Black Flag Lawsuit

2013-08-05 by Mabbitt | 65 Comments
Black Flag guitarist and co-founder Greg Ginn is suing his former bandmates Keith Morris, Dez Cadena, Chuck Dukowski, and Bill Stevenson for touring under the name FLAG and for using a modified version of the Black Flag logo, claiming that they are are "a colorable imitation" that is "likely to cause confusion, mistake or deception among consumers."

Ginn is filing for an injunction against FLAG's current tour. Henry Rollins is also being sued.

Tagged: Black Flag

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DatsNotDaMetulz
August 5th 2013
4515 Comments


It's not funny anymore.

MrElmo
August 5th 2013
1954 Comments


Damn, it's not every day you say a classic punk band going as low as to openly seek the pleasure of "consumers". Sad.

dimsim3478
August 5th 2013
8987 Comments


What did Henry do?

Inferis
August 5th 2013
457 Comments


What the hell is Henry doing wrong?

Spec
August 5th 2013
41444 Comments


"Henry Rollins is also being sued."

Lol okay.

Also this isn't punk at all.

Mabbitt
August 5th 2013
1831 Comments


I have no idea what Henry did, but he's being sued as well for whatever reason. I think I saw
something about him selling Black Flag merch, i'm not sure.

I guess Greg is just Jealous Again

MrElmo
August 5th 2013
1954 Comments


New Album will be government approved!

NapalmCrusader
August 5th 2013
1738 Comments


Lol

MrElmo
August 5th 2013
1954 Comments


Hooray I knew I wasn't the only one who saw him holding dem crumpets

DatsNotDaMetulz
August 5th 2013
4515 Comments


At least Lydon used all the money for a good reason (getting PiL back together and funding an album). What's Greg gonna do after suing his old band mates?

heyadam
August 5th 2013
4453 Comments


rise above

MrElmo
August 5th 2013
1954 Comments


HD TV party tonight!

Trebor.
Emeritus
August 5th 2013
60333 Comments


I got a six pack of champagne and nothing to do

treeqt.
August 5th 2013
16970 Comments


where do i get flag in flac hue hue hueh eaiujriaenjntgheiuühuncfefrdq

Trebor.
Emeritus
August 5th 2013
60333 Comments


gimme gimme gimme

I want some more

DatsNotDaMetulz
August 5th 2013
4515 Comments


Why doesn't he just sue Ubisoft for calling their next Assassin's Creed game Black Flag?

UrsaMajor
August 5th 2013
41 Comments


Lamesauce, man.

Chesse
August 5th 2013
529 Comments


this is the very definition of punk. way to go man rock on

MrElmo
August 5th 2013
1954 Comments


"Room 13" is today his favorite room in his private hotel

JazzHands333
August 5th 2013
314 Comments


Guess he needs funds for his cat shelter

MrElmo
August 5th 2013
1954 Comments


Meanwhile his friends are singing the lyrics from My War:
"My war you're one of them
You say that you're my friend
But you're one of them "

JAV
August 5th 2013
3545 Comments


Confused why Rollins is being sued too.
I doubt many people are confused about this not being the original black flag lineup

porch
August 5th 2013
8455 Comments


rollins and morris applied to trademark the black flag name and bars last year, ginn is contesting that and taking out an injunction



Ire
August 6th 2013
41944 Comments


why is rollins being sued i don't want to have to read!

Eclecticist
August 6th 2013
3863 Comments


It seems as though every time it's announced that a band is engaging in a lawsuit that everyone on sputnik's dicks knot up.

tragic.details
August 6th 2013
684 Comments


This is the least punk news I've heard all day. Seriously guys, what the fuck?

AlienWarrior75
August 6th 2013
134 Comments


like WTF?

pmmets07
August 6th 2013
5984 Comments


"Why doesn't he just sue Ubisoft for calling their next Assassin's Creed game Black Flag?"

beat me to it

Deathconscious
August 6th 2013
27920 Comments


this disgusts me, what a piece of shit.

Eclecticist
August 6th 2013
3863 Comments


Commenting of a news thread isn't punk either, but hey, who gives a shit?

Mabbitt
August 6th 2013
1831 Comments


rollins and morris applied to trademark the black flag name and bars last year, ginn is contesting that


I'm pretty sure ginn won that, and that's why he's suing them.

I think Henry Rollins is being sued because he sold merchandise that had the logo, something like that.

MMX
August 6th 2013
5021 Comments


This
Crazy Town Returning
Someguest getting married

All Signs of the apocalypse

GringoSuave89
August 6th 2013
1135 Comments


I can't imagine Henry having merch with Black Flag stuff on them. He seems so past the band, in terms of accepting his past but not rehashing it financially. I'm sure it's past due royalties or some bullshit.

eternium
August 6th 2013
16358 Comments


This is so characteristic of profit-seeking capitalism.

I know not all punk bands are anti-capitalist or anti-authority but this is fucking Black Flag.

Mabbitt
August 6th 2013
1831 Comments


Claiming ownership of the Black Flag trademark under his label SST Records, Ginn has accused FLAG (including Rollins) of "lying to the Trademark Office on registrations; using his own label's record covers to feign as though they’ve been continuing to use Black Flag since 1979, and in an what's alleged to be an act of 'outrageous fraud', using bootleg SST t-shirts in an attempt to show they've been making such products in that time."


This is what I could find

Rastapunk
August 6th 2013
1605 Comments


Wait so a classic punk artist just filed a lawsuit? What? Some people really want to see the World burn...

porch
August 6th 2013
8455 Comments


'classic punk artist' already has history of being litigious and ripped off a bunch of bands on his label, lol at people thinking he was some holier than thou figure. why should morris of all people get the rights to the name and logo anyway

"I'm pretty sure ginn won that, and that's why he's suing them"

count 4 is cancellation of the trademark application because it was fraudulent, sounds like it's still pending to me. but i'm not reading 20 pages of that shit, whateva

DatsNotDaMetulz
August 6th 2013
4515 Comments


Never really listened to Black Flag anyway but I have little respect for them anymore.

zakalwe
August 6th 2013
42013 Comments


I am a consumer. I am confused.
Fucking dystopian nightmare.

Eons
August 6th 2013
3778 Comments


They were great back in the 80's.

Dolving999
August 6th 2013
1863 Comments


So this was actually "The shape of punk to come".

DatsNotDaMetulz
August 6th 2013
4515 Comments


Tis a pretty strong argument for Minor Threat never coming back ever.

SharkEthic
August 6th 2013
585 Comments


taking legal action against one's former band members is punk as fuck yo

amemento
August 6th 2013
1425 Comments


kek

MarvinLapsus
August 6th 2013
136 Comments


I've listened to the "real" (Ginn's) Black Flag live in Resurrection Fest and it was the biggest disappointment of the whole festival: their complete lack of aggression and a conformist show left me wandering if they were really Black Flag for about 30 minutes. I won't care about this unless the original formation is reunited and starts taking things seriously.

DikkoZinner
August 6th 2013
5370 Comments


tv party tonight

Arnaud
August 6th 2013
215 Comments


So this was actually "The shape of punk to come". [2]

LilLioness
August 6th 2013
3802 Comments


Guys, you are all forgetting something. It is impossible for old geezers to be punk in the same way as younguns. For them, rebelling is rebelling against rebelling.

zakalwe
August 6th 2013
42013 Comments


Old geezers not rebelling is understandable. Selling out is absolutely unforgivable.

Arnaud
August 6th 2013
215 Comments


http://i.imgur.com/XNUBOb9.jpg

LilLioness
August 6th 2013
3802 Comments


I was trying to imply not implying and suing bandmates over rights to your name is kinda the same thing.

Do you think young Black Flag would have given a shit if they had to change their name? I am pretty sure most younguns could give a fuck what moniker they play under.

Relinquished
August 6th 2013
50089 Comments


leave henry alone

LilLioness
August 6th 2013
3802 Comments


Somebody needs to make that video.

WeepingBanana
August 6th 2013
11396 Comments


Black Flag actually DID have to change their name once before they were Black Flag.

Also, Ginn has always been a douche. I'm pretty sure to this day he's the only member whose ever received a royalty

DrGonzo1937
Staff Reviewer
August 6th 2013
18952 Comments


douche

owen
August 6th 2013
5146 Comments


I'd be pretty pissed too if someone would try to secretly steal my patent.
But sue your old friends..?

Acrosstheshield13
August 6th 2013
797 Comments


Cry me a fucking river, Ginn. Entitled asshole.

ZippaThaRippa
August 6th 2013
10674 Comments


A river of Gin. That would be something. Great to swim in but don't open your fucking eyes.

sinsexsodomy
August 7th 2013
263 Comments


Wow why is Rollins getting sued too, hell why are any of them? Black Flag is Rollins as much as Morris as much as Gin's etc. Sounds like someone is money hungry....

sinsexsodomy
August 8th 2013
263 Comments


^holy shit forgot about that show, haha it was awesome

owen
August 11th 2013
5146 Comments


I saw this "black flag" at hardcore fest in Ieper, because they were headlining.
Holy shit it was the worst show I've ever seen. Nobody sung along, nobody moved. Somebody got on stage to give black flag the finger. They all left angrily, except for ginn, he just stood there; looking at the ground while making noise

porch
October 14th 2013
8455 Comments


ginn lost the preliminary injunction


"Last, Ginn wasn't able to prove that Flag had confused "significant numbers of consumers," since his evidence consisted of claiming that "at one of his shows, fans asked him if he would be at an upcoming Flag show."

lol

porch
October 14th 2013
8455 Comments


"too bad Rollins doesn't still have his own show"

he does

porch
October 14th 2013
8455 Comments


weekly radio show on kcrw. plays a lot of cool stuff and he's way more suited to that format. he just came off as awkward on tv for whatever reason

dsroka005
October 14th 2013
1526 Comments


oh awesome



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