I lol'd at the article. That's exactly what it sounds like from the article, tbh.
"We had to make a decision, and it was one or the other, and we felt that Guitar Hero were more suited for what we were looking for..."
I believe that sums up everything I needed to say.

had they said, we like the gameplay or the format of the game better than I'd believe it was for other reasons than money. that's truly not the case here.

I think the line that made me decide how best to bring the article to Sputnik was this: They were ready to step up on a number of fronts and it's been great.

Yeah, Lars wasn't exactly subtle, was he?

OH WOW, I'm not surprised at all.

Checkout those jean jackets!

Meh, can't really hate on that.

Guitar Hero SUXXXXXXXXX

those are leather jackets you idiot

It's because Guitar Hero was willing to give them an entire game and Rock Band wasn't. Obviously they would make more money with an entire game dedicated just to them. Gotta love the professionalism of this article /sarcasm.


Money=exposure and exposure=money.This Message Edited On 10.22.08

either way they look like shit

NP Megadeth - Mechanix

considering they both suck this is a fitting partnership.

"either way they look like ****"

Not really...but okay.

Lars didn't even say anything that was remotely condescending. He basically said that Guitar Hero was willing to make them more of a headlining feature and Rock Band wasn't.

What is so "****" about that? ...unless you forgot music is an industry.

"They were ready to step up on a number of fronts and it's been great."

I assume you don't get what he means by that line.

Money: The reason Metallica does anything

Cash rules everything around me
CREAM! Get the money, dolla dolla bill yallThis Message Edited On 10.22.08

It's because Guitar Hero was willing to give them an entire game and Rock Band wasn't. Obviously they would make more money with an entire game dedicated just to them. Gotta love the professionalism of this article /sarcasm.

Article title should read:

Why Metallica Still Sucks

What is so "****" about that? ...unless you forgot music is an industry.

So many lines of jealousy.

Article should read:



"People continue you to bitch about metallica because its trendy"

^^
R u kidding? Jesus leaping lizards, Batman! I smell a fanboy.

Article should read:

"People continue you to bitch about metallica because its trendy"

Gotta agree with Willie.

Jetty89's album rankings

Metallica Death Magnetic=5/5
Metallica Metallica=5/5
Metallica S&M=5/5
Metallica Garage, Inc=5/5
Metallica Cunning Stunts (DVD)=5/5

Hey i fixed that...

garage inc sucks

You think because you get 5 people to agree with you on a message board that you are right.

Metallica is because of the decisions they made financially throughout their carrers

Yeah i am a huge fanboy...i love metallica. You guys get all these little snippets of info from interviews and you think you know them like their own parents. You think any of these pathectic little indy bands you guys love to praise are going to be around in 30 years,no. Metallica is because of the decisions they made financially throughout their carrers, and its also why they have and incredibly huge fanbase. You think because you get 5 people to agree with you on a message board that you are right.

"Why they chose Guitar Hero" doesn't even need and explanation.
Incidentaly, the explanation is: MONEY!!!!!!

Yeah i am a huge fanboy...i love metallica.

You think any of these pathectic little indy bands you guys love to praise

You think because you get 5 people to agree with you on a message board that you are right.

Whatev...

Being an idiot...

And Greenday is patheticThis Message Edited On 10.22.08

.......

Be careful, you will get flamed

Jetty? Friend? Pal?

The only Metallica fanboys are literal preteen boys.

Please go finish your math homework
kthxbai

Seriously, watch your tongue.
Most bands don't break up from money issues. That's what labels are for. Most bands end up breaking up due to differences between members.
And in all honesty, I'd rather have a band make one incredibly mind-blowing album and leave me with something to cherish for an incredibly long time than them lasting for decades and releasing pure shit.
Go listen to Bomb the Music Industry! They're a perfect example of a band that doesn't need money. I mean... Seriously? They're trying to keep the budget for their next record under $50. And they release near perfect stuff. PLUS! They release all their music FREE. Fans donate. I'd love to see Metallica do something like that.
Oh, wait. They can't.

Yeah

Hey, dickhead? Sales do not measure quality...

You dont care how long a band lasts....

You think these indie bands would turn down a million dollors

you have to make profit off of it.

They have been around longer than any newer band will be...

You dont have better taste...you have "scene" taste

Sales are only an indication of how many people hear the music in the mainstream, and enjoy it. Enjoy it meaning it's catchy and they don't have to pay too much attention.
There will be many bands much more deserving of the attention Metallica gets, and they won't get it

Steerpike, will you marry me? O.O
Seriously, though, your argument is completely devoid of any credibility, Jetty. So I suggest you go sit in the corner and think about what you've said.

Wow this is a heated argument. Metallica certainly does love their money but it is getting old hearing people talk about that when ever they get brought up. They make good music and that is all i really care about, some albums better than others (alot better in some cases). But its all really about just liking the music you like, if jetty loves metallica then that works for him. But blabbing about it is annoying.

if jetty loves metallica then that works for him.

Well im sure you do and you are on a roll but it isnt going to change his opinion and is isnt going to change the fact that Metallica didnt get big by making shitty music.

it isnt going to change his opinion

Metallica didnt get big by making shitty music.

Yeah i am a huge fanboy...i love metallica. You guys get all these little snippets of info from interviews and you think you know them like their own parents. You think any of these pathectic little indy bands you guys love to praise are going to be around in 30 years,no. Metallica is because of the decisions they made financially throughout their carrers, and its also why they have and incredibly huge fanbase. You think because you get 5 people to agree with you on a message board that you are right.

Dude come on dont get into with me. You didnt say it was worth changing but i got that from all of the huge point-making paragraphs you typed to him. Ranting about how bad you hate them is just as bad as ranting about how much you love them.

Metallica didnt get big by making shitty music.

Ranting about how bad you hate them is just as bad as ranting about how much you love them.

Willie, this article is brilliant.

Steerpike for president!

Holy **** man are you trying to start an argument with me or something. I know you just slammed some idiot for ten minutes congrats, but chill out, a five year old could have one that one, im agreeing with you.

Metallica made good music when they weren't so greedy cause it came from the soul; then they went all mainstream and wrote shitty-ok music

LUL. Ive never seen a bigger Metallica hater than Steerpike. Ive been watching him rip them ever since I joined.This Message Edited On 10.22.08

Holy **** man are you trying to start an argument with me or something.

LUL. Ive never seen a bigger Metallica hater than Steerpike. Ive been watching him rip them ever since I joined.

Ha!
Ive just read your sound-off on MOP and I can see where you're coming from dude, its still a great album IMO, but I can also totally get what you meant by this:
"In short, this is an over-hyped "right album, right time" deal that was already surpassed by its contemporaries and was swiftly left in the dust only a few short years later."
but I don't agree with it being rated 2. Anyway, its your opinion.

I know my opinions on Metallica put me in a minority, and I'm okay with that. It's nothing I haven't seen before.

Truthfully, I just thought the budding extreme metal movement and the explosion of power metal were more exciting moments for the genre during the 80's.

I expected that much from them.

Explosions of power metal?

And why like Metallica when there are so many better thrash metal bands? I never really liked Master Of Puppets (Is there something wrong with me?) But I found Ride The Lightening pretty awesome.This Message Edited On 10.22.08

Explosions of power metal?

I hate the 80's altogether.
Any time I think of it, I think of terrible pop music with an excessive amount of synthesizer.

Old school Power Metal is good. Manowar are cool, the only Power Metal I listen to currently are Iced Earth.

You're late by like 2 hours. Sorry, bud.

Headline should be

"Band signs deal with Company "A" because Company "A" was a better business decision."

I'll be realistic. If Guitar Hero and Rock Band wanted our music in it and we had to choose only one, then I would definitely choose the higher paying of the two.

But I also think that Metallica is one of the most overrated egotistical bands I've ever had the displeasure of listening to. Every night at 10 our local classic and modern rock station plays 'mandatory metallica' which frustrates me to no end. Instead of showing us new music, they decide to play the same overrated artist at the same time of every day.

Also I've worked with an engineer who claims he knew a great bass player who auditioned for and made the finals to be metallica's bassist whenever that came about. The band sat him down and said to him 'You play better bass, but the other guy has better hair. We picked him."

You can believe me or not, it doesn't matter to me. But that, coupled with this, and coupled with the whole piracy issues back in the day, coupled with their mediocre releases makes me want to throw sharp objects.

That is all.

like metallica even gives a shi*t about the game play or which game is better, so why the f*ck not go with the game that can pay more i mean c'mon you are all b*tching for the sake of b*tching

Headline should be

Most bands don't break up from money issues

At least Johnny Rotten is honest about it...

Hahaha, love the quote

Even though he like the gameplay, I'm sure it'still for the money, especially with Lars, he's a dick.
Hell, if my band could get a full guitar hero made for them, I'd sure as hell take the deal.

I think it's obvious why Lars chose Guitar Hero. If they went with Rock Band more people would realize how embarrasingly weak his drumming is.

wait, the whole "death magnetic" album will be DOWNLOADABLE and lars isn't being a pussy and going to court over it???!!!??!!

lol...

All im saying is that it seems like Metallica gets analyzed a lot more closely than other bands. Nobody questioned Judas Priest when they made a whole album downloadable for Rock Band. And if it sounded better....which it very well could have, nobody would have even noticed. Im not saying their intentions are always in their fans best interest, but they arent the only band that makes these decisions, they are just the only ones who take alot of **** for it.

Sorry...didnt mean to do that one twice.This Message Edited On 10.23.08

Shut up Jetty, you lost this one.

for not caring, jetty, you're getting pretty defensive.

this is like listening to a bunch of 1st graders...
seriously guys... drop it. Metallica is looking
for another way to get their music across
to people. that isn't necessarily selling out.
when they changed from thrash to pop-rock (do i dare say it)/grungy metal,
to get a larger fan base, that CAN be considered selling out, even though
the material on the Black Album was pretty sweet imo.

that aside, I don't hold it against them for using a game to get their music
across to people. If any band had that opportunity, they would probably take
it... because what bands want more than anything else, is for people to hear their
music. Besisdes, think of all the people who download their songs for free! this is like
making up for lost profit that should have been theirs from the beginning.

new album is great btw. first metallica album I purchased before black album and MOP.
I like it better than both. rocks pretty hard.

At least Johnny Rotten is honest about it...

If they went with Rock Band more people would realize how embarrasingly weak his drumming is.

keep listening to your scene music

Nobody questioned Judas Priest when they made a whole album downloadable for Rock Band.

that isn't necessarily selling out.

this is like making up for lost profit that should have been theirs from the beginning.

Great article. Metallica suck.

Jetty - A few words of advice...

1. If you want to be a fanboy, go ahead, nothing too seriously wrong about that but when your band have actually done something so obviously wrong, you've gotta step down. Do you feel proud that you're taking all this stick for a band that have never given anything back to their fans?Also a random question... Have you ever downloaded any song by Metallica? Because if you have which I am near enough sure you have, then isn't that just kicking them in the balls? While everyone else is giving them crap, you stick up for them while you are contradicting yourself.

A lesson to be learned here, don't be a doormat to the music industry or to a band that really don't give a flying F*ck about you.

Thats all.

"I think it's obvious why Lars chose Guitar Hero. If they went with Rock Band more people would realize how embarrasingly weak his drumming is."

Someone want to tell this kid that the album is downloadable for Guitar Hero World Tour...which also contains drums.

Ignorance for the loss.

AngelofDeath: I'm pretty sure guitar hero includes drumming now.

Jetty: I'm pretty sure you're 12.

Bullitt: You're right, more of Metallica's actions have been placed under scrutiny than most other bands. Keep in mind however, there is a reason for it. Many people feel that Metallica have done such a great disservice to their fans in recent years and in their eyes proven that they only only care for themselves (and won't admit it) that they have no patience for their self-centeredness. When you develop that sort of reputation, that is how people are going to treat you.

I'm still buying this.

Someone want to tell this kid that the album is downloadable for Guitar Hero World Tour...which also contains drums.

"Someone want to tell this twat what a joke is?"
How is it even funny though if Guitar Hero actually does have drums? The joke makes no sense. I can see that you get really angry when people point out your ignorance though.

I can see that you get really angry when people point out your ignorance though.

"Second, you didn't like the guy's joke? Cry me a river. Next time, try saying something genuinely offensive."
But there was no joke. They both have drums...so what was the joke?

But there was no joke. They both have drums

"Sometimes I just enjoy an unsophisticated dig regardless of how much sense it makes. "
Well when logic is tossed out the window the discussion has lost its purpose. More power to you.

Well when logic is tossed out the window the discussion has lost its purpose.

"A joke is not discussion"
But as soon as we started talking about the "joke" it became a discussion. Feel free to use dictionary.com to look up "discussion". Just admit you were defending a joke that made absolutely no sense...oh wait you did...we're done here.

Just admit you were defending a joke that made absolutely no sense...oh wait you did...we're done here.

"Yeah, but Judas Priest aren't making excuses and vague non-answers. They already said in the 80's that they like having our money."

Judas priest didn't make any excuses because nobody ever expected them to. Nobody asked them about it, metallica is constantly being questioned on their every move because of the napster thing.

And i know what you mean MIRA, and alot of people have negative feelings for them because of a direct result of stuff metallica has done, but alot of people simply talk **** because everyone else is. Thats what i cant stand.

^ Ummm, major problem with the thing you said about Judas Priest. They didn't need to make excuses, no. Instead, they went the opposite way and told people that they want the money. They came straight out and admitted it. Metallica didn't, and still haven't to this day, trying to cover it up. So really, it doesn't matter about Judas Priest not making excuses, since they didn't actually want to cover up the fact that they like the money.
Steerpike - Goddamit, you've made laugh more than anything else today, and I've sat through a few hours at least of my favourite comedies! Steerpike for president!

Its easy to hold back expressing shame on a message board....whether you actually feel it or not is a different story steerpike. Spamming a million messages is annoying....talking smart and being smart are two way different things....and clearly you are not the latter.

I want the two of you to keep bitching at eachother. It was keeping me amused.

^ What he said.

That is beside the point spamue....we were talking about the fact that out of all the bands that released albums for music games Metallica is the only one that has been questioned about their motives. And quit supporting steerpike and his mindless rambling, im sure he is single why dont you ask him out?

I wasn't commenting on the discussion, I was commenting on the fact that you'd misunderstood the whole idea about Judas Priest in relation to Metallica. I'm completely allowed to do that. Actually, I was refraining from taking anyone's side, I just thought Steerpike was really funny.
Now I see you're just trying to pick a fight with me. Not gonna work, man. *leaves discussion*

I didnt mean to look like i was picking a fight. But you have to admit that Metallica obviously gets questioned about things a lot more than other bands. I didnt mean that comment i said, he just really hasnt made any legit points...he just rants and it makes him look like he knows what he is talking about. He is funny though.

Wow this has turned into the biggest bitch fight of the week.

This week on Sputnik: Metallica Versus erm Everyone?

Yeah it does seem that way doesnt it...im not trying to be the spokesman for metallica. I just cant stand people talking **** on them without knowing the facts and admitting that they get held to a higher standard.

Holy **** jetty is still here....i though you ran away long ago. I guess that is the first valid point you have made though, they do get questioned alot more about what they do than other bands....and this has kind of turned into a bitch fight.

Damn Jetty I thought it was like past your bedtime or something dude....

Megadeth >>> Metallica


There's my contribution for this discussion. :p

Megadeth >>> Metallica

I disagree, but it depends on what you are judging album quality by. For me, it's mainly about the quality of the instruments.

I was just being a dick, anyway.

Nobody asked them about it, metallica is constantly being questioned on their every move because of the napster thing.

whether you actually feel it or not is a different story steerpike.

and clearly you are not the latter.

If someone gets drunk and pisses on your leg once, you're going to be suspicious every time you see him drinking after that.

aerosmith did something similar didn't they?

Yeah your right, i dont know you as anything other than words on my screen. But i can tell by the way you respond to comments with sarcasm and the know-it-all attitude way you phrase things.

And the reason they started a campaign against napster is because "i disappear" was found on there before it was even finished or released and was being played on radio stations all over the world without them even knowing. That would piss me off. And Dr. Dre and Modonna sued napster as well....but you never hear about that. Im not saying what they did was very noble, but it wasnt just a big slap in the face to the fans for no reason like everyone thinks.

But i can tell by the way you respond to comments with sarcasm and the know-it-all attitude way you phrase things.

i like money too!