[edit] nevermind

Loooool

how about artists stop being rapists is that really so hard to do

I'm sorry but this is pretty amusing

What

so.. timothy is a girl?

k

not really surprised

...Okay.

We'll have to wait for more information and actual evidence to show up, but this might be interesting to see how it progress. I mean, I've always thought something about her was wrong, but I didn't think this was it. This accusations are springing up a lot nowadays.

"As if she didn't beg him to send the nudes"
did sowing really say this lmao

Some girls were really upset about this in the line for the concert I’m at but they were upset with the accuser.

there goes my 2 year old burned cd of cry baby that i have't listened to in over a year into little pieces

TRIGGER WARNING

Content Warning

Thank fucking god, too. Damn near got triggered.

Lol, the rapist disabled the comments on all of her music videos. Stellar damage control.

Getting triggered by trigger warnings has got to be one of the most absurd things I've ever seen. Way to go there Ghost!

FUCKING TRIGGERED

Scream is bullying me for being triggered.

Who raped who

Snide raped Sputnik.

Damn I feel bad now

"Scream is bullying me for being triggered."

Nah, just for being an idiot

ah yes, the triggered meme




seminal

None of the links for the Tweets work anymore

Wait is Timothy a man or a woman

Also why am I commenting when I know this will haunt my feed for the next 3 days

"Nah, just for being an idiot"

Aww shit just got re-triggered.

Actually, technically, re-re-triggered. For accuracy's sake.

"Wait is Timothy a man or a woman"
woman

Timothy is a woman (or femme-type idk about their identity but they have traditionally defined "lady-parts"). Just a weird/androgynous name, probably.

How is Timothy even slightly androgynous?

Here's my daughter Bill.

Not to discredit anyone's claims but who are these people?

Hey, I'd like you to meet my son Chelsea. He's a wizz at whiffleball, and he's starring in his trade school's production of "On the Raggedy Anne."

Who's Bowie? I only know of Melanie Martinez and her various talents

ayy sweet thanks for the content warning my bro, wasn't sure what this was going to be about

Did anybody even know who David Bowie was until he died like come on let's be real

"Who's Bowie? I only know of Melanie Martinez and her various talents"

Yup. Her talents include singing, sexual assault, and

What a strange choice of name for a woman

"Her talents include singing, sexual assault, and"

No you got them all don't strain yourself for the third option

"believe it or not they're more famous than all of your 5s combined"
This has been an eye opening experience.

"name a good david bowie song tbh"
Born to Run

Life Is A Highway - Rascal Flatts

Come on guys, don't be such cry babies about how this thread's turning out.

It's Sputnik, so serious topics like this are always gonna devolve into pity parties.

.

I miss Christina Grimmie

Anybody see all the allegations coming out against Jonny Craig?

Anybody wanna buy a macbook?

and Pierce The Veil...and Austin Carlile but I think most people knew those ones

"pierce" the veil

it all makes sense now

it was my minor

i am actually a danielito alt

"Melanie Martinez accused of sexual assault"

"Content Warning: Sexual Assault / Rape"

luckily that warning was there, i wouldnt have surmised that this article would contain a story on sexual assault based on its title alone.

i feel safer with the content warning tbh

thank you dfevil085

"did sowing really say this lmao"

https://imgur.com/a/tXy7p

Imagine being so sheltered that all it takes is a content warning to set you off ¯_(ツ)_/¯

imagine being triggered by a trigger warning

wait i just realised scream said exactly what i was saying sry scream

saul goodman

i am too set off for such hijinks

joking about a dumb warning doesnt =/= being set off by the dumb warning.

Woah, even a potential rape case managed to turn into a sach/six anti- sowing anti- discord brigade (as well as temporarily pissing on snide). Lol fuck both of you.

You know what I'm overreacting fuck it

Didn't think Melanie Martinez was going to be the next person accused tbh.

"joking about a dumb warning doesnt =/= being set off by the dumb warning."

Either that or you legitimately think that making a dumb joke is the best way to react to a news article about someone claiming to have been sexually assaulted.

which one is sach? how do you people even keep track at this point?

honestly people probably wouldn't give sowing shit if he didn't try so hard to cover his tracks and ban anyone who called him out.

Oh please you sperge rage when someone 5's Brockhampton

"Either that or you legitimately think that making a dumb joke is the best way to react to a news article about someone claiming to have been sexually assaulted."

whats the best way to react to it?

Adolf how do you feel about this post?

well scoob, heres what i think

Fuck off
I've got work to do

@sach
Is that...supposed to be insulting? I'm not sure I understand?

You're all bad.

No we're all varying levels of bad
Hardly a hot take

Ur Terribad
Rayyyy

"You're all bad."

yes, we've been very naughty...how are you going to punish us??

user hal1ax is pretty insensitive

it's true
i'm only 33% the man of hal3ax unfortunately

this is all very disrespectful people show some respect, Timothy is probably reading this thread right now. this is consecrated ground.

yeah?

hey dan

Nice dig, blaze

WHO'S NEXT

Did he make it look sexy?

once this tumblr shit is done with, the rappers will start dropping

tbh

Jonny Craig literally tells bitches to suck his dick in public so I doubt accusations of sexual harassment are really gonna drag down his image.

scream if you're going to make those hurtful comments please include a "content warning" thanks

RobertZDar needs to preface his too.

The very same.

"once this tumblr shit is done with, the rappers will start dropping"

They already kinda are, thing is nobody really cares

which rappers are being alleged?

mostly referring to kodak and x, also puffy/puff daddy/p diddy w/e

Does Tyler fuck with girls? Doubt it.

Sputnik gone sexual?
You won't believe what these users did! Click the next page to find out more.
*Ad Revenue*

wrong tyler nvm

And they all still happened... and the former two got a lot of their initial following partly(mostly) due to the allegations (and some drake drama here and there but yeah)

Also damn Danny Masterson got accused of rape... rip that 70s show

the law of probability states that not all of these cases are sexual assault

but it'd be difficult to determine which were just a case of regret and/or blackmail

rape culture is alive and well

shit, I mean rap culture

now, now, there's just no way a genre of music that constantly talks about treating women like shit would actually treat women like shit...

anyone else want to be obvious with Dan

I don't really care for kodak so I don't know every detail but that doesn't really matter... dude was accused just like all of these other people except in his case they turned out to be false. it wasn't like everyone knew they were false straight out the gate... they still listened to his music anyway and he got like none of the push-back that seemingly all non-rappers are getting

Melanie Martinez accused of sexual assault

Content Warning: Sexual Assault / Rape

what are you saying lol me no understand

Should've put a content warning for the thread too, huh?

Though perhaps it's my mistake for not predicting something like this.

Good thinking.

Content warning:

This is a sputnik thread PROCEED AT OWN RISK

Why would this need a content warning? Doesn't the title do that for you?

lol

or did they?

"Why would this need a content warning? Doesn't the title do that for you?"

Generally when it comes to these topics, prefacing them with a content warning is not bad practice. Although here I do realize now that it seems a bit redundant / unnecessary

Not saying that's solely why obv but it certainly did not hurt him that's for sure, ...!!!,,, And even if I'm completely wrong that doesn't change my main point that rappers seem to be getting passes in these situations

I want a content warning for all vegan stories. Seeing people living their lives without eating meat gives me unwanted stress and anxiety.

in the words of reel big fish:

Maybe I should eat it raw
Let the blood run down my jaw
I'd eat people if it was legal
I'd eat people if it was legal

Aw

I don't know if this was mentioned before but the way people are attacking Timothy / defending Melanie is absolutely disgusting.

the only people that know what happened is mel and tim

what the rest of us thinks really doesn't matter, does it? unless a user here is a district court judge presiding over the area in which the alleged misconduct occurred

Dan Quayle would have made a good ambassador to Iceland

I'm pretty fuckin' sure you don't need to give a "content warning" about the content of an article for sexual assault when the title of the article is about sexual assault.

god damn sputnik i expected more.

you expected more? why?

"As if she didn't beg him to send the nudes" loooooooooool

I thought Sputnik was far away from being your generic ''celebrity-melodrama'' website. Guess I was wrong...

did sput sell out to the pop BULLSHIT?

Make Sputnik RIFF again?

Warped Tour is part of a big pedo ring

Obvious occultism are you fucking kidding me!? "Pers onal demons," "sending her light," she had been "broken down." Sounds like pure evil at work there. I hope every person that that takes advantage of someone else in that way should be wiped off the face of the earth. I know how most people will respond to this comment, but save your judgement. And yes Sputnik sold out a while ago.

hey

district court judge here

no sexist white privileged men involved so can't be true

I don't mean anything by that btw I personally wouldn't hurt a soul. It just makes me upset because hey, district court judge, I would like my family and children to grow up in a decent world where they won't be afraid.

my children will also become district court judges one day
they fear nothing

You know what man? I hope they don't. They shouldn't live in fear. I hope all the best for you sir, and meant you no disrespect. I wish you and your family the best.

thanks for the support!

You're welcome!

Wait i'm confused. Timothy is a woman? Why refer to them as ''she''?

ladyboy?

chick with dicK?

Jesus christ this thread reminds me that most people on this site are under the age of 17 ugh

I'm honoured you clicked on my profile bruh

I wish I was 17, being 17 was cool, I had much better music taste

I guess we know what goes down in the kitchen





da-boom-tiss

most of my real life interactions involve some sort of disgust so just trying to replicate those linguistic patterns in my online interactions thnx for understanding

Seriously though it really doesnt make any sense. Maybe the article poster made an error

My favorite part of this thread is that of all things, someone quoted Reel Big Fish.

See all I know is good and ball

...and rape

the fuck did I just read

This is the best thread of 2017

this sounds like a personal problem.
"SORRY ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH, I'M TAKING THIS TO TWITTER YOU BITCH"

Did I miss the part where anyone said sorry?

What a time to be alive

"I didn't resist during the action."......Seems like one could reasonably infer that was because you wanted to engage in it at the time. So much weird grey area stuff lately. Pretty soon you're gonna have to have a notary public present to consent and engage in sexual conduct.

"Seems like one could reasonably infer that was because you wanted to engage in it at the time."
according to Timmy thick she had said No in many different ways before the incriminating incident, at which point she was too worn down to come up with some other way to say no. so yea it was manipulative and messed up but im not sure where it falls on the diddling spectrum

"she didn't say no"

So she acknowledges she didn't resist the advances and was supposedly raped, and then chose to spend time with that person the very next night only to be raped yet again while not resisting? Story sounds bogus. Regret =/= sexual assault or rape.

Consent needs to be explicit.

Consent needs to be explicit [2]

That's like the golden rule.

Matt Lauer's victim didn't say no either.

What is explicit? If my girlfriend and I come home, strip our clothes, and I make the first move does that make it rape because I never got on my knees and begged for a written permission form with 3 different references? I'm more than happy people are getting brought down for disgusting behavior but there are 50 shades of gray involved here.

Not saying No isn't the same as saying yes.

I mean, obviously manipulation can be involved, and yeah, 50 shades of gray for sure, but if the word "yes" is said, and not under duress, than that's pretty explicit in my mind.

I honestly wonder how many people saying "consent must be explicit" are virgins. I can't think of 1 time in my life where consent was "explicit." What does that even mean? You start kissing, both people seem OK with it and into it, and you progress towards sex. No one is going stop and say, "Yes I consent to this intercourse, and no I am not being coerced nor am I under the influence of any substance impairing my judgment. Here is my signed contract stating this." If they ever did, I'd say you are crazy and get off me immediately. Rape is very serious but lets not dilute the term into another meaningless word.

" You start kissing, both people seem OK with it and into it, and you progress towards sex."
which was not the case here

Are people still confused as to what "consent" actually means?

I'm not speaking about this case here. If she did say no, especially multiple times, then yes this was assault.

I'm talking about the concept of consent being "explicit".

"which was not the case here"

Dude you weren't there and thus not able to offer a factual analysis of the events that occurred lol. Clearly the 2 parties disagree on how it went down.

im more inclined to believe the woman who brought this to light with nothing to gain from it aside from hatred and skepticism towards her and what she went through
her account was also much more emotional and detailed than the response of the accused which was very sketchy by all accounts but at the end of the day i still wasnt there.

whomst

whomst'd've

I tried to finish the article but I was wanking so hard me glasses fell off.

Zak wins again

I read everything zak says in Michael Bisping's voice and it really enhances the experience.

y'all'ain'td've

Is Timothy's music good though?

I'm not a virgin, and every time I've had sex I've made it a point to clarify. Doesn't kill the mood whatsoever if you're with the right person. Not difficult to do either, so I don't see what the problem is.

Not to mention the rampant transphobia in this thread...

"im more inclined to believe the woman who brought this to light with nothing to gain from it aside from hatred and skepticism towards her and what she went through
her account was also much more emotional and detailed than the response of the accused which was very sketchy by all accounts but at the end of the day i still wasnt there. "

A couple of people have come forward to support her story on twitter as well. Granted they're friends but I'm still definitely inclined to believe her in this case

Also, Melanie can't even bring herself to say it was consensual in her account. She just claims that Timothy "didn't say no" which I find a very strange way to approach the situation tbh

why are you inclined to believe either side in these situations

you guys act like you A) know the people B) have anything to do with the situation

pls

"why are you inclined to believe either side in these situations"

Comments were literally written right above yours to explain why.

It seems like everytime I see you you're living up to that username of yours.

comments from her friends

do you know what bias is

also a round of slowclaps for you grasping at the low hanging fruit lmao

"Not to mention the rampant transphobia in this thread..."

say it louder for the people in the back

" It seems like everytime I see you you're living up to that username of yours."
lmfao

"I'm not a virgin, and every time I've had sex I've made it a point to clarify. "


what in the actual fuck is this

Along with alien's explanation that I quoted there.

"also a round of slowclaps for you grasping at the low hanging fruit lmao"

It's been a long time coming due to situations like these where you show a level of critical thinking I usually associate with a pile of bricks.

???????????????????????????

if you want to actually debate something i said specifically why dont you do that instead of attempting to shut me down in general like a fucking baby

w tf is this

its all the mladys coming out of the woodwork to defend a rape accusation against a woman

2017 - the year I discovered a lot of new artists through them either OD'ing or raping someone.

lol

"if you want to actually debate something i said specifically why dont you do that instead of attempting shutting me down in general like a fucking baby"

Your "debate" was asking about something that was explained literally in the 2 comments above yours. Maybe if you brought something worth debating you wouldn't get shut down so easily.

i've avoided this thread so far, but reminder that the girl did say no explicitly, so the argument about silent consent is pointless here

" Your "debate" was asking about something that was explained literally in the 2 comments above yours. Maybe if you brought something worth debating you wouldn't get shut down so easily."

yeah you're defending the accused because of comments by her fucking friends and then saying i have "a level of critical thinking I usually associate with a pile of bricks"

you're a fucking moron, look in the mirror

if someone is accused of murder and their fucking parents say "oh no they didn't do anything!!!" do you believe them too? i'm just following your logic here oh master of critical thinking. i bet you would if it was a woman too

you want to mock me like that brother im here all fucking day lets go what other dumb reasoning do you have for me to take a shit on

Timothy making a late dash to be included in Time magazine's 'person of the year' award

well technically the person of the year IS the people coming out against sexual assault so he would be included

or are we not including men in that group

men don't have rights

this thread redpilled me

"if someone is accused of murder and their fucking parents say "oh no they didn't do anything!!!" do you believe them too?"

he's not defending the accused where did you get that from lmfao

not raping people is hard

aliens is so balls deep in feminism he cant he mentally process the idea that a female might be accused of sexual assault

Timothy is a woman...or have I totally misunderstood this story?

'She performed oral sex on me and then I was penetrated with a sex toy without being asked.'

I read this like she liked the first bit and didn't enjoy the second :/

I mean, if a woman doesn't want oral sex then there's a failsafe snapper mechanism at their disposal. Widen those legs apart then thwack.

1) I said I was leaning towards believing her side
2) You keep completely ignoring alien's take that I quoted because I agreed with it and added my thoughts to as well. So maybe look at the situation/argument as a whole.
3) Yeah I might believe them depending on the context because I am capable of forming opinions using the facts available to me. Those opinions can change as new facts are presented.

Jesus man get a grip

"I mean, if a woman doesn't want oral sex then there's a failsafe snapper mechanism at their disposal. Widen those legs apart then thwack."

Lmao I'm starting to like this Doof guy

"aliens is so balls deep in feminism he cant he mentally process the idea that a female might be accused of sexual assault"

youre so fucking retarded dude. lemme spell this all out for you real quick.

i typed up a paragraph about why i was inclined to believe the ACCUSER who was accusing, yes, a woman, of rape. I believe the ACCUSER. Im NOT defending the one ACCUSED of rape. Neither is scream, as he quoted my post, and agreed with it and added on to why he believed the ACCUSER

i dont think your level of reading comprehension is even marginally comparable to any living thing on this planet

okay i wrongfully assumed "timothy" was a male and thus the confusion, my apologies, everyone have a laugh at my expense i can take it

https://memegenerator.net/img/images/600x600/17286912/trapped-jerry.jpg

unbelievable assumption right

Her song titles tell me all I need to know.

Cry baby > Pacify Her > Pity Party.

GUILTY

https://memegenerator.net/img/images/600x600/17286912/trapped-jerry.jpg

Checking now.

She has a nice voice for a rapist.

yea thats usually the case

"okay i wrongfully assumed "timothy" was a male and thus the confusion, my apologies, everyone have a laugh at my expense i can take it"

That isn't even relevant. The person being accused is a woman regardless of who the accuser is. So your comment about alien being unable to process a woman being accused of sexual assault after he'd just said he was leaning towards the accuser's side doesn't make sense no matter how you try to spin it.

"unbelievable assumption right"

She's referred to as she in the article (which links to her twitter page) and half the comments here are people making fun of her name. So yeah, if you couldn't even grasp that very basic detail, then that sort of confirms everything that's been said so far.

it is relevant because in mixing up the pronouns being used and defending "her" i assumed the accused was being defended

Fair enough, my bad there

Imma take a break from this thread, I've been overdoing it with you here and I apologize. I disagree with a lot of what you said but there would have been better ways to phrase all that. I'm just kind of baffled that the reaction new get to a heartfelt story about sexual assault is lame jokes about the victim's name and lamer jokes about trigger warnings. Even for sput this has been bottom-tier.

no >:/

Why do people act like these kinds of threads are sacred ground as if the victim is taking part in the thread or something.

no need to apologize really scream im the dummy who made the assumption

assume = to make an ass out of u and me

(but really what grill is named timothy amirite)

One of my friends is a dude named Kelly. These things happen.

"aliens is so balls deep in feminism"

balls deep in feminism lmao

why is chuck being so gosh darn trasnphonic :/

Is this person really even trans or are people just assuming because of the name.

What's even the point of this thread existing? No one ever wins. Everyone just argues and no one leaves feeling satisfied. Everyone here is an asshole.

Haha yeah that includes me I don't care.

It's just a bummer.

Content Warning: belief charged Sput comments.

Can't decide if I should be impressed or depressed that a thread about this topic basically turned into a gigantic shitpost.

Theres that "sacred ground" belief again.

i get that some of y'all don't pay attention to this kinda stuff when it hits sputnik (i don't blame u lol) but like this literally happens every time. this thread isn't even that bad by comparison i think.

'She performed oral sex on me and then I was penetrated with a sex toy without being asked.'

The ignorant bastard. Has debauched sex etiquette gone out the window??
At least ask. “May I penetrate you with this sex toy please?”
“Once you’ve done the business with your tounge then yes please, feel free but may I request no ramming?”
“No ramming, right you are”

It’s on page 43 of the manual.

"why is chuck being so gosh darn trasnphonic :/"

pardon

this thread gave me aids

in jest: "transphobic"

i figured, just checking tho i dont want anyone to think that of me ((:

"Why do people act like these kinds of threads are sacred ground as if the victim is taking part in the thread or something."

Seriously though, why does that matter?

For one, she might stumble onto the thread. As unlikely as that is, it's the internet, it could happen. And again, even though I agree that she likely won't, I don't even know why that matters. Making fun of someone's name is just a shitty thing to do in any situation. The fact that it happens to be done in the context of sexual assault to boot just shows total lack of empathy on top of it all.

So you're saying we can never joke about anything ever because you never know who might see it and react badly to it?

doubt anything said here isn't already being said in countless other twitter forums, youtube videos (had she not blocked comments), or tumblr, which'll probably be much worse than this thread (except maybe zak, ofc bless the blimey cunt).

"So you're saying we can never joke about anything ever because you never know who might see it and react badly to it? "

Did you miss the part where I said her seeing it or not is irrelevant since poking fun at someone's name makes you kind of a shitty person to begin with?

"doubt anything said here isn't already being said in countless other twitter forums, youtube videos (had she not blocked comments), or tumblr, which'll probably be much worse than this thread."

Bad shit is done all over the world, doesn't mean we have to join in and perpetuate it further. Won't ever get anywhere with that logic.

i think a given with free speech is that people will try to take any opportunity to try and be funny for attention (including negative feedback, doesnt matter, thats what trolling is)

its less i get offended by this kind of "humor" and more its just legit not funny

"Did you miss the part where I said her seeing it or not is irrelevant since poking fun at someone's name makes you kind of a shitty person to begin with?"

Yeah, it is shitty. I don't think it's particularly funny either. I wouldn't say not to do it though.

"So you're saying we can never joke about anything ever because you never know who might see it and react badly to it?"

this.

"poking fun at someone's name makes you kind of a shitty person to begin with"

i think youre being a little melodramatic.

is that you hct

i fucking hope so

I heard chuck is a transphobe, pass it on

hey hillary

what was the hardest part about writing your newest book, "What Happened" ?

I get the feeling from this thread that most of Sput would struggle to even draw what a vagina looks like without going into their mum's loft for their Year 5 sex ed pamphlet but that's just a feeling I'm getting here

works every time that

I disagree" youve never done the sex

your real life name is guitarded?

oh you meant the chick, my bad

"She never said no to what we chose to do together"

what a strange response

yeah when will people learn that not saying no does not = yes.

Not a fan of that 1-800 song

...logic

logic? he gets depressed too. so relatable, amirite?

in Tim's statement, she says she explicitly said no

i know it's her word versus melanie's, but

timothy is a he/him/his, guys.

i'm sorry about this, i haven't digged enough into it: are you saying she's transgender/etc, or just joking?

Timothy is a woman, hence the "she / her " pronouns.

i mean i used to believe that she was a cis woman from the get-go, now i'm just confused

"lame jokes about the victim's name and lamer jokes about trigger warnings. Even for sput this has been bottom-tier."

You are a sorry sack of shit.

read an article using her/she, so I'm assuming it's just an odd name?

"You are a sorry sack of shit."

no u

this is in no way bottom-tier for sputnik lol

How tf is Doppelganger a 2?

Good answer tbh.

yeah that was an obvious one

can you guys hook me up with some content warnings for some of these hurtful comments? thanks

Am I the only one who saw Scream mock retarded people?

yeah come on man i just said hook me up with some content warnings. we don't say the "r" word here

Man? My pronouns are they/them. Excuse them.

You never know which one's gonna show up.

who the fuck is gonna be next? davey from AFI seems to sweet to not be a rapist/child murderer

Gerard Way will be next

i was going to try to read this thread but the disturbing lack of content warnings on comments has thwarted my ability to do so

hal buddy i know ur new to this but uh for future reference man you gotta tag your mention of a "content warning" with a content warning, if u mention a content warning in ur comment it can trigger images of the things that content warnings are intended to protect readers from, so just try to be more aware dude

i love last year's jokes

i love you

"i was going to try to read this thread but the disturbing lack of content warnings on comments has thwarted my ability to do so"

I love hal

shut the fuck up

Damn, hostility

damn

thanks for the triggerwarning. It helped so much

damn daniel

Timothy said "she used her power over me." What sort of power did Melanie have? Just the power of "you're my friend so you should do what I want"? Because that sort of "power" is used manipulatively all the time, but due to the nature of friendship, there's never a clear distinction between manipulation and self-gift.

I wonder if, at the time, Timothy didn't really like what was happening but viewed it as an act of friendship, and allowed it to happen because she cared for Melanie (in which case, what Melanie did was certainly morally questionable, but not a crime). And I wonder if now they've had some sort of falling-out that's caused Timothy to devalue her friendship with Melanie and want to take back what she had given freely.

I guess to me it seems like, beyond the sexual element, this is the sort of thing that happens between friends, or would-be friends, every day.

I think the extent to which Melanie used that power makes it go beyond "self-gift" or whatever you mean by that.

Timothy explicitly said she didn't want contact, and the friendship was toxic, one-sided and exploitative before she was made to have sex with her ex-"best friend" / idol / career-propeller / dysfunctional co-dependant factor Martinez.

That makes sense.

I'm just having a hard time rationalizing all these crazy sexual harassment stories. This is mainly a 2017 thing right? Or has it always been this way?

The mainstream story goes that it was always this way, but nobody actually wanted to come forward. Be it because of shame, or even power relationships ("i can ruin your career at any moment if you speak about this") (Melanie could perfectly have done that to Timothy too). Some cases were kinda known but not explicitly, such as the Harvey Weinstein, which many celebrities made allusions to in public appearances and interviews but no one actually reported him.

Personally, I find it a perfectly reasonable explanation.

As of 2017, given the rise of the internet and support groups, people feel more free to tell their stories of abuse, and so it's become a more common thing.

haha @ alien

"Or has it always been this way?"

yeah dudes just started grabbing ass and forcing themselves on women Jan 1 this year

there were some attempts prior to 2016 and a prototype in October 21 last year, but they officially started doing it on January 1 of this year

yea its still in development we're not quite sure in regards to how to go about the ladies telling the press about it

got me

lol it ok

"Timothy said "she used her power over me." What sort of power did Melanie have? Just the power of "you're my friend so you should do what I want"? Because that sort of "power" is used manipulatively all the time, but due to the nature of friendship, there's never a clear distinction between manipulation and self-gift.

I wonder if, at the time, Timothy didn't really like what was happening but viewed it as an act of friendship, and allowed it to happen because she cared for Melanie (in which case, what Melanie did was certainly morally questionable, but not a crime). And I wonder if now they've had some sort of falling-out that's caused Timothy to devalue her friendship with Melanie and want to take back what she had given freely. "

I wonder if you know what it's like being raped? Because as a straight, white male, I had no idea. Still don't, but a friend/survivor/LGBT type person urged me to try and educate myself on these matters, so I at least understand how it makes others feel. It shuts them down. You can't really try and apply logic to this sort of scenario in the same way you would a math problem. While I like to shitpost as much as the next person, once you get into the gravity of what this shit actually is, it stops being remotely funny.

And don't blame the victim you fucking cuck.

And I wonder if you know
What it means, what it means
And I wonder if you know
What it means to find your dreams

[Verse 1]
I've been waiting on this my whole life
These dreams be waking me up at night
You say I think I'm never wrong
You know what, maybe you're right, aight

[Hook]
And I wonder if you know
What it means, what it means
And I wonder if you know
What it means to find your dreams

[Verse 2]
You say he get on your fucking nerves
You hope that he get what he deserves, word
Do you even remember what the issue is?
You just trying to find where the tissue is
You can still be who you wish you is
It ain't happen yet
And that's what intuition is
When you hop back in the car
Drive back to the crib
Run back to their arms
The smokescreens
The chokes and the screams
You ever wonder what it all really means?

[Hook]
And I wonder if you know
What it means, what it means
And I wonder if you know
What it means to find your dreams

[Verse 3]
And I'm back on my grind
A psychic read my lifeline
Told me in my lifetime
My name would help light up the Chicago skyline
And that's why I'm
Seven o'clock, that's primetime
Heaven'll watch, God calling from the hotlines
Why he keep giving me hot lines?
I'm a star, how could I not shine?
How many ladies in the house?
How many ladies in the house without a spouse?
Something in your blouse got me feeling so aroused
What you about?
On that independent shit
Trade it all for a husband and some kids
You ever wonder what it all really mean?
You wonder if you’ll ever find your dreams?

And don't blame the victim you fucking cuck. [2]

lame jokes about the victim's name and lamer jokes about trigger warnings. Even for sput this has been bottom-tier.

C U C K B O Y S WHO UP

guitarded_cuck

retarded_fuck

Got 'em.

noice

nothing against chuck btw

I just like a good rhyme

No takebacksies.

"Timothy said "she used her power over me." What sort of power did Melanie have? Just the power of "you're my friend so you should do what I want"? Because that sort of "power" is used manipulatively all the time, but due to the nature of friendship, there's never a clear distinction between manipulation and self-gift.

I wonder if, at the time, Timothy didn't really like what was happening but viewed it as an act of friendship, and allowed it to happen because she cared for Melanie (in which case, what Melanie did was certainly morally questionable, but not a crime). And I wonder if now they've had some sort of falling-out that's caused Timothy to devalue her friendship with Melanie and want to take back what she had given freely. "

I wonder if you know what it's like being raped? Because as a straight, white male, I had no idea. Still don't, but a friend/survivor/LGBT type person urged me to try and educate myself on these matters, so I at least understand how it makes others feel. It shuts them down. You can't really try and apply logic to this sort of scenario in the same way you would a math problem. While I like to shitpost as much as the next person, once you get into the gravity of what this shit actually is, it stops being remotely funny.

And don't blame the victim you fucking cuck.

"Timothy said "she used her power over me." What sort of power did Melanie have? Just the power of "you're my friend so you should do what I want"? Because that sort of "power" is used manipulatively all the time, but due to the nature of friendship, there's never a clear distinction between manipulation and self-gift.

I wonder if, at the time, Timothy didn't really like what was happening but viewed it as an act of friendship, and allowed it to happen because she cared for Melanie (in which case, what Melanie did was certainly morally questionable, but not a crime). And I wonder if now they've had some sort of falling-out that's caused Timothy to devalue her friendship with Melanie and want to take back what she had given freely. "

I wonder if you know what it's like being raped? Because as a straight, white male, I had no idea. Still don't, but a friend/survivor/LGBT type person urged me to try and educate myself on these matters, so I at least understand how it makes others feel. It shuts them down. You can't really try and apply logic to this sort of scenario in the same way you would a math problem. While I like to shitpost as much as the next person, once you get into the gravity of what this shit actually is, it stops being remotely funny.

And don't blame the victim you fucking cuck.

datsa lotta pasta

too many glutens

u guys talk more about rape than music

C O M P R E H E N S I O N

Still don't.

straight white males are never raped

silly

I'm too pretty to go to prison.

You call that pretty?

U jelly?

no, I'm human

Ok , so Timothy is a girl? Yes, I just fell off the turnip truck.

As a straight white male, I don’t know what it’s like to fall off a turnip truck

Privilege.

WHILE YOU WERE IN THE CAB

I WAS IN THE BED

Still don't, but a turnip farmer/agricultural type person urged me to try and educate myself on these matters, so I at least understand how it makes others feel. It shuts them down.

Trash musician. Trash person.