I never really listened to periphery but that album subtitle isn't doing them any favors lol

Bring back KILL for this plz

Slaps

These tracks have a lot of the weakest element of their sound, which is that heavy djent chugging/riffing. Immediately bored by that stuff. Spencer's harsh vocals aren't strong enough to add much to sections like that and we end up with lame guitar work AND boring vocals. Hate to see it after how good the last album was.

Wildfire rules
The other one, super meh

I'm glad they're continuing in the direction of Periphery IV, this rules.

Awful album title though, but that's to be expected lmao.

periphery fucking suck jeez

Durrzo even IV is bad what the hell man, shitty shitty taste

Nah, Hail Stan slaps.

Didn't feel these songs on a first listen. PIV was superb though

"Nah, Hail Stan slaps."
literally how lol, everything you said negative about these new tracks IV also has

justify your opinion immediately !!

On some tracks yeah but on the better ones that style is a very small piece of the overall experience and is rarely the driving factor. Blood Eagle is an exception where that sound is at the forefront which is why I think that song sucks.

queef

the mindless chugs are the best part, it's when they try to make a pop song that I tune out

I'll pick a track like It's Only Smiles over a track like Blood Eagle 10/10 times.

Bring KILL back [2]

He stops in every so often, this is his moment to shine though

"You like the gay cleans more than the riffs?"

Yes. That's exactly what I said. Jesus I'm defending my opinion to a 10 year old what am I doing with my life

Spencer's vocals have improved so much, I honestly find much of Periphery's early work unlistenable. I think his cleans and harsh vocals are both very good now.

yes, even when the notes he's hitting are gay

i like that one chord they find in wildfire at like 2m 30s everything else sounds like if sikth were boring

The style doesn't really matter imo, PIV just had really well written songs

2 minutes into wildfire and I'm bored to death already

like always with this band

Wildfire is so fucking cool. Probably some of their heaviest stuff, yet there's also a sax solo?!? exactly why I love these dudes. Zagreus was a little boring to me though, I find that the older I get the less interested I am in Spencer's clean vocal style (and lyrics)

if 1:11 on Wildfire doesn't make you hard then you have a stick up your butt. go back to listening to godspeed you black emperor

listening now

ngl wildlife is kinda mid and woulda been easily the worst track on p4 besides crush

Wildfire was awesome with nice vox. Zyglrox Pt II was just okay. Missing those Bowen electronic interludes though

alright now zagreus is my shit

12 days into 2023 and Wildfire has taken the crime crown for worst songwriting of the year

Zagreus is somewhat better but um, still definitely a Periphery song

Wildfire is sick AF, can't wait to hear zagreus next

lol this website gets so dumb whenever new periphery drops. it triggers something really weird and sad within most of you

well ACTCHUALLY you need an incredibly high IQ to pick up the binaural encapsulations of small dick energy erected by the double-mic placement on the Periphery kick drum

if you're out of that loop, so much the better for you

whhhoaaaa I thought the problem was the songwriting and not the double mic placement on the kick?? :-[

my knee jerk reaction is these songs aren't nearly as polished as p4 and spencer kinda sounds out of sync in the same way he does on the first album... i.e. feels like they wrote these instrumentals without vocals in mind

will probably grow on me tho lol i did hate p3 and p4 initially as well

maybe rock and roll not kill?

ghost note kick drum binaural asmr sounds like a good idea someone should do that

we can problematise the things that aren't there or we can focus on the ones that are

will be here all day

@alexkzillion I've kinda noticed that also
Not noticing the synchronization is pretty unprofessional

"spencer kinda sounds out of sync in the same way he does on the first album... i.e. feels like they wrote these instrumentals without vocals in mind"

oh damn, you're 100% right. Couldn't put my finger on it but that's it. Sometimes he comes out of nowhere with clean vocals and a really odd/boring melody choice that doesn't fit at all

https://youtu.be/8fqB55QBuT4

this is nice. ECM should take notes

I missed Spencers lows, but he doesn't sound half on this.
It was just the timing.
Also, that 8-bit achoo hits HARD

"Also, that 8-bit achoo hits HARD" [69]

mfw new periphery https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrHxP86ptc4

not sure it sounds PROFESSIONAL enough to really be priffy

woah just realized 2:58 of zagreus is the four lights riff over a blast beat lmao that's tight

I HAVE BEEN ADEQUATELY FAN SERVICED THANK YOU MISHA

Chorus of Wildfire is the same melody as The Event, fanservice everywhere.

Better have juns and dweedles

yeah there's at least 3-4 callbacks to Jugg on these tracks. Fun little easter eggs

Yeah there are many callbacks to Juggernaut on these. Stranger Things' pre-chorus as well.

Better have Juggies Pt2 in this album somewhere

Zagreus blowz yeah

djent is not a genre is just a goofy diversion to shield us from the fact that this is a juggernaut sequel confirmed 😳😳😳

is a djent band doing epic junz really a callback to an earlier song with epic junz or is it just what they do in every song?

Yeah this is definitely Juggernaut II

For a Periphery fan like me who loved Juggernaut and P4, these songs fucking SLAP

@Dizchu. To claim that Periphery does the same thing in every song is provably false. Hail Stan was the best proof of that.

Juggernaut sequel would not be just fanservice callbacks lol, it would have its own story and all that, this is just a nod to Juggernaut nothing more

Also looks like track lengths dropped for the whole album:

1. Wildfire (7:05)
2. Atropos (8:23)
3. Wax Wings (7:26)
4. Everything is Fine! (5:07)
5. Silhouette (4:51)
6. Dying Star (5:17)
7. Zagreus (8:19)
8. Dracul Gras (12:21)
9. Thanks Nobou (11:16)

Total length: 70 minutes

lots of very long songs lol did not expect that... figured these two singles were probably as long as we were getting

Probably a stretch to call it a sequel yeah but enjoying the nods all the same.

Wonder if that’s Chris on the sax

Reptile and Racecar are two of Periphery's best songs and they're each over 15 minutes long. I think they're better at writing long songs than short ones.

@AlexKzillion that's exciting!

Dracul Gras = Fat Dracula, this is so dumb haha

Zagreus is fun, but Wildfire takes the cake it's literally fire

Need more Racecar type of instrumentals instead of the new chug chug material

Reptile and Omega my dude

agreed snauze... its maybe (probably) just the track selection but both these songs feel very misha, especially wildlife. none of those atmospheric leads from jake or angular all over the neck weird chord riffs from mark.

they told us djent is not a genre but they just dropped two of their most djent-y songs in like a decade

^ Hard agree with all of this.

these will hit hard in the gym

On first listen, Spencer's lyrics have improved slightly. On second listen the music is stronger. Definitely two of their less accessible songs which I'm fine with. If those are the teasers for the album I wonder if we're going to see less pop-driven moments.

Man Wildfire is one of the worst Periphery songs I’ve ever heard which is mad unfortunate. Zagreus fucking comes tho

Hoping Wildfire is the weirdest song on the record - if the rest of the album sounds like that I will be so sad

*cums

"Man Wildfire is one of the worst Periphery songs I’ve ever heard which is mad unfortunate"
my dude what song did you just listen to exactly. you've heard Catch Fire before right? lol

I'm torn on both of these tracks after listening to each a few times. The mix sounds muddier than P:IV, and on Wildfire especially, doesn't feel super cohesive. It's like they just threw a bunch of ideas together and said good enough. Zagreus is just kinda forgettable. I don't know, maybe they'll grow on me but I expected the quality of Hail Stan and I'm not sure it's there yet.

Wildfire is pretty shit.

Zagreus is just okay. The build is weird, feels like it's still climbing and then the vocals just drop out and the song is basically over. Then there's that insanely long outro which just seems tacked on.

Both tracks feel amateurish in a lot of ways which is just so bizarre given how strong the writing on IV was.

Yea, Catch Fire sucked

“"spencer kinda sounds out of sync in the same way he does on the first album... i.e. feels like they wrote these instrumentals without vocals in mind"

oh damn, you're 100% right. Couldn't put my finger on it but that's it. Sometimes he comes out of nowhere with clean vocals and a really odd/boring melody choice that doesn't fit at all”

Literally this is essentially true for all of Periphery’s material besides IV for me which is one reason I don’t vibe lol. Spencer’s stuff just doesn’t mesh

"The build is weird, feels like it's still climbing and then the vocals just drop out and the song is basically over. Then there's that insanely long outro which just seems tacked on."

agree with this too... both songs had like three endings lol

these songs are messy and frustrating and a step back from the last one!

also agreed that spencer is bad at coming up with patterns over their riffs and its especially visible on wildfire

I personally think both of these songs are solid. Instumentally, I love them both, but there are moments in both songs where Spencer seems out of place particularly in the clean sections. Understandable though as it would be tough to write catchy melodies with the way these songs are structured. I'm excited to see how the rest of the album turns out. Already shaping up to be better than P3.

Both songs bad and IV is too bahaha

Sugar Horse dropped a song called Fat Dracula this week too. What's the relevance there?

liked Zagreus, nice hook, feels big
Wildfire chorus kinda meh and it feels far from coherent as a whole but there are some cool things going on.

He hites the notes but the notes themselves are gay.

I feel like everyone here turns into a 14 year old redditer when Periphery music drops

Ceci n'est pas un djent

"He hites the notes but the notes themselves are gay."

Yes, that's what I'm saying @DePlazz, so deep and moving bro, hell yeah

I think Blood Eagle went harder as a lead single but these two songs still slap. Wildfire is a bit messy but has a lot of cool ideas going on. The sax and piano were cool touches imo but I'm sure many will disagree

Zagreus would be one of their best songs ever without the drawn out, tacked on outro.

Little bit of trim on these songs and they would definitely stack up to P4

I dig both songs but the nods to the Juggernaut albums makes me want true sequels even more.

I'm actually digging this song for a lot of the reasons why people aren't. Spencer's vocals are really solid on this and his use of dissonance in the clean sections is super sick. The music isn't structured in some sort verse chorus verse chorus structure which has been one of my bigger gripes with some of the band's recent songs. The saxophone and funky groove around 5:30 of "Wildfire" still runs along side the rhythm of the main riff. The only thing that disappoints me about both songs is it feels like the symphonic stuff is tacked on as an outro instead of being a layer included within the main structure of the song.

The more I'm listening to them the more I'm hyped for this album.

Wildfire video:
http://youtu.be/pFKSiOkRzb4

Matt not wearing a hat or V-Neck? Fake video.

I’ll concede that both songs are a little messy, but it’s odd to see people complaining about the tacked on endings when Periphery has been doing that since the beginning. Usually it’s more of an electronic/atmospheric outro, but still, they do this all the time. Those parts usually make more sense in the context of the full album, and of course they aren’t going to just release a “single” version that cuts the interlude

"they aren’t going to just release a “single” version that cuts the interlude"

I'm so glad we moved past this trend. I always hated that.

Electronic interludes rule, piano interludes drool

Needs more Jake Bowen electronics agreed

luv them

Wildfire is fun, what y'all on about. The guitars sound like anti-aircraft rifles what's not to love?

give these guys credit, they were a meme for a long time

I subscribe to the idea that they can be a meme and absolutely kick ass simultaneously

Dug both of these a whole lot more on 3rd spin. They may rope me in

Yeah Wildfire is awesome honestly. Not understanding the complaints at all. That Fredrik Thordendal solo near the middle is mint

Wildfire slaps yeah

That Wildfire interlude sounds like the Gran Turismo 3 menu music.

Lol who listens to Wildfire and goes “this sucks”.

You weird fuckers

yeah he hits the notes but the notes themselves are gay

I really don't mind Spencer tbh

Love him or hate him the fucker can sing

"You weird fuckers"

Yup that about sums it up

I like both tracks, but don’t love either. Interested to see how it all shapes up, but honestly prepped to be disappointed after these two songs.

I do love that Periphery seems to have the most dedicated haters of all time, though. Like, no other band releases new material and people who have hated the band since their first album come out of the weeds to say that they still hate them. Lol

lmao so true. how many y'alls girlfriends did Misha sleep with?

These songs give me btbam vibes a bit with the weird out of genre parts and lack of actual transitions. Some hits and some misses in the riffs, IMO, but overall not bad. The choruses of both songs feel tacked on as shit like they have to hit their singalong chorus quota rather than organically writing the songs

Yea, that's why this doesn't feel like a continuation of P:IV at all

yeah wildlife in particular shoulda been nearly all harsh vox like blood eagle and follow your ghost. the shoehorned choruses do not fit the vibe or the structure of the rest of the song at all

It feels like they’re trying too hard to be prog for the sake of being prog too on that wildlife chorus. The rapid key changes sound legit bad

I’m trying to hear Matt halpern play jazz drums in literally every periphery song from here on out though, hit me with it

^ agree they should do that more

I like both of these songs. Jazz section in Wildfire is cash money.

"The rapid key changes sound legit bad"

This is one of the coolest parts of the song. It's literally "The Event" from Juggernaut.

This is the first time their songs actually clicked for me (which was always weird to me since I love bands like Meshuggah, Tesseract, Monuments for example...)

Wildfire especially, very dynamic and heavy. This dissonant clean singing might be influenced by latter Daryl Palumbo too.

okay yeah wildfire chorus was supremely off putting at first but its grown on me a tonnnnn spencer really is one of the goat metal vocalists and im done pretending otherwise

I didn't notice any callbacks tbh.
Any examples?

Chorus to "Wildfire" is the exact same melody as "The Event".

0:40 in "Wildfire" is the same bridge as the pre-chorus in "Stranger Things".

2:57 in "Zagreus" is same as the main riff in "Four Lights".

Those are the ones I noticed.

Okay, I'll check it out
These are parts of Juggernaut I don't really care for apart from Stranger Things, so I guess that's why I didn't notice

Also somewhere around 0:40 on Wildfire, identical to the part near the end of Stranger Things

Wonder if we'll ever get to Periphery 56: Now, That's What I Call Music.

they desperately need to break from the numbered thing, more like Juggernaut please

Like always the title of the album is absolutely awful but Wildfire was great and the Jazz part was a welcome change for Periphery. Don't understand the hate for this band the singles were good and a improvement of their previous stuff.