Favourite DGD song, so was stoked to see it was the first single from this live record. While Jon's screams took a bit of getting used to I really like it now.
EDIT: added a 'so'
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I don't like mess' vocals in this and tilian doesn't sound as strong as Kurt did in this song but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt because it's a live track. The instrumentation is spot on but it's still not better than the studio version.
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At first I thought this was going to be various live recordings from the different vocalists over the years, but I think studio sessions with Tilian will still be an interesting listen
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Tillian needs to fuck off
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Kurt will always be my favorite DGD vocalist, but Tilian is doing a fine job with the cleans. Although, I would like him more if he didn't always rely on falsetto
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I've always been of the mind that Mess tries to fit in too much into too small a space, and this definitely shows in spots. Regardless, he manages to pull it off at other points... man I miss old school DGD.
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''At first I thought this was going to be various live recordings from the different vocalists over the years''
Yeah, they should've done that, just bring every vocalist in for like 3-4 songs and record them like this, would've been way cooler IMO.
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When I saw them a few months ago they were touring with Slaves and ALLB and they had Jonny and Kurt sing their respective Era songs. I don't know why they didn't put that in the record.
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I love the live recording! Sounds amazing.
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doesn't even sound live, this is sick. tilian makes every dgd song sound so much better
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Definitely digging this, excited to hear the other songs.
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Now you people have turned on Tillian? Classic bi-polar sputnik. He's been on DGD's best album (instant gratification) and is imo their best clean vocalist.
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@ConcubinaryCode - yeah that's what I thought they were doing, it seemed to make sense. Bet that was sick to see though
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"Now you people have turned on Tillian? Classic bi-polar sputnik. He's been on DGD's best album (instant gratification) and is imo their best clean vocalist."
I don't think anybody's turned on him
also I thought IG was one of their best for a bit but my mind has changed on that
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Loved it.
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Don't like this at all
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in every actual live performance I've watch in tilian, he sounds absolutely terrible, even if this was recorded live, it was still recorded professionally and therefore put through the process in post production to make him not sound like crap
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''Now you people have turned on Tillian?''
I mean I like Tilian, but just let each respective vocalist do their song if you're going to make a live compilation album. It's not the same hearing Tilian sing this when it's really Kurt's song. Plus I'd love to pop in the cd (or pop on the record, whatever) and go through each DGD era in 12 tracks.
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"Kurt will always be my favorite DGD vocalist, but Tilian is doing a fine job with the cleans. Although, I would like him more if he didn't always rely on falsetto"
this isn't falsetto. its just his vocal range.
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"tilian makes every dgd song sound so much worse"
Fixed that for ya!
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Probably one of the worst band ever.
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"this isn't falsetto. its just his vocal range."
In this particular song he doesn't use very much falsetto, but on his own songs he utilizes falsetto far more than he should. I mean, falsetto is nice to hear every once in a while, but not 80% of the time
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Eh, this song was okay. Jon sounds super weak, and Tilian doesn't have the power Kirt had. I think this album might be a bit pointless.
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This has always been my favorite song off of Death Star and I think they did a pretty great job. I do wish it was Kurt singing it though instead of Tillian though. Regardless he pulled it off.
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"I think this album might be a bit pointless."
$$$$$$$$
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The more I think about this album the more pointless it is, why the hell would they not just let the old singers sing their songs? especially since they were all on tour together. Would have been a way cooler release.
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@steakbyrnes learn what falsetto is. you're not going to win this one. He doesn't sing one note of falsetto in this track or 99% of other DGD tracks. There are a handful of his solo tracks that he utilizes falsetto. singing in an upper range as a male vocalist does not make it falsetto.
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Sounds like a studio album, which is fine by me. Pretty cool. If nothing else, it'll be nice to hear a few songs I couldn't stand from those awful Kurt-era albums with Mess's vastly improved (over time) harsh vocals and Tillian.
The "live" versions of songs from AS and IG seem pretty pointless though.
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I'm pretty sure it's just supposed to show people what they get when they see DGD live. They tour pretty relentlessly when they aren't in studio so it makes sense to show people what Tilian sounds like live.
and for those that are saying he sounds awful on live videos i've seen them live with Tilian a handful of times and he typically sounds great live. youtube videos don't do him justice.
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"awful Kurt-era albums" whoa there, pal
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This is awesome. Who's saying Mess sounds like shit lol what ?????
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"and for those that are saying he sounds awful on live videos i've seen them live with Tilian a handful of times and he typically sounds great live. youtube videos don't do him justice."
I have a video up of him where he sounds pretty awful. I was there... he was awful for most of the songs, but he had no energy and seemed pissed the whole show. Maybe he was sick. Mess was and is pretty much always great.
All that being said, I have a hard time not loving anything DGD puts out and this is no exception.
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I'm sure he isn't spot on every night. just sayin the three or four times i've seen him with DGD he's sounded great.
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he's just not a good live singer by what i've heard. he's a studio warrior for sure
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Yeah I don't terribly mind if he's not spectacular live. The studio albums consist of 99.99% of the time I hear their music. He kills it on the records, and I can live with that and still give this band some of my money.
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^pretty much this yeah.
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^
yeah
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I saw Tilian and DGD live in October. He sounded great and it was on a small stage with little production value.
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cause he is great tbh
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original is just classic
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Wow this is live? Sounds fantastic.
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@Dmax28 thats what i'm saying! I've seen him in a small venue, and two mid level venues with no production aside from a little verb and compression and he sounded great each time. The first time I had no expectations because he hadn't even put out an album with DGD and he was outstanding, it was note for note. He's forsure a good to great live vocalist.
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"Live Studio"
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beginning sounds like system of a down
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no it does not lmao
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Mess killed it as usual, and Tillian sounds really good for a live session. And of course the instrumentals are on point.
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I think its fantastic, super excited to hear the rest of this album. Jon sounds brilliant, and Tillian sounds better here than he does on any of the studio albums. Shame they didn't use the female backing vocals from the original album version
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"beginning sounds like system of a down"
how the FUCK are you allowed on this site
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As a long time fan of the band, I'm really glad that they're doing this album. It gives people a glimpse into this era's live show, and breathes life some of the notable songs in their back catalogue for newer fans who may not have heard the older material. I've had the pleasure of seeing them with Tilian at least 3 times and I've been wanting to hear his rendition of the songs in a better quality for awhile now. I think he really does justice to the old songs while also adding his own personality to them to keep them fresh. Kurt's always going to be my favorite, but I loved the high notes in the bridge. Also, my biggest complaint with the newer material is the squeaky clean production so it's cool hearing a more raw live recorded version. Also, they're releasing a new album this fall so this will hold fans over til it comes out. I definitely understand why people who aren't into the band wouldn't like this, but I think it's really cool that they're doing for the fans.
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"beginning sounds like system of a down"
Look at this little fucking prankster lmao
Really glad to hear this live record being done. Tillian needs to fuck off, agreed.
I wonder who they'll get onboard after Tillian leaves.
Daryl Palumbo, probably.
ha.
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It's ok, but now they need to record Tilian's songs with Jonny and/or Kurt.
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"Daryl Palumbo, probably."
God I hope so. Why'd you even suggest that? Now that's all I'm going to think about when listening to Tilian: what a better job Daryl Palumbo could be doing than him.
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tillian only has a place in his saosin demos
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^^ nawh he was awesome in Tides of Man. Dreamhouse slays
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Tides of Man was really nice, tbh. But yeah, I've always seen Daryl as a good fit for this band. (In my head, at least) Because not only are their live shows weak in the clean dept right now, but their guttural game has never been strong live or studio-wise, for that matter. Daryl could easily give this band that oomph it needs to move forward. But that'll never happen. So whatevs.
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Jon Mess ALWAYS looks like he's forcing himself beyond belief and it's a big turn off in the live setting. Idk, maybe that's just my opinion. Last time I saw Will give it a go (screaming) live, it was flat out bad too.
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its good
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Jon Mess came off a prick live, can confirm
It almost looked like he was flexing his muscles every time he shouted lmao
AT LEAST HIS RECORDED VOX SOUND GOOD ??
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Meh, I liked his vox on DBMII the most. I don't know why, though. I think most people would preffer his vocals on IG/AS.
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nah DBMII era jon was best, in acceptance speech his vocals sounded so standard and it made me sad. I like it better in IS though
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Agreed for DBMII, his vocals (specifically tracks like pounce bounce) along with his lyrics made his performance the most memorable.
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