In January of 2013 I was sexually assaulted by a member of the band @sigurros when they were in Los Angeles recording an album that was set to come out later that same year. My assailant's name is Orri Páll Dýrason. I never reported it. I never expressed my pain publicly. I harbored this ache now for almost 6 years... for many reasons. I felt no one would believe me, I felt I had been irresponsible for trusting him just because he was in a band I loved and I respected him as an artist. I was drunk, and I had met him at a club (I had a brief period in which I was a dancer at a club called “the body shop”), I also engaged in a kiss with him before falling asleep in the same bed, after that I completely knocked out. I woke up with the feeling of being penetrated without my consent during a deep slumber.. it happened twice that night, and I wondered myself why I didn’t leave after the first time- but I was drunk, dead tired, in shock, and this was right before I ever heard of anything like Uber/lyft ... but none of that should matter because no one deserves to be raped/touched/licked/fucked without CONSENT. (((My heart is racing and I’m shaking just typing this.))) I wasn't ready to go public in the midst of the hype of the #metoo movement because just speaking about it gives me intense anxiety and I was about to give birth to my first child. In the wake of the news of Dr. Christine Blasey Ford calling out Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, I was triggered to speak out myself. Ironically, he’s now engaged to feminist activist who is also the founder of the Icelandic Slut walk (go figure...) And if I hear another damn Sigur Ros song during a yoga class ever again I’m gonna scream. Those songs I once found deliciously calming, beautiful and serene now leave a disgusting taste in my mouth. #endrapeculture

here we go again....

^ pretty much..

weird
post rock totally killed my libido i wonder what this guy's motivation was

Wow, well this would be a massive disappointment if true, but considering he's now quit the band off the back of the accusations it would also be disappointing if it wasn't. Can't win either way here being a fan.

Hopefully the truth prevails in the end & until then we don't know anything.

this band had a drummer?

If the comments here as as great as the comments on the Facebook announcement boy bring on #meetoo2 cos holy crap its needed

im still waiting for KONY2012

Ah delicious Monday morning news

You mean you didn't join the resistance? Dude we got KONY. Glad we were made attentive of it because it was a relevant and real threat in 2012 for sure

WE GOT EM!?

amazing in 2018 you can ruin someone's entire career without a shred of evidence

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"weird
post rock totally killed my libido i wonder what this guy's motivation was"

lmaoooo

"a lot of men could misconstrue this as consent"
Consent has to be explicit, someone passing out in bed is not a green light to have sex with them.

can confirm, those drum lines rape face
#metoo

bloc didnt send nudes

#me2

#mitu

amazing in 2018 you can ruin someone's entire career without a shred of evidence
[2]

lmao, I thought it was only necro who wanted them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8

having sex with someone unconscious sounds gross tbh

Huh. Well, he should only be judged following a thorough criminal investigation, after which his guilt is proven beyond a reasonable doubt. I believe science and criminal justice and truth, and not post-coital regret and subsequent mental escalation of a non-event, and I hope this isn't the latter.

"they seem like they were both drunk, he was thinking one way, and she woke up hungover with regret."

maybe try keeping your dick in your pants idk

Oh, great, another one. Anyway, good riddance.

subsequent metal escalation of a non-event

commenting for updates on what’s likely going to be a great thread

Just waiting for the inevitable result.

Threads like this give me cancer.
I hope there is nothing to this accusation, but if there is it's terrible. I'll wait for evidence. As long as this case is open it won't effect me much tbh

*Sigh*

Can't we all just wait and see on this? Right now, no evidence has been presented, so we can't condemn the drummer, but an investigation hasn't been done, so it's not time to give him an acquittal.

That said, this supposed incident was 5 years ago, so the likelihood of any charges even being pressed in the first place are low, regardless of whether he's innocent or not. Don't expect this accusation to truly lead to a conviction.

That said, this supposed incident was 5 years ago, so the likelihood of any charges even being pressed in the first place are low, regardless of whether he's innocent or not. Don't expect this accusation to truly lead to a conviction. [2]

'Consent has to be explicit, someone passing out in bed is not a green light to have sex with them.' (2)

Agreed, that's a disturbing mentality tbh. I've slept next to someone many a time after a few drinks & even on those occasions where kissing & suggestive foreplay was present whilst we were both fully conscious, not once have I attempted to have sex with them after they had passed out. It isn't a difficult concept to get your head around.

If they can't willingly engage in the moment then any previous 'interactions' are null & void, it doesn't give you a free pass to do whatever you please.

“this band had a drummer?” [2]

i want to reiterate, having sex with someone unconscious sounds gross tbh

it's like having sex with a mannequin (?

^ It's not that bad (personal experience (writing from prison))

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"your tears say more than real evidence ever could"

'he engaged in non-consensual sex' you mean rape?

*Sigh*

"amazing in 2018 you can ruin someone's entire career without a shred of evidence"

There are already plenty of cases in 2017, you may take a look in the most viewed news about one of such cases in this website. That case is not one's entire career, but the whole band, although the accused one (I guess EVERYONE knows who he is, so I am not going to say it on this post) admitted it in a blanket comment in Facebook.

To be fucking honest, I am sick and tired of hearing accusations from a woman to a man for sexually assaulting her. Like kalkwiese said, I really hope that it is simply nothing, but if it is true, I guess we should accept the horrible fact, right?

Yes, it is important for the society to prevent sexual assault, especially in the entertainment industry. But, what if the #MeToo movement was also used as a weapon to those who had conflict with and an express ticket to fame? Again, there is no evidence. I hope truth really prevails though, even though the chance of conviction or even pressing charges is thin as a piece of paper.

That said, I agree that "someone passing out in bed is not a green light to have sex with them". That is basically rape if you had sex with someone who is falling asleep, as you have sex with them without their permission/consent.

"i want to reiterate, having sex with someone unconscious sounds gross tbh

it's like having sex with a mannequin (?"

One of my mates had a girlfriend who wanted to be shagged while on GHB. Since he liked the idea also they tried it out. He later told me that it was quite boring and her girlfriend doesn't really remember it so both were kind of "meh"

By the way "instagram artist" is a thing now ? I feel like a million years old

QED it sucks

SherlockChris9021 dude your argument doesn't make sense. The man you're talking about has confessed to the allegations and admitted that he was an asshole at a certain period of time. This is an entirely different case since Orri hasn't confessed to these allegations. Well, yet, at least.

*Sigh*

OwO, I just remembered that Sigh are going to have a new album this year... November 14th, I believe. Anyway, you all keep doing your thing.
UwU

So we're not getting that new album, are we?

more to the point, will we get more instagram art?

he was the drummer

for Sigur Ros

commenting to see the users mentioned in my discussions to surmise without reading anything which idiot will spew what..

I'm glad I'm in a serious relationship. The burden of proof no longer rests on the accuser. Watch you back, fellas.

I'm glad I've never been in a relationship. Or a date. Or anything like that.

lol

You're not unwise Alex

sputnikdating needs to be a thing

"thank god women hated me before i raped them"

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Is she saying she woke up cuz she was getting raped or she woke up way later and thought he had raped her?

later after not being drunk anymore

"thank god women hated me before i raped them"
Lmao.

"Is she saying she woke up cuz she was getting raped or she woke up way later and thought he had raped her"

Seems like she woke up and noticed her body felt like she'd just had sex, which rang some alarm bells.

When will people finally realise that binge drinking and sex seriously don't mix, given that substance abuse is almost always the common denominator in every one of these cases, and it complicates the notion of sexual consent to an extreme. Even if someone can consent in an inebriated state, it's just not worth the risk of potentially ruining one's life along with the other's.

"To be fucking honest, I am sick and tired of hearing accusations from a woman to a man for sexually assaulting her"
Wow man yeah you must be really fucking inconvenienced I'm sorry

sputnik
sputnik never changes

"Here I was heavily intoxicated, but 5 years later I still know exactly what happened."

The danger of making allegations not directly after the fact, but when time has been allowed to play -or not play- tricks on the mind. There's no way to tell now, so you should have the decency to hold your tongue on a public forum when you know the very allegation is already a sentence.

holy shit it's rape not a trip to the gas station

"To be fucking honest, I am sick and tired of hearing accusations from a woman to a man for sexually assaulting her"
Imagine typing this lmao

"I woke up with the feeling of being penetrated without my consent..." Keyword: feeling. This Metoo movement has seriously gone too far.

"And if I hear another damn Sigur Ros song during a yoga class ever again I’m gonna scream."

#MeToo

itt: if it happened it happened if it didn't it didn't, we'll wait for forensic evidence to be more insightful

This user base really seems to be 50/50 on the whole “yeah I mean let’s get to the bottom of this and be respectful” vs “NOT A MUSIC MAN THAT I LIEKD AND PUT ON A PEDESTAL HE WOULD NEVER BURN THE WITCH AT THE STAKE” and that’s I guess just the climate but man it’s disappointing

Is this an incel thread on 4chan or a sputnik thread? I can't tell the difference

Saw you standing there

Dum-di-di-dum-di-di-dum-dum

With a smile to spare

#MeThree

Even blind could see the spell on me

When I go dum-di-di-dum-dum

4 youuuuu

In further news, Sigur Ros covers MarvinGaye’s Heard It Through The (g)Rapevine..

"Is this an incel thread on 4chan or a sputnik thread? I can't tell the difference"

Oops someone doesn't have a sense of humor

"Is this an incel thread on 4chan or a sputnik thread? I can't tell the difference"

Oops someone doesn't have a sense of humor

bazinga

why would he resign if he claims he's innocent?

"why would he resign if he claims he's innocent?"

I guess so he can deal with it and not bog down the band if it goes to court or anything

He explained it in his statement

remember when the world was supposed to end in 2012?

Delete this thread, start over. Too many idiots here.

Many big oofs in this thread

Yea bork most ppl here need to fuck off and stop posting but that's normal for sputnik anyway uff

"Is this an incel thread on 4chan or a sputnik thread? I can't tell the difference"
I may appear to be an incel but I'm actually not one, okay?

This thread is much better than the Maynard accusation article at least

"why would he resign if he claims he's innocent?"

Whether or not he is innocent, it's a good thing he resigned because it keeps the band's name from being tarnished. No one has to worry that their support for the band means supporting an alleged rapist.

raped/touched/licked/fucked without CONSENT.

This is a night out in Wales love

"why would he resign if he claims he's innocent?"

It was rather well explained on his statement lol.

The two ugly sisters from Fordham
Went out for a walk out of boredom
And on the way back
A sex maniac
Jumped out of a bush and ignored them.

I can't say whether or not this really happened, but Orri is handling it very respectfully. His statement only hints at denial, not any sort of aggressive "You liar! I don't know you!" kind of thing. That's cool.

But..."@sigurros when they were in Los Angeles recording an album that was set to come out later that same year" Kveikur wasn't recorded in Los Angeles, according to Wikipedia.

I would take this more seriously if not for the fact that it was posted by Toondude. Now I don't know what to believe.

I would tend to assume there's no real benefit for her coming out with this, so something might have happened. As to what exactly it was only those two would have any idea.

"To be fucking honest, I am sick and tired of hearing accusations from a woman to a man for sexually assaulting her" i have some bad news for you if you ever find yourself in the position of having close women friends and confidantes pal

what^

believe it or not wines some women are reasonable

if youve not experienced this may i suggest diversifying your friend circle

what does being reasonable have to do with confiding in ur friends

ha i just realised how that could be misread, i meant being confided in about sexual assault experiences by women, not accused of it yourself

imagine having female friends

Imagine having friends

"imagine having female friends" is this cursed sites motto, apparently

idk i'm picking the wrong place to sermonize but rape is frighteningly prevalent and victims/survivors don't have recourse to services that other people who have experienced some kind of trauma do - indeed, in my neck of the world, money has been divested from Rape Crisis', who have to basically beg for their annual funding, even though the rates of it haven't gone down. shit like "to be fucking honest, I am sick and tired of hearing accusations from a woman to a man for sexually assaulting her" isn't just a (profoundly idiotic) throwaway line on a website but seems to encapsulate an entire structures modus operandi.

why y'all replying to an intentionally inflammatory dumb statement tho, u don't have to argue against it at all like

one of the downsides of being known for saying dumb shit i guess

the dude has 131 comments

Reasonable extrapolation, asdfp.

extrapolate from what

bad comments here, extrapolate to outside of here

dang

the fuck is wrong with you

he's tired of the facism

just can't take it anymore

drumpf is facist...and so is hilary! politicians bad. i’m smart

All you cretins that think women make this shit up for no reason other than to ruin a man’s career are gonna watch how you act toward women you want to put stuff in and that’s really all that matters

Also, “this band had a drummer?” [2]

i’ve never even looked at a woman

@DamnVanne.
"All you cretins that think women make this shit up for no reason other than to ruin a man’s career are gonna watch how you act toward women you want to put stuff in and that’s really all that matters"

Wahou. The level of idiocy. Man, you're the perfect specimen. Pure brainwashed idiot.
Just listen to yourself. If we don't take her laughable testimony seriously, if we dare know that women are not harmless angels and they can lie (oh lord they couldn't could they ?), suddenly we're the kind of guy who don't watch how we act towards women "we want to put stuff in" (I love the self-hate here) And that's all that matters.
The gap in logic is exactly what the #metoo movement is about: "If you disagree, you hate women and you're a rapist."

And thanks to this stupid thread I forgot to prepare her bread and butter and coffee to my girlfriend and didn't go wake her up with a kiss like every morning.
SEE #metoo is harmful to women !

Shut the fuck up Kevin, you're just proof that all people named Kevin are fuckin losers.

isn't the name kevin equivalent to the n word in germany

"you're overestimating the intelligence of the userbase, man"

It happens all the time around here.

pls no religion or polltics in my twitch chat

'I would tend to assume there's no real benefit for her coming out with this, so something might have happened. As to what exactly it was only those two would have any idea.'

I'm not going to try and argue that we shouldn't take these allegations seriously but she is an 'Instagram artist' and the publicity is most certainly going to help her profit from all this

"All you cretins that think women make this shit up for no reason other than to ruin a man’s career are gonna watch how you act toward women you want to put stuff in and that’s really all that matters"

Lol, ok what the hell is this? No, I think people are not just blindly taking anyone at their word, regardless of which side of the fence that may be. Do I disbelieve this woman? Not necessarily, I have absolutely no clue what happened. Even as a huge fan of the band I also can't seriously say he didn't do it just based on his word. All we have is one person's word against another, but there's also the possibility they simply interpreted the events differently i.e. neither one is outright lying.

Is it possible she would make this up, or take advantage of a drunken liaison from her past for the extra publicity/attention? Sure, that's also a possibility. People fabricate things for personal gain all the time.

I realise this is just a very long comment which essentially says idk what happened, no-one apart from the alleged victim/perpetrator does & even then they could be mistaken due to drunkenness, but whatever.

"I'm not going to try and argue that we shouldn't take these allegations seriously but she is an 'Instagram artist' and the publicity is most certainly going to help her profit from all this"

The attention she will be receiving from this will be incredibly toxic, so it's most likely not really worth it. I mean just look at this thread. Like Demon said could be lying could be telling the truth, we may never actually know.

I don't immediately assume someone is lying based on their profession. You could say the same thing about Stormy Daniels or the Playboy lady were making stories just for the attention but I think we all believe those encounters happened. So it's a bit of a jump to assume because she's an IG girl this is just for attention, at the same time you can't completely rule it out. I'm more curious if she's going to take the allegations somewhere or just drop it. The move I find more interesting is that he immediately drops out of the band. While it's not an admission of guilt or anything there didn't seem to be much hesitation so it is a curious path to take so quickly imo.

Kevin, you incompetent prick,
Sexual violence toward women and patriarchal indifference toward it is a serious fucking problem that is literally older than agriculture. So when you say the metoo movement, the first direct assault on the issue that I think has existed in the modern age, is simply about putting women's testimony on a pedestal, you are being a dick. I’m gonna assume youre not a Neanderthal and know that rape (any form of it) leaves little to no evidence and so demanding physical evidence is an explicit form of dismissal favoring rapists. That means you’re just morally on the side of rapists and hiding behind this fucked up facade of a perverted justice cuz you don’t comprehend that some sex could be unwated. This is why people opposed to social justice in this context get painted as incels.

"The attention she will be receiving from this will be incredibly toxic, so it's most likely not really worth it. I mean just look at this thread. Like Demon said could be lying could be telling the truth, we may never actually know."

Agreed hard. Anyone can say ANYTHING on the Internet, like I say [insert user name here] is a serial killer/psychopath.

By the way, I'm sorry for my statement earlier, it cause a bit of a shitstorm here. It just that I feel like this site (or even the whole society) is so divided about that topic, and people take the news so seriously, and it appears almost constantly, not just in the US, but in here Hong Kong. Besides, the example that I use in that, I also find it's a bit inappropriate as well, as these two are two very different cases.

"can we permaban sexual/allegation news threads"

The answer, my darling, is to simply ban Toondude.

It was only a matter of time. 50% of males apparently commit sexual assault

If we're using a definition so loose as to allow the number to reach 50% then I've been sexually assaulted by girls more times than I can count.

I bet toondude has never been sexually assaulted.

NawwutI'msayin'??

Yea you do.

"It was only a matter of time. 50% of males apparently commit sexual assault"

homo-erotic bro behaviors count, so it'd be a believable statistic.

It's sarcasm obv but this shit always seems like nonsense to me. "After all these years I came forward" lol k. Funny how sooooooo many people were sexually assaulted and just let it slide until it became trendy to accuse people on social media

"I woke up with the feeling of being penetrated without my consent during a deep slumber."

o.k.

"Shut the fuck up Kevin, you're just proof that all people named Kevin are fuckin losers."

#notallKevins

#yesallKevins

I have









By Darius

I'm a pretty ok Kevin, dude. get to know me

That sounds exactly like what a predatory Kevin would say to lure me.

"Sexual violence toward women and patriarchal indifference toward it is a serious fucking problem that is literally older than agriculture"

false. once humans became sedentary, egalitarianism then slowly flew out the window, not before.

Every Kevin I've known in real life has been a jackass.

boys, trust me. I'm so fucking cool. anyone wanna play some WoW? I'll show you all how cool I am

"Idk I think this whole rape culture thing is bs. They apparently didn't have the courage to report it immediately after the fact, when it could have had far greater legal significance. Would you report a mugging? An assault? A murder? Why the fuck wouldn't you report someone who raped or molested you?"

A psychologist could explain it to you and you would still be unwilling to change your mind, moving on.

lol you're mtf so why don't you just finish windexing your glass house.

Erase the meaning of words.
It’s all a scheme to further dilute everything so everyone can be controlled.

I like to imagine zak wrapped in a tinfoil snuggie, being sustained by Breitbart blog posts.

Foil wrapped zak.

Swish!

It was a good year

I was -12 years old. Therefore it must have sucked.

Kk but nobody asked you bb.

Shut up.

"Funny how sooooooo many people were sexually assaulted and just let it slide until it became trendy to accuse people on social media"

most of the time it's socially, financially, and/or politically disadvantageous to accuse people in your community of doing awful things like that. Particularly if they're famous or rich, then unless your accusations look air-tight you'll be accused of being a golddigger or a "slut who had it coming", and oftentimes victims of assault just figure it'd be less traumatic to let it go than make a confrontation. Like ffs everyone liked Matt Lauer and look how long it took for those women to get up the nerve to risk accusing him. If someone in your clique or community does something similar, there are social pressures that discourage saying bad things about them.

"Hows the quest platnum? "

What quest?


"Lol you're mtf so why don't you just finish windexing your glass house."

Who are you and how do you know anything about me? Creep

Cause you're fucking loud.

Letters on a screen have no sound

I hear them.

Zar hit it on the head.

"The one where you kill all men remember"

Quit projecting this nonsense onto me

"if you think about it... it's possible to be a pretty loud person even through text"

All I do is type my thoughts, I know you guys don't like what I have to say but that isn't my problem. I don't like what a lot of peeps say on here either but they have a right to speak their mind too.

No.

This isn't the best way to get my attention tbh

Compromise. Blame toondude.

Nothing cause I have no idea what he'd look like and wouldn't know it was him.

Probably decapitate him idk.

petition to nominate Christopher Geriak for the pulitzer prize

"Funny how sooooooo many people were sexually assaulted and just let it slide until it became trendy to accuse people on social media"

uh isnt that the whole point of the movement lol

decapitating someone might be hard tho

toondude hasn't even commented on this and he posted it lol

@sowing

I'll do it with a butter knife.

how would u know its toondude and not talonsonfire

Cause Darius said I would know.

considering they're the same person I think you'd be alright

I don't make the rules here.

Look, I'm just a good Samaritan, not tryna ruin an innocent person's life.

imo this topic is quite inflammatory but for some reason i haven't seen a thread about it delve into shit-slinging contests like discussions about more mundane issues idk

like there's dumb arguments everywhere but no one gets too personal -- tho i think someone commented about platnum being trans so idk

maybe that's why the mods haven't made them a felony

how's being trans equal to being a sjw

i guess trans people are guilty of being sjw until proven innocent

Look at Jacob Royal - biggest sjw loony I know. Kitsch also comes to mind, and those are just Sputnik people

Thread is finally picking up !

Hesp also comes to mind

beware the essjaydubyas

"like there's dumb arguments everywhere but no one gets too personal -- tho i think someone commented about platnum being trans so idk"

i would rather keep personal things out of it buuuut the same cant be said for other people

idk what he was implying but probably something transphobic (dare i use the word correctly)

Lol I'm just trying to get a rise out of you Plat, you know I like you

that last comment was referring to ghost btw

i dont truly have ill feelings toward you either gyro

see? y'all somewhat civil itt

s-internet

sinternet?

oh no

"dare i use the word correctly"

Nice try but no.

"Nice try but no."

Well since you have yet to clarify what you meant by the comment I'm just going off assumptions

You're welcome.

#notallKevs

everyone that left a comment in this thread is going to hell

lol

what if we were already going to hell

This thread is hell

at first I assumed the drummer was innocent like all men usually are, but then it was revealed that he married a huge feminist lady which makes him a big time male feminist, and we all know that they are ALL huge perverts. So now I assume he is guilty of this as well as many other crimes against humanity.

Victims are rarely believed is why they usually don't come out.
When someone is assaulted then blamed for being assaulted all you assholes wonder why they stay quiet.
Take some other countries for example, get raped and you need five witnesses to prove you got raped. Ok yea that makes sense.
Oh you got raped? Well you shouldn't have been dressed like that. You shouldn't have done XYZ. Somehow in sexual assault cases it often comes back to hey victim you are the reason this happened to you.
It has nothing to do with the victim and everything to do with the piece of shit who thought taking something that wasn't offered to them was ok.
Think about when you were younger and some girl didn't like you. What was the advice?
Keep trying until she realizes how great you are, and you wonder how some people take that to the extreme.

it could be your own mother and you'd never know cuz they'd hide it for your own good plus other reasons

this was an excellent read with my coffee just now id like to thank all participants

JAV is on the pointiest of all points

"it could be your own mother and you'd never know cuz they'd hide it for your own good plus other reasons"

this x 100

mom harassed 100 times

this thread was a bad idea

These threads should be locked before anybody can comment tbh

it wasn't even that bad tbh

it wasnt that bad until darius "the great", ghost and gyromania started acting like twits

Keyblade is becoming a thread snob

Good thread. Makes me feel better about myself, knowing I'm not the biggest piece of shit out there.

Anyways, the story sounds a bit strange and vague from her part, but the dude stepping down immediately is fishy too, if he truly is innocent. Oh well, guess we'll never know.

I definitely feel like my somewhat sensible comments have been wasted amongst all the pre-school banter. Nobody should take any of it seriously though.

“If it’s legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down,” Todd Akin former Missouri Congressmen.

That's the level of ignorance we're dealing with on a national level. I cannot verify her story but dismissing it is not the way to go either.

so you just take their word for it in terms of the legal prosecution process? its either or, we either stick to evidence based justice or go by people's word

it sucks that evidence based justice means a ton of justice will not be had but to go ahead and allow room for false accusations to ruin innocent lives in turn is absolutely insane

sinternet touched my dick can we off him now or

im not even gonna reply to any replies to my post im not getting sucked into poli debates on here anymore but ~food for thought~

no one in their right mind would touch your dick homie

believe all accusers homie

"so you just take their word for it in terms of the legal prosecution process?"

who's talking legal prosecution?

*sees user scream has an interview* scream touched my dick please disregard his app thank you

neat

"*sees user scream has an interview* scream touched my dick please disregard his app thank you"

But chuck touched me first!

victim blaming? that doesn't equal consent

Guess they're gonna have to find a new guy to hit a snare drum with a brush once every minute

lol

basically if your famous just record all sexual encounters..

if your innocent that is..

my innocent what

boom roasted

xD

why would he resign if he claims he's innocent?

ughhhh good fucking god

"so you just take their word for it in terms of the legal prosecution process? its either or, we either stick to evidence based justice or go by people's word

it sucks that evidence based justice means a ton of justice will not be had but to go ahead and allow room for false accusations to ruin innocent lives in turn is absolutely insane

sinternet touched my dick can we off him now or"

If she takes it to court she will need evidence or at least enough proof to support her story which becomes a whole other thing. The entire system we have for prosecuting these types of crimes is appalling, just look up the state of rape kit testing. The scheduling for testing is years behind, sometimes they aren't stored properly or destroyed without testing because they have piled up so many.
So not saying everyone should just take her word and jail him with no trial but she shouldn't be attacked for coming forward either. It's hard enough to prove her case as it is since it doesn't sound like she went to the police afterwards. If these people weren't harassed into oblivion we would probably have a better system in place to deal with these things.
If we look at history is it really that surprising sexual assault is more common than you think?

she deserved it

don't get mad cuz you set yourself up for "you're actually not 'great'" jokes

Don't understand the meaning of "leave me alone"

No I'm not scared of what you will say to me or anyone else, I've become completely numb to any insult you can come up with, I've heard it all before. Anytime situations happen like yesterday I relive all my past traumas, atm I feel depressed and couldn't sleep last night. If you can't understand this you need help

Once again I will ask you again to please leave me alone

dude you should give zero credence to what people think about in the real world let alone on the internet, grow some thicker skin

What do you hope to gain by this interaction darius?

I was stalked and personal information was used against me and I'm not allowed to feel upset about it? Miss me with this

All I really said to you was leave me alone, you're acting like a creepy psychopathy right now

"grow some thicker skin"

Literally what every abusive person says, yikes

c'mon

"Why do you avoid every question people ask of you"

Like you just dodged my question? Lol

This is why I told you I won't explain myself because you would find a way to turn it on me andddd here we are

" Literally what every abusive person says, yikes"

LMFAO

this may just be my favorite moment in mxtab history

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Chuck you are acting like a 12 year old

Idc what you have to say

ironic comment

" Idc what you have to say"

very good, ur learning

stop commenting and go CHECK GROTESQUE

"Im fine with leaving you be if you don't post random insults in my shoutbox for no goddamn reason and disabling yours so i have to resort to this to get a reason why. Ive done quite literally nothing to provoke you. Golden rule applies even on the internet. We can go our separate ways, kapeesh?
"

Yes no reason at all, like whenever I give out my thoughts on sexual assault stuff you're always like "how's that quest to kill all men" once again turning something around on me.

I don't have to deal with your behavior. "Fk off" is a mean way of saying leave me alone but it would be a stretch to call it an insult.

stoggaf

@Chuck

I disagree with you that what we say to other people doesn't matter

Happy now? You won't change my mind on this so have a nice day n goodbye.

So you get offended by what I say to the point where you follow me around with your lame jokes

And when I have issues with things I need to leave the site, holy shit what logic

??????

Delusions of grandeur

Outsmarted ? You have a twisted sense of reality

This wasn't a fkin debate

Hahahahahahahahahha

“I disagree with you that what we say to other people doesn't matter
Happy now? You won't change my mind on this so have a nice day n goodbye”

that is your problem and your problem only, you make your own bed

You being a douchebag is also your own problem, certainly not mine.

Take a breather guys and gals. Your conversation is sterile

so pleasant

"Alright been a pleasure arguing circles with you but alas I've just gotten home and have more important matters to attend to, have a good night/day/whatever the hell it is where you are"

Imagine that, this whole convo could of been avoided if you took the advice I gave you in your shoutbox lol

Bye darius

"grow some thicker skin" that's psoriasis