deactivate it please
Digging: Nothing - The Great Dismal
Feels good, man
Digging: Profanum - Profanum Aeternum Eminence Of Satanic Imperial Art
Short and sweet, with the usual tech-riffs.
Not bad. Vocals will take some getting used to (and the slight tuning shift to compensate for it) but it's a decent jam. Seems like a very intentional attempt at presenting a short, focused single to kind of ease the band back in, and, at the very least, it succeeds at that.
David DiSanto is an abuser
it was some ugly business
beat his wife, strangled her till the cops were called, sexually assaulted her and locked her in a basement
but hey guys, riffs!!
Nice Storm of the light bane's 5 mate.
Nödtveidt killed someone, but hey man, riffs!!
Pretty cringy man...
thanks for reminding me. un-5'd
Doesn't make it any less cringe tbh.
Let people enjoy music as they like.
where did I say they couldn't?
I just don't think his actions should be overlooked or forgotten.
Sure, but this is a music discussion forum and you did not say a single word about the music itself, but straight went to the abuse stuff.
yes, because his actions should not be overlooked or forgotten.
what's your point?
I may not have mentioned the music, but I'm talking about the musician, so it's still relevant.
if he's banking on the idea that people have forgotten/don't care in order to make a comeback, of course people should be reminded. every single public thing he does in the future should come with a giant asterisk that he's an abuser. it should never be forgotten.
I doubt he’s banking on anything excepting wanting to keep making music, it’s not like a band like Vektor is raking in money. vast majority of metal artists would be better off doing some other job
I really hope they alternate the shrieks with the lower register vox. There's a rumor that DiSanto shot his vocal chords and if that's the case it'd be a fucking shame. I always thought they had so much character.
Not hugely impressed by the track, but since the song is going on the split ep it's no biggie.
I really hope they step it up for their next lp though.
Also Heck, you are a hero, doing gods work.
band sucks as usual
Fuck DiSanto and any current music he puts out, and fuck Erik Nelson for rejoining this band. He had an out when him, Frank Chin, and Blake Anderson quit in 2016. He has to know what kind of a person DiSanto is, and the fact that he's still helping DiSanto out is repugnant.
track pumps me up, makes me wanna strangle someone!!
Digging: The Chariot - One Wing
>Also Heck, you are a hero, doing gods work.
take the L bro
Digging: Government - Shitshitshit [japanese death poem]
it's kinda weird when somebody gets so defensive over the idea of calling out domestic abuse
"it's kinda weird when somebody gets so defensive over the idea of calling out domestic abuse" 
Also new song is basically thrash by numbers with some Vektor-isms thrown in. Even if the dude wasn't a wifebeater I'd still be hella disappointed in this. Looks like they peaked already.
Damn I honestly didn't know there was such a deep and violent history of abuse there. All I heard about what DD throwing a pillow, which at this point was obviously a form of minimization.
Thanks heck for staying on the horse and repeatedly posting about it. Stuff I'm glad I know now honestly.
Digging: Frozen Soul - Crypt Of Ice
yeah song is pretty bad
"it's kinda weird when somebody gets so defensive over the idea of calling out domestic abuse"
Hypocrisy is pathetic, more like.
which is apparently a bigger sin to you than beating women.
no hypocrisy on my part either way, since I've never committed domestic abuse unlike the person I'm calling out.
take the L bro 
I didn’t realize there were fans that didn’t know why they broke up so I guess it was topical.
Maybe it makes me a bad person, but I’m still gonna listen to black future and hvis lyset and storm of the lights bane and massive conspiracy against all life and all the other albums I like regardless of who made them
Maybe the most overrated sput band
@Itwasthatwas You can still listen to it, just don't give them money
>Maybe the most overrated sput band
its up there, but prob not THE #1
Always thought this band was overrated. 73 minutes of noodley thrash metal must be compensating for something.
But the art and the artist debate is an interesting one, and I'm not ashamed to take the "edgy" position. David Bowie fucked a 13 yo and I acknowledge it's fucked up but I still think he's the greatest artist of his generation.
boring song tbh
did someone say “more like deactivate” yet
i didn’t listen to the song
i didn't, heck did
lol oh heck
Pretty good song.
vox sound like if King Gizzard tried harsh vox as a joke, unsurprising he'd ruin his voice with all those pinched squeaks.
heck unironically doing the lord's work tho
Song sucks but the bass is sick. All bass should be that loud
senetrix i got u fam click this
It sounds like a generic thrash band trying to do a Vektor cover.
Cryptic Shift mop the floor with these guys.
Decent song, I dig it. Def more simplified compared to previous shit.
Solid track. Not surprised by the comments.
boy i do not like the change in vocals here, tho i'm hardly surprised that the dude's voice is supposedly fucked from the old style.
song is meh otherwise although its at least not 7 minutes long
Awesome song, glad they're back.
Also funny how people are still mad at David for throwing a pillow at his wife.
you might wanna re-read all the shit his wife said he did bud it's a bit worse than " OwO meanie daddy pillow fight "
yeah he threw a pillow...
and also beat her
and also strangled her
and also confined her in the basement
and also threatened to kill her numerous times
but nah you do your conjectures bro ur fave trash metal is back fuck human beings amirite
"Fuck DiSanto and any current music he puts out, and fuck Erik Nelson for rejoining this band. He had an out when him, Frank Chin, and Blake Anderson quit in 2016. He has to know what kind of a person DiSanto is, and the fact that he's still helping DiSanto out is repugnant."
People tend to forget or not know why everyone quit the band back in 2016 in the first place. DiSanto's behavior or personality was not the main reason, or at least not the only one.
Also people tend to forget there's always more than one side to a story.
Anyway, it's a damn shame Vektor threads can't be just about the music no more.
Digging: Exocosm - Spiral of Decay
Those are all allegations, nothing more. Erik released a statement after re-joining the band that made it sound like his wife isn't Honest. If you and your infinite wisdom wanna cancel everyone just because of allegations that's fine, to me people are innocent until proven guilty. The pillow throw video is all the evidence, and it's been completely blown out of proportion.
Digging: Yoth Iria - As The Flame Withers
The band broke up, almost been eviscerated from the landscape for DiSanto's accusations, and still came out with a song faster than the gap between Outer Isolation and Terminal Redux, I call this is a win. Tbh I was so used to DiSanto's raspy vocals that I didnt think he was capable of this type of more normal vocal style lol
surprised it took this long to get one of these asinine tHeY'rE jUsT aLlEgAtIoNs smoothbrains
Cancel culture ACTIVATE!
In all seriousness domestic abuse is not ok, yeah
allegations (plural noun)
a claim or assertion that someone has done something illegal or wrong, typically one made without proof.
Nice riff package as expected. I'm glad the lads are still out around despite the lineup changes.
Digging: Asphyx - Necroceros
Notrap bringing shit back down to business, yeah.
Track is actually intricate enough, for those that care to listen.
its pretty weak tbh
though i do appreciate that its not 9 minutes long
I find it intellectually stimulating to have a controversial opinion about this.
Idk why everyone thinks it’s controversial to not want to listen to a band because they have members that are pieces of shit. Like if you can separate it that’s tight you do you but this band was always 3/5 territory for me so it’s easier to just not support them lol
The point, although well hidden, was that liking Vektor is controversial bc now it implies supporting domestic abuse.
Surprisingly boring tbh
Boring song tbh, quite generic by Vektor standards too.
also the comparison with dissection is not the same because jon nodtveidt is dead and is not in a position to profit off this stuff. obviously the art may still be informed by the same ideology anyway but it doesn't benefit him to have people buy it or not when he's in the grave
Digging: Vicious Rumors - Digital Dictator
Anyway, the crux of the matter is that this song is extremely disappointing (and I loved Vektor's previous musical output)
People get so sensitive about abuse...
It happened, hopefully he was punished, he repented, and he will never do it again.
Tim Lambesis went to prison for a few years for what he did. It sucks people do what they do, but don't act like there's no redemption...
Dissection also has strong ties to national socialism. I'm not self-righteous enough to let most personal crimes interfere with the appraisal of art, but fascism will definitely color my perception.
I can for sure get that someone's enjoyment of art is tied to his/her moral beliefs. And I can definitely understand that someone won't be comfortable with financially supporting a band that has a certain amount of sketchiness surrounding it, even if just one musician in that band turns out to be of issue. At the same time you can't really expect everyone to have the same internal moral conflict. And you can judge someone else's stance regarding these issues, but when push comes to shove you can't really expect them to care. At the end of the day people will just go about their business and do as they please.
fun song, but yeah hopefully they come out with something in line with their previous output. feels like it's missing something with those vocals.
I haven’t listened to this because I’m scared it won’t live up to my expectations...
Time to pull off that plaster.
Digging: Bark Psychosis - Codename: Dustsucker
It was unexpected for me and that worked
Yeah it’s decent instrumentally, I’m not completely on board with the vox though.
From what I hear they're tuned in E now, which is half a step down from their previous stuff. This automatically darkens the register somewhat and would be consistent with DiSanto's vocal cords not being up to the usual shrieking challenge anymore.
Bass is really heavy as well.
If this is material being released as part of a split EP, then I’m hoping they have more up their sleeve for the solo stuff. If so I wouldn’t say this is discouraging, as long as they can make the vox work.
the vocals are not the weakest part, they sound like some german 80s stuff almost
Yay, music is being discussed.
I'd say technically this is up to par, only they're not stepping out of their comfort zone as far as songwriting is concerned, no adventurous stuff there. Aesthetically this is a bit bland compared to their previous stuff. They should be capable of more.
agreed, dude. The scope of Terminal Redux in songwriting and storytelling was pretty massive, so where do you go from there? I'd be happy with an Outer Isolation part II tbh
allegations (plural noun)
a claim or assertion that someone has done something illegal or wrong, typically one made without proof.
Yeah, if anyone has any actual hard evidence of the stuff it is claimed that he did besides the original video of him throwing a pillow and punching a wall, please share it with everyone. Actually try to ya know, convince people who are skeptical; and not just demand everyone fall in line with a principle of believing all accusations.
welcome to 2020 man, things don't just go away these days, not saying they should or shouldn't but it's the reality we live in.
"It happened, hopefully he was punished, he repented, and he will never do it again."
when you have to preface that with "hopefully", your point is moot.
3.5 at best
they sound like havok
Digging: Growth (AUS) - The Smothering Arms Of Mercy
I got havok vibes too from the new song, not what I was expecting
>they sound like havok
so more like 2.0 at best then?
Generic Vektor is still pretty solid.
vocals are terrible
Abuse aside, this song is also really fucking disappointing. Seriously, I’m kinda shocked that this is the same band that put out those other records. As stated above, it basically sounds like a shitty Havok clone trying to imitate Vektor
The new vox should make it more stomachable for all those Metallica fans that kept bitching about the vox earlier
Also, for anyone wondering how this sounds like Havok, just listen to the first 30 seconds of their song Point of No Return
more like vekturd
damn necrotica you know your thrash
you are right btw, obv
Yeah, thrash is one of my favorite metal genres :]
well you'll be happy to anticipate the list i've got cooking then :]
wow of all the Vektor songs people would want to die on this hill for yall are choosing this one huh
u mean the defeners?
Too bad this guy turned out to be an abusive cunt
Like if you can separate it that’s tight you do you but this band was always 3/5 territory for me so it’s easier to just not support them lol 
Song is meh at best anyways, pre content just forgetting about this band tbh
Come on Darius we all know ur degenerate as fuck
I've only really listened to Black Future more than once and Asteroid is the only track that stayed in rotation. Saw them live and they played Terminal in full and I yelled Asteroid in the voice and got them to do it as the encore. I was happy about that although dude does seem like a real jerk based on reading this thread. That said I do like this song quite a bit. Something just clicked with me and I'm a sucker for prominent bass in metal.
Digging: Burial (MA) - Enlightened With Pain
They 5 murderers albums but diss on Vektor because of a pillow fight.
Let's talk about music here, we don't care about your BS opinions on their personal lives.
Anyway, song is cool. Not their best obviously but you can hear there's much more going on than in most bands songs still.
Can't wait for the full release tbh. Even if it's not as good as Black Future or Terminal Redux, it sounds like it's going to be good.
Murder and church burning is just so much more m/
what's it like living in that alternate universe, fae
there's a lot more to it than a "pillow fight", but you know that, Dave.
I forgot about this track. As I mentioned above I don't really return to any of the Vektor albums but upon jamming again I think this is probably my favorite of their songs. Bass here is so nasty and I enjoy the fretwork a ton. Especially the end of that solo