Well, that was awful. Points for the appropriate song title.

Would still hit it

Haha

Looks like the song is self-titled.

Pretty good rapping, just a pretty obnoxious chorus. She needs the sexier personality, tho.

inb4 RAH RAH RAH SHITTY POP SHE'S SUCH A TRASHY SLUT RAH RAH

RAH RAH RAH SHITTY POP SHE'S SUCH A TRASHY SLUT RAH RAH

oh and inb4 unfunny jokes of "HAHAHAHAHA I GUESS SHE DESCRIBES HERSELF WITH THE SONG TITLE HAHAHAHAH"--woops, too late

i h8 u

The only thing she should rap is her thighs around my torso

"Would still hit it"

And this is why she's going to continue to stay relevant, ruining as many guest spots as possible by milking the same wide-eyed bubblegum strut out of her giant silicon tits, no matter how bad the music gets.

^^ How was it Garbage? I don't like Pink Friday at all and the rapping in this wasn't bad whatsoever.

"BECAUSE IT'S CORPORATE MAINSTREAM BULLSHIT"

didn't click, knew it'd be bad

I think at some parts she tries too hard to be her "quirky self" mainly with the "you a stupid stupid ho" and the crazy voices part, but I stand by that the rest of the song is pretty good and the production is, to.

Dude andcas how can you even delete your comments like that?

...but I stand by that the rest of the song is pretty good and the production is, to.


Are you stupid.

lol gtfo. nicki minaj could rap "I gotta ass!" in her high pitched
voice for the whole song over a kazoo and you'd fucking love it.

Not enough songs have kazoo man

@andcas: lol what are you even taking about? It's due to the fact that the rapping she did had
genuinely clever wordplay and rhyme schemes.

@zary: No, why?

Lol, gabe. Your gimmick is getting stale.

this was one of the most annoying things I've heard

The kazoo song that andcas made me audiolize(lol) was 1000x better than this


p.s. you stupid a hoe stupid stupid hoe

would rather listen to this on a loop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oau9gtG5Om8

@AsoTamaki: What gimmick

@andcas: Everywhere. Did you just hear none of the lyrics but the "you a stupid ho" part?

Basically, I think the song is good except it tries way way way too hard to have that "Nicki Minaj wacky girl" quality so some parts where she puts on voices or drag on words gets annoying. She did the "wacky personality" right in her feature on Big Sean's ASS Remix but didn't rap well on it but now that she's actually rapping well she pull it off in an ugh way.

maybe.

That guy's a kazoo slayer

"I get it crackin’ like a bare back"

"Cause I pull up and I’m stuntin’ but I ain’t a stuntman
Yes I’m rockin’ Jordan but I ain’t a jumpman
Bitches play the back cause they know I’m the front man
Put me on the dollar cause Im who they trust in"

"Hey yo, baby, fuck you and your EP
Who’s gassin’ this hoe? BP?"

she got a donk

TOLD HIM THAT PUSSY CLEAN
TOLD HIM THAT PUSSY SQUEAKY

but no yeah she's got an ass for dayyyys mayne.

ya this song pretty much sucks.

she rules

I'd hit her...in the face with a brick.

What a turd of a song/artist.

Anything I can do to give back to the pharmaceutical companies by causing lung cancer, andcas.

love this track. lol sputnik

"she has more dislikes than likes so obviously it's not just me."

the best logic

I have never wanted to cause self-harm.

I do now.

love this track.

welp!

@andcas: I'm pretty sure the dislikes are due to a "raid" or some dumb thing since it appears to be mostly Lil Kim fans (this is a Lil Kim diss) or people saying "This is worse than Massive Attack" or "This is worse than Adele"

ahahahaha that was so good / beat is raw as fuck / i'd drop this in a set / not as good as A$$ though

really, though. watch this clip and listen to this track and tell me this girl doesn't have charisma.

like i don't give a shit about her ass but her "obnoxious persona" persona is strangely intoxicating. although the barbie bullshit borders on creepy sometimes – but hey, that's just one reason why she's interesting

@Calculate: A$$ was dope as fuck, mayne.

@conrad: Yeah, her personality shining through is a part of what makes her music so captivating and enjoyable, but at a certain point it can get grating. Like I said before, her feature on A$$ was a great example of her using the persona well. And on Kanye's Monster, of course.

i like when she sings

doesn't change the fact that using public opinion to objectively defend your point that something is terrible is stupid

the public is so often wrong

""the best logic" even her diehards think this is horrendous con."

ya but dude literally like 75% of the hate is Lil Kim supporters.

"a lot of people think this is worse than her other stuff so therefore it must be bad"

i mean if this is really how your critical faculties operate i don't know what to say or how you expect to convince others of your opinion? which you don't have to do! but you're citing the dislike/like bar as an example which indicates that you feel others should agree with you which just isn't the case

"ya but dude literally like 75% of the hate is Lil Kim supporters."

EVERYBODY IS MISSING THE POINT

also lil kim is pretty awesome so i wish the two fanbases would stop being fucking idiots

blah anyways fun track

"this song is honestly horrible"

funny i find it falsely terrible! funny how things work

ya but dude literally like 75% of the hate is Lil Kim supporters.

What? lil kim hasn't been around for years, how does she still have fans?

@conrad: I wasn't giving the like/dislike bar credibility, I was just telling him how even that wasn't a good argument.

but hey, different strokes for different stroke patients or something like that.

"What? lil kim hasn't been around for years, how does she still have fans?"

Same reason trashy white kids will still be armed at the teeth to defend Eminem's later, shittier stuff.

"What? lil kim hasn't been around for years, how does she still have fans?"

Same reason trashy white kids will still be armed at the teeth to defend Eminem's later, shittier stuff."

Though Eminem continues to sell records, Lil Kim, not so much. So not really.

@conrad

Oh yes, she has charisma and a unique style, but the song sucks.

all of her music is trash

Who would be the other one, andcas?

I honestly don't know much about the female side of hip-hop beyond a certain group but I don't think
many rappers before her have done this. Pop stars, yeah but not rappers.

Mayyybe Missy Elliott?

Oh damn andcas called it.

the blinky parts of that made me lol

"Smell Yo Dick" was better title wise.

dat booty

'blah anyways fun track'

oh cmon Conrad :/

I used to think that she could turn into the first great female rapper but noooooo

The sad thing is her verse on Kanye's 'Monster' was actually quite promising. She can clearly be a talented rapper, but
evidently wastes it all on shockingly terrible pop videos and ass implants.

Horrible song. Obnoxious rapping, obnoxious chorus, obnoxious beat, obnoxious everything.

A$$ was equally as terrible, but this has less ass and no interesting sample thrown in.

i enjoyed listening to this
i did not enjoy watching

The sad thing is her verse on Kanye's 'Monster' was actually quite promising. She can clearly be a talented rapper, but
evidently wastes it all on shockingly terrible pop videos and ass implants. [2]

The sad thing is her verse on Kanye's 'Monster' was actually quite promising. She can clearly be a talented rapper, but
evidently wastes it all on shockingly terrible pop videos and ass implants [3]

Just like Kesha . . .

She needs to gtfo.

At the end she claims to be the female Wheezy which is an accurate statement because yes, she indeed sucks just as bad as he does.

"She needs to gtfo."

actually;
Tits or GTFO

IM THE FEMALE WEEZY!!!

fuck this bitch.

seriously awesome

rap SotY

man i could have scripted this thread before it happened. you guys are way predictable

romulus you do agree that this song/music video is awesome though right

"A$$ was equally as terrible, but this has less ass and no interesting sample thrown in."
I didn't say she rapped amazingly well on A$$, but her "quirky" personality shone brilliantly on it without getting obnoxious.

"Horrible song. Obnoxious rapping, obnoxious chorus, obnoxious beat, obnoxious everything."
The pre-chorus is pretty well put-together and the rapping itself is well done. The beat isn't amazingly complex but it's kind of weird, really glossy and enjoyable.

One of the worst songs I've listened to in a while, solely based on the chorus. If she didn't take it seriously, neither do I. Has the staying power of any Weird Al song.

I hate this because it isn't backpack rap.

this is why i hate the world.

Hot black chicks being eccentric?

oh jesus fucking christ i actually feel sick listening to this shit.

Racist.

it would actually be even more cringy if she was white

I just watched the music video for that song ass, and she did that thing with her ass that those bitches did from the wal mart rap
gross

wally wally wally wally wally wally world

i think y'all r ghey

So fucking annoying. Plus her 'kooky' style makes it more obvious when she recycles lines or hooks.

She can only do guest spots.

Can't stand her and the other tools from young money.

^^
Yeah I guess they can't be as good as Milo.

Milo gets chased by student loans.

yeah descendents is way too underground for gabe

The Descend-who?

you two should just fight and get it over with

"don't worry. it's not obnoxious or void of talent. not your bag."

...
then why would anyone listen to it? That sounds awful.

"it's wrong to beat on girls or in this case homosexuals."
because you're scared of the feelings you have for me that might inflame if you touched my soft, supple skin.

Guys

take your mildly disturbing arguments somewhere else please

like in BED

Can't be spammin up the Nicki Minaj articles, they're essential to Sputnik.

Song/video are as entertaining and ballsy as expected.

A+

Just watched this again. Record company is out of its mind for letting this train wreck see the light of day.

Song/video are as entertaining and ballsy as expected.

A+

you better fucking be trollin

I didn't click on the link expecting some high profile song (considering the song title), I expected to be entertained and I was.

I expected to relive my lunch and I did

does that mean it's a good song

It's not a good song by any means, but 'twas enjoyable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l72ENC-s9A

gabe you defend literally the worst pop artists.

She gets my props for being able to make a song worse than 'Super Bass', I didn't think she was ever going to succeed in squandering her rapping talent even more

guess I was wrong

lol sputnik.

your conception of 'good music' is so stereotypically white heterosexual male

which isn't to say that disliking nicki minaj automatically puts you into that category but seriously guys c'mon, snap out of your clearly defined boxes for just one moment

that fuckin Bon Iver album wasn't even GOOD!!!!! ha!!!

it's as if the concept of a high-budget act being self-aware and essentially forcing YOU as the audience to realize the shallowness of the act totally escapes you

@bringonthebreakdown: I don't even like her pop, though. Except for maybe that one song with Drake but that was still hardly wasn't even pure "pop".

@Ty: Yeah, I was hoping Super Bass would actually have this pounding bass in the music and I was disappointed. This is wayyyyy better than Super Bass, though.

also this is so much better than anything on pink friday. like roman's revenge if it were good.

her vids are what nightmares are made of. i'd hit it if she took off all the crazy clown makeup tho

i'm so happy for you andcas

lol at all the "I'd hit it" comments. she is not designed to be attractive.

Dear Mr. Tao, I have always defended you and your tastes but now you're seriously pushing it. I have always tried to like Nicki Minaj because it was obvious that she's a talented rapper but the fact that 90% of her debut 'Pink Friday' was filled with obnoxious pop shit (don't get me wrong, I do like pop but not the 'supersweet & girly' or whatever is is she does kind). The fact that she continues to piss me off with terrible beats, shit production and godawful lyricism is fucking pissing me off and I can't hide it, I'm thorougly disappointed in her for being just another pop artist for whom I had high hopes but she just decided to raise her middlefinger towards me.

So yes Mr. Tao, I am fucking mad at her right now.

PS: Oh and yeah that Bon Iver album was seriously overrated.

Her "lyricism"? Did you expect her to be rapping about the problems on the streets? Her lyrics in this one are pretty dope.

also I can't wait for that Nicki Minaj x Clams Casino mixtape.

@andcas: You can be a satire and still be good. See: Roadrunner/Coyote cartoons which were originally a satire on the extreme violence of the Tom and Jerry cartoons.

'Her lyrics in this one are pretty dope.'

dafuq


I get it crackin’ like a bag bag?
Bitch talkin she the queen, when she looking like a lab rat
I’m Angelina, you Jennifer
C’mon bitch, you see where Brad at

You call this dope?

i don't think she's purposely trying to suck. but in the same way that ke$ha's music is weirdly astute, nicki's stuff often pokes fun at her disposition AND the fact that people buy into that. to me, that's more convincing than the many acts that try to act either coolly distant or embody the worst traits of whiny western pop/rock.

and here's the thing; i don't think the repeated "you a stupid hoe" really is godawful lyricism, because it's such a shallow insult that its constant repetition becomes (a) ironic and (b) slightly self-referential given the goofy, over-the-top image she and young money present.

This bullshit blows

but man

that beat must be one of the worst things I have ever heard

fucking obnoxious

i realize that not everyone is convinced by self-awareness ...in fact, a lot of people feel like it's a cop-out. i get that. but it's hard to call this "objectively" bad.

super bass rules guys what the hell

"did you just compare iconic toons to nicki minaj? rage filing"
Well they are comparable so yes I did.

@Tyraelxy: bare back*
also, what's necessarily bad about them? And she has great wordplay (as you can see me quoting above) and the weirdness of the lyrics is just kind of surreal to a point. I mean what did you really expect?

"super bass rules guys what the hell"

yeah this, one of my favorite pop jams from last year

but in other words i fucking hate rockism because it's borne of the worst kind of music elitism, the one that argues for some impartial standard of quality

"she makes shallow shitty music for shallow shitty ppl. agreed."
How does liking music that might be shallow make the people that enjoy it shallow? idk u people are weird.

"you might as well defend icp and design the skyline with the same argument you're stretching for here. makes about as much sense to me."

sure, why not? i have ethical issues with icp but as a cultural phenomenon they're notable (their status as a meme takes precedence over their validity as musicians, though, which makes me question their actual value)

i think of this track as almost subversive or something, fyi. this might sound like my bending backwards to make something "work" but i think its insistence on being devoid of what we usually associate with "great pop hits" makes it sort of circle back around to being awesome. it's...bizarre

^^
That's basically a big part of the appeal for me. But I think it made the whole "make it so weird that it works" thing was missed by a smidge since there are still some pretty cringeworthy parts here and apparently it went way over the public's head.

yeah it's the tiniest tiniest bit too over-the-top, but hey that's why you hire hype williams to do your video

"this is why popular music keeps getting dumber."

this is why there will always be people who insist on the existence of golden ages, despite the fact that they don't and never will exist.

YEAH MUSIC ON THE RADIO IS GARBAGE NOWADAYS NOT LIKE BACK IN THE GOOD OLD DAYS WITH MEANINGFUL MUSIC EVERYWHERE, THIS IS BECAUSE OF SOCIETY AND STUPIDITY AND SONGS ABOUT SUBJECT MATTERS I DON'T LIKE SHOULD BE BANNED BECAUSE THEY'RE THE CAUSE OF ENTROPY SINCE I DON'T LIKE THEM.

@conrad: I don't know, people just really love their rose-tinted glasses though don't they?

this thread is shit

^^ aren't you the guy who likes Hopsin?

@andcas: The I wanna watch you suck his dick line was probably made for humor but I'd sincerely doubt it's satire.

Spent more time scrolling down this page than listening to that crap.

Or it could be more like, "WHAT DO YOU MEAN WIZARD OF OZ WAS SYMBOLISM FOR POLITICAL ISSUES IN THE 1800S? IT WAS OBVIOUSLY ABOUT THEM TRYING TO GET TO A WIZARD TO TAKE DOROTHY BACK HOME, DUNKASS"

Conrad -

You've twice characterized the dislike of Nicki Minaj as a "western" attitude (once, a "white male heterosexual" attitude) in this thread.

What makes you think Nicki Minaj is not herself reinforcing these western/white, male heterosexual conventions?
I won't pretend to know much about her music, but from the lyrics I've heard and the way she presents herself, it certainly seems she is.
Even her last line about being the "female Wheezy" is problematic in that it defines her by a male standard.

Or is this all being done ironically? If so, I'm not so sure of its value, especially when it goes over the heads of most people, apparently.

I heard Adele's next single is called "Fat Cunt"

"What makes you think Nicki Minaj is not herself reinforcing these western/white, male heterosexual conventions?"

i'm quite sure she is. which, yes, calls certain ethics into question, but in my view exploitation of these conventions is sometimes more effective than trying to actively change them.

I heard Adele's next single is called "Fat Cunt"

also it's worth noting that this is a pretty funny parody of the quintessential diss track

^ fair enough. not the first time i've heard that used as a counterargument – "oh you're just assuming that because i'm white/heterosexual/male/etc i'm wrong" – but if that's your train of thought i don't know what to say

"i'm quite sure she is."

Oh, okay... That's settled, then.

or let's really get inflammatory and say that this whole attitude that the song being somehow worse because it appropriates demeaning insults traditionally used by men to debase women is the

exact

same

thing

as when people say that women dressing "like sluts" equates "asking for" rape or sexual assault

which is so clearly wrong.

but that's another conversation, i suppose.

That...was...I don't even know. I couldn't even make it through the first chorus. That was literally one of the most annoying sounds I've ever heard in my life.

"or let's really get inflammatory and say that this whole attitude that the song being somehow worse because it appropriates demeaning insults traditionally used by men to debase women is the

exact

same

thing

as when people say that women dressing "like sluts" equates "asking for" rape or sexual assault

which is so clearly wrong."

Your troll is showing. Either that, your unbelievable stupidity.

it doesn't have to be a guilty pleasure, that's the thing! there's no objective standard of quality!

i'm quite sure she is. which, yes, calls certain ethics into question, but in my view exploitation of these conventions is sometimes more effective than trying to actively change them.

@conradtao: Slut walks are stupid and modern feminism is stupid.

@andcas: Not really. Just because we're actually discussing the song instead of going, "lol xD sux" doesn't mean we think it's this huge, amazing, deep effort. The fact that there are satirical elements really aren't hard to see and just a lot of it seems like your hatred for "trashy girl pop because it's not deep" or whatever clouds your judgement for seeing it for anything other than exactly that.

I don't think you hate all pop music. I don't genuinely know your opinion on every pop artist to exist but you do seem to have a bias towards female pop stars that are supposed to be "trashy" or something to you.

Yes gabe, i'm the guy who likes Hopsin. You dislike Hopsin yet ride all over Nicki Minajs' clit?

Consider me confused, no disrespect intended

and there's nothing wrong with you disliking this song. I'm not trying to say, "UGH IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS SONG YOU MUST CLEARLY HAVE A BIAS", because you just have a different opinions and that's the great thing about music (it being subjective) but I'm just saying it does cloud your judgement at times.

@Hospital: I don't. I've actually said multiple times I don't like much of her music, or at least I don't like Pink Friday.(I love her personality, though) I just happen to think this song is okay and not "OMG THE WORST THING I EVER HEARD AGGGHH MY EARS xDD"

Understandable, but have you ever considered that her personality is nothing more than an elaborate rouse/gimmick?

Seems to me like she's starting to go overboard with the Lady Gaga-esque barbie shit.

and I know Hopsin has his gimmicks... so don't backfire my comment towards me!

if that's the case don't let me ever catch you bashing others for music taste

So does her intention to further promote a white, male, heterosexual standard not matter then, just your reading of it as an unintentional "exploitation" of those conventions?

anyways, i'd love to continue this conversation since it's interesting, but i don't have time to

fair enough

@Hospital: Oh I'm pretty sure it's moderately fake. She's probably a sweet girl in real life, and she is kind of trying way too hard to be "quirky". But she does have a oddity (artificial or not) that's kind of appealing in it's own sense.

Well, in case you do find time later -

Previously, you said you were sure she was promoting white, male, heterosexual conventions, but now you say she's intentionally exploiting those conventions. I don't quite see how she can both be supportive of those conventions but also satirizing them without her schtick becoming problematic or, at least, confusing.
Of course, I don't think this is something that can be made clear without Minaj's own clarification, but since a lot of people are taking her at face value, I do take issue with it.

As far as criticisms of her - and other female popstars - go, yes, I would agree that anybody who brings her appearance (i.e. "ass implants", "silicon tits") into criticism of her music pretty much negates his entire argument, as it hinges on some kind of degradation of her as being hyper-sexual/"slutty".

I don't think Minaj can properly exploit the predominantly heterosexual conventions defining her status in the pop arena unless she also promotes them - that is, caters to them, however superficially. That's promoting those values in my view, even if it's done with the intention of subversion.

@gabe

Appealing to you, maybe! Completely repulsive to me Each to his/her own

I cant believe that no one addressed, "I an the female Weezy"!?

It was addressed, man. By me.

I must have read the comments too fast. sorry

why does this have so many comments?

garbage

That was fucking lame. This shit must end!

That was just obnoxious.

We are in January, but this is the best song of the year.

And, yes, i'm back. Nobody remembers me.

The monkey was the best part LOL

Ohhhhhh dear ,this is bullshit

I wanna touch that butt

singing about hoes while crawling around on all fours half naked.. I literally feel insulted watching it.

Ok, she's a guilty pleasure of mine. BUT, this is just plain BAD.

sex tape or GTFO

who gives a flying fuck.

"Stupid Hoe" sounds like a elegy to Spinal Tap's drummer.

well nicki wins again :P nice publicity guys

i rly dont mind this. conradtao is on to something.

yeah nickelback really coulda been somethin huh

You guys are all stupid gardening tools. Cultivate my earth motherfuckers.

F{HBSW_)GBH_)GHWE_)GHWGHW

Arguments are fun

ohhhh shit i love sequel albums! hopefully it'll be as good as The Blueprint III!

Wtf this news article has 2 pages???? I didn't know that was possible.

The misspelling of "ho" as "hoe" is one of my hugest pet-peeves for whatever reason. It's fucking stupid because it's just a slang-term regardless, but almost everybody does it.

oh my god its so bad

I still dig it.

"The misspelling of "ho" as "hoe" is one of my hugest pet-peeves for whatever reason. It's fucking stupid because it's just a slang-term regardless, but almost everybody does it."
Oh my god I'm the exact same. It's like "YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GARDENING TOOLS AND THERE'S NO E DIRECTLY AFTER THE O IN WHORE"

It's really fitting as a tongue-in-cheek way of saying "I'm legitimately a fucking idiot who doesn't know how words work AND I like dick all up in me."

man wtf i liked that verse she had on that wobblewobble tyga song...

man my wallet look like a bible.

Don't you mean Big Sean song?

Shit, I hadn't seen this before. FUCK YOU SPUTNIKMUSIC FOR DOING THIS TO ME.

awesome song












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