lol

he showed them

all i hear is "wahh wahh my life sucked because of decisions i made and we're done now because of a few stupid people saying mean things on the internet." what a jackass.

I hate it when I'm bleeding through a farewell rant

band name brings tampons to mind, which makes a lot of sense actually

all that being said, he makes some valid points.

you think you're clever, necro?


if I was him, I'd kept my dignity and wouldn't have done the rant.
but then again people behind internet screens don't understand how really tough it is out there. fans
think they're entitled to the music and take it for granted, and it sucks but then again people behind
screens don't understand or care, posting whatever "clever" comments they can squeeze out of their
creative juices.

I wish him the best with his gym at least.

I always lol when band guys try to garner some sympathy by giving you the ol' "I looked at myself in the mirror and hated what I saw, that is why I make music". Like that makes you and your music more sincere or some shit.

The metal scene would be better if it wasn't driven by low self esteem and memories of being bullied freshman year

butthurt

The metal scene would be better if it wasn't driven by low self esteem and memories of being
bullied freshman year

he's holding 45lbs each hand that's not much

plus it always hilarious that people who go out of the way to say they dont care what others think always care the most about that others think

i'm like 3 times that so yeah

lol andcas

Best Of Bleeding Through : Still Insecure After All These Years

Their selling this on their farewell tour

What a drama queen.

swole or not, he's a whiny fuck. why would you even address fans that talk shit like that? act like you've been in the game since '99, not some mental-midget rookie

u might sing a different tune if this was baroness wouldn't u lol

and a picture doesn't really prove anything bro. need video footage of at least 8 quality reps.

not some stop motion crap

Didnt Trustkill fuck these guys over?

I wish him the best with his gym at least. (2)

trustkill fucked them over hard like they did with hopesfall

Still one of my favorite bands of all time and wish the best for his gym even if it is full of gimmicky crossfit bullshit.

if that baroness comment was for me, same tune. i would expect they might throw out some diatribe like this if that's how they felt. they're like that it seems

crossfit what the hell are you talking about

and nah that wasn't directed at you

lol crossfit isn't gimmicky tho. maybe if you're a slender boy yea

I get the vibe that Baroness already know there is no money in the music industry

Think his vagina was bleeding through the whole rant

he doesn't strike me as the body type that is going for mass so much as an efficient strength and muscle flexibility

so idk, he might have good strength for his build

can i just say i hate reading white text on black backgrounds it hurts my eyes when i look away

What exactly did they do to these guys/ hopesfall

for hopesfall, according to wiki:

the label altered the track listing for Magnetic North without the band's knowledge, and in an interview in the wake of the band's breakup, former drummer Jason Trabue accused the label of providing the band with insufficient promotion and financial support throughout their tenure on Trustkill, as well as withholding royalties. In response to the MySpace bulletin announcing the band's breakup and revealing their distaste for their former label, as well as the interview with Trabue, Trustkill founder Josh Grabelle denied the accusations and leveled his own unsubstantiated allegations of drug use by the band as a cause for the breakup

No no it wasn't me it was the band they were on drugs you see

"If we aren't worth it to drive a few miles away from your city to see Bleeding Through one more time then so be it."

Fuck this attitude. What he calls a "few miles" is a few hundred miles for some people.

laguna hills music scene brings the feels

I'm Balls fuckos. But I don't know, his training stuff is way too new school for me personally. Still cool though, I would love to check it out if im on the west coast.

saw bleeding through in Chicago back in 2010. For Today opened for them and the entire room cleared out before bleeding through started playing. Once Bleeding Through got on stage and saw 13 mall goths left on the floor, the vocalist threw a temper tantrum and started crying about how he hates Christians and Christian bands.

I'm going to say this guy has a bad case of buttpain year round

not that new school. it's just getting more mainstream now. still expensive as fvck tho


most of this stuff has been done by elite training staffs for years now

Generic metalcore, butthurt angst, and phoned-in black metal portions

Good band, I'd say

Pretty sure I saw them on that same tour and year but at Culture Room. They had a solid crowd but I mean I understand his butthurtness there.

Whatever burnt out band but it still sucks that metal bands cant even make enough profit after touring
to pay their bills

who are you?

For me all I need is the basics, 10 x 10, 8 x 8, 5 x 5, super sets and rest pause. Keep weight moderate, heavier, and heaviest and just alternate. Been doing fine with that personally for a long time.

i would never argue that's a bad way to go. just not the most efficient use of body mechanics and such. so many little muscles that don't get used when doing the same traditional ROMs

"I'm going to end this with a quote from Paul Rudd's character in the movie Forgetting Sara Marshall 'when life hands you lemons say fuck the lemons and bail.'"

how edgy of him. because i've never hear this line quoted before by dozens of others who thought they were equally as clever.

I guess. I just fucking hate mixing cardio with lifting. Fucking burpees, deadlifts, cleans uhh.. god damnit do I hate circuit training.

dude why the hell are you banned

he is edgy tho. u didn't notice the black flag upper dong tat???????

it's not for everyone. it takes a certain amount of chode. agreed

I have no idea, whatevs though. I say we dedicate this thread from now on to lifting and manly bullshit that is not about butthurt sorrow. Starting off, tomorrow back and traps, basketball and bw legs later on.

lol u kids and your screens

I've seen bands go through worse. I've seen bands ask for floors to sleep on after playing their sets. So for me this is just whining because he decided to play the corporate game and it didn't work out like he expected.

Andcassaaaaaa bringin the truth.

eternium 4 pres

He's probably butthurt because their OC bros A7X made it to the big time.

I think more promotion and support from both the band and Rise they'd do a little better by now

Trustkill gimped them hard

that Irvine music scene is brooooooootal tho

123 andcas damn

you don't have to know anything about this band to know his butt is hurt


if i'm in a band, I understand that my band's inner workings are not always gonna get communicated to the masses, thus maybe not everyone will understand wtf is going on

no need to write a whiny letter to call out some fans that might get overly emotional

Love lost in a hail of gunfire.

like I said he prob shouldn't have done this

ur right i haven't, but i have done things that people went on to criticize because they might not have fully understood what was going on behind the scenes


i didn't write a lettter getting all whiny about it. i accept that they don't have all the facts and move on.

ok i'll say this and end my piece. its fine if he wants to bitch at the industry i guess, but calling out emotional fans who don't have all the facts was just lame in my opinion.

he comes off as bitter, which it seems you agree that he is. bitter is rarely ever an endearing trait

"i didn't write a lettter getting all whiny about it."

let's say if you started a band at 19 to relieve whatever teenage emotions only to have it evolve to something that loved doing and sharing enough to suffer enough to get signed. then get fucked over by the label hard. you'd be pretty disheartened by it all. and now record sales don't really mean shit and you'd have to hope that whatever audience attracted by the mediocre/scene bands that you're touring with buy your shit.
but then again I doubt it was bad since signing to rise. the trends changed and I don't think Bleeding Through was able to stand through it.
It's tough out there for musicians and that alone is a strong understatement. I don't think people doubt but they don't comprehend how bad it can get if you don't get your break.

He's got a right to be upset but you know what anytime a famous dude rants out of frustration like Cam Newton early on he always gets lambasted for it which is fuckied up. Human fucking beings man, they're fucking human beings. Now I have to listen to Black Eyed Peas.

"calling out emotional fans who don't have all the facts was just lame in my opinion."

I know you see it too when fan x says band y should tour to city z, and band would do so too but
there's too many factors involved to make it happen. so when the more idiotic fans take offence to it
they blast the band on facebook or whatever other outlet and it's unfair. I wouldn't take that shit
either.
I think for the fans that know they haven't done such things shouldn't get offended, yet I
guess what he said was a little too far for politeness's sake (but fuck that).

like i said, i understand if he wants to lash out at the industry, but saying "WELL, FUCK YOU" to some unruly fans, was just sorta funny and very unnecessary to me


it's like saying "FUCK YOU!!!!" to a 2yr old kid that bad mouths you, when its clear they don't know wtf is going on

dude it's facebook. it's the internet. everyone knows ppl got huge balls online.

he's a big boy with muscles. he shouldn't even be tripping so hard. if someone said this to his face he can just handle it there, right?

just my opinion on it

well for a young kid it's different but for some privileged snotnose kid with internet access that
should know better, there's no excuse. I'd take my belt and whip his ass in front of his parents and
tell them that this is what they should be doing if they ever talk like that to strangers. it's those
same shitty fans that don't really buy anything and think they're entitled for the music they take for
granted.

"dude it's facebook. it's the internet. everyone knows ppl got huge balls online."

yeah I can tell that you're one of them too

This nigga be actin' three kinds of diagonal, especially w/ his 15 lb. plates.

@andcas

hating yourself does not improve your music/career/ethics. It just makes you more annoying. I can guarantee most genres are already filled with disillusioned self-loathing bigkids who get their boost of confidence from getting on stage.

You can tell his real feelings really bled through on this rant.


ha ha ha

was that worth it zach? was that worth your dignity?

and I'll bet even more that he was disgusted for his bandmates going through the same shit

yeah I can tell that you're one of them too

empathy doesn't exist on the internet

i get it. he's pissed. you guys clearly feel he's justified in lashing out at some e-thugs. while i don't agree or disagree on
that, I do think it's quite comical in that he can't just accept that not everyone is gonna understand where he's coming
from

kinda like how i'm calmly having this convo with the both of you, instead of you know, getting all butthurt because you
might not understand where my opinion is coming from

it's because they're a metalcore band

There's a lesson here.

Get your education

well yeah I can't disagree with that

Rant wasn't a good way to handle the way he's feeling, but I do feel bad for the guy, and any other musician that comes out of a long run feeling mostly regret and anger.

no one cares

damn bro. i'm really worried about you


wasn't saying u guys are butthurt. was referencing the singer in that he got butthurt when ppl didn't understand his intentions fully, which should somewhat be expected out of life in general

it's not about his intentions but more that he got fed up with the injustice and the outcome of things

but that happens when you try hard to stand your ground in what you think you're doing right

wait, so how do you explain his "fuck you" directed to the fans that did a 180 on him?

is that part of the injustice? i mean i get how it's related, but it's still no reason for all that

i explained it already

oh yeah. the injustice gives him a free pass to blast his fans with profanities. got it

for a young kid it's different but for some privileged snotnose kid with internet access that should know better, there's no excuse. I'd take my belt and whip his ass in front of his parents and tell them that this is what they should be doing if they ever talk like that to strangers. it's those same shitty fans that don't really buy anything and think they're entitled for the music they take for granted.

I think for the fans that know they haven't done such things shouldn't get offended

i can see his point but he went about it in a beta way

AWWW SHIIIEEETTTT

AWWW SHIIIEEETTTT

i'm not offended though. i just think his actions are funny

yeah i already know we disagree, andcas

Hey Dunpeal, and anyone sharing this bullshit view, I hope you get the opportunity to go through life being spit on a ridiculed mercilessly by thousands of people for years. I hope one day you understand what it feels like to have people you don't know threatening to kill you, wishing you were dead or fucked up. I don't think you can even remotely understand what it feels like. He's lasted 14 years in the business taking this shit from assholes like you, claiming that you just have to man up and that 'it's just a part of the biz'

It shouldn't be something that artists have to go through. You don't like an artist, don't support them. Don't hate on them and whine about how they should have bigger fucking balls because they create something. For the record, I don't think he sounded whiny at all. He sounded pissed because people keep treating him and his band like they're worthless.

I can't stand the man's music, but he has a very valid point in his rant.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7831-Go-Fish

It's about the game industry instead of the music industry, but the main idea applies in this case

all luv bro


except for Oneiron, idk what his prob is. might be a case of the butthurts

It's a case of 'I hate entitled, flippant assholes.' I stand by what I said, you think he needs to grow a pair and deal with it, I want you to go through the same thing. If you think it should be easy for him to be hated simply because he's in a band I want you to undergo the exact same treatment. I want people to treat you and everyone with that view like you're all lower than shit. It's not butthurt, it's fed up.

Butthurt is a word pathetic egotistical cowards hide behind when they can't take someone standing up for something. You make me sick.

"My response to those comments is FUCK YOU! If we aren't worth it to drive a few miles away from your city to see Bleeding Through one more time then so be it"

fuck this guy

i can take someone standing up for something just fine. i fail to see how telling someone "FUCK YOU" over something that the person clearly didn't have all the details on makes a person righteous and justified

All that needed to be given was a simple explanation of why his band couldn't visit certain spots. It's called taking the high road, but I guess you feel it's better to fight asshole with asshole and call it taking a stand.

to each his own i guess. I still disagree and say you're butthurt over nothing though

Whoa there oneiron you may wanna check your anal cavities for possible buttruptures

Here's a tip to guys in trendy fad metal bands: quit when you can't ride the trend anymore. Hot topic blackened death core has been dead forever.

I really liked Declaration.

I fail to see how the people attacking the band for not playing in their town was justified. Their aggression was obviously the straw that broke the camel's back. I don't understand why everyone's chiding the singer instead of asking why 'fans' act like whiny, entitled children throwing a tantrum when everything isn't perfect for them. You're defending the people who antagonized in the first place, and laying blame on someone for throwing the second punch. He wasn't saying 'FUCK YOU' to all of his fans, just a probably fairly small portion of them.

Part of being in a band is getting shit talked by 22 year old perma virgins from behind a computer screen, what's the problem here? It's tradition dude. Do you not honor tradition?

This rant was fucking lame. Dudes juicing hard.

I read this this morning.

I can see what he's getting at, but the dude can afford to open up his own gym, so he can't be that bad off.

Fuck this. Chuck P's RANT is so much better

was that worth it zach? was that worth your dignity?

sounds like the last time he had sex

For the record, Dunpeal wasn't defending the spoiled jackasses. He was more standing up for the people who couldn't make it to the shows for genuine reasons.

Awaiting Andcas to come in and tell you how insensitive you all are.

i fail to see how telling someone "FUCK YOU" over something that the person clearly didn't have all the details on makes a person righteous and justified

Part of being in a band is getting shit talked by 22 year old perma virgins from behind a computer screen, what's the problem here? It's tradition dude. Do you not honor tradition?

He was more standing up for the people who couldn't make it to the shows for genuine reasons.

I used to love this band a while back and I still put them on from time to time (good pump-up music). I totally agree with this guy and I don't blame him for whining because I can only imagine how rough it is to make music and tour behind it. Don't treat this like it's the first time a band member of any sorts has gone off the rails and done an internet rant.

Part of being in a band is getting shit talked by 22 year old perma virgins from behind a computer screen, what's the problem here? It's tradition dude. Do you not honor tradition?

It just seems like he couldn't handle being in a band

if that was the case he wouldn't have been in a band for 14 years

cmon guys at least think before typing

Well they deserve hate. So. Man Up! Bitch

I don't understand why everyone's chiding the singer instead of asking why 'fans' act like whiny, entitled children throwing a tantrum when everything isn't perfect for them. You're defending the people who antagonized in the first place, and laying blame on someone for throwing the second punch.

Well complaining about relentless touring conditions and fans unwilling to accept the band sure as hell makes it seem like he can't cope well enough to function in an active band

I woulda thought of all bands that Bleeding Through would've made some money.

And is it just me or is "recently wrote an angry entry on his blog" really...weak sounding? Like OH NO GUYS HE JST
BLOGGED ABOUT US

I don't blame the guy. If he wants to rant then let him rant. It's a good way to release his emotion and anger. He deserves that much.

Don't know why everyone is so critical. It's not like anyone here actually knows what he's been through.

"It's not like anyone here actually knows what he's been through."

I think I know the he's been...BLEEDING THROUGH AM I RIGHT

Let me know when you grow a dick

None of us know what it's like to make rape accusations either but I bet you're not defending the Gaza-breaker-upper bitch, are you?
This analogy TOTALLY applies.

seems like you're not familiar with that case though

so it doesn't apply

he chose that life, he has no right to whine about it. if the lifestyle wasnt worth being able to continue making music with his band, he should have left. also, dumb kids on the internet are going to say dumb things. most bands are mature enough to realize this and shrug off the hate. bottom line, the guy is a whiney manchild.

So, from what I read, he was a social reject who grew up to continue being a social reject and is now
pissed because he is too retarded to understand markets or the sort of fans that having a gimmicky and
superficial band attracts.

"He sure showed them." [1234]

@wizard

I was in a band for a while. If you get upset from rude comments on the Internet you may as well not even bother being in a band. The butthurt in this thread is one notch away from "leave Britney alone" mode.

Well said Italian. Still doesn't make it right for people use the net to slander people/ bands. I only comment on the music and the music alone.

I think what some of you are forgetting is that internet trolling didn't really reach musicians ears and eyes until the last few years. I doubt that bands formed in the 90s or earlier could ever really conceive that dealing with bitch ass trolls on facebook and around the web would be a big aspect of being active in music.

Would totally love to see these dudes one last time. There isn't a close enough show for me though. They had a solid run.

he chose that life, he has no right to whine about it.

Actually, he has every right. This is the internet, he can do whatever he wants.

Whoa, totally agree with Andcas for once.

He's right.

Many people in this comment section only prove the legitimacy of what he's saying.