that's funny......I vaguely remember listening to some song on stadium arcadium and thinking it sounded like mary jane's last dance.......but if you want a complete rip off just compare the lyrics of boulevard of broken dreams to the lyrics of here i go again by whitesnake......man green day is so unoriginal!

And Here I Go Again is such a fucking sweet song too

It's understandable if you have just hit a creative rut and you don't know what else to do...work your way through it. Don't rip off Tom Petty you bastards!

*loses some respect for RHCP, still continues listening to cd anyways*

If you hit a creative rut you shouldn't release a double-album

Wow, that sounded quiet alike. I really didnt like the radio hosts, they were very uncomlimentary about RHCP, its not like anyone would have noticed.This Message Edited On 05.27.06

Wow, they DO sound alike!

the only thing i hear are the same chords for the verse. so what? it happens. if you find a couple of chords that sound good together, chances are they've been used that way before, plenty of times.

Damn...that's insane.
I wouldn't like to think they intentionally did it, but I mean...I've written songs that were unintentionally ripped off others. I just stopped playing them, or re-wrote them.

I'm going to exude some hopeful naivety and assume it was an accident.

White Stripes already ripped off part of that song. I think its that line between 'inspiration' and 'theft' again

That's incredible...

Although to be a little fair, I think they're speeding up the Tom Petty song just a little bit. But it really doesn't matter...

Daaaamn. One of my favourite Petty songs too.

Who cares?

This isn't the first time it's happened with RHCP. Listen to Sweet Leaf by Black Sabbath and then Give It Away by RHCP, the bass line is very similar, and in the last 30 seconds John plays the exact guitar riff except tuned up.

Hmm... Well, I haven't tried that, but "Give It Away" is a much better song than "Black Sabbath". So yeah.

Hmmm... strange. It is possible to be a mistake, though. Being a guitar player myself, I'll write something and think, "That sounds cool." Then I realise WHY it sounds cool. I'll hear the same riff in a song I've heard before.

damn. speaking of plagarism, doesn't anyone else think that the beginning of the solo sounds a little like the intro to 'Purple Haze'?

If it was just the chord progression and guitar rhythm, I'd say it was a mistake but the fact that the drums/bass/vocals all match up kind of exposes the rip off.

It's a shame too; Mary Jane's Last Dance is my favorite Petty song. Oh well, at least RHCP has good taste...

damn. speaking of plagarism, doesn't anyone else think that the beginning of the solo sounds a little like the intro to 'Purple Haze'?

Heh, I just noticed that the plagarism fits in with the music video. It's RHCP ripping off all the band styles from the '50s to the present. I got a kick out of Anthony Kiedes singing in Kurt Cobain's hair during the Unplugged in New York bit.

holy shit thats like exactly. frankly im pretty goddamn dissapointed. Ready made sounds just like Mountain song by Janes addiction as already pointed out in entwistles review.

Mary Jane seems to be sped up, I remember it being slower, like not dramaticially, but just enough to get the drum beats synched.

i think they purposely did the sweet leaf thing in give it away.

Yeah, Mary Jane's sped up, but that shouldn't the change anything. It's still in the key of A, anyway.

I feel like the only one left who's willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

but if you want a complete rip off just compare the lyrics of boulevard of broken dreams to the lyrics of here i go again by whitesnake......man green day is so unoriginal!

Heh, I just noticed that the plagarism fits in with the music video. It's RHCP ripping off all the band styles from the '50s to the present.

[quote=Steerpike]I feel like the only one left who's willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.[/quote]

Hmm....

[quote=Bron-Yr-Aur]I'm going to exude some hopeful naivety and assume it was an accident.[/quote]

Right on.

I think the verses to the single Dani California sound sort of like Sweet Home Alabama, but it's probably just me.

Someone shoulda asked em to play the chorus and the harmonica and compare it to RHCP's guitars and chorus...totally different.

There's only so many chord progressions and drum beats in the world anyway, so yeah.

And flea's bass is much better, these guys said the bass sounds the same.

I give RHCP the benefit of the doubt any day of the week, this doesn't take away any of their credibility for me.

RHCP win again. So they referenced other artists, they still wrote a lot of kickass music for that album.

I am definitely willing to give these guys the benefit of the doubt, its a good song, and nobody else realised it before hand.

WOW holy crap.... I don't think RHCP are idiots now, but they should consider writing THEIR OWN MUSIC.

WOW holy crap.... I don't think RHCP are idiots now, but they should consider writing THEIR OWN MUSIC.

i agree..listen to both songs from start to finish
this is one verse taht happens to have a similiar sound....people that dont credit the RHCP arent gullible they are stupid

More proof that it should've been a single disc album.

Nah it's great as a double. The fact of the matter is that there are so many chord progressions, as some guy above stated, and it's inevitable that some are going to sound alike. This Message Edited On 05.28.06

I think dan gaffney is another one of those douche bag retards that can't accept the fact that their are talented musicians out today. Simply because he didn't grow up with it he thinks it's trash.

....but I do think RHCP ripped-off tom petty. Then again who gives a poop they've made so many songs that were not only awesome but were original. I'd be willing to let them slide on this one.
.........and just to piss off this radio asshole I'm going to buy Stadium Arcadium, and I'm especially going to enjoy Dani California

I listened to that again. The guy making the claim is full of shit. It is the same chord progression and drum beat, but the vocal melody is different, the guitar playing is different, and the bassline is way different.

Truth be told, when the guy said "This isn't as frivolous as my last claim," that's when warning bells should have gone off in everybody's head. This wanker is nothing but a self-important elitist who uses the same techniques as conspiracy theorists: anything that contradicts him, he ignores.

I think the verses to the single Dani California sound sort of like Sweet Home Alabama, but it's probably just me.

Truth be told, when the guy said "This isn't as frivolous as my last claim," that's when warning bells should have gone off in everybody's head. This wanker is nothing but a self-important elitist who uses the same techniques as conspiracy theorists: anything that contradicts him, he ignores.

Haha near the end they don't know what "plagiarism" is.

He's one of those aholes that thinks he has superior musical taste simply because he listens to classic rock.

Can you believe the asshole even sent the "evidence" to RHCP fan sites. This guy doesn't deserve to have a penis.

That's hilarious, I've always disliked RHCP, so I find it kind of funny. They are...quite similar.

If you truly believe that the Chili Peppers thought they could steal a song from a tremendously famous musician and get away with it you're either sedated or just gullible. This Message Edited On 05.29.06This Message Edited On 05.29.06

Well, if it's true, it's merely another example of rock artists borrowing from each-other. It's neither remarkable, nor bad, really.

the electric guitars been around for decades, eventually some song is going to come along that uses the same chords and everything, although its a little TOO alike...odd i guess, but stadium arcadium is still amazing and i still love RHCP

The verse music is exact - I'm sure its unintentional, but it's still not good

They are such simple songs, both. It's mere coincidence, IMO. Plus the Petty track to my ears has been sped up from the original which means the tempo matches when you play them side by side when otherwise it wouldn't of. Meh...This Message Edited On 05.30.06

didnt crazy town rip off RHCP with "butterfly?" the original is called "pretty little ditty" and you have to listen to the song to hear it

If you listen to red hot chili peppers at all and are not arrogant bastrds, their jams on their live CD's and DVDs are the most original thing you ever hear..... so its not like they couldn't think of anything else to write. The song meant something to them and thats enough of a reason to record it. So what everyone in this forum is saying is that they should have went through every song ever made and made sure that it didn't sound like anything else. Just let them do their thing what does it mean to any of you?

[quote=RandomHero700]If you listen to red hot chili peppers at all and are not arrogant bastrds, their jams on their live CD's and DVDs are the most original thing you ever hear..... so its not like they couldn't think of anything else to write. The song meant something to them and thats enough of a reason to record it. So what everyone in this forum is saying is that they should have went through every song ever made and made sure that it didn't sound like anything else. Just let them do their thing what does it mean to any of you?[/quote]

No need to become angry, everyone is voicing their opinion the same way you are now. What does it mean to any of us? Well it's discussion and it's an interesting topic at hand, so calm down buddy.

aww man.......they sound alike.....damn............its one thing to like tom petty but that is just like it

^I'm having trouble trying to understand that comment.

I think the guitar riff is just a coincedince
frusciante is full of original riffs, just listen to the wah part before the chorus

first of all, many songs have exactly, or extremely similar chords, so why just pick on the red hot chili peppers, I think these radio hosts just hate the Red Hots, ac/dc's "son of a bitch" and The Beatle's "Day Tripper" have almostexactly the same chords, you doint see anyone picking on them, so i say that all the people who say it's plagiarism, and the radiohosts should get a half a brain and anyone who disagrees is a bad person who has to much time on their hands.

first of all, many songs have exactly, or extremely similar chords, so why just pick on the red hot chili peppers, I think these radio hosts just hate the Red Hots, ac/dc's "son of a bitch" and The Beatle's "Day Tripper" have almostexactly the same chords, you doint see anyone picking on them, so i say that all the people who say it's plagiarism, and the radiohosts should get a half a brain and anyone who disagrees is a bad person who has to much time on their hands.

Quote from "false advertisement":No need to become angry, everyone is voicing their opinion the same way you are now. What does it mean to any of us? Well it's discussion and it's an interesting topic at hand, so calm down buddy.

being a pacifist can be a good thing, but the red hots are more original than tom petty has ever been, except for free fallin' (If that was done by him :P) but that's beside the point. someone has just made a false acusation and the people who KNOW that it's false are trying to justify the ignorism of the media retards so to "False Advertisement" i say this: pick a side or get off the fence both sides will get pissed off and you are not helpingThis Message Edited On 06.11.06

I gues RHCP just listen to good music, and sometimes, they unconciously tear a little bit from their idols. They got to double check, like Paul McCartney.

He wrote "Yesterday" at night, and then woke up and coudln't belive he'd done it. He went around asking everyone in the music business if they've heard that tune before. After a month, he said "whoever claims it plays it."

to all who think it sounds like 'sweet home alabama' it is because the drum beats are pretty much the same. a video on the RHCP website shoes all this: how chad pretty much used the same drum beat and how John was using his different guitar rythms and chords around a rap/hip hop album.

these two songs structures are way different and the end result in the lyrics and music is completely different. sure John mighta accidently done the same thing as mr petty but Flea's bass work is 500% better and much more original. also the radio interviewers included about 10 total words in the thing. all the people commenting about how it sounds like tom petty are middle aged mid life crisis cases that dont have anything better to do than call in and try to guess the laugh of a 'famous' actress and bitch and moan about a song of theirs sounding like another song when none of them have probably ever picked up a musical insturment ever.

classic rock is good but i agree with some of the other posters that these radio hosts were very opinionated and definatly not giving RHCP any credit beyond the 7 second sample they played.