Capsize supposedly disband

2019-02-23 by Kurai | 63 Comments
San Diego based Post Hardcore band Capsize appear to have broken up following sexual misconduct allegations raised against them yesterday. The band had numerous allegations raised against members Nick Lopez (who was dismissed from the band and made a statement following the allegations) and Daniel Wand. The band was dropped from their UK tour with Holding Absence, and deleted all their social media accounts following the allegations against Wand.

More info can be found here:

http://lambgoat.com/news/31202/Capsize-appear-to-break-up-after-more-allegations-surface

Tagged: Capsize

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KenboSlice
February 23rd 2019
3044 Comments


Maybe they shouldn't be predators

JayEnder
February 23rd 2019
3516 Comments


They were always a poor mans Counterparts anyways

Darius the Great
February 23rd 2019
20097 Comments


https://i.redd.it/ogqbn8anl4i21.jpg

Cormano
February 23rd 2019
1413 Comments


lol this guys started following me on ig a few years bak, i dont think i heard a single song by them

KenboSlice
February 23rd 2019
3044 Comments


They have one song that's basically a ripoff of Say Days Ago

botb
February 23rd 2019
12836 Comments


Band has always been boring so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

AgentDeathbat
February 23rd 2019
9756 Comments


Guess that's another band to boycott then. Fucking hell. I really liked their last album...

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Snake.
February 23rd 2019
21565 Comments


@Darius okay but this band hasn't done shit in three years so that's not the case?

Darius the Great
February 23rd 2019
20097 Comments


it's just a meme dude

KenboSlice
February 23rd 2019
3044 Comments


Shame it wasn't funny

Space Jester
February 23rd 2019
6082 Comments


“They were always a poor mans Counterparts anyways“

Geez they must have really blown cause Counterparts isn’t even good

Sinternet
February 23rd 2019
19091 Comments


except they are and you only listen to gay metal

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Space Jester
February 23rd 2019
6082 Comments


I like a lot of metalcore dude, Counterparts is just boring af

brainmelter
February 23rd 2019
6300 Comments


I really like the use of the word ‘supposedly’ here

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sixdegrees
February 23rd 2019
5832 Comments


presumably?

igordrago
February 23rd 2019
78 Comments


Fuck I really dug these guys. Never heard about the allegations. What the fuck is wrong with people.

SheWatchedTheSky
February 24th 2019
15 Comments


Imagine if metalcorebros could keep their dicks in their pants

JayEnder
February 24th 2019
3516 Comments


They’d still make boring music

JayEnder
February 24th 2019
3516 Comments


And Counterparts is the least boring band in the stagnant genre of melodic hardcore. Try again.

AgentDeathbat
February 24th 2019
9756 Comments


I loved Daniel Wand's vocals especially, so it double-sucks that he's a piece of shit. But whatever, there's at least a dozen clones I could be spending time with.

Space Jester
February 24th 2019
6082 Comments


“And Counterparts is the least boring band in the stagnant genre of melodic hardcore. Try again.”

“Least boring” is a bit of a backhanded compliment tbh. When I want to listen to a band that does the genre justice I’ll go to Birds in row



outliers
February 24th 2019
524 Comments


Farewell knockoff counterparts

GreyShadow
February 25th 2019
3001 Comments


These guys were awful live especially when sandwhiched between Hail The Sun and Eidola.

And yeah Counterparts is boring and overrated

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JeetJeet
February 25th 2019
6294 Comments


This Counterparts slander is disgusting and egregious.

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Space Jester
February 25th 2019
6082 Comments


Have you checked Shai Hulud my dude

CugnoBrasso
February 25th 2019
551 Comments


So, are post-hardcore and metalcore basically the same thing nowadays?

zeitgeistaddendum2
February 25th 2019
19 Comments


Anyway.. these guys are being dropped off tours and shit.. is there even proof that the allegations are true? Like, I could just post on twitter that I was raped by James Hetfield and then Metallica would disband?

JS19
February 25th 2019
7073 Comments


this thread is already off to a great start

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Kurai
February 25th 2019
241 Comments


"Anyway.. these guys are being dropped off tours and shit.. is there even proof that the allegations are true? Like, I could just post on twitter that I was raped by James Hetfield and then Metallica would disband?"

If multiple people are coming forward about the band and it's members, it would be safe to assume that they are true. Nick was dismissed from the band after the allegations were raised (making him the scapegoat even though multiple members were responsible, pretty much what Moose Blood and Neck Deep did when faced with similar allegations), and then more people came out about their vocalist Daniel Wand. The band's resort of deleting their social media accounts rather than taking responsibility for what he did pretty much proves his guilt.

Of course, in these kinds of situations, people like to pick and choose which bands to drop and which ones to 'separate from the artist'. Everyone was so quick to call out Front Porch Step, but when it was Neck Deep being accused of similar stuff, all of Neck Deep's fans said the victim was making it up for attention (not sure who would want to be known for being abused by a band member, but alas).

pjquinones747
February 25th 2019
2943 Comments


I liked the newer album for sounding a little more retro post hardcore like TOCS-era Underoath and whatnot, but it's a shame that these guys shot themselves in the foot before they had a chance to really shine.

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CugnoBrasso
February 25th 2019
551 Comments


Ok, so if an album that came out in 2004 is retro post hc then I guess that Fugazi is like prehistoric post hc?

Space Jester
February 25th 2019
6082 Comments


Holy shit...then what does that make Embrace and Rites of Spring??? Amoeba phxc?!!??!?

momentsofclarity
February 25th 2019
419 Comments


fugazi is grandpa post hxc

pjquinones747
February 25th 2019
2943 Comments


im not here to split hairs, all im saying is fugazi STARTED it and there have been a few eras of it. im referring to the mid 00's iteration.

AgentDeathbat
February 25th 2019
9756 Comments


lmao what i liked about their second album was just how much emotion those cleans had

Matthias812
February 25th 2019
41 Comments


Find it hilarious when people completely disown a band because the whole band or a member did something shitty. The music still rules whether the band are shitty people or not. Will it deter one to support the band in the future? Sure, that's reasonable but if they put out some good shit already and you liked it then, it's pretty weak to now hate it just because a band's shitty character comes to light.

Just keep it about the music, no need to be all social justice warrior about this shit.

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AgentDeathbat
February 25th 2019
9756 Comments


^found the snide alt

pjquinones747
February 25th 2019
2943 Comments


In a vacuum we should be able to calmly say the art is not the artist, but we aren't in a vacuum and in a subculture heavily centered on social justice ANYONE can get disowned on a moment's notice. Not accepting that at this point is just as ignorant as saying art = artist.

Jesse Lacey was one of the most beloved people in alternative music and he got completely ruined by shit that happened nearly 15 years prior to his accusations. Nobody is safe.

AgentDeathbat
February 25th 2019
9756 Comments


At the same time, it's okay to be disappointed when the person you loved turned out to be a piece of human garbage and say it makes it more difficult to listen to the music.

Matthias812
February 25th 2019
41 Comments


I can understand being disappointed, for sure.

I guess being a massive black metal fan I always looked past the human garbage of people and just liked music for the music. I'm not an atheist, I don't condone Nazi propaganda, hate, or murder but I love the hell out of some black metal.

Asdfp277
February 25th 2019
19973 Comments


weird to love the singer of a mediocre metalcore band you don't even know

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KenboSlice
February 25th 2019
3044 Comments


I saw these dudes live and they were trash both times.

AgentDeathbat
February 25th 2019
9756 Comments


Wand's cleans were the tits, so I get it

KenboSlice
February 25th 2019
3044 Comments


If his cleans are so good why did he sound so bad live

AgentDeathbat
February 25th 2019
9756 Comments


Even great singers can have their off days.

KenboSlice
February 25th 2019
3044 Comments


I've seen them twice just barely a year apart. His vocals were ass and the band was sloppy.

AgentDeathbat
February 25th 2019
9756 Comments


At the very least he sounded great in studio

Asdfp277
February 25th 2019
19973 Comments


lol

KenboSlice
February 25th 2019
3044 Comments


"These guys were awful live especially when sandwhiched between Hail The Sun and Eidola."

Yeah, them playing killed the vibe for a while.

Also it was great to see Thousand Below open for them and have a bigger crowd and put on a better show.

AgentDeathbat
February 25th 2019
9756 Comments


i'm at least glad i re-evaluated my 5's before this happened, I had A Reintroduction at a 5 for a while.

Ebola
February 25th 2019
3553 Comments


The comments on the linked article are fucking appalling.

CugnoBrasso
February 25th 2019
551 Comments


You know what's appalling? The fact that post hardcore can be anything from hüsker dü to fall out boy

Ebola
February 25th 2019
3553 Comments


Yes, you're right. Genre mislabeling is far more appalling than hurling sexist insults at rape victims. Fuck off.

Space Jester
February 25th 2019
6082 Comments


@Ebola I’m pretty sure lambgoat has a reputation for having one of the most vile and cancerous comment sections on a site like that

@Cugno yea it’s pretty bizarre how far the genre has strayed from its origins. Yet another term co-opted by scene kids

AgentDeathbat
February 25th 2019
9756 Comments


literally who thinks fall out boy is post-hardcore

kevbogz
February 25th 2019
1038 Comments


these guys were fucking pricks at local shows back in the day. tough guy x24x bullshit

SlicePaperMoog
February 25th 2019
1067 Comments


This band has always been painfully meh.

Condolences go out to victims hope theyre all doing fine.

CugnoBrasso
February 26th 2019
551 Comments


Whoa easy ebola

suppatime
February 26th 2019
1403 Comments


damn i'm pretty sure they followed me on tumblr a long ass time ago, rip my follow ratio on there

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Kurai
February 26th 2019
241 Comments


While we can appreciate that bad people make good music, I feel it’s unwise to continue supporting them once we're aware of their behaviour. Brand New were one of my favourite bands for years, but I stopped supporting them as soon as the allegations came out and haven’t listened to them since. I never listened to Science Fiction since the store I ordered it from didn’t get their stock until after the allegations came out (swapped my pre order for the last Hot Water Music album instead).

kevbogz
February 26th 2019
1038 Comments


agreed completely, but it's hard for me to not put on Whirr every so often

iglu
February 27th 2019
1341 Comments


what did whirr do?

Asdfp277
February 28th 2019
19973 Comments


the transphobic tweets at G.L.O.S.S. i think (?



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