R.I.P.

damn hope they're cool

"their van flipped just outside of Dallas causing damage."

well when you get in an accident, damage being caused is generally a given.

Get well!

This is seriously the worst thing that could happen to a band. Hoping that they get better and can salvage some funds.

At least with prices that low, they'll be able to afford some new Ugg Boots.

This was on their way to Dallas, the only one who wasn't in the hospital was the backup singer/guitarist and he played an acoustic set alone at their show last night

Another one? Damn

I found out about this when I saw Such Gold last night, that really sucks.

they played in my city like 2 nights ago. this sucks

m/

Seriously, what the fuck is up with musicians' vans?

looks like these guys will go to any length to raise money

'my van crashed can i have some money please because i play in a band' - more pathetic than funny i spose

thousands of poor people in road accidents every day don't ask for handouts

their choice anyway to play music that doesn't make them much money instead of getting a job where they can earn enough to get health insurance

yeah this is sad

"their choice anyway to play music that doesn't make them much money instead of getting a job where they can earn enough to get health insurance"

yeah it's their choice but countless like-minded people respect that choice and therefore have no problem donating

well no doubt they'll get a new guitar or something out of it

damn u are easy to wind up

good band

hopefully they're well

mena, this sort of thing happens rather very often (the asking for money bit)

cry me a fucking river, ill keep my sympathy for the thousands that die every day from starvation instead of some people who can't drive a van

considering I have friends who know these dudes and
how great of people they are yes it pisses me off your
making jokes about every one of them almost dying.

they are from a land of opportunity, they had a choice, they chose to make music that not enough people like for them to take out health insurance

yo menawati you are looking like a dick no offense intended but totally intended

fine by me i just fail to see the importance, lots of more worthwhile causes to donate money too

andcas, he's just trolling hard, stop feeding the troll

you should be happy the thread keeps getting bumped and is more visible to the people who want to donate

menawati logic: Let's all just stop making the music we love and either get a full time job or make shitty pop music so we can pay our bills

That makes sense

why do you assume that i care about this band getting donations?

i was talking to andcas, he cares a lot and has undoubtedly donated large sums by now and i'd guess would be happy to see this thread up in the discussions all the time

andcas without a doubt people on this site can be stupid but damn you love instigating

Putting the provocative stuff aside for the moment :-

These guys were born in a country where they have lots of choices, they made their choices. They want to earn a living from making music and accepted the risk that they can't make enough money for things like health insurance at least for some while (or maybe they could afford it but didnt bother, who knows). They've had some bad luck and in the detached humanitarian way that I feel for anyone in trouble I hope things work out. But to some extent their current situation is of their own making due to the choices they made.

Now they are asking people to donate money. Let's imagine I had 50 dollars and wanted to donate to a good cause. Even if I was a huge fan of the band I would not give it to them I would donate to a charity for disadvantaged people who never had the chance to make the choices they did. It would be a worthier cause in my estimation.

please explain the flaws you see in my stance ?

Menawati sounds like an angst-ridden teen who didn't get an allowance for mowing the lawn.

nah im just in a winding up mood spoiling for a debate

Sure.....

IF BAND IS GOOD THEN THAT SUCKS IF BAND IS BAD THEN THEY DESERVE IT

i would feel better donating to the band than a charity, it's not like everyone not in a band isn't poor. they got fucked over and are worthy of sympathy if it can be spared just like the dummies that mooch off of charities.

whoa triple negative there weak minds don't read that last comment

i respect your viewpoint bungy it's just for me my money would feel better used if it was helping to build a well or aqueduct or something to save multiple lives in a place where people are born into poverty and routinely die from stuff like typhoid

"i respect your viewpoint bungy it's just for me my money would feel better used if it was helping to build a well or aqueduct or something to save multiple lives in a place where people are born into poverty and routinely die from stuff like typhoid"

Who says the $ you're donating is going to that anyway?

I mean, you're logic is flawed, anyway. You could say that the people you're helping out when you donate to charity could just make better decisions with their lives.

you're obviously right morally/ethically there. If I knew for a fact that my money would go directly to a cause like that it would be a no-brainer.

"I mean, you're logic is flawed, anyway. You could say that the people you're helping out when you donate to charity could just make better decisions with their lives."

Not if you pick the right charity that helps people who cannot get out of the poverty they are born into. I don't think it's a bad thing to choose the charities you support carefully.

Who says people can't get out of poverty?

yeah research that shit. helping bands is important though


http://themenzingers.tumblr.com/post/22394317947/situation-update-thank-you-all-so-much

are you serious ?
you really think some poor sod born into some of the worst parts of Africa or SE Asia has a way out ?

"are you serious ?
you really think some poor sod born into some of the worst parts of Africa or SE Asia has a way out ?"

Do you know enough about the members of this band to assume that they're using this as a ruse to get extra cash?

Do you know enough about the members of this band to make a claim that they have no other way out of where they live?

Now, I'm not saying that any members of this band have it as bad as a starving child in Africa nor Asia, but I'm just posing these questions to make you see how dumb your stance is.

I mean, every band struggles at some point, and some bands struggle their whole existence(that's why most end up splitting up after a year or two).

These guys had something unfortunate happen to them, WHICH WASN'T THEIR CHOICE. I know plenty of people who have had horrible things happen to them that weren't their choice who need help.

"Do you know enough about the members of this band to assume that they're using this as a ruse to get extra cash?"
No, that was obviously a joke to wind up andcas. It's probably genuine.

"Do you know enough about the members of this band to make a claim that they have no other way out of where they live?"
Well they can afford to buy musical equipment and go on the road so I am assuming they arent dieing from malnutrition.

"Well they can afford to buy musical equipment and go on the road so I am assuming they arent dieing from malnutrition"

Yeah, because instruments and sound equipment cost as much as health insurance.

Hey guys! Since these guys could afford a cheap guitar and an amp, let's just let them die.

so they made a choice then

"so they made a choice then"

Health insurance cost a lot more than a guitar and an amp. Not the sharpest tool in the shed, are ya?

i never said let them die i am merely stating that i believe there are much worthier causes which i would donate to even if i was a fan

Also, let's go back to this:

If we really want to get down to it, these people in these poverty-stricken areas can make a choice and walk out of their respective areas and get a better job. Or better yet, get an education!

Oh well, you are now descending into personal insult.
Game, set and match.
bye.

"Oh well, you are now descending into personal insult.
Game, set and match.
bye."

Wasn't an insult at all. I think you might need to look up that definition.

I also think you don't have anything other to say because you ran out of ideas.

Stumped?

lol since when has it become so easy to troll sputnik?

Isn't this like the 3rd van crash this week? I know this and Acacia and someone else.

That sux

who's the douchebag ridiculing career paths in music on a music review site?

For fuck's sake this dude is a troll, quit responding to his comment he's just making asinine comments to rile people up and get a laugh out of it. (Could also be a she, don't want to be sexist here.)