It's really terrible what happened to those people. Really terrible.
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Nice work on the banners mods
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Better than the half naked man sitting on the couch.
This sucks a lot. $20 says that the WBC is gonna come up with some bullshit reason for Haiti deserving the earthquakes.
Ironically enough, I am donating to them as we speak.
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Better than a Fat Mike Dressed up as a coked up clown
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Transaction complete. Good luck Haiti.
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R.I.P to all who died in this disaster, even though I am low on money I will donate towards this cause
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I am very saddened by this as my grandfather and parents have made many trips to Haiti through missions groups to help the people of Haiti.
Btw, I hope the mods police this thread.
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Still having a hard time grasping the amount of destruction over there.
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Me too man, it's pretty awful. This is a really honourable idea from you Dave and the rest of the staff, i'll make a small donation now.
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Pat Robertson really capitalized on this situation.
And yea, this is atrocious but the sheer devastation has not sunken in... this is truly a terrible tragedy : ( it deserves so much more time and thought than people are going to give it.
great idea, though.
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My dad went to Haiti for a while on a medical mission trip there to offer people free health care. Said the standard of living was absolutely terrible. I can't imagine what it's like now after those quakes.
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my parents' non-profit organization, YesWeServe, is also doing all they can to help Haiti in this tragic time.
http://www.yesweserve.com/
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Whenever a disaster like this initially happens, I just shrug it off. After I see pictures and hear stories is when I really sit back and go damn. Good luck to all those affected by this tragedy.
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Pat Robertson makes me sick.
i am going to try and donate, but i'm banking in Korea, hopefully i can still work something out
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I didn't even know that Haiti was on a fault line.
R.I.P everyone who died
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There are teams within the organization I volunteer for rendezvousing down to Haiti to help out; I'll tag along if I can rally up the transportation funds. It seems mother nature is prepared to wow us all with one supermassive, natural disaster crisis at least once every two years... the losses here and damage done are absolutely tremendous.
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pat robertson should be taken to the middle of the chaos in haiti and just left there to fend for himself
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That sucks.
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Agree with Celestial, if we're even going to be that kind to him. He should be forced (/politically guilt-tripped) to volunteer and work his ass off to make up for his comments.
Props and thanks to the mods for hosting the ads and promoting awareness of this; they need every bit and every cent of help that they can get.
My school's Architects Without Borders and Engineers Without Borders groups were down there last summer building housing (all of which has been completely destroyed in this, from what we've heard back so far). Looks like we'll be going back
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just contributed $25.00... i am sickened by what I hear of the poverty and devastation in Haiti and I pray that the people there attain at least as much stability and peace of mind as I and most of us can enjoy. RIP those who died and I wish for strength to the survivors
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This blows.
Pat Robertson is a fucking cunt
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1. At first glance at the title, I thought this was something about RHCP, shows how well I read.
2. I must be really out of it, I had no idea about this, I watch the news pretty regularly though, weird.
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Really tragic stuff.
Donated.
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What a horrible way to start off a decade, especially for one of the countries least likely to be able to come back from such a devastating event.
It really is hell over there right now, my friend's grandparents are over there and she has no way of telling if they're alive or dead.
RIP to all the dead and good luck to the people of Haiti.
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I agree, Pat Robertson needs to be shot.
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Will try to donate when I'm able.
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real cool of you guys to do this.
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someguest is right for once kinda
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500,000 is a ton of people, so sad.
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"That's really great of this country to pledge our money away. Hell, we'll just print more anyway"
that's the american way isn't it?
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the orphanage that a friends ministry runs got destroyed in the quake.
so tragic, will definately support in any way i can.
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Need the money? Yes. Just as much? Heeeeeeeeeeell to the fuckin' no.
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Are you fucking kidding me?
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I'm fucking pissed
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someguest is a moron bungy, dont let him get to you.
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Oh sorry someguest I didn't notice that America was one of the poorest nations in the world. Also, I didn't notice that hundreds of thousands of people's houses were just destroyed because of an earthquake and they have very little means of rebuilding their house. Dumbshit.
If I want to help other people then I'll help other people. Simple as that.
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Who said anything about Washington? If these donations were going through Washington they wouldn't get to Haiti until 2020.
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but much of the initial relief will have to be funded through private charities such as the International Red Cross, Doctors Without Borders and Partners In Health.
You see, D.C. is a city filled with contractors and Wale fans.
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Why do they have to have done something for you for you to help them? Nobody's gonna sit here and pull a "ok you have something I want I have something you want so lets trade at the same time in 3, 2, 1" like they did when they were 8. Most people aren't apathetic cocksuckers, you just manage to be the exception.
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"And? What has the Haitian government done for me?"
So you won't help hundreds of thousands of dying and homeless people in the, by far, poorest country in the entire western hemisphere. Right there you prove that you're the worst kind of selfish. They aren't going to do anything for you because they can't and why would they anyway?
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nice call y'all -- this is a good cause to support.
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Just sent $200 to the Australian Red Cross for Aid.
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They Haitians can't help and we don't need them to. Your argument sucks because I could've just posted my last comment again. It also sucks because, you're defending leaving tens of thousands of children who were already in poverty to find food now, with the capital obliterated and their homes in rubble and their father's head crushed underneath a stone....I can't believe I have to defend this. But we ARE in debt, gotta be smart ya know, cant be wasting money on helping people living and shit.
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Last sentence of bungy's latest comment is so win I about died.
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okay it's cool that people here are helping out but do you really need to say "I gave___ dollars" come on that's weak. are you just looking for a pat on the back?
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500,000 already confirmed dead, wow.
and someguest:
I didn't see the Haitians rushing to New Orleans when Katrina practically destroyed the area. Of course they wouldn't, that would be going against the political double-standard of America. Everyone hates us, but goddamnit, they sure do love our money.
and with what money would you expect Haiti to go rushing in to save New Orleans with? They are one of the poorest countries in the world. It's not about what they've done for you, it's about having some compassion. If every situation were handled with the thinking 'but what have they done for me?' we would be in a very sorry state of affairs.
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dammit someguest, can you be anything other than a fucking ignorant, selfish american?
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Honestly, and I know anyone can just say this, I would take 20 Haitians in. That would be so rewarding, and they would be so grateful. I bet tons of people would if it was that easy, until things got figured out.
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You aren't even close to being "required" to give aid. Most people don't.
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As the richest and most powerful nation in the world we have responsibilities that are both morally and economically correct.
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Someguest, you are literally the biggest internet cunt I've ever come across; not because you're being a non-sensitive douchebag 4chan-style, but because you clearly don't understand how heartless you actually are. Thousands upon thousands of people are suffering, starving, dying, whatever, and you're still thinking about yourself and the financial situation of the richest country in the world? Have some fucking compassion.
EDIT: After reading back over your "arguement", you might just be incredibly stupid.
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Too bad it isn't required that each person give aid.
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You got me. Fuck other people.
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Thousands? More like hundreds of millions. Even so, you can either support victims of the most threatening disasters or support no one at all.
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Was gonna help this little Hispanic man get some smoked salmon off the top shelf at Wal Mart, before I thought "This guy has
never given me aid before." I walked away leaving him helpless and salmonless. I have better things to spend my time doing.
That's why I had time to buy extra Lucky Charms, so I can eat it for breakfast and also lunch this next week.
What the fuck happened to my paragraph?
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There's thousands of people suffering both with or without a natural disaster everyday in every country in the world. You can't give money to everyone who has a problem. Be glad you have media outlets to choose which people you contribute to.
I agree with you to some extent, but it's all about triage. The situation in say, Ethiopia for example (or central Africa in general), isn't going to change overnight - it's an ongoing challenge and it's going to take years to improve the poverty, conditions of living, governmential systems, etc. On the other hand, donations towards aid for victims of natural disasters such as this can be utilised almost instantly through the purchasing of food, the contruction of temporary shelters and the like.
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someguest, you are the most ignorant individual i have ever come across. i see what you are trying to say, but you are attacking the completely wrong thing.
its always good to help others, if you dont think so, then you are a selfish bastard. now, there are plenty of people in our own country that are suffering and we usually just ignore them, but at least they get some form of help. even with the economy down and even if you are homeless, you are still going to get a way better standard of living in America than a helluva lot of people who have jobs in countries like Haiti. by common sense, they simply need help. forget the stupid self-absorbed politics you seem to cling to. i would like to see you go live there in a cardboard box and have what little you own and everything you care for disappear, while some idiot named Someguest says "fuck you". You cant monitor the world, and everyone has their own problems, but when something of this scale happens, at least THINK of helping. thats all I want. its not like people are coming to your door and raiding your house for money to contribute or some shit...
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As somebody who firsthand lives in a "developing nation" as a volunteer, basically everything someguest has said warrants a heavy dosage of sighs and groans. You're so full of shit this time around, don't know how you managed that... you act as if a collection of individuals pitching in funds from their own wallets will put America thousands of dollars in debt. It's even stranger that Dave came to you with factual statistics that veto everything you were arguing for but you still insisted on being objectively wrong (and subjectively heartless) from thereon out. Humble yourself for a second, how about.
You can't give money to everyone who has a problem.
But the people and places that you do give money to are affected positively by your donation. When building a house for a family in Mexico, we're asked - "poverty here is everywhere, how could you possibly make a difference by building one family a house when there are hundreds of thousands of families in need? What difference do you possibly make?" Well, we make a difference to that family. In the same way, you can't approach donations as a way to stick a band-aid on 500,000 possibly dead people in a natural crisis, but the money you do donate benefits in smaller, equally important ways.
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I feel terrible
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Nobody said it was going to change overnight, and of course, nobody would care about 500 thousand people dying if they didn't die.
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Just donated my paycheck, this is really a horrible situation that Haiti are in, considering the financial status they were in before the quake. Please people give what you can!
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Oh. My. God. The reason 500,000 people are already dead is because of an earthquake. Then you go on to suggest that because they are born into an extremely poor country they don't deserve help.
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The reason 500,000 died and it has devastated the country to this high of a level is because upwards of 80 percent of the people in Haiti live under the poverty line and that isn't going to change overnight. No one would even care if it wasn't for this earthquake. It definitely made conditions worse, but they were all ready bottom of the barrel before.
A country being at the bottom of an economical or situational barrel shouldn't illegitimize their need for financial support - if anything, it should escalate the need for assistance.
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who the fuck is pat robertson
or more so, why am i so culturally inept? time for a google search
EDIT: oh that pat robertson
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500,000 people died because they all live in wood shacks and not real houses. And don't pretend you gave a shit before the earthquake.
Two problems here. Legitimate, tangible problems. Poverty isn't an excuse for the deaths of half a million people. And whilst I in particular didn't have a shit to give Haiti before (although there certainly are organizations that do), they're now in my radar - which means, their situation can be helped in part by me and people like me who similarly have heard the recent news and developments. Besides, it can't be helped if the American broadcasting media neglects foreign poverty - you can't blame Americans for not knowing about global poverty if nobody is telling them about it.
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American news is so restrictive. Well, that's what I noticed when I was over there, shit all was said about the rest of the world.
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how do you go from saying
Always helping others who will never help back when we have people in our own country who need the money just as much.
It's not our job to give money to every country that has a problem
and then have the nerve to say
500,000 people died because they all live in wood shacks and not real houses. And don't pretend you gave a shit before the earthquake.
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500,000 people died because they all live in wood shacks and not real houses. And don't pretend you gave a shit before the earthquake.
Who are you to assume what others care about. Shut the hell up
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It would have been much more logical to reach out to the people in poverty and improve living conditions before mother nature could attack their lack of structural efficiency.
Now that little operation my friend would seriously contribute to our recession, and not in a good way.
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Yeah good point, we can't spend money since we're in debt so much.
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No, nobody did.
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Someguest, as part of Architects without Borders and Engineers Without Borders, my friends spent two months last summer in
Haiti in one of the poorest communities on Earth building "wood shacks" (that were completely structurally sound to the best of
Western standards). I just saw some pictures uploaded by their mentor, who stayed with the community, the buildings were utterly
decimated by the quake.
I don't understand why you're so concerned about 25 cents tops. Skip a gumball, and save a life or two.
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The poverty is the main focus here. It would have been much more logical to reach out to the people in poverty and improve living conditions before mother nature could attack their lack of structural efficiency.
The poverty was the main focus. Poverty is a crippling thing, of course, I'm aware of that - but poverty doesn't take 500,000 lives in a day, and Americanized media and publication isn't interested in broadcasting the news of a gradual rot in Haiti, they're interesting in the fast-moving, earth-shattering (literally) natural disaster. However, it doesn't matter how you put it - why shouldn't people donate money to the cause? Is it not going to a good place?
If people want to invest in bettering developing nations, they can still do so before "mother nature attacks their structural efficiency." They can do the research and figure things out with their own minds. But for the people who only found out about the crisis in Haiti now, it's not a sin for them to want to contribute positively to the harrowing situation. Do you kind of understand what I mean? I don't think we're on completely different pages, just different paragraphs.
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yeah you all had Haiti on your mind before this event my bad
You seem to think you're proving everyone to be hypocrites.
You don't even bloody care about what's happened, all you can do is act like a dick and make a mockery out of people who are showing concern.
Remember that when a quake hits your country, and you expect some aid workers to haul your lousy ass out from a fallen ceiling
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gotta protect you and yours...sucks to be poor yo'
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I wouldn't depend on someone to pull me out. And I sure as hell wouldn't expect someone to come and save my ass.
Well not everyone is you, and some people could really use and would really apreciate help right now.
So if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all
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I don't feel the urgent need to jump on the sudden aid bandwagon
You're a true indie hipster. Stick to those lesser known disasters man, you'll get insta-cool points.
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I wouldn't depend on someone to pull me out. And I sure as hell wouldn't expect someone to come and save my ass.
Why not?
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"I don't feel the urgent need to jump on the sudden aid bandwagon"
...or the any aid bandwagon, sounds like. must be nice to be so self-absorbed that you don't even notice any suffering other than your own, let alone feel an emotional investment in wanting to help reduce the suffering of other people.
and 'sudden'? how about 'who needs it most'? and yes, they 'sudden'ly needed it most if that's what you're trying to say.
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"I don't feel the urgent need to jump on the sudden aid bandwagon"
lol tombits I was going to mention that half of someguests 5 ratings are total sputnik favorites.
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Lol this was an interesting read. I don't know why there was even an argument about this. Imagine if you were 7, your family just all died in a earthquake. Would you want aid Someguest? Or would you be happy as this 7 year old because you seem to know how this affects everyone so you'd be cool and McGuyver the shit out of some branches and make some lasagne like you think every 7 year old without parents can do.
This isn't about America, It's about Haiti. There are other problems in the world but at the moment 500 000 are expected to be dead, people are starving and they need help right now. You're speaking from the other end of the disaster, as in, it didn't affect me so I'm cool, I'll just bitch about my country spending all their money on some lesser humans in haiti. There is no need to further your inhumanly political point.
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I'm the only one here who isn't being hypocritical
This statement bothers me for two reasons, 1.) I posted in this thread earlier and I donate about $10 each week to various charity organisations. 2.) You act as if you somehow know how everyone's thinking, some people actually do spend a lot of time donating to charity, it has nothing to do with the media's influence, but when a disaster that kills thousands of people in a single area in a very short period of time calling people hypocrites for wanting to help, simply because they weren't doing anything before is ridiculous, not everyone has access to all information on everything going on in the world, so when something major like this earthquake occurs and shocks people just because they have an urge to help doesn't make them hyprocrites, it makes them good-natured albeit unaware.
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Exactly. Or if anything, just responding to the situation that has the greatest need for help.
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spam
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Someguest's argument needs more sweeping generalizations.
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I wonder if anyones ever donated to Haiti until now or if it takes a huge disaster to get people to notice these things.
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read the thread statik. many of us have.
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Yeah I didn't read the thread but I will now.
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The Daily Mail doesn't consider this front-page news. RIP to those who died, good luck to those who survived
I wouldn't depend on someone to pull me out. And I sure as hell wouldn't expect someone to come and save my ass.
Remember kids, every kid in Haiti thinks like this
I call for someguest to be banned
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It's the worst thing that could happen to that place. The living conditions were so bad before the quake, and now it's like negative. It REALLY sucks down there.
and someguest is just trying to get attention. He really doesnt know dick.
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After paying tuition in full, car insurance, and other car issues, I've been feeling worried about my gap in the money department. After this happened, I've never felt so damn greedy. Donating today. Prays are out to all those affected.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp=34857433?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-PEaWUduCM&feature=player_embedded
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Terrible situation
Never made it to Haiti when I did mission trips but I only hope those who survived can find their missing loved ones and begin rebuilding their lives.
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There's nothing wrong with people pledging a few dollars of their own money to help somebody when they're at rock bottom. Stop being such a fucking douche, and show a little compassion towards enormous suffering.
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You're a true indie hipster. Stick to those lesser known disasters man, you'll get insta-cool points.
Man this had me rollin.
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People are so retarded... this was truly tragic.
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You all attribute the earthquake for being the primary reason for all the death, but it isn't. The poverty is the main focus here. It would have been much more logical to reach out to the people in poverty and improve living conditions before mother nature could attack their lack of structural efficiency.
Your stupidity and persistence intrigues me. It was a 7 on the Richter magnitude scale; poverty wasn't the largest contributing element to their death, it would have been almost equally as devastating elsewhere in the world. Contrary to what you believe if people didn't care and concern themselves with this as seriously as they do the world would be a disgusting place to live in. Financially I am struggling a lot, but still found some extra money to denote, because in truth, they need it a lot more than I do, and it will be much more beneficial. Stop trying for attention.
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roflmao someguest is such a fucking moron i can't even comprehend his existence
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someguest you are fucking retarded
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Yesterday they ran out of body bags.
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50,000+ people die, and some of you find nothing to do but argue (as usual).
It's fine when discussing a musician's credibility or the like, but how do you dumbfucks manage to screw THIS up? Shut up and donate, or shut up and do nothing. I don't care. But for the love of whatever you believe in, stop fucking arguing about it and just pay respects to the 50,000 people who just fucking died, and spare your elitist opinions for once because
A) You have no idea what the hell you're talking about, and
B) No one cares.
With that being said, RIP.
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Only a few are trying to argue trivial things, and are consistently making this sites credibility look bad. Also, it's a lot more than 50, 000 people now.
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someguest has 2 points now. I guess he's winning.
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He's winning at losing.
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"50,000+ people die"
think you missed a zero there
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I thought they had 100, 000 confirmed.
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it's hard to confirm anything in that country
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fucking heartbreaking, donated $10
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okay, change of direction - i think we can all ignore someguest anyway. its just one person with an opinion. wont change all the multitudes of people who could be making a difference right now. lets do that - instead of bickering with a single individual. thats the problem with humankind in general...and its taken this Haiti incident and the...wonderful...Someguest to truly make me realize that.
/message of the day
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Cmon guys don't feed the troll, law of the internet.
I hope everybody can try to give *something.* I'm a broke college kid with 40k of debt in my name and $4.52 in my checking account since the summer, and I'm putting $10 from my grocery funds to the red cross. I'm not saying that for a pat on the back, I'm saying that so that other broke people can see that being broke isn't an excuse.
As for anyone who doesn't think giving to Haiti right now is important: ok. I don't care. Just don't bash people that do.
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I think if you truly are lacking funds and are in some serious debt, then an exception can be made, but whenever that person gets money they should put some of it towards this cause, rather than buying a meal from Mc.Donalds.
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rip
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it's so sad to see the people tear those UN trucks apart for food
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That's actually a depressing site to see tbh.
I can say with 100% confidence that someguest is the dumbest person i've never met. No one's telling you that you HAVE to donate. But if you can, and feel that it's a worthy cause then please do so. And the mod's are just giving you a quick way to do so, providing the banners etc.
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"When did this disaster become "all about the children"? If that's how you have to justify donating your money, so be it. The bottom line is if you want to donate then fine, but don't crucify those who don't feel they should donate. I wasn't going to sit here and go "yup, just donated 10 BUCKS" like the rest of you. It just wouldn't be right in my mind"
none said you had to donate but don't try and justify the not doing so to those who want to do it, and to those who are doing it, don't do it just cos you want to say you donated the money, its lame and pathetic, do it for the population that was pretty fucking poor and now are even worst, they didn't asked our aid before because it would of been useless, would the government or anyone at that would of given money if there weren't so many body bags? but now they do and its up to those willing to aid them
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Yeah, I mean, who wants to help one of the poorest countries in the world who just got hit by a devastating earthquake that killed at least 100,000 people
Madness
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:Donating:
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