these issues

they f**K me liek a noose

Really not a fan of sofis vocals.

This song's been circulating for a while and so are most of the songs from the next album

I hate when this kind of music has annoying vocals.

What a terrible name.

Sigh, electro house bs. Its a shame because he really did have potential, and still occasionally releases some really great stuff.

I love the mau5 and everything he does

This sort of music takes such little skill to produce.

Won't even listen.

How many unces does it have? Lots? Probably.

To be honest, Deadmau5 is actually a very talented producer, it just doesn't shine through on this crap.

Edit - wait I hope your not reffering to house music in general with that comment...

This sort of music takes such little skill to produce.

I just think he may be!

Deadmau5 has been dead to me since the MTV Awards

AAAAAAAAAAAAIN'T NO DJ EVER GONNA SATISFY ME

raise your weapon is a beautiful, beautiful song

i lol in self righteous pretentiousness when people call him dead mow five

Not bad at all

Nomos you're retarded

this is so good wtf people

This sort of music takes such little skill to produce.

This song's alright. Not too special.

I'm diggin' it.

It's alright, but I'm not feeling it.

As I said Deviant, just not a fan of electro house. His progressive stuff is still awesome though.

mau5 is dope.
this track however... meh.

Music's weak, no surprise. Vocals are sweet though.

Shut up Bloc

But I said something nice...

I actually agree with Bloc, the music in this is really average.

Toxic Avenger> Deadmau5

hahahahahahano

Lets do the math

Skrillex > Toxic Avenger
Wolfgang Gartner > Skrillex
Deadmau5 > Wolfgang Gartner

dude skrillex is pretty ill bro

DANCE OH MY GOD

"Music's weak, no surprise. Vocals are sweet though."

Shut up bloc

Can we please stop comparing artists from completely different genre's please? Not even sure how TA and Deadmau5 are present in the same conversation at this point, last time I checked fidget house didn't = electro/progressive/tech (including all of those because a lot of early Deadmau5 was very techy).

Lol, fidget doesn't exist

Lol, you have no idea what you are talking about. Listen to Deadmau5 - Now listen to The Toxic Avenger/Fake Blood/The Bloody Beetroots/Foamo - does that sound the same to you?

Anyway, genre discussions aside, he is capable of much more than this.

Just because they are making the same music but in different ways doesn't nullify the fact they all come from the same genre, thus making comparisons credible

Lol, you have no idea what you are talking about

To use an example, its like using Cannibal Corpse and Papa Roach in the same sentence - same umbrella genre ( metal ), totally different types of music.

You may call it a 'blog' genre, but it describes the sound of so many artists I find it hard to understand why it is a 'joke.'

"To use an example, its like using Cannibal Corpse and Papa Roach in the same sentence - same umbrella genre ( metal ), totally different types of music."

Fucking stupid. Metal is a whole genre, house is a subgenre of electronic. Even i know this shit.

In that sense Metal is a 'sub genre' of rock music - you don't seem to know what a blanket term 'house' is. You have electro, progressive, tech, hard house to name but a few. I'm just hazarding a guess here, but I bet you don't actively listen to the genre Scream, so I think you are just trying to get in on the agument at this point. I'm just trying to point out, arguing about whether The Toxic Avenger is better than Deadmau5 is just stupid.

Anyway, I didn't mean to turn this into a huge argument here, if we want to have a more in depth conversation about the conotations of the tag 'house' music I'm sure we can do it on the forums.

"In that sense Metal is a 'sub genre' of rock music - you don't seem to know what a blanket term 'house' is. "
This isnt the 80's anymore. Metal has as many sub genres as just about every other genre (death, black, sludge, prog, doom,folk, etc) and each has sub-sub genres etc. I may not be an expert on electronic music (although ive been slowly learning more about the genre and discovering new artists i like) but i do know enough about metal to realise that comparison was stupid (which you dont seem to).

As does House Scream - that is the key point here. It is a huge, huge genre, I would argue as big as Metal, no questions asked.

Anyway, as I said, this can be continued on the forums if you wish, and as your new to the genre, I'm sure I could give you a few artists you might like.

I dont know the house genre all that well yet like i said but i cant help but get the feeling you might be underestimating metal a bit as a genre. Anyway sprry for the initial outburst you seem alot more calm and reasonable than i had first imagined and im not a huge fan of the forums but i can shoutbox you some artists and see what you have to say as im always looking to increase my repertoire of bands in the electronic genre and it can be hard to pick out of the sea of names

Look at the house thread in the 'other' forums for my recomendations. A lot of the tracks are very progressive house, which is more for trance fans, but you might like them.

And yes, I know how huge metal is - I was just trying to illustrate a point. House is huge, just not on these forums aha.

Anyway, I didn't mean to turn this into a huge argument here

arguing about whether The Toxic Avenger is better than Deadmau5 is just stupid.

Deadmau5 also work (worked) in the realms of tech and progressive house, and even branched out into progressive trance quite a lot in the old days. You'd be hard pressed to find a Toxic Avenger song that you could honestly compare, IMO. Regardless of whether you think Fidget is a hipster tag or not, I think its pretty clear there is enough of a sound difference to warrant the genre tag, but no doubt we could debate that all night. As I said, theres a house thread in the other music forum ( replacing the a 'fidget house' thread, funnily enough ) that we can continue this discussion in.

Edit - double post, sorry.

I never said fidget was a hipster tag, I said it wasn't a real tag

And I know full well about the house thread, i'm more than content with talking about a musical genre on a music website right here. You can say that Zimmerman did this and he did that which is fine, but they both also work in electro house. I never compared a track, I simply stated that I found one to be better than the other and I'm more than content with using their name in the same sentence for the reasons I've already stated. But if you still feel that I'm wrong (about my opinion) do enlighten me

Well, we can agree to disagree on that one - Fidget, in my opinion, is a real genre and it is different enough from standard electro house to warrant its own tag. Maybe I'm just nitpicking, but thats my opinion.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2008/sep/08/welcometofidgethouse
http://www.djmag.com/news/detail/317

'We came up with 'fidget house' as a joke, which has now gone a little too far. Switch, Trevor Loveys, Herve and myself all make and play 'fidget house', and although we all have different influences we are influenced by music that isn't straight-up house, like hyphy and bali funk'

So they came up with it as a joke, but he admits they all play it? Interesting. I think the point is, they obviously weren't expecting the genre to blow up as it did, with so many artists starting to produce the same style of music.

No they created the term as a joke, why do you think they used quotation marks?

vocals sucked rest was awesome

"vocals sucked rest was awesome"
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The fact they initially came up with the tag as joke doesn't detract from the fact that hundreds of artists started making music with all the characteristics of a 'joke' genre.

Except they didn't. Your "hundreds of artists" just decided to incorporate more dubstep and garage aesthetics into their sound, and Jesse and co jokingly labelled it as "fidget", then all these internet kids latched onto the term - hence the joke went too far.

The music was there long before people started making up names for it

Wow, dubstep? Seriously? If you are talking about 'wonky' bass sounds, I think you need to listen to some dubstep not released in the last 3 years....

As I said, I still think there are pretty clear differences in sound - regardless of whether the name of the genre is a 'joke,' the distinction in sound is clearly present.

Trying to educate me on dubstep is pretty funny when I could just as easily tell you to go and listen to say, 'Ufo' by Jack Beats

the blanket genre for this is music

And when was that song released Deviant? The rise of wobble heavy dubstep actually occured after Fidget had its time, and only recently have artists such as the lovely Skrillex started mixing the two effectivley. There is a bigg difference between dubstep 5 - 8 years ago and stuff released recently, as you no doubt are aware considering your recent Burial rating.

The rise of wobble heavy dubstep actually occured after Fidget had its time,

Listen to something from the turn of the century and then listen to recent dubstep and then come back and answer that question for yourself.

Uh, let's see here. Dubstep becomes uber popular and hundreds of artists start copying the sound, which includes "wobbly" bass - a sound that was always apparent in dubstep since the very beginning but is now pushed to the very forefront of the sound. House musicians come along and start including it in their sound, and start using influences from late 90's/early 00's garage scene and people start calling it fidget house because it includes both

So where exactly did you write your own history?

Song is pretty cool, be better without the vocals thou.

deviant on a rampage

Wobble bass was not as prominent in early dubstep, actually - present yes, but prominent enough to say it influenced a (
according to you ) fake genre's creation? No. It was very dubby, and very sub bass heavy before producers started heavily
using the 'wobble' bass driven sounds. Why do you think original dubstep fans get so pissy about the newer artists and the
direction the genre has taken? If you actually bothered to read my posts instead of cherry picking comments to quote, I
clearly differentiate between the more recent bass driven dubstep, and the classic sound.

Anyway, this argument isn't going anywhere as we seem to have inherintly differing opinions on whether fidget is a genre or
not - but you do make a valid point with the 'Internet' genre comments. But, every genre has to start somewhere - I
remember seeing arguments similar to this about Deathcore, and look where that is now. As I stated earlier, this could go on
al night and it looks like it did!

Never been a fan of minimal house. It's pretty easy to produce and I never really understood deadmau5 fans orgasming over his music.

i herd hes pretty trendy

Wobble bass was not as prominent in early dubstep, actually - present yes, but prominent enough to say it influenced a (
according to you ) fake genre's creation? No. It was very dubby, and very sub bass heavy before producers started heavily
using the 'wobble' bass driven sounds. Why do you think original dubstep fans get so pissy about the newer artists and the
direction the genre has taken? If you actually bothered to read my posts instead of cherry picking comments to quote, I
clearly differentiate between the more recent bass driven dubstep, and the classic sound.

And as for "fidget", different interpretations regarding its origins aside, I've never seen it as a wholly separate genre when (to me) its just a collision of different genres already. Yeas I mentioned dubstep as one of the influences, but for instance Fake Blood uses a lot of rave throwbacks and even disco at times. For me, its just a different take on an already established sound

Relax man

I'm calm as a coma

It's odd to see such a heated argument over such a chill genre.

I wouldn't call it heated (at least from my end of it), but I suppose things take on a tone of their own when written

Okay maybe not heated, but quite intense. How come we don't discuss music like that?

I don't care about futurepop?

It always comes down to futurepop with you. I'm starting to think you secretly like it : )

Whatever helps you sleep at night

Oh it helps alright. Nighty night!

Say hi to mrs palmer for me

LOL

Had to Google that one first.











But seriously, I met with her already.

lol at scream thinking he knows about metal