With each show, you are presented with a new experience, group of people, and likely venue. The only thing that remains constant is that you are attending, but your actions at a show can have potentially drastic consequences, both good and bad. This past weekend, a few of the marquee aspects of show etiquette were broken. Below, I have outlined the absolute necessities in order to be a respectful fan in a slew of environments. All of this is done to prepare yourself for every genre, because no one likes a push pit at a Modest Mouse show.
GENERAL COURTESY:
Regarding clothing, specifically shirts, perhaps the number one rule, is NEVER wear a shirt of the band you are about to see. Everyone knows you like the band because you’re at the show. If you do wear a band t-shirt, make it count, as in something that is out of that band’s genre. Also, sandals are generally a bad choice, along with any heavy clothing. The temperature inside a venue can be brutal, so consider that run from your car to the entrance in shorts during the middle of the winter.
Regarding height, if you are on the short side of the stick, know if the venue has some sort of in-house elevation, or get there early so you are in the front of the stage. Also, don’t complain when someone is tall, like myself, is in front of you. There are hundreds upon thousands of different spots that you can stand, so realize standing behind me would be counterproductive. If I get there early and have a great vantage point, realize and understand you could have had the same spot. Just because I can see over everyone does not mean I can see well from a far distance. However, I will not stand in front while waiting for a band that I enjoy if I do not like the previous act. At any rate, if you are tall, it would be wise to stand near other tall folks, as vertically challenged fans can find plenty of other spots to avoid the mass of tall fans.
Regarding moshing, only start a pit that is centrally located and avoid two pits. By having two pits, especially within a close proximity, you create a hazard for those who were there just to get a good spot for the band. So, either open up the pit more, or confine yourself to that singular mosh pit. In festivals, you will be more inclined to have multiple pits, but in an enclosed venue, you should at least attempt to join in a singular pit. Also, realize the spots that would be ideal for making a pit. Try opening a mosh pit that happens to be around fans that are genuinely rocking out because there will be some casual observers that may not want to partake in the physical nature of a mosh pit. Lastly, recognize whether or not the band you like are a mosh pit-esque band. Acts such as The Mars Volta frown upon mosh pits and would much rather spastic dancing.
Regarding talking, between songs or sets, or even asking what song is currently being played is acceptable, but do not have full conversations during a set. Not only is it rude to the band, but potentially fans in your general area. You may be able to get away with this at heavier shows, but not all shows have the volume cranked loud enough to drown out conversations. No one paid to listen to you talk about the last episode of Entourage, trust me.
Regarding phones, generally just turn them off, I am guilty of this occasionally, but really there is no reason to have your phone out during a band’s set. If you are using your phone to record the setlist or checking the weather of an outdoor show, by all means do so, but avoid texting during a set.
Regarding drugs and alcohol, if you do happen to go to a show under the influence, which is something personally that I would never do, know the environment around you. If it is a hot day, it is not such a good idea, as you may pass out due to heat exhaustion. Also, if you plan on drinking, THINK about what type of drunk you turn out to be, as in, belligerent drinkers are not the best for a show atmosphere. Also, loud and physical drunks tend to damper the situation. Furthermore, keep your drink in your cup or in your stomach, do not have it in a place where it could easily spill or think it will be cool to throw your drink. The best course of action is having alcohol to the point where you are at a reasonable level of judgment and where you can actually remember the show you are about to see.
Regarding costumes, they are always acceptable, especially when it is not Halloween. There is nothing better than seeing Whinnie the Pooh mosh at Warped Tour or a man wearing cardboard locust wings with a cardboard sword at a The Locust show.
Regarding song requests, DO NOT do this unless you know the artist takes requests during their set. About 99.9% of bands have their setlist already planned when they walk on stage. For whatever reason, Brand New fans have yet to understand this concept, and trust me, if I was Radiohead today and heard someone requesting “Creep” I would make sure not to play that ever again. Additionally, no one think you are funny when you ask for “Freebird,” no one.
FESTIVAL COURTESY:
With every festival, there are more bands that you can stomach, but during the downtime of your favorite bands, do yourself a favor and research bands you might be interested in. There is nothing worse than going to a festival and overlooking a slew of bands in order to gain energy only to find out that your new favorite band(s) played that same festival, but you missed out. Festivals generally cover a wide range of genres for a reason, to expand tastes through people simply stumbling around the grounds.
The absolute number one issue that happens at every festival that fans should NOT do, is wait out the storm for their band. By this, I mean fans that are in the first three rows, waiting an entire day until the headline act performs. The main after effect of this is there is a HIGH possibility that you will not like the other bands playing before the headline act, therefore, causing a motionless, dead front-and-center of the stage. Not only is that a buzzkill for the band playing earlier, but buzzkill for fans of the earlier bands. Often you will find fans like this at festivals where a major act are reuniting, such as Rage Against the Machine, or simply one of the most popular bands around, such as Radiohead. From a personal experience, Radiohead played on the same stage as Gogol Bordello, and it wasn’t exactly the most desirable outcome for Gogol Bordello, while Brand New and Rage Against the Machine shared the same stage. Yeesh.
METAL/ROCK SHOWS:
Like mentioned before in the mosh pit section, at certain shows, especially metal shows, mosh pits are mainstays. Therefore know where you would be safe if you simply want to headbang along or watch the band. Also, if you do mosh, recognize your surroundings and try to avoid actually hitting other people in the pit. There is nothing as bad as getting windmill kicked in the face. Also, grow out your hair to ridiculous lengths, otherwise you will not get the full experience.
ALT/INDIE SHOWS:
Alt/indie shows are often described as boring, especially the fan base. So in order to change that, break out of your hipster shell and sing or dance a little. There is nothing wrong with rocking out or singing out loud to your favorite artists, and alt/indie performers are no exception. Even with post-rock acts like Explosions in the Sky, sway with the music, or at least do something. If you are going to see your favorite band and you are standing in one of the front rows, it is pointless to stand there stationary watching their act, when you can be rocking out harder than they are.
If the band you are seeing, such as The Tallest Man on Earth or The Antlers, for instance, are bands that are generally soft and intimate, DO NOT talk during their sets, ESPECIALLY if they are the headline band. No one paid to listen to you talk, they paid to see the band performing. I have heard bootlegs of Godspeed You! Black Emperor and been at a The Tallest Man on Earth show where fans were having full conversations in the middle of their sets and it is obnoxiously rude. Fans also, for whatever reason, have tried to start clapping during moments that the band had not started clapping themselves, which usually means, you should not clap. So please, save your energy, enjoy the moment, and be quiet during intimate sets.
PUNK SHOWS:
Punk/post-hardcore/hardcore etc. shows you will find the most crowd surfing. There is nothing wrong with crowd surfing if: you are under 250 lbs and you do it, at most, three times in a show. First of all, if you do weigh a significant amount, there is a chance you will hover over a group of girls, in turn nearly killing them and yourself (God bless if you manage to get up surfing in the first place). Secondly, if you do make it to the stage, realize how to jump back into the crowd. Do not be one of those dicks that jump into the crowd and then tries to walk on the crowd. As far as girls crowd surfing, be respectful. Just because you cannot touch a breast or buttocks outside of crowd surfing, that does not mean it is okay to do it whatsoever. Lastly, expect to lose essentially everything in your pockets and your shoes. Some fans do not like crowd surfing in the least; so you may be punched or dropped, so let that be a fair warning.
HIP-HOP SHOWS:
If you are not getting down at a hip-hop show, you are at the wrong concert. Make sure you are complete copycats of whatever is going on stage with hand motions, otherwise the artist will not feel the effect of puppet mastery.
POP SHOWS:
Since pop shows are generally in arenas (you know, since they go from not playing at all to 20,000 seat arenas with one song), know that you will likely have an awful seat with a large amount of people near you with signs reading about marriage proposals and affection, so brace yourself mentally. Then again, most fans at a pop show would not mind this, unless of course your girlfriend drags you to such show.
On a final note, think about your actions before acting. A show should be a positive, memorable experience, so try to not let anyone ruin that for you. So support your favorite acts and have fun doing so without being that guy or girl.
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I was at the Gaslight show on Monday and some of this would apply here, there was a brother and sister there and every time someone would walk by/through/past them they would push them as they went by and it just blew me away because there was no need for that. Well the biggest thing was because we were standing on a landing of a stairs and at the end of the set this guy came through going down the stairs and they pushed him through like they had been and he basically fell down the steps and then insenuated he was going to pick a fight with the guy who pushed him. It's shit like that at concerts that make me wonder why people even bother existing.
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@blindsided I've dealt with that, I'm generally not one to push forward but be pushed since I hardly leave my spot, but I have seen that happen numerous times.
@Eclectic, I see no problem with it. I enjoy when a stranger starts talking, I think it should happen more often. I'm not one to strike up a convo either, but that's because I'm generally shy
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Crowd-surfing, on the other hand, has almost ruined concerts for me. I ALWAYS seem to find the spot where everyone crowd surfs, and it has made me miss some of my favorite songs (fuck the guy who kicked me in the back of the head while screaming my lungs out to "Send The Pain Below"). Now I'm the guy who screams, "HEADS UP!" whenever they're about to come up.
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YES! this is so annoying at festivals.
This is an awesome write up haha, agree with pretty much everything
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interesting
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But I do understand it for songs that a) they are clearly going to play, or b) are songs by completely other bands.
Anyway, like I said, I really enjoyed reading this.
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It doesn't have to be a band t; be bold, pop a collar and go polo
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And as for your point on mobile phones, it's a losing battle mate. I was at a gig last night & at one stage during a song, I looked across a row of about 15 people & about 10 of them were doing something on their phones. I distinctly saw 2 of them on facebook!
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they deserve it for being an asshole.
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I wish the arsehole at the Strike Anywhere gig the other week in Melbourne read this before he decided to jump on stage and continuously fuck with the drummers kit. It did result in the drummer spear tackling him over the kit and having to be dragged off him by the singer. Classic.
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Guy with the shirt is a complete dick, the Luchador-Crowdsurfer is epic.
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Awesome, this has encouraged me to try it at least once. Just hope I strike it lucky and don't pick a dick.
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You just wrecked my day :(
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One of my favourite artists, Lisa Mitchell, has a song called "Coin Laundry". It is her defining song, it's what made her famous. She refuses to play it live however, because every single time she does people throw coins at her as a joke.
Do not throw coins, it is not funny, it is annoying.
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I forgot about that. Aye, punched in the face as well!
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thought it was pretty funny
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Yes and I did say that there are a small amount of bands that do take requests, but generally not openly (Jonah Matranga is one that I know of). Everyone and their mother asks for Seventy Times 7 at Brand New shows, and Lacey is hardly warm to that request, even though lately they have been playing it.
@Krig "Out of curiosty, is Cynic ever a mosh pit worthy band?"
That's a good question, I really can't see moshing, but I guess it could happen. They kind of remind me of Isis in the sense they are playing heavy music, but I'd rather just headbang to it than anything else, mainly because they have quick and drastic speed and passage changes.
@Eclectic "Awesome, this has encouraged me to try it at least once. Just hope I strike it lucky and don't pick a dick."
Well, also find something that you really want to talk about (say a shirt they are wearing or what have you) and be prepared for a likely awkward ending, but don't feel embarrassed about it afterward. After all, the chances of you seeing them again are basically none.
p.s. thoroughly enjoyed this stories, thanks
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As to moshing, AMEN, brutha. I once got suckered into going to the front row to watch Stone Sour at a festival. Of course, me and my friend are seasoned festivalgoers, and we generally stay in the back and, you know, ENJOY THE SHOW. But one time my friend's girlfriend's brother wanted to go into the moshpit for Stone Sour, so we stupidly went along. We lasted all of one song before literally popping out again and walking away from stagefront to get some fresh air and enjoy an open space. We still discuss that day today. Worst experience I've had art a concert in my entire life. NEVER AGAIN.
Also, I noticed some bands tend to have rude fans. I once was at a festival with several metal and hard rock bands, and Korn were headlining. During the first few shows, it was all right - if you had to go to and fro and back again, folk would open up a path and let you through. But when I had to pop out during the Korn show, and I tried getting back to where my friend was, this fangirl started huffing and rolling their eyes and mouthing off at me. As Link would say, WELL EXCUUUUUUSE ME, PRINCESS! I guess it has to do with age (Korn fans are mostly teens, while other bands have more mature fanbases), or maybe it's just that fantards get too into it and forget to respect other people.
Anyway, good article, I agree with pretty much everything except the "no band t-shirts" part, because that's just stupid. I bet you didn't mean it either; I bet it's only there for shock value, though I could be wrong.
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Also, I always shout for Metal Militia and Trapped Under Ice at Metallica concerts, on the off-chance that they will hear me through the tens of thousands of people. Sometimes I even try to start a "CREE-PING-DEATH!" chant (yeah, I'm a dork). Nobody ever complained, though, as mostly I just do it once or twice before quitting.
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Metallica t-shirt for the Metallica show.
Slipknot t-shirt for the Slipknot show.
Maiden t-shirt for the Maiden show.
My friend doesn't own so many, so he always wears Metallica or Slayer. Once I went to see Korn with an Adidas shirt, which I thought was pretty clever.
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i am disappoint
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As for the shirts, at said concert, pretty much every fifth person was wearing a Mastodon shirt. I really don't see a problem with it to be honest. You like the band that much to be there, show off the merch you bought to support them and let them know you love the band.
I wore an Isis shirt though, so im safe :D
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CLAPCLAPCLAP!
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metal shows: don't hit people in the pit, no shit, but if you're throwing down, you're likely to accidentally hit someone else, so if you do get hit, don't take it personally and start pushing people who are moshing into each other, because that just truly injures people.
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