Was he that nerdy, out of place guy? He was a pretty good drummer.

im surprised they're bass player wasnt the one who left.

He was the one who looked like a suburban gangsta. Kind of out of place, but he looked happy with them.

gosh they act like he died or something

He was alright. Sorry about it being so late. I just saw it today cuz I was wondering what they were up to. cuz I was talking to Quinn's girlfriends roomate last year and he said they were releasing an album in 2007 and then I had never heard anything about it after that.

Not that surprising. I heard he actually had a seperate tour bus from the band cause he's straight edge

/ that would be a pretty weak reason to kick someone out. Too bad, he was a pretty good drummer.

Agreed, I thought he was pretty decent as well. I'm sure if he WAS straight-edge it could definitely interfere with the lifestyle of the other members and I'm sure disrupt some things in the studio. You'd like to think that a band member wouldn't get canned unless it was for the ever popular "creative differences," but if the whole straight edge thing is true...guess this proves it wrong. Anyone know for sure the reason?

This is really dissapointing. Him and Bert were the two strongpoints of the band. His drumming was amazing. I really thought a lot of that guy. That's too bad. I hope their new drummer can even begin to add up to what he was.