I wonder if it's as terrible as everything they've released after The Fall of Ideals?

Wow didnt even know these guys were still together

No Knock was good, but this is just bad. Really, really bad. I've liked some of their past poppier stuff too. But this is just bad songwriting.

My god, not that they were insanely technical before but talk about dumbing down your style.

As if they couldn't get more generic...this is embarassing.

Shit That Remains

Well, at least the song title is accurate.

That title...

This band went from releasing a hell of a melodic metalcore record in 2006 to being a laughing stock for the past 3-4 years with these albums.

Not their worst song

*Nu metal/Mainstream sellouts

The music is pretty solid and tight, but he just doesn't have the voice for all clean vocals. They worked well when used sparingly with screaming.

lame as fuck. still probably better than anything off AWYCW

I like how it suggests to listen to Kelly Clarkson after the song ends.

Jesus Macey his vocals are bad. Like really really bad. Song is just boring, in every bad way possible.

I like how it suggests to listen to Kelly Clarkson after the song ends.

The song title matches my expectations perfectly.

After listening: Yupp.

For We Are Many had an excellent balance of the heavy/soft dynamic. They've fallen off a lot since
that release.

The current trend in popular metalcore is to go cleaner - something that isn't panning out too well.

biggest joke in metal

They should just go back to trying to be philswitch engage.

Ugh sounds like the song they'd play in the background of some B movie about a man returning home from the war

"The current trend in popular metalcore is to go cleaner"

it's been like that since KSE, it just got way fucking worse since then

So much irony......

it was really really average and then those processed cleans in the chorus hit and it got way too terrible

their lead guitarist has chops tho and the bald other guitarist has......muscles i guess

Really really boring, vocalist doesn't even sound like he's trying/gives a damn

Sucks ass.

i feel bad for these guys

Music is surprisingly not horrible, but the album will obviously suck. This Darkened Heart will always rule, if only Shannon Lucas had played on that one.

Band went from making one of the best melodic metalcore records (The Fall of Ideals) to one of the most generic bands in the scene today.

Ever since he became John cena lol

What even happened after The Fall of Ideals?

Clean vocals are incredibly lame.

For We Are Many was good but otherwise they've been falling off after the Fall of Ideals

I want to punch the singer in the dick.

^ Somebody already did it on this album and in the last couple ones...

I know it's not a popular opinion but for we are many is better then the fall of ideals. But we can all agree this new stuff sucks.

"I know it's not a popular opinion but for we are many is better then the fall of ideals. But we can all agree this new stuff sucks."

i can almost agree to that. i don't have as much nostalgia for TFOI and I think those two albums are about on the same level

The Fall of Ideals is by far their best, the rest ranges from meh to terrible

My cousin used to be into this band. Wow.

These guys are a mediocre metalcore band on their best of days and a generic butt rock band on their worst of days. This is their worst of days.

Am I the only one who thinks that minus the vocals, this song is half-way decent musically?

It doesn't sound awful like their last album but they're obviously capable of waaaaay more. And yeah, vocals blow.

Musically it is awful. They are just trying so hard to be radio stars. They don't give a flying fuck about us anymore.