998 Comments


tl:dr?

Asdfp277
July 28th 2017
22980 Comments


She was his girlfriend, they had sex, she was uncomfortable while doing it but didn't say anything, a couple of months afterwards she said he raped her / considers it rape. Make your own conclusions, and discuss as you please.

hansoloshotfirst
July 28th 2017
1462 Comments


why on earth feel people the need to discuss this shit. nobody here knows them personally. both sides (the one who wants to crucify the accused ones and the other who questions if it was really rape etc) should shut up.especially if u are not a fan of the band/friend of the victims . there is no need/ place for an online jury. I mean this thread about an rather obscure german HxC band has alreday 30+ comments while their 2 full lenghts have combined 30 ratings...

DinosaurJones
July 28th 2017
10289 Comments


Yeah, this is gonna turn into a shitshow. About a band that, clearly, very few people on the site care/even know about.

SquidPunk
July 28th 2017
27 Comments


As someone who was straight-edge for many, many years this band was a somewhat well-known act within that community. Even if it was mostly for Larrisa's vocals, whom I'm glad to say has moved onto greener pastures in Venom Prison (solid death metal for those who are wondering).

Regardless of your position, Tobi basically acknowledged and admitted wrongdoing in his statement (despite his cringey use of the term "womyn" which just seems like a last minute attempt to save himself). Also this band has canceled entire tours because of bands who under are very similar accusations.

JigglyPDiddy
July 29th 2017
3721 Comments


These rapists are giving vegans a bad rap. Fuck them.

Asdfp277
July 29th 2017
22980 Comments


punk is the same tho LOL

Faraudo
July 29th 2017
3656 Comments


Rapey straight-edge radical leftwing vegan sociopathic band/10.

Asdfp277
July 29th 2017
22980 Comments


people that deep into pseudo feminist rhetoric always incite precautions in me, it's a red flag that they're sexist, psychopathic abusers tbh

Faraudo
July 29th 2017
3656 Comments


"people that deep into pseudo feminist rhetoric always incite precautions in me, it's a red flag that they're sexist, psychopathic abusers tbh"

Yeahh, and also; that statement of his was creepy as fuck.

And: What's a womyn?

Wolfhorde
July 29th 2017
15380 Comments


god forbid someone believes a rape accusation but every time someone from a minority is brutalized or shot for no reason it's either appeal to authority or ¯_(ツ)_/¯

legalistic arguments are for ignorant dumbasses who have no grasp of instituionalized issues that plague a lot of systems

Wolfhorde
July 29th 2017
15380 Comments


also: seize the memes of production o/

Deathconscious
July 29th 2017
25195 Comments


"And: What's a womyn?"

I assume its to take the "men" out of "women", lmao.

owen
July 29th 2017
5146 Comments


^ that's it

1oniondays1
July 29th 2017
35 Comments


Rape is one of the worst things u can do no excuse fuck that cunt

Deathconscious
July 29th 2017
25195 Comments


I bet i hate rape more than you do!

portableheadd
July 29th 2017
81 Comments


These vegans are giving rapists a bad name.

Durrzo
July 29th 2017
2235 Comments


"She was his girlfriend, they had sex, she was uncomfortable while doing it but didn't say anything, a couple of months afterwards she said he raped her"

Doesn't sound like rape to me. Don't have the full story, obviously, but purely based off of this description of events, that is not rape. They were dating, had been having sex, and she didn't protest in any way. In what world can what he did be considered rape? He does, however, sound like a tool. That statement is so pretentious I don't even

Rape is fucking disgusting and I wish ill on anyone that is guilty of doing it, but this doesn't really sound like it fits the bill.

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Papa Universe
July 29th 2017
22505 Comments


"These vegans are giving rapists a bad name."

*loudly exclaims a passionate 'Ha!' with a strong wheezle on 'h' as a sign of approval for the joke*

Faraudo
July 29th 2017
3656 Comments


"I assume its to take the "men" out of "women", lmao."

Oh yeah yeah, I get that part, but is that a term that Rapey straight-edge radical leftwing vegan sociopathic people use? Or is it like a regional thing, a punk thing or what?


Deathconscious
July 29th 2017
25195 Comments


its a feminist thing.

blvckbloodysludge
July 29th 2017
6 Comments


The irony is astounding.

Asdfp277
July 29th 2017
22980 Comments


the cognitive dissonance

cylinder
July 29th 2017
1470 Comments


what hansoloshotfirst and Wolfhorde said..

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KILL
July 30th 2017
81241 Comments


andcas's band?

Asdfp277
July 30th 2017
22980 Comments


he said RAPE, not PEE

KILL
July 30th 2017
81241 Comments


lol damn i assumed vegas dug both

Faraudo
July 30th 2017
3656 Comments


its a feminist thing.


That makes this even cringier, the fact that the guy is supposedly super feminist.

AngryLittleAlchemist
July 30th 2017
2001 Comments


"Rape is one of the worst things u can do"

Thanks for clearing that one up

danielito19
July 30th 2017
12241 Comments


wolfehorde on the money

Dreakon
July 30th 2017
453 Comments


Being a straight-edge vegan and raping someone seems like a bit of a contradiction. Isn't being vegan all about respecting animals? So then you turn around and treat a person like a piece of meat? :-/

Might also just be false allegations and stuff too though, so whatever.



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