Coachella to split across weekends

2011-05-31 by Rudy K. EMERITUS | 62 Comments
Due to overwhelming demand, a quick sell-out, and numerous complaints of secondary market ticket purchasers being swindled, gouged, or otherwise robbed, organizers of the Coachella Music and Arts Festival have decided to make the annual festival a two-weekend event for 2012.

The festival will now be held on consecutive weekends (4/13-15 and 4/20-22), with the intent of producing the exact same show regardless of the date - same artists, same timeslots, etc. No word on whether this will affect artists' decision to play the festival two weekends in a row.

Advance presales for next year begin June 3rd and continue until June 10th.

http://coachella.com/

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Blindsided
May 31st 2011
1871 Comments


Because this sounds like a good idea.
No one is going to want to play.

klap
Emeritus
May 31st 2011
12410 Comments


that's what i thought initially but i dont know coachella is a big deal to a lot of bands. interested to see how this plays out

psykonaut
May 31st 2011
3913 Comments


yeah it seems like it would fuck up tour schedules, or at the very least make all the artists playing coachella screw around on the west coast for a week, once again fucking over us lowly east coast plebeians

Blindsided
May 31st 2011
1871 Comments


Maybe to older bands it might appeal because then they have the option to play more material but I feel like it would just turn into a shitty Californian version of Bamboozle.

deepintheorchard
May 31st 2011
644 Comments


Why do they sell tickets before announcing the lineup?

bowiefanman69
May 31st 2011
24 Comments


Yeah the second weekend is totally starting on 4/20!!!

klap
Emeritus
May 31st 2011
12410 Comments


because the festival will sell out regardless of the lineup

IsItLuck?
Emeritus
May 31st 2011
4960 Comments


the key word is 'attempt' to produce two identical line-ups

FromDaHood
June 1st 2011
9111 Comments


This sounds like a pretty bad idea

ihopeuchoke
June 1st 2011
668 Comments


This is the worst idea i have ever heard. I no longer want to go.

luci
June 1st 2011
12844 Comments


... what the fuck

wabbit
June 1st 2011
7059 Comments


imagine the drop-ins at the local bars during that week.

klap
Emeritus
June 1st 2011
12410 Comments


i think there's about one bar in indio, CA

farglesnuff
June 1st 2011
241 Comments


im pretty worried about the artists, but if they already decided to do this perhaps they have a few big names that have already agreed to the double weekend?? whatever, ive had a great time at all the ones ive been to thus far so im gonna risk it. if its a fuck up, well, it cant be that shit horrible. but if it is, itll probably be my last coachella...

luci
June 1st 2011
12844 Comments


I'm definitely getting my ticket for the first weekend. I can't imagine the second weekend offering a better experience.

Satellite
June 1st 2011
26539 Comments


they should play the super bowl on consecutive weekends because of how popular it is and because the tickets sell out so fast

farglesnuff
June 1st 2011
241 Comments


100% going to the first one... fresh grass and fresh sets.

Aids
June 1st 2011
24936 Comments


this is an absolutely terrible idea

elephantREVOLUTION
June 1st 2011
3065 Comments


"imagine the drop-ins at the local bars during that week."

that's what i was thinking. if you lived around there you could probably see all the bands you wanted to see the week in between at smaller venues in the area.

klap
Emeritus
June 1st 2011
12410 Comments


it doesn't work that way. most promoters include clauses in performance contracts stating bands can't play within a certain radius of the venue for at least 45 days in between performances

Aids
June 1st 2011
24936 Comments


I really hope they ditch this idea as soon as possible for the sake of all my music-loving Californian friends. If Sasquatch tried this shit I'd boycott. Seriously, what a terrible fucking idea. Can someone please explain to me how there's any chance this isn't a disaster waiting to happen?

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
June 1st 2011
32288 Comments


As long as the artists are fine with this I fail to see how this could be seen as a bad idea

Satellite
June 1st 2011
26539 Comments


there's no way they'll be able to offer as good of a lineup with artists having to commit 10 days or so to this festival.

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
June 1st 2011
32288 Comments


They don't have to commit to 10 days. I'm sure if they really wanted to, any artist could do the first weekend, fuck off for a few days to perform wherever they want and then return. And seeing as how Coachella provides exposure like no other I think they'd be fine with it

klap
Emeritus
June 1st 2011
12410 Comments


agreed with deviant. i think this could be bad but really don't think it will. coachella is THE american music festival and offers more exposure to bands than any other

Aids
June 1st 2011
24936 Comments


"As long as the artists are fine with this I fail to see how this could be seen as a bad idea"

Yeah, "as long as the artists are fine with it" is the issue here. I think there will be very few artists who are willing to commit to the festival now. Satellite basically said it: "there's no way they'll be able to offer as good of a lineup with artists having to commit 10 days or so to this festival."

maybe I'm alone here but this is the stupidest fucking idea I've heard in a long time, and I use THIS website.



Aids
June 1st 2011
24936 Comments


woah I missed the last two posts

I hadn't considered that the draw of Coachella for artists could still be there (the exposure) but I think that for every one band who is ok with it you'll find two that don't want to bother. I'm probably wrong, I guess we'll just have to see how this pans out.

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
June 1st 2011
32288 Comments


Yeah, "as long as the artists are fine with it" is the issue here. I think there will be very few artists who are willing to commit to the festival now. Satellite basically said it: "there's no way they'll be able to offer as good of a lineup with artists having to commit 10 days or so to this festival."


Yeah, but if you're a (insert generic stereotype about struggling indie band here) you'd be a fool to pass up the exposure that comes with playing at Coachella twice in one year. And for the big names it means performing to hundreds of thousands of people twice without having to travel to various locations for it

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
June 1st 2011
32288 Comments


I'm just interested to see the ratio regarding attendees for the different weekends

Aids
June 1st 2011
24936 Comments


yeah I guess, I still think it's a terrible idea. I mean, I'm thinking as a fan and festival attendee here, so I'm biased, but still.

we'll just have to see how this pans out. who knows, maybe it will be a huge success and other festivals will start to imitate it. but for now I'm standing behind my original statement of "this is an absolutely terrible idea"

Aids
June 1st 2011
24936 Comments


"I'm just interested to see the ratio regarding attendees for the different weekends"

I don't know much about Coachella's attendance so if they might sell out both weekends then this comment is kind of useless, but if there were infinite tickets available for both weekends, I think the first would sell twice as much, easily. Personally, I would pick the first weekend, no question.

Kiran
Emeritus
June 1st 2011
6134 Comments


i knew demand for coachella tickets was high but i never knew it was this high

whats the sell-out number for one weekend?

klap
Emeritus
June 1st 2011
12410 Comments


pretty confident both weekends will still sell out, but likely the first week much faster

Aids
June 1st 2011
24936 Comments


which one do you plan on going to Rudy?

klap
Emeritus
June 1st 2011
12410 Comments


the first for obvious reasons

eggsvonsatan
June 1st 2011
1087 Comments


I don't see why they couldn't fill 2 weekends with different bands.

deepintheorchard
June 1st 2011
644 Comments


I dunno why everyone says this is a bad idea. If I was in a band I would be totally down to play a HUGE festival, party for a week and explore so cal then play the HUGE festival again.

Aids
June 1st 2011
24936 Comments


yeah but not every band can afford do fuck with their schedules like that. most of the bands that would be on the bill for Coachella would usually have another show lined up a couple days after their festival set. it's inconvenient to smaller bands for sure.

ihopeuchoke
June 1st 2011
668 Comments


they should play the super bowl on consecutive weekends because of how popular it is and because the tickets sell out so fast [2]

Demonicgman
June 1st 2011
417 Comments


I don't see many bands wanting to perform twice at the same event. Why would they? They aren't getting paid more are they? Playing twice does not mean double the exposure to more fans or potential fans. Bands must play in many cities, its about location, not the amount of times you play at one place.

Just my opinion. I never have enough time or money to go to these things (festivals that is, all the ellas and oozles and arps). Oh well, maybe I'm just angry at that.

luci
June 1st 2011
12844 Comments


Of course they are going to be paid more if they are playing twice at Coachella. It will also be more exposure as they are going to be playing to two (almost completely) different audiences. I'm just worried that great artists that would have agreed to play once at Coachella turn down this new deal leading to a weaker lineup.

ihopeuchoke
June 1st 2011
668 Comments


Lineup will be way weaker

clercqie
June 1st 2011
6525 Comments


If you look at the festival scene in Europe, they already play on the same location (sort of), because the locations of those festivals are so close to each other.

The big problem will be (but is unevitable), that artists might play a much better set the first weekend than the second (or vice versa), so maybe festival goers will feel kinda ripped-off.

PoodleRapist
June 1st 2011
269 Comments


yeah, because no bands ever put on consistently good shows

clercqie
June 1st 2011
6525 Comments


Where did I say that? Notice the use of the word 'might'.

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
June 1st 2011
32288 Comments


I don't see many bands wanting to perform twice at the same event. Why would they?


You didn't read through the comments in this thread did you?

liledman
June 1st 2011
3828 Comments


yeah so i dont think it would pan out like this:

coachella dude: "we will pay you a large sum of money to play our festival"

band: "oh i dont know, i mean money and exposure, who needs that shit?"

coachella: "ok we will pay you even more to play twice"

band: "this deal keeps getting worse!"

Captain North
June 1st 2011
6793 Comments


Yeah, I really don't see how this is a bad thing. I don't even get why the bands would be playing a shittier set on the second weekend.

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
June 1st 2011
32288 Comments


Probably can't deliver on the goods after a weeks rest I guess

liledman
June 1st 2011
3828 Comments


yeah that kind of reasoning is stupid, its like saying oh the show in my town is the 12th show on their tour, itll probably be shit.

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
June 1st 2011
32288 Comments



yeah but not every band can afford do fuck with their schedules like that. most of the bands that would be on the bill for Coachella would usually have another show lined up a couple days after their festival set. it's inconvenient to smaller bands for sure.


It's not like the artists are gonna find out a week prior to the festival that they'll be needing to commit to a whole week versus a weekend


steadyriot
June 1st 2011
477 Comments


Festivals are planned way more in advance than regular shows. The bands, both big and small, will have plenty of time to work around the free week. The big names will probably just take the time off and enjoy getting paid more and the smaller bands will play a couple shows around the area and just head back at the end of the week.

If you look at a tour schedule you'd notice that there is a decent amount of zig zagging around because of venues in cities already being booked etc, so really it just comes down to more fans being able to attend. I think it's a good idea in theory, but might not actually work out so nice

cirq
June 1st 2011
9366 Comments


im going both weekends

Dogget
June 1st 2011
781 Comments


Big bands play Reading and Leeds festival every year, that requires 2 performances on the same weekend and bands very rarely phone their second one in so I don't think that'd be an issue.

Maybe the fact it's 2 consecutive weekends could be a problem for a couple of acts but considering in festival season a lot of bands pop up at several festivals I don't see why they'd get upset about getting to play one of the biggest twice.

Mabbitt
June 2nd 2011
1831 Comments


they should play the super bowl on consecutive weekends because of how popular it is and because the tickets sell out so fast [3]


MrFantasticManny
June 3rd 2011
18 Comments


they should just two diffrent lineups.....

2muchket!
June 3rd 2011
906 Comments


I fail to see how this could be a bad idea, festival's provide the chance for a band to play in front of a much bigger audience than normal (for most bands anyway). If my band was given the option to play in front of thousands of people two weekends running, I'd jump at the chance.

Plus due to the fact that festivals are booked way quite a long time ahead of the actual event, especially with tours I can't see it being a problem, bands tend to tweak their tour dates for the festival season. If a few band's are coming from over seas from the same area, than I'm sure they'll be looking at doing a west coast tour to coincide with the dates.

mothercountry
June 3rd 2011
447 Comments


who's buying tickets today?

klap
Emeritus
June 3rd 2011
12410 Comments


currently waiting on it

mothercountry
June 3rd 2011
447 Comments


me too, i have 2 computers and 3 total windows open. i need to nail down some passes for peace of mind.

mothercountry
June 3rd 2011
447 Comments


got two tickets to weekend one. now i wait for radiohead's confirmation.

luci
June 4th 2011
12844 Comments


ticket purchased



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