Melanie Martinez accused of sexual assault

2017-12-05 by dfevil085 | 342 Comments
Content Warning: Sexual Assault / Rape

Former Voice contestant turned pop star Melanie Martinez has responded to rape accusations from fellow popstar and friend, Timothy Heller, in her statement below.

"I am horrified and saddened by the statements and story told tonight by Timothy Heller.

What she and I shared was a close friendship for a period of time. We came into each other's lives as we were both starting our careers as artists, and we tried to help each other. We both had pain in dealing with our individual demons and the new paths we were forging, but I truly felt we were trying to lift each other up. She never said no to what we chose to do together. And although we parted ways, I am sending her love and light always."

The full statement statement from Heller can be read here:
https://twitter.com/timethyheller/status/937817806216691713/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.al tpress.com%2Fnews%2Fentry%2Fmelanie_martinez_sexua l_assault_allegations

https://twitter.com/timethyheller/status/937817806216691713/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.al tpress.com%2Fnews%2Fentry%2Fmelanie_martinez_sexua l_assault_allegations

https://twitter.com/timethyheller/status/937817806216691713/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.al tpress.com%2Fnews%2Fentry%2Fmelanie_martinez_sexua l_assault_allegations

https://twitter.com/timethyheller/status/937817806216691713/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.al tpress.com%2Fnews%2Fentry%2Fmelanie_martinez_sexua l_assault_allegations

https://twitter.com/timethyheller/status/937817806216691713/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.al tpress.com%2Fnews%2Fentry%2Fmelanie_martinez_sexua l_assault_allegations

"She performed oral sex on me and then I was penetrated with a sex toy without being asked. That's what happened. The bottom line that I need to always remind myself is that: I said no. For TWO NIGHTS STRAIGHT. It doesn't matter that I didn't resist during the action. I had been broken down. She knew I didn't want to, I made that clear."

Tagged: Melanie Martinez

Comments:Add a Comment 
bgillesp
December 5th 2017
2229 Comments


[edit] nevermind

Maco097
December 5th 2017
2492 Comments


Loooool

onionbubs
December 5th 2017
7017 Comments


how about artists stop being rapists is that really so hard to do

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Scoob
December 5th 2017
4241 Comments


I'm sorry but this is pretty amusing

MayhemWithMercy
December 5th 2017
6140 Comments


uhh

Scoob
December 5th 2017
4241 Comments


What

MayhemWithMercy
December 5th 2017
6140 Comments


As if she didn't beg him to send the nudes

hal1ax
December 5th 2017
9717 Comments


so.. timothy is a girl?

MayhemWithMercy
December 5th 2017
6140 Comments


Apparently

hal1ax
December 5th 2017
9717 Comments


k

sempiturtle
December 5th 2017
1181 Comments


not really surprised

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Epicenter
December 5th 2017
247 Comments


...Okay.

We'll have to wait for more information and actual evidence to show up, but this might be interesting to see how it progress. I mean, I've always thought something about her was wrong, but I didn't think this was it. This accusations are springing up a lot nowadays.

alienobserver
December 5th 2017
4135 Comments


"As if she didn't beg him to send the nudes"
did sowing really say this lmao

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TheGreatQ
December 5th 2017
2547 Comments


Some girls were really upset about this in the line for the concert I’m at but they were upset with the accuser.

luckdaboss
December 5th 2017
25 Comments


there goes my 2 year old burned cd of cry baby that i have't listened to in over a year into little pieces

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 5th 2017
6193 Comments


TRIGGER WARNING

Futures
December 5th 2017
9987 Comments


Content Warning

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 5th 2017
6193 Comments


Thank fucking god, too. Damn near got triggered.

compromisedreality
December 5th 2017
36 Comments


Lol, the rapist disabled the comments on all of her music videos. Stellar damage control.

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SCREAM!
December 5th 2017
15119 Comments


Getting triggered by trigger warnings has got to be one of the most absurd things I've ever seen. Way to go there Ghost!

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 5th 2017
6193 Comments


FUCKING TRIGGERED

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 5th 2017
6193 Comments


Scream is bullying me for being triggered.

Hovse
December 5th 2017
2480 Comments


Who raped who

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 5th 2017
6193 Comments


Snide raped Sputnik.

Hovse
December 5th 2017
2480 Comments


Damn I feel bad now

MayhemWithMercy
December 5th 2017
6140 Comments


Lol Ghost did you not see the clearly outlined "Content Warning: Sexual Assault / Rape"


SCREAM!
December 5th 2017
15119 Comments


"Scream is bullying me for being triggered."

Nah, just for being an idiot

hal1ax
December 5th 2017
9717 Comments


ah yes, the triggered meme




seminal

TVC15
December 5th 2017
8985 Comments


None of the links for the Tweets work anymore

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bloc
December 5th 2017
45317 Comments


Wait is Timothy a man or a woman

Also why am I commenting when I know this will haunt my feed for the next 3 days

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MayhemWithMercy
December 5th 2017
6140 Comments


take the 'https//' out of the url and press enter, should do it

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 5th 2017
6193 Comments


"Nah, just for being an idiot"

Aww shit just got re-triggered.

MayhemWithMercy
December 5th 2017
6140 Comments


Gawdammit, Ghost

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 5th 2017
6193 Comments


Actually, technically, re-re-triggered. For accuracy's sake.

hansoloshotfirst
December 5th 2017
596 Comments


"Wait is Timothy a man or a woman"
woman


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zaruyache
December 5th 2017
18093 Comments


Timothy is a woman (or femme-type idk about their identity but they have traditionally defined "lady-parts"). Just a weird/androgynous name, probably.

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 5th 2017
6193 Comments


How is Timothy even slightly androgynous?

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 5th 2017
6193 Comments


Here's my daughter Bill.

MayhemWithMercy
December 5th 2017
6140 Comments


LOL^

XingKing
December 5th 2017
12561 Comments


Not to discredit anyone's claims but who are these people?

MayhemWithMercy
December 5th 2017
6140 Comments


More famous than Bowie???

BlackMalachite
December 5th 2017
1333 Comments


Hey, I'd like you to meet my son Chelsea. He's a wizz at whiffleball, and he's starring in his trade school's production of "On the Raggedy Anne."

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SteakByrnes
December 5th 2017
5304 Comments


Who's Bowie? I only know of Melanie Martinez and her various talents

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MayhemWithMercy
December 5th 2017
6140 Comments


Wait have you guys met my nephew Samantha

http://bit.ly/2iWZjey



Jasdevi087
December 5th 2017
4706 Comments


ayy sweet thanks for the content warning my bro, wasn't sure what this was going to be about

SteakByrnes
December 5th 2017
5304 Comments


Did anybody even know who David Bowie was until he died like come on let's be real

SoccerRiot
December 5th 2017
3267 Comments


"Who's Bowie? I only know of Melanie Martinez and her various talents"

Yup. Her talents include singing, sexual assault, and

bloc
December 5th 2017
45317 Comments


What a strange choice of name for a woman

SteakByrnes
December 5th 2017
5304 Comments


"Her talents include singing, sexual assault, and"

No you got them all don't strain yourself for the third option

XingKing
December 5th 2017
12561 Comments


"believe it or not they're more famous than all of your 5s combined"
This has been an eye opening experience.

oisincoleman64
December 5th 2017
2144 Comments


"name a good david bowie song tbh"
Born to Run

SteakByrnes
December 5th 2017
5304 Comments


Life Is A Highway - Rascal Flatts

BlackMalachite
December 5th 2017
1333 Comments


Come on guys, don't be such cry babies about how this thread's turning out.

It's Sputnik, so serious topics like this are always gonna devolve into pity parties.

Cygnatti
December 5th 2017
32217 Comments


.

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SteakByrnes
December 5th 2017
5304 Comments


I miss Christina Grimmie

TheSleepys
December 5th 2017
194 Comments


Anybody see all the allegations coming out against Jonny Craig?

SteakByrnes
December 5th 2017
5304 Comments


Anybody wanna buy a macbook?

TheSleepys
December 5th 2017
194 Comments


and Pierce The Veil...and Austin Carlile but I think most people knew those ones

hal1ax
December 5th 2017
9717 Comments


"pierce" the veil

it all makes sense now

hal1ax
December 5th 2017
9717 Comments


it was my minor

hal1ax
December 5th 2017
9717 Comments


i am actually a danielito alt

AdolfChrist
December 5th 2017
13584 Comments


"Melanie Martinez accused of sexual assault"

"Content Warning: Sexual Assault / Rape"

luckily that warning was there, i wouldnt have surmised that this article would contain a story on sexual assault based on its title alone.

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hal1ax
December 5th 2017
9717 Comments


i feel safer with the content warning tbh

thank you dfevil085

MayhemWithMercy
December 5th 2017
6140 Comments


Can confirm.

RobertZDar
December 5th 2017
52 Comments


"did sowing really say this lmao"

https://imgur.com/a/tXy7p

SCREAM!
December 5th 2017
15119 Comments


Imagine being so sheltered that all it takes is a content warning to set you off ¯_(ツ)_/¯

RobertZDar
December 5th 2017
52 Comments


imagine being triggered by a trigger warning

RobertZDar
December 5th 2017
52 Comments


wait i just realised scream said exactly what i was saying sry scream

SCREAM!
December 5th 2017
15119 Comments


saul goodman

hal1ax
December 5th 2017
9717 Comments


i am too set off for such hijinks

AdolfChrist
December 5th 2017
13584 Comments


joking about a dumb warning doesnt =/= being set off by the dumb warning.

kingdedethefifth
December 5th 2017
4655 Comments


Woah, even a potential rape case managed to turn into a sach/six anti- sowing anti- discord brigade (as well as temporarily pissing on snide). Lol fuck both of you.

kingdedethefifth
December 5th 2017
4655 Comments


You know what I'm overreacting fuck it

kingdedethefifth
December 5th 2017
4655 Comments


Didn't think Melanie Martinez was going to be the next person accused tbh.

SCREAM!
December 5th 2017
15119 Comments


"joking about a dumb warning doesnt =/= being set off by the dumb warning."

Either that or you legitimately think that making a dumb joke is the best way to react to a news article about someone claiming to have been sexually assaulted.

RobertZDar
December 5th 2017
52 Comments


which one is sach? how do you people even keep track at this point?

RobertZDar
December 5th 2017
52 Comments


honestly people probably wouldn't give sowing shit if he didn't try so hard to cover his tracks and ban anyone who called him out.

kingdedethefifth
December 5th 2017
4655 Comments


Oh please you sperge rage when someone 5's Brockhampton

AdolfChrist
December 5th 2017
13584 Comments


"Either that or you legitimately think that making a dumb joke is the best way to react to a news article about someone claiming to have been sexually assaulted."

whats the best way to react to it?

Scoob
December 5th 2017
4241 Comments


Adolf how do you feel about this post?

AdolfChrist
December 5th 2017
13584 Comments


well scoob, heres what i think

Scoob
December 5th 2017
4241 Comments


Fuck off
I've got work to do

kingdedethefifth
December 5th 2017
4655 Comments


@sach
Is that...supposed to be insulting? I'm not sure I understand?

VirtualBlaze
December 5th 2017
660 Comments


You're all bad.

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kingdedethefifth
December 5th 2017
4655 Comments


No we're all varying levels of bad
Hardly a hot take

Scoob
December 5th 2017
4241 Comments


Ur Terribad
Rayyyy

AdolfChrist
December 5th 2017
13584 Comments


"You're all bad."

yes, we've been very naughty...how are you going to punish us??

TheSpaceMan
December 5th 2017
9784 Comments


user hal1ax is pretty insensitive

hal1ax
December 5th 2017
9717 Comments


it's true
i'm only 33% the man of hal3ax unfortunately

MayhemWithMercy
December 5th 2017
6140 Comments


Mathematics up in this bitch

AdolfChrist
December 5th 2017
13584 Comments


this is all very disrespectful people show some respect, Timothy is probably reading this thread right now. this is consecrated ground.

AdolfChrist
December 5th 2017
13584 Comments


yeah?

hal1ax
December 5th 2017
9717 Comments


hey dan

Toad
December 5th 2017
1532 Comments


Nice dig, blaze

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TheMrAlexK
December 5th 2017
8917 Comments


WHO'S NEXT

TheMrAlexK
December 5th 2017
8917 Comments


Did he make it look sexy?

Sympathies
December 5th 2017
78 Comments


once this tumblr shit is done with, the rappers will start dropping

tbh

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 5th 2017
6193 Comments


Jonny Craig literally tells bitches to suck his dick in public so I doubt accusations of sexual harassment are really gonna drag down his image.

Futures
December 5th 2017
9987 Comments


scream if you're going to make those hurtful comments please include a "content warning" thanks

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 5th 2017
6193 Comments


RobertZDar needs to preface his too.

MayhemWithMercy
December 5th 2017
6140 Comments


Is that the douche from dance gavin dance

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 5th 2017
6193 Comments


The very same.

TheMrAlexK
December 5th 2017
8917 Comments


"once this tumblr shit is done with, the rappers will start dropping"

They already kinda are, thing is nobody really cares


hal1ax
December 5th 2017
9717 Comments


which rappers are being alleged?

TheMrAlexK
December 5th 2017
8917 Comments


mostly referring to kodak and x, also puffy/puff daddy/p diddy w/e

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 5th 2017
6193 Comments


Does Tyler fuck with girls? Doubt it.

MayhemWithMercy
December 5th 2017
6140 Comments


Tylers a homo yea

BlackMalachite
December 5th 2017
1333 Comments


Sputnik gone sexual?
You won't believe what these users did! Click the next page to find out more.
*Ad Revenue*

DarkTyler
December 5th 2017
173 Comments


wrong tyler nvm

TheMrAlexK
December 5th 2017
8917 Comments


And they all still happened... and the former two got a lot of their initial following partly(mostly) due to the allegations (and some drake drama here and there but yeah)

Also damn Danny Masterson got accused of rape... rip that 70s show

someguest
December 5th 2017
29074 Comments


the law of probability states that not all of these cases are sexual assault

but it'd be difficult to determine which were just a case of regret and/or blackmail

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Sympathies
December 5th 2017
78 Comments


rape culture is alive and well

shit, I mean rap culture

someguest
December 5th 2017
29074 Comments


now, now, there's just no way a genre of music that constantly talks about treating women like shit would actually treat women like shit...

someguest
December 5th 2017
29074 Comments


anyone else want to be obvious with Dan

TheMrAlexK
December 5th 2017
8917 Comments


I don't really care for kodak so I don't know every detail but that doesn't really matter... dude was accused just like all of these other people except in his case they turned out to be false. it wasn't like everyone knew they were false straight out the gate... they still listened to his music anyway and he got like none of the push-back that seemingly all non-rappers are getting

someguest
December 5th 2017
29074 Comments


Melanie Martinez accused of sexual assault

Content Warning: Sexual Assault / Rape


lol this is a Sputnik first. don't you think people know what the "news" is about when they read the title?

TheMrAlexK
December 5th 2017
8917 Comments


what are you saying lol me no understand

dfevil085
December 5th 2017
949 Comments


Should've put a content warning for the thread too, huh?

Though perhaps it's my mistake for not predicting something like this.

AdolfChrist
December 5th 2017
13584 Comments


Good thinking.

Content warning:

This is a sputnik thread PROCEED AT OWN RISK

someguest
December 5th 2017
29074 Comments


Why would this need a content warning? Doesn't the title do that for you?

someguest
December 5th 2017
29074 Comments


lol

or did they?

dfevil085
December 5th 2017
949 Comments


"Why would this need a content warning? Doesn't the title do that for you?"

Generally when it comes to these topics, prefacing them with a content warning is not bad practice. Although here I do realize now that it seems a bit redundant / unnecessary

TheMrAlexK
December 5th 2017
8917 Comments


Not saying that's solely why obv but it certainly did not hurt him that's for sure, ...!!!,,, And even if I'm completely wrong that doesn't change my main point that rappers seem to be getting passes in these situations

someguest
December 5th 2017
29074 Comments


I want a content warning for all vegan stories. Seeing people living their lives without eating meat gives me unwanted stress and anxiety.

MayhemWithMercy
December 5th 2017
6140 Comments


Agreed fuck the animals eat their meat

someguest
December 5th 2017
29074 Comments


in the words of reel big fish:

Maybe I should eat it raw
Let the blood run down my jaw
I'd eat people if it was legal
I'd eat people if it was legal

Aw


dfevil085
December 5th 2017
949 Comments


I don't know if this was mentioned before but the way people are attacking Timothy / defending Melanie is absolutely disgusting.

someguest
December 5th 2017
29074 Comments


the only people that know what happened is mel and tim

what the rest of us thinks really doesn't matter, does it? unless a user here is a district court judge presiding over the area in which the alleged misconduct occurred

someguest
December 5th 2017
29074 Comments


Dan Quayle would have made a good ambassador to Iceland

xfearbefore
December 6th 2017
1498 Comments


I'm pretty fuckin' sure you don't need to give a "content warning" about the content of an article for sexual assault when the title of the article is about sexual assault.

god damn sputnik i expected more.

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AdolfChrist
December 6th 2017
13584 Comments


you expected more? why?

neekafat
December 6th 2017
6865 Comments


"As if she didn't beg him to send the nudes" loooooooooool

RippingCorpse1986
December 6th 2017
199 Comments


I thought Sputnik was far away from being your generic ''celebrity-melodrama'' website. Guess I was wrong...

AdolfChrist
December 6th 2017
13584 Comments


did sput sell out to the pop BULLSHIT?

RippingCorpse1986
December 6th 2017
199 Comments


Make Sputnik RIFF again?

TheSleepys
December 6th 2017
194 Comments


Warped Tour is part of a big pedo ring

Dromasta
December 6th 2017
113 Comments


Obvious occultism are you fucking kidding me!? "Pers onal demons," "sending her light," she had been "broken down." Sounds like pure evil at work there. I hope every person that that takes advantage of someone else in that way should be wiped off the face of the earth. I know how most people will respond to this comment, but save your judgement. And yes Sputnik sold out a while ago.

hal1ax
December 6th 2017
9717 Comments


hey

district court judge here

LoLifant
December 6th 2017
1269 Comments


no sexist white privileged men involved so can't be true

Dromasta
December 6th 2017
113 Comments


I don't mean anything by that btw I personally wouldn't hurt a soul. It just makes me upset because hey, district court judge, I would like my family and children to grow up in a decent world where they won't be afraid.

hal1ax
December 6th 2017
9717 Comments


my children will also become district court judges one day
they fear nothing

Dromasta
December 6th 2017
113 Comments


You know what man? I hope they don't. They shouldn't live in fear. I hope all the best for you sir, and meant you no disrespect. I wish you and your family the best.

hal1ax
December 6th 2017
9717 Comments


thanks for the support!

Dromasta
December 6th 2017
113 Comments


You're welcome!

Eons
December 6th 2017
1047 Comments


Wait i'm confused. Timothy is a woman? Why refer to them as ''she''?

AdolfChrist
December 6th 2017
13584 Comments


ladyboy?

AdolfChrist
December 6th 2017
13584 Comments


chick with dicK?

JS19
December 6th 2017
6056 Comments


Jesus christ this thread reminds me that most people on this site are under the age of 17 ugh

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JS19
December 6th 2017
6056 Comments


I'm honoured you clicked on my profile bruh

JS19
December 6th 2017
6056 Comments


I wish I was 17, being 17 was cool, I had much better music taste

coldheaven
December 6th 2017
517 Comments


I guess we know what goes down in the kitchen





da-boom-tiss

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JS19
December 6th 2017
6056 Comments


most of my real life interactions involve some sort of disgust so just trying to replicate those linguistic patterns in my online interactions thnx for understanding

Eons
December 6th 2017
1047 Comments


Seriously though it really doesnt make any sense. Maybe the article poster made an error

DinosaurJones
December 6th 2017
6733 Comments


My favorite part of this thread is that of all things, someone quoted Reel Big Fish.

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Maco097
December 6th 2017
2492 Comments


See all I know is good and ball

DinosaurJones
December 6th 2017
6733 Comments


...and rape

lazarus119
December 6th 2017
3 Comments


the fuck did I just read

oisincoleman64
December 6th 2017
2144 Comments


This is the best thread of 2017

Sevengill
December 6th 2017
7516 Comments


this sounds like a personal problem.
"SORRY ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH, I'M TAKING THIS TO TWITTER YOU BITCH"

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SCREAM!
December 6th 2017
15119 Comments


Did I miss the part where anyone said sorry?

ktjammin
December 6th 2017
73 Comments


What a time to be alive

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KjSwantko
December 6th 2017
10658 Comments


"I didn't resist during the action."......Seems like one could reasonably infer that was because you wanted to engage in it at the time. So much weird grey area stuff lately. Pretty soon you're gonna have to have a notary public present to consent and engage in sexual conduct.

alienobserver
December 6th 2017
4135 Comments


"Seems like one could reasonably infer that was because you wanted to engage in it at the time."
according to Timmy thick she had said No in many different ways before the incriminating incident, at which point she was too worn down to come up with some other way to say no. so yea it was manipulative and messed up but im not sure where it falls on the diddling spectrum

Cygnatti
December 6th 2017
32217 Comments


"she didn't say no"

KjSwantko
December 6th 2017
10658 Comments


So she acknowledges she didn't resist the advances and was supposedly raped, and then chose to spend time with that person the very next night only to be raped yet again while not resisting? Story sounds bogus. Regret =/= sexual assault or rape.

dfevil085
December 6th 2017
949 Comments


Consent needs to be explicit.

DinosaurJones
December 6th 2017
6733 Comments


Consent needs to be explicit [2]

That's like the golden rule.

toocool4pos
December 6th 2017
178 Comments


Matt Lauer's victim didn't say no either.

Bigpapad
December 6th 2017
211 Comments


What is explicit? If my girlfriend and I come home, strip our clothes, and I make the first move does that make it rape because I never got on my knees and begged for a written permission form with 3 different references? I'm more than happy people are getting brought down for disgusting behavior but there are 50 shades of gray involved here.

DinosaurJones
December 6th 2017
6733 Comments


Not saying No isn't the same as saying yes.

I mean, obviously manipulation can be involved, and yeah, 50 shades of gray for sure, but if the word "yes" is said, and not under duress, than that's pretty explicit in my mind.

KjSwantko
December 6th 2017
10658 Comments


I honestly wonder how many people saying "consent must be explicit" are virgins. I can't think of 1 time in my life where consent was "explicit." What does that even mean? You start kissing, both people seem OK with it and into it, and you progress towards sex. No one is going stop and say, "Yes I consent to this intercourse, and no I am not being coerced nor am I under the influence of any substance impairing my judgment. Here is my signed contract stating this." If they ever did, I'd say you are crazy and get off me immediately. Rape is very serious but lets not dilute the term into another meaningless word.

alienobserver
December 6th 2017
4135 Comments


" You start kissing, both people seem OK with it and into it, and you progress towards sex."
which was not the case here

coldheaven
December 6th 2017
517 Comments


Are people still confused as to what "consent" actually means?

Bigpapad
December 6th 2017
211 Comments


I'm not speaking about this case here. If she did say no, especially multiple times, then yes this was assault.

I'm talking about the concept of consent being "explicit".

KjSwantko
December 6th 2017
10658 Comments


"which was not the case here"

Dude you weren't there and thus not able to offer a factual analysis of the events that occurred lol. Clearly the 2 parties disagree on how it went down.

alienobserver
December 6th 2017
4135 Comments


im more inclined to believe the woman who brought this to light with nothing to gain from it aside from hatred and skepticism towards her and what she went through
her account was also much more emotional and detailed than the response of the accused which was very sketchy by all accounts but at the end of the day i still wasnt there.

guitarded_chuck
December 6th 2017
13930 Comments


whomst

Cygnatti
December 6th 2017
32217 Comments


whomst'd've

zakalwe
December 6th 2017
23723 Comments


I tried to finish the article but I was wanking so hard me glasses fell off.

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BlackMalachite
December 6th 2017
1333 Comments


Zak wins again

dbizzles
December 6th 2017
10576 Comments


I read everything zak says in Michael Bisping's voice and it really enhances the experience.

alienobserver
December 6th 2017
4135 Comments


y'all'ain'td've

BlackMalachite
December 6th 2017
1333 Comments


Is Timothy's music good though?

luckdaboss
December 6th 2017
25 Comments


I'm not a virgin, and every time I've had sex I've made it a point to clarify. Doesn't kill the mood whatsoever if you're with the right person. Not difficult to do either, so I don't see what the problem is.

Not to mention the rampant transphobia in this thread...

SCREAM!
December 6th 2017
15119 Comments


"im more inclined to believe the woman who brought this to light with nothing to gain from it aside from hatred and skepticism towards her and what she went through
her account was also much more emotional and detailed than the response of the accused which was very sketchy by all accounts but at the end of the day i still wasnt there. "

A couple of people have come forward to support her story on twitter as well. Granted they're friends but I'm still definitely inclined to believe her in this case

SCREAM!
December 6th 2017
15119 Comments


Also, Melanie can't even bring herself to say it was consensual in her account. She just claims that Timothy "didn't say no" which I find a very strange way to approach the situation tbh

guitarded_chuck
December 6th 2017
13930 Comments


why are you inclined to believe either side in these situations

you guys act like you A) know the people B) have anything to do with the situation

pls

SCREAM!
December 6th 2017
15119 Comments


"why are you inclined to believe either side in these situations"

Comments were literally written right above yours to explain why.

It seems like everytime I see you you're living up to that username of yours.

guitarded_chuck
December 6th 2017
13930 Comments


comments from her friends

do you know what bias is

also a round of slowclaps for you grasping at the low hanging fruit lmao

coldheaven
December 6th 2017
517 Comments


"Not to mention the rampant transphobia in this thread..."

say it louder for the people in the back

alienobserver
December 6th 2017
4135 Comments


" It seems like everytime I see you you're living up to that username of yours."
lmfao

guitarded_chuck
December 6th 2017
13930 Comments


"I'm not a virgin, and every time I've had sex I've made it a point to clarify. "


what in the actual fuck is this

SCREAM!
December 6th 2017
15119 Comments


Along with alien's explanation that I quoted there.

"also a round of slowclaps for you grasping at the low hanging fruit lmao"

It's been a long time coming due to situations like these where you show a level of critical thinking I usually associate with a pile of bricks.

guitarded_chuck
December 6th 2017
13930 Comments


???????????????????????????

if you want to actually debate something i said specifically why dont you do that instead of attempting to shut me down in general like a fucking baby

DoofusWainwright
Contributing Reviewer
December 6th 2017
17118 Comments


w tf is this

guitarded_chuck
December 6th 2017
13930 Comments


its all the mladys coming out of the woodwork to defend a rape accusation against a woman

DoofusWainwright
Contributing Reviewer
December 6th 2017
17118 Comments


2017 - the year I discovered a lot of new artists through them either OD'ing or raping someone.

guitarded_chuck
December 6th 2017
13930 Comments


lol

SCREAM!
December 6th 2017
15119 Comments


"if you want to actually debate something i said specifically why dont you do that instead of attempting shutting me down in general like a fucking baby"

Your "debate" was asking about something that was explained literally in the 2 comments above yours. Maybe if you brought something worth debating you wouldn't get shut down so easily.

Asdfp277
December 6th 2017
16134 Comments


i've avoided this thread so far, but reminder that the girl did say no explicitly, so the argument about silent consent is pointless here

guitarded_chuck
December 6th 2017
13930 Comments


" Your "debate" was asking about something that was explained literally in the 2 comments above yours. Maybe if you brought something worth debating you wouldn't get shut down so easily."

yeah you're defending the accused because of comments by her fucking friends and then saying i have "a level of critical thinking I usually associate with a pile of bricks"

you're a fucking moron, look in the mirror

if someone is accused of murder and their fucking parents say "oh no they didn't do anything!!!" do you believe them too? i'm just following your logic here oh master of critical thinking. i bet you would if it was a woman too

you want to mock me like that brother im here all fucking day lets go what other dumb reasoning do you have for me to take a shit on

DoofusWainwright
Contributing Reviewer
December 6th 2017
17118 Comments


Timothy making a late dash to be included in Time magazine's 'person of the year' award

guitarded_chuck
December 6th 2017
13930 Comments


well technically the person of the year IS the people coming out against sexual assault so he would be included

or are we not including men in that group

Asdfp277
December 6th 2017
16134 Comments


men don't have rights

Asdfp277
December 6th 2017
16134 Comments


this thread redpilled me

alienobserver
December 6th 2017
4135 Comments


"if someone is accused of murder and their fucking parents say "oh no they didn't do anything!!!" do you believe them too?"

he's not defending the accused where did you get that from lmfao

Asdfp277
December 6th 2017
16134 Comments


not raping people is hard

guitarded_chuck
December 6th 2017
13930 Comments


aliens is so balls deep in feminism he cant he mentally process the idea that a female might be accused of sexual assault

DoofusWainwright
Contributing Reviewer
December 6th 2017
17118 Comments


Timothy is a woman...or have I totally misunderstood this story?

'She performed oral sex on me and then I was penetrated with a sex toy without being asked.'

I read this like she liked the first bit and didn't enjoy the second :/

I mean, if a woman doesn't want oral sex then there's a failsafe snapper mechanism at their disposal. Widen those legs apart then thwack.


SCREAM!
December 6th 2017
15119 Comments


1) I said I was leaning towards believing her side
2) You keep completely ignoring alien's take that I quoted because I agreed with it and added my thoughts to as well. So maybe look at the situation/argument as a whole.
3) Yeah I might believe them depending on the context because I am capable of forming opinions using the facts available to me. Those opinions can change as new facts are presented.

Jesus man get a grip

bloc
December 6th 2017
45317 Comments


"I mean, if a woman doesn't want oral sex then there's a failsafe snapper mechanism at their disposal. Widen those legs apart then thwack."

Lmao I'm starting to like this Doof guy

alienobserver
December 6th 2017
4135 Comments


"aliens is so balls deep in feminism he cant he mentally process the idea that a female might be accused of sexual assault"

youre so fucking retarded dude. lemme spell this all out for you real quick.

i typed up a paragraph about why i was inclined to believe the ACCUSER who was accusing, yes, a woman, of rape. I believe the ACCUSER. Im NOT defending the one ACCUSED of rape. Neither is scream, as he quoted my post, and agreed with it and added on to why he believed the ACCUSER

alienobserver
December 6th 2017
4135 Comments


i dont think your level of reading comprehension is even marginally comparable to any living thing on this planet

guitarded_chuck
December 6th 2017
13930 Comments


okay i wrongfully assumed "timothy" was a male and thus the confusion, my apologies, everyone have a laugh at my expense i can take it

alienobserver
December 6th 2017
4135 Comments


https://memegenerator.net/img/images/600x600/17286912/trapped-jerry.jpg

guitarded_chuck
December 6th 2017
13930 Comments


unbelievable assumption right

DoofusWainwright
Contributing Reviewer
December 6th 2017
17118 Comments


Her song titles tell me all I need to know.

Cry baby > Pacify Her > Pity Party.

GUILTY

alienobserver
December 6th 2017
4135 Comments


https://memegenerator.net/img/images/600x600/17286912/trapped-jerry.jpg

DoofusWainwright
Contributing Reviewer
December 6th 2017
17118 Comments


Checking now.

She has a nice voice for a rapist.

alienobserver
December 6th 2017
4135 Comments


yea thats usually the case

SCREAM!
December 6th 2017
15119 Comments


"okay i wrongfully assumed "timothy" was a male and thus the confusion, my apologies, everyone have a laugh at my expense i can take it"

That isn't even relevant. The person being accused is a woman regardless of who the accuser is. So your comment about alien being unable to process a woman being accused of sexual assault after he'd just said he was leaning towards the accuser's side doesn't make sense no matter how you try to spin it.

"unbelievable assumption right"

She's referred to as she in the article (which links to her twitter page) and half the comments here are people making fun of her name. So yeah, if you couldn't even grasp that very basic detail, then that sort of confirms everything that's been said so far.

guitarded_chuck
December 6th 2017
13930 Comments


it is relevant because in mixing up the pronouns being used and defending "her" i assumed the accused was being defended

SCREAM!
December 6th 2017
15119 Comments


Fair enough, my bad there

Imma take a break from this thread, I've been overdoing it with you here and I apologize. I disagree with a lot of what you said but there would have been better ways to phrase all that. I'm just kind of baffled that the reaction new get to a heartfelt story about sexual assault is lame jokes about the victim's name and lamer jokes about trigger warnings. Even for sput this has been bottom-tier.

MayhemWithMercy
December 6th 2017
6140 Comments


Can morons in this thread and other threads please stop jumping to conclusions without evidence everytime someone is accused of a sex crime

Cygnatti
December 6th 2017
32217 Comments


no >:/

AdolfChrist
December 6th 2017
13584 Comments


Why do people act like these kinds of threads are sacred ground as if the victim is taking part in the thread or something.

guitarded_chuck
December 6th 2017
13930 Comments


no need to apologize really scream im the dummy who made the assumption

assume = to make an ass out of u and me

(but really what grill is named timothy amirite)

DinosaurJones
December 6th 2017
6733 Comments


One of my friends is a dude named Kelly. These things happen.

ZippaThaRippa
December 6th 2017
10335 Comments


"aliens is so balls deep in feminism"

balls deep in feminism lmao

Cygnatti
December 6th 2017
32217 Comments


why is chuck being so gosh darn trasnphonic :/

AdolfChrist
December 6th 2017
13584 Comments


Is this person really even trans or are people just assuming because of the name.

VirtualBlaze
December 6th 2017
660 Comments


What's even the point of this thread existing? No one ever wins. Everyone just argues and no one leaves feeling satisfied. Everyone here is an asshole.

Haha yeah that includes me I don't care.


VirtualBlaze
December 6th 2017
660 Comments


It's just a bummer.

Bigpapad
December 6th 2017
211 Comments


Content Warning: belief charged Sput comments.

ChaoticVortex
December 6th 2017
511 Comments


Can't decide if I should be impressed or depressed that a thread about this topic basically turned into a gigantic shitpost.

AdolfChrist
December 6th 2017
13584 Comments


Theres that "sacred ground" belief again.

Cygnatti
December 6th 2017
32217 Comments


i get that some of y'all don't pay attention to this kinda stuff when it hits sputnik (i don't blame u lol) but like this literally happens every time. this thread isn't even that bad by comparison i think.

zakalwe
December 6th 2017
23723 Comments


'She performed oral sex on me and then I was penetrated with a sex toy without being asked.'

The ignorant bastard. Has debauched sex etiquette gone out the window??
At least ask. “May I penetrate you with this sex toy please?”
“Once you’ve done the business with your tounge then yes please, feel free but may I request no ramming?”
“No ramming, right you are”

It’s on page 43 of the manual.

MayhemWithMercy
December 6th 2017
6140 Comments


LMAO zak

guitarded_chuck
December 6th 2017
13930 Comments


"why is chuck being so gosh darn trasnphonic :/"

pardon

SnakeDelilah
December 6th 2017
20005 Comments


this thread gave me aids

Digging: Glassjaw - Material Control

Cygnatti
December 6th 2017
32217 Comments


in jest: "transphobic"

guitarded_chuck
December 6th 2017
13930 Comments


i figured, just checking tho i dont want anyone to think that of me ((:

SCREAM!
December 6th 2017
15119 Comments


"Why do people act like these kinds of threads are sacred ground as if the victim is taking part in the thread or something."

Seriously though, why does that matter?

For one, she might stumble onto the thread. As unlikely as that is, it's the internet, it could happen. And again, even though I agree that she likely won't, I don't even know why that matters. Making fun of someone's name is just a shitty thing to do in any situation. The fact that it happens to be done in the context of sexual assault to boot just shows total lack of empathy on top of it all.

Bigpapad
December 6th 2017
211 Comments


So you're saying we can never joke about anything ever because you never know who might see it and react badly to it?

Cygnatti
December 6th 2017
32217 Comments


doubt anything said here isn't already being said in countless other twitter forums, youtube videos (had she not blocked comments), or tumblr, which'll probably be much worse than this thread (except maybe zak, ofc bless the blimey cunt).

SCREAM!
December 6th 2017
15119 Comments


"So you're saying we can never joke about anything ever because you never know who might see it and react badly to it? "

Did you miss the part where I said her seeing it or not is irrelevant since poking fun at someone's name makes you kind of a shitty person to begin with?

"doubt anything said here isn't already being said in countless other twitter forums, youtube videos (had she not blocked comments), or tumblr, which'll probably be much worse than this thread."

Bad shit is done all over the world, doesn't mean we have to join in and perpetuate it further. Won't ever get anywhere with that logic.

guitarded_chuck
December 6th 2017
13930 Comments


i think a given with free speech is that people will try to take any opportunity to try and be funny for attention (including negative feedback, doesnt matter, thats what trolling is)

its less i get offended by this kind of "humor" and more its just legit not funny

Bigpapad
December 6th 2017
211 Comments


"Did you miss the part where I said her seeing it or not is irrelevant since poking fun at someone's name makes you kind of a shitty person to begin with?"

Yeah, it is shitty. I don't think it's particularly funny either. I wouldn't say not to do it though.

AdolfChrist
December 6th 2017
13584 Comments


"So you're saying we can never joke about anything ever because you never know who might see it and react badly to it?"

this.

"poking fun at someone's name makes you kind of a shitty person to begin with"

i think youre being a little melodramatic.

guitarded_chuck
December 6th 2017
13930 Comments


is that you hct

i fucking hope so

ZippaThaRippa
December 6th 2017
10335 Comments


I heard chuck is a transphobe, pass it on

hal1ax
December 6th 2017
9717 Comments


hey hillary

MayhemWithMercy
December 6th 2017
6140 Comments


You lost the presidency to an orange lol that's how much you suck

hal1ax
December 6th 2017
9717 Comments


what was the hardest part about writing your newest book, "What Happened" ?

JS19
December 6th 2017
6056 Comments


I get the feeling from this thread that most of Sput would struggle to even draw what a vagina looks like without going into their mum's loft for their Year 5 sex ed pamphlet but that's just a feeling I'm getting here

MayhemWithMercy
December 6th 2017
6140 Comments


fuckin' hell

JS19
December 6th 2017
6056 Comments


works every time that

AdolfChrist
December 6th 2017
13584 Comments


I disagree" youve never done the sex

Asdfp277
December 6th 2017
16134 Comments


your real life name is guitarded?

Asdfp277
December 6th 2017
16134 Comments


oh you meant the chick, my bad

TheSleepys
December 6th 2017
194 Comments


"She never said no to what we chose to do together"

what a strange response

zaruyache
December 6th 2017
18093 Comments


yeah when will people learn that not saying no does not = yes.

MayhemWithMercy
December 6th 2017
6140 Comments


when will people learn that sputnik doesn't listen to logic.

Green Baron
December 6th 2017
24130 Comments


Not a fan of that 1-800 song

MayhemWithMercy
December 6th 2017
6140 Comments


............................................Oh.

Scoob
December 6th 2017
4241 Comments


...logic

Cygnatti
December 6th 2017
32217 Comments


logic? he gets depressed too. so relatable, amirite?

Asdfp277
December 6th 2017
16134 Comments


in Tim's statement, she says she explicitly said no

i know it's her word versus melanie's, but

MayhemWithMercy
December 6th 2017
6140 Comments


Tim's
her

I'm sorry but this is still throwing me off

Cygnatti
December 6th 2017
32217 Comments


timothy is a he/him/his, guys.

MayhemWithMercy
December 6th 2017
6140 Comments


Are you sure
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/timothy-heller-e1512439439406.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=782

Asdfp277
December 6th 2017
16134 Comments


i'm sorry about this, i haven't digged enough into it: are you saying she's transgender/etc, or just joking?

dfevil085
December 6th 2017
949 Comments


Timothy is a woman, hence the "she / her " pronouns.

Asdfp277
December 6th 2017
16134 Comments


i mean i used to believe that she was a cis woman from the get-go, now i'm just confused

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 6th 2017
6193 Comments


"lame jokes about the victim's name and lamer jokes about trigger warnings. Even for sput this has been bottom-tier."

You are a sorry sack of shit.

zaruyache
December 6th 2017
18093 Comments


read an article using her/she, so I'm assuming it's just an odd name?

Ryus
December 6th 2017
15704 Comments


"You are a sorry sack of shit."

no u

Digging: DJ Richard - Path of Ruin

Asdfp277
December 6th 2017
16134 Comments


this is in no way bottom-tier for sputnik lol

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 6th 2017
6193 Comments


How tf is Doppelganger a 2?

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 6th 2017
6193 Comments


Good answer tbh.

Ryus
December 6th 2017
15704 Comments


yeah that was an obvious one

Futures
December 6th 2017
9987 Comments


can you guys hook me up with some content warnings for some of these hurtful comments? thanks

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 6th 2017
6193 Comments


Am I the only one who saw Scream mock retarded people?

Futures
December 6th 2017
9987 Comments


yeah come on man i just said hook me up with some content warnings. we don't say the "r" word here

MayhemWithMercy
December 6th 2017
6140 Comments


There is no low sput won't descend to dw

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 6th 2017
6193 Comments


Man? My pronouns are they/them. Excuse them.

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 6th 2017
6193 Comments


You never know which one's gonna show up.

MayhemWithMercy
December 6th 2017
6140 Comments


"they are hot af ngl"
lol

SweeneyTodd
December 7th 2017
1474 Comments


who the fuck is gonna be next? davey from AFI seems to sweet to not be a rapist/child murderer

Digging: Glassjaw - Material Control

TheSleepys
December 7th 2017
194 Comments


Gerard Way will be next

hal1ax
December 7th 2017
9717 Comments


i was going to try to read this thread but the disturbing lack of content warnings on comments has thwarted my ability to do so

alienobserver
December 7th 2017
4135 Comments


hal buddy i know ur new to this but uh for future reference man you gotta tag your mention of a "content warning" with a content warning, if u mention a content warning in ur comment it can trigger images of the things that content warnings are intended to protect readers from, so just try to be more aware dude

Asdfp277
December 7th 2017
16134 Comments


i love last year's jokes

alienobserver
December 7th 2017
4135 Comments


i love you

BlackMalachite
December 7th 2017
1333 Comments


"i was going to try to read this thread but the disturbing lack of content warnings on comments has thwarted my ability to do so"

I love hal

alienobserver
December 7th 2017
4135 Comments


shut the fuck up

BlackMalachite
December 7th 2017
1333 Comments


Damn, hostility

Asdfp277
December 7th 2017
16134 Comments


damn

SexualManChocolate
December 7th 2017
63 Comments


thanks for the triggerwarning. It helped so much

Digging: Big K.R.I.T. - 4eva Is a Mighty Long Time

alienobserver
December 7th 2017
4135 Comments


damn daniel

solongatlast
December 7th 2017
307 Comments


Timothy said "she used her power over me." What sort of power did Melanie have? Just the power of "you're my friend so you should do what I want"? Because that sort of "power" is used manipulatively all the time, but due to the nature of friendship, there's never a clear distinction between manipulation and self-gift.

I wonder if, at the time, Timothy didn't really like what was happening but viewed it as an act of friendship, and allowed it to happen because she cared for Melanie (in which case, what Melanie did was certainly morally questionable, but not a crime). And I wonder if now they've had some sort of falling-out that's caused Timothy to devalue her friendship with Melanie and want to take back what she had given freely.

Digging: Sam Amidon - All is Well

solongatlast
December 7th 2017
307 Comments


I guess to me it seems like, beyond the sexual element, this is the sort of thing that happens between friends, or would-be friends, every day.

Asdfp277
December 7th 2017
16134 Comments


I think the extent to which Melanie used that power makes it go beyond "self-gift" or whatever you mean by that.

Timothy explicitly said she didn't want contact, and the friendship was toxic, one-sided and exploitative before she was made to have sex with her ex-"best friend" / idol / career-propeller / dysfunctional co-dependant factor Martinez.

solongatlast
December 7th 2017
307 Comments


That makes sense.

I'm just having a hard time rationalizing all these crazy sexual harassment stories. This is mainly a 2017 thing right? Or has it always been this way?


Asdfp277
December 7th 2017
16134 Comments


The mainstream story goes that it was always this way, but nobody actually wanted to come forward. Be it because of shame, or even power relationships ("i can ruin your career at any moment if you speak about this") (Melanie could perfectly have done that to Timothy too). Some cases were kinda known but not explicitly, such as the Harvey Weinstein, which many celebrities made allusions to in public appearances and interviews but no one actually reported him.

Personally, I find it a perfectly reasonable explanation.

As of 2017, given the rise of the internet and support groups, people feel more free to tell their stories of abuse, and so it's become a more common thing.


hal1ax
December 7th 2017
9717 Comments


haha @ alien

zaruyache
December 7th 2017
18093 Comments


"Or has it always been this way?"

yeah dudes just started grabbing ass and forcing themselves on women Jan 1 this year

Asdfp277
December 7th 2017
16134 Comments


there were some attempts prior to 2016 and a prototype in October 21 last year, but they officially started doing it on January 1 of this year

alienobserver
December 7th 2017
4135 Comments


yea its still in development we're not quite sure in regards to how to go about the ladies telling the press about it

solongatlast
December 7th 2017
307 Comments


got me

Asdfp277
December 7th 2017
16134 Comments


lol it ok

Bootface
December 8th 2017
23 Comments


"Timothy said "she used her power over me." What sort of power did Melanie have? Just the power of "you're my friend so you should do what I want"? Because that sort of "power" is used manipulatively all the time, but due to the nature of friendship, there's never a clear distinction between manipulation and self-gift.

I wonder if, at the time, Timothy didn't really like what was happening but viewed it as an act of friendship, and allowed it to happen because she cared for Melanie (in which case, what Melanie did was certainly morally questionable, but not a crime). And I wonder if now they've had some sort of falling-out that's caused Timothy to devalue her friendship with Melanie and want to take back what she had given freely. "

I wonder if you know what it's like being raped? Because as a straight, white male, I had no idea. Still don't, but a friend/survivor/LGBT type person urged me to try and educate myself on these matters, so I at least understand how it makes others feel. It shuts them down. You can't really try and apply logic to this sort of scenario in the same way you would a math problem. While I like to shitpost as much as the next person, once you get into the gravity of what this shit actually is, it stops being remotely funny.

And don't blame the victim you fucking cuck.

guitarded_chuck
December 8th 2017
13930 Comments


And I wonder if you know
What it means, what it means
And I wonder if you know
What it means to find your dreams

[Verse 1]
I've been waiting on this my whole life
These dreams be waking me up at night
You say I think I'm never wrong
You know what, maybe you're right, aight

[Hook]
And I wonder if you know
What it means, what it means
And I wonder if you know
What it means to find your dreams

[Verse 2]
You say he get on your fucking nerves
You hope that he get what he deserves, word
Do you even remember what the issue is?
You just trying to find where the tissue is
You can still be who you wish you is
It ain't happen yet
And that's what intuition is
When you hop back in the car
Drive back to the crib
Run back to their arms
The smokescreens
The chokes and the screams
You ever wonder what it all really means?

[Hook]
And I wonder if you know
What it means, what it means
And I wonder if you know
What it means to find your dreams

[Verse 3]
And I'm back on my grind
A psychic read my lifeline
Told me in my lifetime
My name would help light up the Chicago skyline
And that's why I'm
Seven o'clock, that's primetime
Heaven'll watch, God calling from the hotlines
Why he keep giving me hot lines?
I'm a star, how could I not shine?
How many ladies in the house?
How many ladies in the house without a spouse?
Something in your blouse got me feeling so aroused
What you about?
On that independent shit
Trade it all for a husband and some kids
You ever wonder what it all really mean?
You wonder if you’ll ever find your dreams?

coldheaven
December 8th 2017
517 Comments


And don't blame the victim you fucking cuck. [2]

someguest
December 8th 2017
29074 Comments


lame jokes about the victim's name and lamer jokes about trigger warnings. Even for sput this has been bottom-tier.


lmao were you up all night crying over this thread? If this comment section offends you maybe you should evaluate where you spend your time online.

guitarded_chuck
December 8th 2017
13930 Comments


C U C K B O Y S WHO UP

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 8th 2017
6193 Comments


guitarded_cuck

someguest
December 8th 2017
29074 Comments


retarded_fuck

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 8th 2017
6193 Comments


Got 'em.

hal1ax
December 8th 2017
9717 Comments


noice

someguest
December 8th 2017
29074 Comments


nothing against chuck btw

I just like a good rhyme

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 8th 2017
6193 Comments


No takebacksies.

MayhemWithMercy
December 8th 2017
6140 Comments


Oh shit

guitarded_chuck
December 8th 2017
13930 Comments



"Timothy said "she used her power over me." What sort of power did Melanie have? Just the power of "you're my friend so you should do what I want"? Because that sort of "power" is used manipulatively all the time, but due to the nature of friendship, there's never a clear distinction between manipulation and self-gift.

I wonder if, at the time, Timothy didn't really like what was happening but viewed it as an act of friendship, and allowed it to happen because she cared for Melanie (in which case, what Melanie did was certainly morally questionable, but not a crime). And I wonder if now they've had some sort of falling-out that's caused Timothy to devalue her friendship with Melanie and want to take back what she had given freely. "

I wonder if you know what it's like being raped? Because as a straight, white male, I had no idea. Still don't, but a friend/survivor/LGBT type person urged me to try and educate myself on these matters, so I at least understand how it makes others feel. It shuts them down. You can't really try and apply logic to this sort of scenario in the same way you would a math problem. While I like to shitpost as much as the next person, once you get into the gravity of what this shit actually is, it stops being remotely funny.

And don't blame the victim you fucking cuck.

solongatlast
December 9th 2017
307 Comments


"Timothy said "she used her power over me." What sort of power did Melanie have? Just the power of "you're my friend so you should do what I want"? Because that sort of "power" is used manipulatively all the time, but due to the nature of friendship, there's never a clear distinction between manipulation and self-gift.

I wonder if, at the time, Timothy didn't really like what was happening but viewed it as an act of friendship, and allowed it to happen because she cared for Melanie (in which case, what Melanie did was certainly morally questionable, but not a crime). And I wonder if now they've had some sort of falling-out that's caused Timothy to devalue her friendship with Melanie and want to take back what she had given freely. "

I wonder if you know what it's like being raped? Because as a straight, white male, I had no idea. Still don't, but a friend/survivor/LGBT type person urged me to try and educate myself on these matters, so I at least understand how it makes others feel. It shuts them down. You can't really try and apply logic to this sort of scenario in the same way you would a math problem. While I like to shitpost as much as the next person, once you get into the gravity of what this shit actually is, it stops being remotely funny.

And don't blame the victim you fucking cuck.

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 9th 2017
6193 Comments


datsa lotta pasta

hal1ax
December 9th 2017
9717 Comments


too many glutens

Keyblade
December 9th 2017
25181 Comments


u guys talk more about rape than music

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someguest
December 9th 2017
29074 Comments


C O M P R E H E N S I O N



solongatlast
December 9th 2017
307 Comments


Still don't.

someguest
December 9th 2017
29074 Comments


straight white males are never raped

silly

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 9th 2017
6193 Comments


I'm too pretty to go to prison.

someguest
December 9th 2017
29074 Comments


You call that pretty?

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 9th 2017
6193 Comments


U jelly?

someguest
December 9th 2017
29074 Comments


no, I'm human

teamster
December 9th 2017
2179 Comments


Ok , so Timothy is a girl? Yes, I just fell off the turnip truck.

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hal1ax
December 9th 2017
9717 Comments


As a straight white male, I don’t know what it’s like to fall off a turnip truck

GhostOfSarcasticBtrd
December 9th 2017
6193 Comments


Privilege.

someguest
December 9th 2017
29074 Comments


WHILE YOU WERE IN THE CAB

I WAS IN THE BED

solongatlast
December 9th 2017
307 Comments


Still don't, but a turnip farmer/agricultural type person urged me to try and educate myself on these matters, so I at least understand how it makes others feel. It shuts them down.

Shamus248
December 12th 2017
326 Comments


Trash musician. Trash person.



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