wish dillinger was headlining

still gonna be there nov 25

Was going to complain about no Ohio date and then I remembered that the last time I saw DEP in Cleveland Greg Puciato pulled his dick out on stage. Gay.

DAMN. not coming near me. DEP is ALWAYS worth going to see.


and mastodon is cool too

Well....it's better then Converge, that's for sure. When I saw that tour, Converge were terrible, almost got booed off stage in Philly.

"Well....it's better then Converge, that's for sure. When I saw that tour, Converge were terrible, almost got booed off stage in Philly."

Was this on the Dethklok/Mastodon/HoF tour?

God do i have to go the major cities? Awful awful places to drive.

That's 3 Mastodon and Dillinger tours in a row that I can't make. Screw their booking agents, seriously.

Definitely going to this,

mastodon and dillinger must be bros4life

also this is gonna rule

Converge was probably only "terrible" because you saw them in a big ass venue with a bunch of metal bands. Converge is only worth seeing in like venues that hold 300 people or less.

god damnit. no ohio dates. i dont wanna go to indi.

on dillingers website, Ben said that he's doing a side project with Brent Hinds, Eric Avery and Thomas Pridgen. seriously holy shit.

No Atl date, wth?

Think about what the majority of Mastodon fans are like, then Converge fans. That's why everyone hated Converge on that tour.

shit man, kinda want to go to this.

Wanna go to this but man I'm already burning a hole in my pocket for other tours this fall/winter

Not to mention he's flat out lying. Converge didn't get booed off stage, they didn't even get booed. I'm watching video from the Philly show of that tour and they're getting applauded despite the fact that 80% of the crowd are metal kids standing around with their hands in their pockets.

And doing that awkward, stiff headbang that makes them look out of place at their own show

Converge > Mastodon

but I could see more similarities between Mastodon and Dillinger, so this works.

^^ haha that makes more sense.

but yes, there is definitely more similarities between Mastodon and Dillinger, and they are apparently buddies.

I'll be at the 9:30 show for sure.

I remember walking by the Orange Peel. Now I have somewhat of a reason to go back to Awesomeville.

DEP> Mastodon > Converge

North American

Oooooh shit, November 3rd I gotta go.

Could give a shit less about Mastodon. But DEP is the shit, I've yet to see them live. Definitely driving to Indy when they come through.

YES EGYPTIAN ROOM LETS GO

yay kcmo show

DEP and Mastodon. A tour doesn't get much better than this

You guys need to leave the crack alone if you think Converge is better than Mastodon. If Converge was really a good band then it wouldn't matter where they played at, they would rule. Hate to break your heart but outside of our sputnik community, a lot of people think Converge sucks.

Check this out from Metal sucks

Just to let you guys know I'm not some clueless new jack, I'll admit that I saw this band in 1994. Back then, Converge eked out a meager living by playing tiny, shitty venues full of obnoxious nerds. The only thing that's changed is that now legions of equally obnoxious critics fawn over their every move.

"Listen to how INTENSE and COMPLICATED they are," gush the bloggers and tubby, 30+ outcasts who write for irrelevant hipster metal magazines. "They have 1 zillion riffs in every song, and none of them relate to each other in any way. I feel like they just pulled a handful of atonal, unlistenable riffs out of their sweatshirt hoods and smashed them together -- brilliant!! They are truly pushing the boundaries of convention! Oh, and without Converge the world might never have been blessed with Underoath and The Devil Wears Prada. This band must surely be considered the Beatles of third-rate, redundant, exhaustingly dull metalcore!"

Aside from inspiring countless awful bands to ape Converge's grating musical shtick, you can also blame Jake Bannon for more than a decade of hackneyed, amateurish metalcore record covers, T-shirts, and other eyesores. This video exemplifies his aesthetic sensibility: combine a bunch of arbitrary, "edgy" images in a senseless, poorly considered composition, put some vague-yet-"deep" phrase over it like "Axe To Fall," and voila: instant medio-core!

As wretched as this band is, their fans might be even more irritating. Equal parts beardo, antisocial masturbator, and Guitar Center geek, the typical Converge fan sports a patchy beard, a paunchy belly, and a super-aggro Internet persona with which he overcompensates for his numerous personality flaws and hygienic shortcomings. You might never meet him face-to-face, but as soon as you see his indignant, dorkier-than-thou posts on the Relapse board about how whatever you like sucks compared to what he likes, you can picture him in your head as clearly as if he were next to you, while being grateful he's not. Enjoy pissing away your lives on shitty metalcore, Converge fanbois, I'll be over here texting your little sister and impressing her with stories of seeing this terrible band 15 years ago.

http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/01/05/sergeant-d-thinks-that-converge-is-something-awful/

''Nov. 16 Detroit, MI The Fillmore''

YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Hate to break your heart but outside of our sputnik community, a lot of people think Converge sucks."

People have opinions? That's devastating. My heart will not go on.

November 9th at the Ogden. Be there or be square!

I wanna see DEP honestly. I always hear their shows are insane.

On November 27th I will explode. R.I.P.

boo hoo converge sucks blah blah. except they don't.

why is this thread overrun with converge comments? they're not on this tour, dummies.

also, my 30th birthday falls right before the toronto show. happy birthday to me. now move it to the opera house and we're set...

dont really like The WIltern but might try and go to see Mastodon for the 2nd time and DEP for the 4th time

"boo hoo converge sucks blah blah. except they don't."

They don't suck but they are not great either

"November 9th at the Ogden. Be there or be square!"

Yay-yay!

"They don't suck but they are not great either"

I agree with that

fuck yes a portland show I can make

Where's Mexico??

Nov. 26 Buffalo, NY Town Ballroom

Well....it's better then Converge, that's for sure. When I saw that tour, Converge were
terrible, almost got booed off stage in Philly.

fucking excited for november 14th


It's kinda pathetic how masbar went to all that trouble to explain why he thinks converge sucks... you aren't changing anyone's opinion, dude

"Well....it's better then Converge, that's for sure. When I saw that tour, Converge were terrible, almost got booed off stage in Philly."

Shocker.

Can't decide whether to see this tour, or the BTBAM/AAL/Tesseract tour. Decisions, decisions... Maybe they'll play together at that Asbury Park show? That would make my century.

"It's kinda pathetic how masbar went to all that trouble to explain why he thinks converge sucks... you aren't changing anyone's opinion, dude"

Not trying to change anyone's opinion, just stating my own and the opinion of those outside of the sputnik community since it's okay for people to say Mastodon sucks but its sacrilegious for me to say that I don't like Converge.
It's kind of pathetic that you responded to what I wrote even though I already stated that I wasn't trying to break your heart. Obviously I did.

Well thank you for stating metalsucks.net's stance on Converge. If I gave two shits what they thought about anything I'd visit their website for myself and not rely on you as a secondary source.

Converge was pretty pathetic when I saw them live, heard some boos.

"Well thank you for stating metalsucks.net's stance on Converge. If I gave two shits what they thought about anything I'd visit their website for myself and not rely on you as a secondary source."

Again, I apologize if any Converge fans were butt hurt by my post. I will do no such thing again in the future. Converge, Deftones, and Opeth all rule! Now am I cool again?

Hmm I might go if I can afford it after seeing Primus

Your forgetting circle takes the square

This whole discussion started because you were butt hurt about people talking about how shitty Mastodon is.

The discussion was started way before I said anything about Converge Mr. Butt Hurt Converge fan.

No, the retarded part of the discussion where you quoted some asshole no one's heard of in an attempt to prove a point that everyone here was well aware of to begin with. "Guys, people out there don't like Converge!" Cool dude, I never would have guessed.

The retarded part is that most people said nothing about what I posted but you keep going on and on as if it ruined your day to hear that some people don't like Converge. How many times do I have to say that I'm sorry that you were butt hurt by my post? I apologize. Friends now?

You keep responding like it ruined your day when some one pointed out what a retard you are.

Edit: I was never taking this seriously. Were you ever taking this as anything but friendly?

I may be a retard but it makes you look like a bigger retard wasting your time arguing with a retard over a point that you can't prove

I did prove it

To quote the great Mikael Akerfeldt: "Shut. The fuck. Up."

I never took this seriously. That's why I kept trying to throw in the pun on butt hurt which corresponds with my avitar. I was trying to wait for the right time to throw in the butt hurt number but I guess it was not funny since you never said anything about it.

Nov. 19 yesss. Late summer/fall season is churning out some pretty awesome tours.

can we please kill the use of the term "butt hurt"? seriously, it is to anti-capitalist drug abusers what "jager bombs!" is to roid raging deadmau5 fans.

not that i don't like deadmau5... or roids

i am pathetic and my heart is broken. you've bothered me so, masbar

If so many people hate converge then why did jane doe get best of the decade and beat kid a. All you haters sit the fuck down. Have your opinions but Converge has earned the respect they deserve by being one of the best bands to grace the hardcore/metal genre in the past 20 years. No one can deny that unless you are a troll.

"Was going to complain about no Ohio date and then I remembered that the last time I saw DEP in Cleveland Greg Puciato pulled his dick out on stage. Gay"

LOL

im going to see this and BTBAM in November. gonna be a good month.

If so many people hate converge then why did jane doe get best of the decade and beat kid a. All you haters sit the fuck down. Have your opinions but Converge has earned the respect they deserve by being one of the best bands to grace the hardcore/metal genre in the past 20 years. No one can deny that unless you are a troll.

lol. but what if my opinion is that converge isn't one of the best bands the grace the harcore/metal genre in the past 20 years? Do they deserve my respect regardless?

I actually started not hating Converge recently, though I think it is bland and poor at times and Jane Doe imho is just for tru xHxCx kids who think it's awesome to listen to and not cringe.

but the other stuff ain't bad, I understand the implied appeal.

also from live vids I can only assume everyone is deaf - vocalist doesn't annunciate shit and via the distortion, the pace and melody is barely decipherable.

with that said - I would love to hear No Heroes or Eagles Become Vultures live

lol. but what if my opinion is that converge isn't one of the best bands the grace the harcore/metal genre in the past 20 years? Do they deserve my respect regardless?

yes because opinions of other groups of individuals are obviously facts and if it beats out Kid A somewhere on the internet, then it's probably the best ever.

Goddamn Converge. They've managed to hijack yet another article/thread.

"YES EGYPTIAN ROOM LETS GO"

Hell yeah, dude. I'll be there.

Nov. 25 Toronto, ON Kool Haus
never seen the dillinger escape plan finally get a chance to

converge are a band that people have opinions about.

So this is why they dropped off of the Boston BTBAM bill...

Can't wait to see both.

@masbar do you realize the article you cited from metalsucks is written by the infamous Sargeant D? he's literally the resident troll over there. his articles are mostly complete trollage so let me refer you to another one of his articles that might help you with your condition my dude.

http://www.metalsucks.net/2011/09/12/are-you-an-internet-metal-nerd-im-here-to-help/

So are you trying to tell me that most people on this site are IMN because we think one band is better than another? Well I'm glad you posted some info on how we can get help. Thanks dude

wow no one's coming to mn anymore

Seems like a pretty cool tour. Never saw Mastodon live though. Dillinger are great live.

lol @masbar's whining about shit, feeding the trolls n shit

Definitely going to the NC show, looking forward to seeing both bands.

got ma tickets!!!! fuck yeah!!!!

Dammit, I hate Philly with a passion. Too many hecklan hobos.

pulled his dick out

I was about to whip out the weiner at this point