I think all that creatine has gotten to Trent's head. Those tracks sound boring as shit
'I think all that creatine has gotten to Trent's head. Those tracks sound boring as shit'
Funny because Kreatine lol. My flat mate used to love that shit.
REPAIRS MUSCLES BRO
Trent said this album was more like the Downward Spiral than NIN's more recent albums. We will see. This certainly seems much more stripped down.
Digging: Glassjaw - Material Control
sounds like pretty hate machine. It's a little bit too much techno for me. But still it's cool. But i liked the "GHOSTS I-IV" and "The Slip" era most.
I wanna start listening to these guys. which album should I listen to first?
The Downward Spiral
either The Downward Spiral or Pretty Hate Machine, PHM was my first and it eased me into the abrasiveness of TDS
The Downward Spiral is easily my fave NIN. The whole thing is amazing and engaging.
Reminds me of the softer songs on The Downward Spiral and the Fragile. Hope they do a few heavier numbers though. Otherwise, the album should be tight. Very happy I'll be seeing them in November!
Trent said in a recent interview that there isn't really much going on with the guitars, more electronic and hardly any screaming or harsh vocals. I'm a bit worried but hoping for the best. Don't want to check out these songs until the album
I really like how Copy Of A sounds live, I hope it's as good on the record too.
Digging: Causa Sui - Vibraciones Doradas
just start with The Fragile because it's the best
Funny, these sound like the sort of songs he's been making for years
Digging: Flotsam and Jetsam - Doomsday for the Deceiver
Seemed a bit flat at the start, however it is his first tour in 4 years so could just be a bit rusty.
The songs themselves are definitely growers, was not too psyched about copy of a to begin with. After 5 listens I am very much liking it. Find my way is great.
Will not compare to the downward spiral (although hard not to with the same artist doing artwork, font and press releases of him trying to recapture that) Shall await my vinyl and digital download and make judgement then. Will be going to UK tour regardless next year
I love Copy Of A. I'm sure it'll pack a bigger wallop on the record.
Reminds me of that Talking Heads gig where the band members come out one by one...
the best place to start with NIN would be the Fragile. The Downward Spiral is better overall but harder to get into.
God he's gone all futurepop simplicity with his live setup, extremely disappointed (it's like Assemblage 23 but with more parlor tricks). I understand the appeal to simplicity and playing on fans adoration, but this isn't innovative enough to warrant a ticket imo (Skinny Puppy did this setup AGES ago, complete with shadows).
I don't really know what I expected from NIN by now, this retreading of old ground is both nostalgic and infuriating; I wanted him to wow and remind music lovers why the group was such a big deal. Perhaps this is the way to do it, but it leaves me a bit confused all the same.
So hats off to Trent, I'm not sure what to think about the new album at all and I actually didn't mind the tracks.
I won't rule it out till I actually have the album, but it does sound a lot more simplistic. Although, I read a recent interview where he said that the new album was going to be very stripped down.
Downward Spiral is highly overrated.
You, sir, need to get back under your rock.
"Downward Spiral is highly overrated. "
So are your mom's blow jobs, yet she is still getting paid to do it.
"Downward Spiral is highly overrated."
Its actually rated perfectly fine. one of the few albums deserving to be on all those bullshit "best
of" or "hear before you die" lists. Not to mention its his best work.
Hes not close to my favorite Industrial artist but Trent makes great music. these songs sound good,
i was worried by the single the album would be YZ pt 2 but it sounds great. in fact they sounds like
a mature version of Downward Spiral with some PHM mixed in
Edit: lol Live set up is even like Skinny Puppy in the 80's, man, he is going old school
I am getting sick of being told how great TDS is. The more people say it, the more it makes me resent it (similar to how for the longest time way back when the only song by Rammstein anyone would say they liked was "Du hast" which made me resent the shit out of that song). That being said, he is most certainly throwing back to that TDS/Lost Highway era which means it could very easily wind up being my least fav NIN record.
Still, I am not counting out yet. It could really be more of a grower.
"I am getting sick of being told how great TDS is. The more people say it, the more it makes me resent it"
are you by chance a goth kid from south park?
Give me a break. Acting like TDS is the pinnacle of greatness and the rest of the catalogue is okay is excessive no matter which way you spin it.
You have some serious issues. When does anyone even say it's the best thing he's ever done anyway?
Besides that, you'll find every band/artist has a consensus on what is their finest work.
So basically what you're saying is if everyone likes something you don't? Think you need to get out more mate.
"Give me a break. Acting like TDS is the pinnacle of greatness and the rest of the catalogue is okay is excessive no matter which way you spin it."
its the majority of fans opinions that its his best album, along with Fragile. stop acting like your 12 and freaking out over it. relax. No one is saying "stone the person who like *NIN Album* more than Downward Spiral!!*. as I said its just the majority of the fans opinion, just like most fans would say, idk, Red is King Crimson's best album, or White Pony Is Deftones best
Nice ignoring what I was actually saying, Gonzo.
And both of you should recognize that my comment was in response to your overreactions to someone else saying it is overrated. A person isn't living under a rock or such if they feel your favorite album is overrated. In fact that comment is actually poignant given that Trent is rehashing the album.
You want to see me as immature, fine, but don't act like I don't have a point. People are irrational about music. In a lot of ways NIN fans exemplify this by their "I wish he was still making angry music" bullshit.
*As far as throwbacks go, Trent already did one. It was titled The Slip and it managed to be fresh,
have well constructed songs and a well defined identity apart from earlier work and be a throwback to
his early era. It was actually the perfect final album. Not the greatest album in and off itself, but
a good send off.
This new one sounds like it will shape up to be exactly what Relapse was for Ministry: an ill advised
"return to form".
Wow, there's so much hate towards the new record and it hasn't even been released. I'm sure this will be at least a 3.5
"This new one sounds like it will shape up to be exactly what Relapse was for Ministry: an ill advised
"return to form"."
Please I dont think any Industrial artist has fallen as far as Al has, Relapse and the Bush Trilogy were years of paranoia after mass heroin use taking its toll
The songs really dont sound like it though if you listen to them, they sound very minimalist almost old school 70's electronica at times, complete opposite of Downward. I think this is shaping up to be better than the last few albums
"As far as throwbacks go, Trent already did one. It was titled The Slip..."
The Slip was if NIN was an unknown band playing in a garage with a few keyboards. Total departure from the "classic" NIN sound, but still as great. THESE songs make it seem like the album will be a leaner PHM.