Does this mean that Tim Lambesis is no longer in jail? I thought he got sentenced to ten years.

he got out last year

He got released after like two weeks for "good behavior".

two years, but close enough.

Thanks for the update

The other guys said they're not coming back

As I lay crying with joy!!!

I think we're in a situation where it's really ok to forget the whole thing ever happened. I like the extract, I hope they reformed with the same line-up, let's put the past behind, Awakened was an accident, I'm sure Lambesis won't reoffend.

Bass, guitars and drum kit are signature brand equipment. Definitely seeing some familiar tattoos too.

I'm on the fence. Kinda want to hear new music from the band that was my obsession in high school. And it'll be sort of interesting to see how the lyrics turn out. I dunno.

sounds like it’ll be a real hit

I fucking KNEW IT

Can we all take a moment to appreciate how fucking banging his lawyer must have been to get homeboy two years for trying to have somebody offed?

Hooray new mediocre metalcore from an attempted murderer. I will say though I’m intrigued as to what the hell the lyrics are gonna be about.

he was sentenced for six

And his lawyer got him out in two.

ah, misread your first post

my bad Ghost

"Can we all take a moment to appreciate how fucking banging his lawyer must have been to get homeboy two years for trying to have somebody offed?"

I know who I'm hiring the next time I get into trouble!

NOthing

THATS IT, IM LEAVING AGAIN.

Wonder how many songs will talk about regret, moving on, and forgiving people for idiotic things they've done in their life??? hmmmmmm

@calmrose - No worries mang.

@derkaderkamohamedjihad - First single is called "She Had It Coming" so idk...

I'll be severely disappointed in the Wovenwar guys if they rejoin this.

And you know that if Lambesis really did "rediscover his faith" in jail then this is gonna be preachy as all fuck and won't even have a reference to Tim's roid tits.

please god no

Amazing news. Let's see what will happen

"Can we all take a moment to appreciate how fucking banging his lawyer must have been to get homeboy two years for trying to have somebody offed?"

god bless the usa

Teaser sounds pretty cool. I wouldn't mind if they reunited.

That half second of riffage at the very end did sound kinda nice

How about let's just not.

hope this band and album bomb

Isn't it ridiculous how they condemned him when he was sent to prison but now they're all cool. I mean which is it? Oh, it's all bout the money? Hm.

it was already confirmed they aren't back tho....

I feel like I should care more about him trying to murder his wife(nostalgia bias?). I also haven’t really liked anything from these guys since the powerless rise but I’d still be interested in hearing a new album. He really just needs to get Pyrithion goin again tho

Are you saying murdering your wife is a not so christian thing to do? How dare u! we are all in god's image.

So people are still willing to support this guy?
Hard pass for me.

I’m surprised there isn’t anybody itt already saying you gotta “separate the art from the artists hurdurr” as Sputnik so collectively likes to chant sometimes

Or does that not apply here lol

its just plain ol' attempted murder

its not like he inquisition'd a kid

I mean haven’t we all temporarily lost our minds to steroids use, obsessing over body image and tried to kill our SO? I think we’ve all been guitly of that at some point

@MuhNamesTyler to be fair she did cheat on him so idk maybe it was justified. We can still enjoy the music I guess.

Liked them in high school but this is still gonna be a hard pass.

She’d have to gangbang like 97 dudes right in front of him for it to be justifitied or something haha. I’m just sayin I feel like it should bother me a lil more

Regardless of my opinion of Tim, that teaser sounded cool

We all know that in 2018 attempting to murder a woman is fine, it's attempting to look at/talk to/flirt with/have sex with her that can get your life destroyed.

Oh man

The people that are getting #metoo'd haven't been to jail for what they did. The justice system saw him as rehabilitated and safe to release. I don't personally think he should be free yet but the situations aren't even comparable.

Honestly does anyone still care about Tim’s offense? Looking forward to hearing new jams from these guys.

Nothing

This comment section is a shambles jfc

Honestly does anyone still care about Tim’s offense?

Yes. Yes they do.

Looking forward to hearing new jams from these guys. [2]

I've said it on a million threads before, and I'll say it again. Separate the artist from the art. This teaser actually sounds promising and I was never too big a fan of As I Lay Dying.

"separate the artist from the art" has got to be the most nonsensical platitude i've ever heard

That's harsh.
I think this idea was born in order to defend artists who would subvert the establishment and who were wrongly accused of heinous crimes in order to discredit their work.
And there's also the fact that anybody can listen to As I Lay Dying, not know about the story and they will not suddenly go "Mmm... sounds like the music of a guy who would try to murder his wife."

This guy tried to have someone killed. Shove the “seperate the artist from the art” shit up your asshole.

@Yak: There's really no other alternative on how to say "listen to what you want, scummy people do scummy things, let the people involved and the police punish the shitheads" but it usually doesn't affect the quality of their music.

Except you're actively supporting shitty people and giving them money. Fuck that.

Lol Kenbo, have you never heard of Zippyshare?

I bet if amy schumer tried to kill a guy the same guys defending Lambesis’ music wouldnt be defending her movies.

And that’s what you call faux philosophical consistency folks.

Not everyone will pirate it, too many people don't care enough and want to give up their money.

The real question is: are we gonna get a new Austrian Death Machine album ?

:p

Amy Schumer openly admitted to raping a guy and made a career out of it, that's what's the most disgusting about that.

@Kenbo: Then that's on the people to not be lazy, if you don't want to support a scummy guy but enjoy their music? Just download it for free, it's not that hard.

I’m assuming you won’t offer your “defend the artist” thing then. Thank you for brilliantly proving my point.

It's not a "defend the artist" it's a "separate the artist", If you enjoy Amy Schumer, download her shit. You fucking ignoramus. My point still applies. I just think she's terrible either way.

ah! But you won’t actually defend her. Pussy.

"Amy Schumer openly admitted to raping a guy" WHAT !?!

I mean your basically listening to the dudes thoughts and beliefs through his music. Idk how finding out later that the person that wrote that is certifiably crazy can’t change how the music is perceived lol. It changes things

Yeah. The whole “defens fhe artist” thing jn this situation is faux “im a real intellectual” bullshit.

@Doc: Lmao, you're actually retarded. In no way do I defend any of the artists, I simply say "if you like their music but don't want to support them, download them instead of streaming or buying them." Only musicians I defend are ones that I enjoy who have a falsely earned negative reputation.

@Kevin: Yeah google it, she admitted to getting a guy so drunk he couldn't consent and climbed on top of him and raped him. (If it's rape when a guy does that to a girl, it's rape when a girl does that to a guy as well.)

Also my dude is double posting like crazy so gg

I literally haven't doubled posted a single time in this thread, get your eyes checked.

Tim will preach about how hard life is inside the can

Seperate the artist is an implicit defense if you cant see that you’re a tool

"This teaser actually sounds promising and I was never too big a fan of As I Lay Dying."


I don't know whether to call you an idiot, a poseur, a liar, an edgelord, or what. Some seconds of bullshit instrumental sounds promising to a non AILD fan, okay!

Lol not everything is a battle for social justice Doctuses, just shut up and enjoy the music you enjoy.

@Storm: The instrumental build up was nice, which is why I'm excited.

Yeah so editing your posts to make them sound better after the fact isnt double posting idc if thats not what called but cool

dressing it up with fancier words equals the same results. it's laughable

@Doc: So a person isn't allowed to edit their own posts to phrase their arguments in a debate better? Dude you're being so petty you're actually attacking argument clarity, lmao.

@Storm: I mean if you think it's laughable that's on you, but I'm excited for this to release.

Lol. Argument clarity is everything.

Doc, that's literally my point. You just proved my point. Holy shit you're figuratively more dense than a steel girder.

it depends if it's an immediate edit before anyone has responded or not. if you are fixing something right away that is normal. if you do it after someone has responded you probably need to be in a mental institution.

But I wouldnt expect a guy who listens to bitch tits lambesis to get it thats okay tho

@Storm: The corrections in this thread have all been meant to be edited before a response happens, it's not my fault if the person manages to respond within seconds.

then you're good

Thats what hes been doing lmao

@Storm: Cool fam, you got any new digs lately?

This thread fucking sucks

Do you like old school metalcore snide

@Tyler: Do you mean like Botch and stuff? If so yeah

literally all i meant by my comment is that art will always be an expression of the artist that made it, rendering "separating art from the artist" to be literally impossible. listen to whatever you like by all means, but understand there is a deep, inextricable link between what is produced and the person that produced it.

Not really botch style but you might dig if you’re in the mood

https://carrytheweightrecords.bandcamp.com/album/final-sacrifice

And what yak said [2]

@Yak: I understand that, and I do agree with you that there is a link between the artist and his craft of course. However, I also feel that given an artist's craft is their way of writing about their experiences, it can at times be powerful and poignant despite being the person himself shitty. I mean, (even though I only like one album by Brand New), let's take Brand New as an example, the dude ended up being a piece of shit, but realistically with self torturous lyrics like those would anyone have been truly surprised he did something to make himself feel that badly about himself?

@Tyler: I just checked out the track "Upon Deaf Ears" and holy shit this is fire, gonna check the whole thing.

I can't wait for the track of which the chorus will say "It's always better to do things yourself."
There we will really hear the link between the art and the artist.

"hiring a hitman who turned out to be an undercover detective"

oooh, didn't know about the undercover part lmao

Sweeeeet yeah the whole album is dope

@Tyler: I actually get Skycamefalling vibes from it a bit

They also met in a Barnes and Noble bathroom lol

Surprised if it's the old line-up. I remember reading some articles where the guys said some very strong words about Tim.

I'll listen to the record all the same. It isn't even separating the artist from the work at this point. We're just reaching a point where there is such a saturation of musicians/celebrities being shitheads that I effectively cannot care about it anymore. Like, I'm crossing my fingers for an Ameer Vann solo album now that he's out of Brockhampton.

I won't be excusing any of the shit people pull, but I'll keep my head down and listen to it all the same. Plus if you're pirating music you're not fiscally supporting them anyways.

Yeah that and a little bit of 7 angels 7 plagues

@Tyler: I don't think I've jammed 7 angels 7 plagues before

do it they slap

I'm too tired for this thread.

Yeah do it. Prob 100% chance you’d dig given you like skycamefalling and drawing my last breath

"I'm not going to buy his album because I don't support mean people" Grow up for christ sake.

Isn't it more grown up to not support shitty people?

It is rumored that surprisingly the previous line up is back

It's America, having someone murdered is a minor offense these days.

Well, for some people.

Fuck yeah

And yeah this thread is trash, gonna listen no matter what, even if Tim ends up blowing up a children's hospital

They should use Tim's tits as a marketing ploy tbh; for every copy of the album you buy, you'll receive a scantily clad photo. Every five purchases gets you a free nude

"Separate the art from the artist" gonna be pretty fucking hard when all of the lyrics are gonna be about what happened (even if from a really preachy or skirting around the main issue kind of way)

I loved their music back in the day but I won’t support anything involving Tim, he can fuck right off. I would love to see the band continue inI a similar style with a new screamer though.

I hope nobody saying they won't support AILD because of Tim listens to black metal because I have news for you

i won’t listen to AILD but that’s because their music is bad as opposed to the other very good reason not listen to them

If the notion is that you should be prohibited from listening to certain music because of the artists personal life when do we draw that line, out of curiosity? There's a lot of artists who are down right scumbags. So I'm just curious according to the thought police at which point enough is enough and I can no longer listen to a band because of what somebody in it did. Right now I am conflicted, I deleted have of my catalog due to this I'm looking to get a few tracks back hopefully. Plz confirm !!!!!!!!!

lol

You can bet your ass the lyrics are going to paint Tim as the victim.

This is gonna be incredibly fucking lame.

DreamAgain quit being a tryhard you blowhard

It's probably gonna sound really dated

Fuck Tim and all that but you bet your ass I'm going to pirate this album.

Who gives a fuck if he tried to get his wife killed get over it nerds she probably deserved it anyway

Yikes. AILD was like one of my favorite bands throughout my teen years, but fuck this.

does he still have bitchtits

Tim Lambitchass.

Anyways, sort of interested to see where this goes.

Nonetheless I hope the sput crew keeps us all abreast of the situation as it develops. Knowing some people they'll probably milk it for all it's worth though, especially if it goes tits up.

Lol

Y'all need to quit acting like such boobs

Maybe Varg had to step aside so that Tim could live.

I LONG TO SEE HIS TITTIES

REGARDLESS OF THE DECAY

FOR IN THE EYES

OF THE DOUBLE D'SSSSSSS

why tho

We would see hoooope...in our last daaaaayyyy
For there are still...there are still boobaaaaayyyys

LMAO niiiiice

As a huge, huuuuge fan of AILD back in high school, imagine being that guy that's actually excited for this and thinks Tim's actions are actually forgivable lmao

Forgivable or not, don't see what's wrong with looking forward to dem jams.

If mammary serves I never actually liked AILD anyway. I'm just here for the puns.

loooool

This guy probably has a lot on his chest

Nooooooooooooo, tits is who we are

A grade comment shark

I've only heard Shadows Are Security but it slays tbh. Gotta get their other stuff eventually.

learning through struggle on guitar was the height of my 7th grade experience

"Who gives a fuck if he tried to get his wife killed get over it nerds she probably deserved it anyway"

Comments like these are what's wrong with the metal community.

But what instrument will Tim's post-roid-moobies play?

I thought the story went that he was framed and coerced into "hiring a hitman" when in actuality the guy soliciting the "service" was an undercover cop. from what I read he was asked like multiple times until Tim finally broke and just said yeah whatever sure.

its not like he went out on his own to do this, he would've just went and physically harmed her himself if those were his intentions

"it's not like he went out on his own to do this"

Lamboobies gave the "hitman" 1000 dollars in cash and was going to give more when it was done. Gave the gate code and the times when his wife was gonna be there and not when his kids are there. I'm sure that was intention at the time.

“I’m sure”
how can we ever really be sure about anything :thinking: ?¿?¿?

How metal could your band possibly be if someone in it hasn't actively tried to murder some one?

'Infamous American not so Christian metalcore band' lol

wasn't this the band where the vocalist hired a hitman for his wife?

"How metal could your band possibly be if someone in it hasn't actively tried to murder some one?"

Lol

I don't give two fucks about their personal lives. I love their music. I'll probably buy it.

Or their faith, for that matter.

What he did was super shitty but the guy actually went to jail, did time and got out so where do you draw the line as far as not supporting goes? The point of incarceration is to come out rehabilitated and ready to join society again but that can never work if people refuse to support you in any way once you get out.

Tim was actually going around his gym asking people if they knew a hitman.

I just wanna hear some riffs, bangers, and breakdowns. Some of you are taking the separate the art from the artist thing WAY too literally. It's true there will always be a link between Tim and his music with AILD. But when the phrase was being used ITT it meant that people enjoy their style of metalcore and Tim's actions don't ruin it for them. As long as his delivery is solid, and the instrumentals are good, I'll probably download this for free. I don't care too much about the lyrics.

"The point of incarceration is to come out rehabilitated"

In theory but does it work in practice? Rates of recidivism in the US are like 75%.

The fact is, the only reason his ex-wife is alive is because he botched her hit. Maybe we shouldn't be so quick to forgive and forget.

Lmao I don't care about your rehabilitation for trying to have your wife murdered.

Oh wait, I forgot, it's user Scream never mind guys. Move right along.

Oh the irony ^

Omg those titty puns above are brilliant

I thought I was pushing it a bit far with some but I think they worked.

I dunno what the band's religious orientation is now, but, like Underoath, I am willing to be there will be one cuss word on the new album.

new single called My Own Grave is gonna be released on Friday.

https://pp.userapi.com/c846021/v846021654/6acba/VqWw7iBoGcQ.jpg

HYPE

Sweet art too

FOREVER
MY TITS
WILL HOLD THE MEMORY
I SAW
HIS DICK
AS IT OVERTOOK ME

Thanks Hell

I wonder how he's gonna sound after years of not screaming

I hear their new merch will include bras.

oh shiiittttt

"I wonder how he's gonna sound after years of not screaming"

i bet he had plenty of practice.

to be honest, gonna throw it out there that if you paid really hard attention to the dude's lyrics, kinda like a girl with an eating disorder, it seemed to me like the dude was aching to get caught, thrown all the way down to bottom, and start again with zero pride and a completely negative image.
Seemed to all be a self-fulfilling prophecy, and then he goes around his gym asking for a hitman. Sure, he gave a lot of information, but he did so to an undercover cop. at the end of the day, the dude seemed too smart for all this, and I bet he was just fucked up enough to want this all to happen. Maybe I read too much into things, but thats how it all seemed to me while it was going on, and after relistening to all his shit, thats how it seems to me even more now. Maybe its wishful thinking, but seems like he wanted to have everything change and himself get busted more than he actually would've wanted the result of his wife being murdered, which is why it never actually got done. Maybe he really just didn't want to pull the trigger himself... or maybe he was aching to get thrown in prison, because he felt he "needed to die to be reborn".
Hopefully he comes back and releases some bangers, like no metalcore bullshit, actual bangers. band was best generic metalcore band in existence. an evolution would be great, and it seems to be just what the man was after. Then again, maybe he is just a bitch with bitch tits trying to kill a bitch like a bitch. But here's a toast to wishing otherwise...

That sounds like a huge stretch, nobody wants to go to jail.

artwork is solid. Track title is worryingly unevolved.

^I think you're totally wrong.

not about it being a huge stretch, but about nobody wanting to go to jail. and its not really that he wanted to go to jail. its more like he wanted to put himself through jail and complete and utter defamation so as to force a change in his thought process.

not to bring up eating disorder again, but you wouldn't think someone would want to lose all their weight and deprive themselves of everything tasteful or associated with indulgence, nor would u think someone would be willing to deteriorate to the point of possible death. and yet, the ppl do it, and its usually cause they so fucked up to begin with that they subconsciously set themselves on a path of self-destruction hoping that mere desperation will make them compulsively change themselves since they compulsively lack the will otherwise, and yet yearn for it.

That's some serious mental gymnastics Mega!

Heard the new track releasing tomorrow, can confirm it's the old lineup.

the new track has leaked and it sounds pretty decent. and yeah sounds like the old lune up is indeed back

new track is tight, but pretty standard AILD, minus a bit of extra pizzaz in Tim's vox rhythm. was hoping for a deeper sound of sorts, but it doesn't disappoint.

https://youtu.be/kuzUsJdL1RM

New track

Pretty standard AILD track. Nothing stands out other than the fact that it has a similar sound to A Greater Foundation.

I found this interesting though; “In my convictions I've found my own grave, but amongst the dead we all fade away.” - Anodyne Sea

Looks like the story continues.

Damn, its already been taken down.

http://coreradio.ru/metalcore/20855-as-i-lay-dying-my-own-grave-single-2018

New track is great.

Solid track. Nothing groundbreaking but it's catchy

Standard AILD.

Shit's pretty dope

damn. this actually kinda rules.

Aye

really liked the new track

New song is amazing. And how the fuck do they look like they've barely aged.

I dunno man, dude looks pretty good.

Love the ending of the song too, heavy ass shit.

I only saw their video to see some boobies

Fuck. The song rules.

Aight the new song riffs hard, proper excited for the full album

dang, new song's really solid

With the entire old lineup too. The fuck.

Truly we live in the strangest timeline

new song slaps, blasted me back to high school

New track fucking slays

Glad to see people agree that the single is dope af

get to the choppppaaaa

Good song. Regardless of how you feel about Tim's batshit behavior, their next album is bound to be hard as fuck with the amount of upheaval the band has been through over the last seven years.

Regardless of how you feel about Tim's batshit behaviour (i.e. trying to have an innocent mother of 3 murdered), let's all give this "sociopathic narcissist" a second chance because RIFFS!

This world is broken beyond repair. Time to reset to factory settings.

RIFFS [2]

This is going to sound lame, but I've only heard ''Shadows Are Security'' and ''An Ocean Between Us'' by these guys. Very good albums.
Guess I should check out the rest huh?

Yeah dude, Ocean and Powerless are their top two imo. Awakened is also kinda underrated here.

Thanks.
Hope the rest isn't queef.

ASS i lay dying