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Hello to all:

Depending on where you are in the world, Happy Mar10 Day (woohoo!) or Happy 311 Day.

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Thanks very much to those participating in the 2022 application cycle, submitting new genre tag proposals, and providing feedback on site changes you’d like to see implemented.

Some of your proposals (e.g., “what if we had a nice shiny fire engine”) are unfortunately not in the budget (and this will come to bite us when the servers finally go out in a blaze of glory), but others were well-received when passed along to the one person who can make magic happen.

This entry will start with 2022 promotions, followed by a discussion of the community’s submissions for proposed genre tags (along with confirming that new genres will be added at a date TBD; current projections are late Q2), and then concluding with reviewing some of the consistent themes in your feature proposals.

My sincere thanks once more to all users for their participation in the community survey.

Part I: New Hires

First: congrats are in order to dmathias52, JesperL, Kompys2000, and Sunnyvale as the newest staff contingent, and a welcome to fogza and normaloctagon as new contributors, along with a “Welcome back!” to anat as well as ian b, who exercised their right to a grace application. Any former writer who stepped away because work/school/IRL responsibilities took precedence but would like to return can, provided that they don’t make unhinged threats about one’s spouse, children, and so forth. It’s like insulting Chef Gnocchi before he makes your meal. Why do that?

A common question is if promotions happen throughout Q1 and into Q2. The answer to this is that it depends, as some of the applications received were a bit peculiar (like skipping 3 of the 4 questions entirely — was this intentional?), while others are working on finding their groove and voice. I respect the sentiment shared regarding the murky ambiguity of supplemental hires (“ghost promotions”). We’ve had contributors get hired and then proceed to not do anything and find that amusing, and we’ve had staffers retire because, instead of getting paid by ~~exposure~~, they’re getting paid with real money. Either way, in the words of one application: “sputnik is the cockroach that mills around unbothered by nuclear devastation,” so if it means we can delay radioactive fallout with supplemental hires, we’re happy to do that. The best part about not having a vote is that I get to hit the shiny buttons. Hooray! Whether you applied this round or are thinking of applying, please feel free to contact any staffer you like or trust for guidance. It’s always my hope that the blog gets used creatively by staff and contributors, and 2022 has been promising so far.

Part II: Genre Tag Proposals

Next, we received triple-digit submissions for genre tags. Thank you for this!

In no particular order, some comments from users:

  • An appreciable demand for Noise to be distinct from Noise Rock (“as opposed to having to tag every power electronic act as Noise Rock”);
  • A similar request that Garage Rock and Garage be clarified (“Garage Rock is massively needed so people stop confusing it with the current garage tag which is for the electronic genre”), although it’s unclear if Garage in its current state will be renamed to ‘Garage (UK)’ or left as-is;
  • Djent should be added “to separate boomer prog metal with scene kid prog metal”;
  • We received 151 subgenres that had at most 3 votes (one of these was Sowingcore, with a total of one vote, confirmed to be “Not from Sowing”).

Unfortunately, the owner’s preference is to not be overly-encyclopedic because there are better sites for this kind of cataloging, but it’s been pledged to add at least 10-13 new genres at some point this year.

Without further ado, the pending additions are:

  • Disco
  • New Wave
  • Screamo
  • Noise
  • Djent
  • Trap
  • Slowcore
  • Synthpop
  • Garage Rock
  • Deathcore
  • Dungeon Synth
  • Vaporwave
  • Krautrock

When will these be added? The current projection is Q2.

Apologies to those who were hoping for Folk Metal — you will continue to be stuck with dual-tagging Folk + Metal.

A common request/question was if we “can reset all the genre tags and start over”. Unfortunately not, as the infrastructure might self-destruct (and no fire trucks are in sight), but we can handle this on a case-by-case basis. ABBA and Boney M. fans rejoice!

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In case you’re wondering about some of the one-off Rock votes:

  • Butt Rock
  • Cock Rock
  • Clam Jam Rock
  • Glam Rock
  • Yacht Rock

Bizarrely, Noise Rock was submitted, but this is already an established genre.

Part III: Proposals for Site Improvements

Lastly, we received several ideas for site improvements. A lot of these fall outside of our control on a day-to-day basis, but in the spirit of transparency reporting, here’s a sample of submissions:

  • How about user bios, so people can stop using their favorite bands sections for it?
  • Maybe a fun addition would be a shoutbox-style comment section under an artist’s page;
  • Allow reactions to comments, responses to comments and filtering to top comments and such. As much as I love the old forum feel, I think this would be the bare minimum to increase interaction on the site;
  • “Add Dark Mode” and “AdD dArK mOdE”;
  • Give us the “More” button in lists. Nobody can view threads from people with over 54 lists unless they use some stupid coding trick (“Would be fucking tite to be able to scroll back through a user’s lists more than three pages”);
  • I would like to see longer lists for the historical genre charts. Possibly the option to give more than 200 results;
  • Cross-genre searching in Charts, so if you wanted to search for the highest-rated Deathcore albums, you could input Death Metal + Metalcore + Hardcore, for instance;

Then there were some themes, including:

  • Tagging albums in addition to artists (“Vote genre tags for specific albums”; “Individual genres for albums would be dope tbh”; “Albums being tagged rather than [or in addition to] artists”);
  • Improved search (multiple requests for ‘Find an Album’) instead of just ‘Find a Band’ (additions: changing ‘Find a Band’ to ‘Find an Artist’ and having this text disappear when clicked/tapped);
  • Consistent display of release dates (“this hasn’t been updated since 2013 lol”);
  • Bring back last.fm integration!
  • Bring back Musical Neighbours!

These requests were all deemed to be good ideas, but cannot be implemented as quickly given his time constraints.

There were also some requests/complaints about tracklists being ‘hidden’ by a pop-up window. This is a band-aid to help curb some of the redirects that we’ve been plagued with the past few years. It’s one of those “intentional but not by choice” deals.

Also: how many times do I have to tell you that editing sound-offs on mobile and getting a bunch of rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrs is the latest “It’s not a bug, it’s a feature” around here? If that gets fixed, then we lose all sense of pride and accomplishment!

However, the “most feasible in the short term” addition that will be installed at a time TBD this year stems from requests like these:

  • Add a “To Listen” feature like on IMDb without having to use Lists;
  • Some kind of “Wishlist” feature where you can essentially bookmark albums you want to listen to later. Right now, I have to screenshot them all — but obviously super inefficient! Would love to have my own Sputnik to-do list (public or private) that could be sorted by genre, release date, etc.
  • The ability to ‘bookmark’ releases without rating them, as a log of sorts, without having to use the Lists for this;
  • Make lists not delete themselves while you’re making them or stop timing me out;
  • Hell yeah I love hitting [Add Another Item] 95 times when trying to make a 100-item list on mobile;
  • I’ve gotten a few crashes after submitting a list, even if I try to go back to the submission page, all entries past 5 are deleted;

So: at a time TBD, in addition to the above-named new genre tags, Listening Logs/Wishlist/To Listen (or whatever the name turns out to be), separate from the List feature, will be implemented and the List feature will be analyzed for improvements!

While we’re at the mercy of owner availability, we know that these changes are on the horizon.

Thanks for your attention, congrats to the new hires, and thank you to all who participated in the community survey. All the best!





tyman128
03.11.22
congrats to all you new hires!!

SteakByrnes
03.11.22
Huge congrats to the promos, and it's very promising that we may actually get these site changes soon lol that's hype

Gnocchi
03.11.22
Oh lots of congratulations, also some yays! for the site moving forwards in features.

Ryus
03.11.22
congrats lads

and we gettin a trap tag lets gooo

Storm In A Teacup
03.11.22
Very entertaining write up in addition to being an important update that has shockingly revealed folk metal doesn’t have enough support on Sputnik, definitely unexpected.

MiloRuggles
03.11.22
yoyoyo big congrats to all promoted!! very well-earned by each of yas
shouts out to the support crew for the hard yards

YoYoMancuso
03.11.22
congrats everyone!

Purpl3Spartan
03.11.22
Hype for the changes. Congrats guys!

brainmelter
03.11.22
congrats for the promotions!
and yay for new genres

Dewinged
03.11.22
Congrats to the new staffers and contribs, all well deserved!

And private lists yay!

Kompys2000
03.11.22
we're boldly bringing this site into the year 2009 everybody lfg

Big congrats to our newest contribabes, and I'm hella honored to be joining staff alongside some very talented and kind folks 🤩

Gnocchi
03.11.22
Thought Jom went and changed my username there for a second.

FR33L0RD
03.11.22
Congrats all!

Zakusz
03.11.22
I would like to be a contributor / staff at some point, what is the process? Thanks!

Teal
03.11.22
Congratulations!

Dylan620
03.11.22
victory for slowcore!!!!! and congrats to new promotes!!!!

Gnocchi
03.11.22
@Zakusz, there’s a yearly post in the news thread usually around February and March announcing the applications and process. Ghost promotions are unscripted - you can either wait until next year, building a great representation and portfolio or maybe message a mod for an emailed application (I don’t know if this is a thing). Best of luck either way.

Get Low
03.11.22
as soon as the deathcore tag gets added I'm going to have a field day on this site

fogza
03.11.22
This is truly remarkable after probably the worst application in sput history. Kinda finally made it!

Gnocchi
03.11.22
Get Low, you’re not already?

evilford
03.11.22
Grats everyone!

Also congrats to chef gnocchi for being chef gnocchi

Get Low
03.11.22
"Get Low, you’re not already?"

nope :(

Gnocchi
03.11.22
Ironically I have just to a menu where there is in fact no gnocchi

deathschool
03.11.22
Can't wait to get banned for tagging everything as djent.

JohnnyoftheWell
03.11.22
this is awesome new people are awesome new tags are 75% awesome and 25% awesomely convenient ways for people to make their pie charts even more embarrassing the site is saved!!! party on!

Gnocchi
03.11.22
I forgot about the pie charts!! Excellent. How many slices are acceptable again?

Kompys2000
03.11.22
Gonna launch a campaign to tag DJ Shadow as vaporwave and get harassed off the site within 36 hours

Trifolium
03.11.22
Congratulations everyone love you!!!!

And I'm very happy that we won't have a "Allow reactions to comments, responses to comments and filtering to top comments and such.", it would destroy Sput's lovely cosy feel.

Also RIP Latin genre tag...

Storm In A Teacup
03.11.22
The site is saved only for like 3 months until biggles returns after deciding Sputnik must be saved by her.

Kompys2000
03.11.22
If biggle comes back for real I will shoutbox him about doing a tell-all for the staff blog

anat
03.11.22
I’ll believe the list crash fix when I see it
but thanks for letting me dust off my “team leader” name badge!!

Pheromone
03.11.22
> we're boldly bringing this site into the year 2009 everybody lfg

lmao

congrats all woo party woo!!!!

Pheromone
03.11.22
this is high key the most exciting announcement altogether we've had since i can remember go jom

anat
03.11.22
can’t believe I raised the †glitch like some kind of fool

garas
03.11.22
I can't believe it... dungeon synth will be added to the database?!
I think my job here is done, maybe I will enter to an endless hibernation from now on.

Pheromone
03.11.22
i am going to tag every grimes album as dungeon synth and there's nothing u can do to stop me

Gnocchi
03.11.22
Woah anat how did your refreshed contrib status break that comment

anat
03.11.22
I#|>ve reached a higher plane

JesperL
03.11.22
woah this is all v cool, congrats to everyone!! that music wishlist feature sounds v v sweet as well

Bedex
03.11.22
this is infinitely more news than I ever expected to read on this website what a joyous surprsise WOW

Also congrats to all new staff and new/returning contribs!

Pangea
03.11.22
congrats to all promotions, all very well deserved!

Sinternet
03.11.22
congrats new staff et al

finally got screamo and trap lets go boysss

although i would still like to see a response about split albums + collaborations being a mess in the db at some point

Trifolium
03.11.22
"although i would still like to see a response about split albums + collaborations being a mess in the db at some point"

Oh yes good one. That would be perfect!

parksungjoon
03.11.22
it would also prob require a serious overhaul of the whole thing so not likely

hangth3dj
03.11.22
Who is this mysterious owner/overlord and why do they love their website to be a relic from 2006?

(this isn't a complaint btw, it makes me feel comfortable as nothing's changed since I last posted in an internet community)

Sinternet
03.11.22
possibly? i'm not super knowledgeable about web design

could you not create an alias on each artists page that would link to the release page maybe?

parksungjoon
03.11.22
you mean so that a collab album shows up on the artist pages of the "individual" artists who collab'd?

TheNotrap
03.11.22
Congrats to the lads & sexy, hot genre that got the top spot.

Sinternet
03.11.22
yeah exactly park

so for a split release with artist a/artist b, it would still be added under a new artist page, but both artist a and artist b's individual pages would have the release show up on their pages too, which when clicked on would go to that release page

Trifolium
03.11.22
Sounds super sexy, hope it happens one day.

anat
03.11.22
sput is inherently against collabs which is why ampersands are the forbidden symbol when creating an artist profile

Trifolium
03.11.22
That is a very valid point anat. Perhaps if Sput sees more ampersands it will get used to them. A sort of training. We should use them more often. &! &! &!!!

parksungjoon
03.11.22
that shouldnt be too hard but with the way things are set up now it would have to be done manually (as in, someone would have to create dummy pages manually and link them manually) and theres no way theyd trust anyone who isnt a mod with the site's spaghetti

the reason rym works the way that it does is because they decoupled album from "parent artist" , so in other words instead of assuming 1-1 ownership between album and artist they store it in a way that an album can have multiple "parent" artists basically, or in the case of classical compositions it allows separation of composer and performer(s)

parksungjoon
03.11.22
>which is why ampersands are the forbidden symbol when creating an artist profile

unfortunately text sanitising on input forms is just annoying painstaking work

the site also has a problem with the word UNION in artist names


anat
03.11.22
"the site also has a problem with the word UNION in artist names"

oh for real? i haven't encountered, what happens?

parksungjoon
03.11.22
i think it just strips the word

i only remember it because of this

https://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands/The-Of-A-Man-And-A-Woman/123263/

but im pretty sure we tested it somewhere else too. it also strips DELETE from shoutbox comments in some cases

Trifolium
03.11.22
That is super crazy hahahahah!

DoofDoof
03.11.22
want to go genre tagging like crazy

just devastated sophisti pop didn't make it

theBoneyKing
03.11.22
We did it slowcore gang!!!

Also, a deep and genuine thanks to Jom for overseeing this and mx for making it happen! Any improvement to this site is appreciated.

Demon of the Fall
03.11.22
Congrats to everyone who got promoted!

I am overwhelmed by the number of updates the site is getting, genuinely did not expect there to be this many. Exciting times for Sput! Guess we will have to patient, but it's nice to know they are on the horizon.

Voivod
03.11.22
Great post.

About editing lists on mobile, once the edit is done, existing entries are cleaved for some reason, i.e. bug.

Slex
03.11.22
Congrats to all but wanna shoutout Dmathias who has been writing staff quality stuff from the jump, was only a matter of time

GhandhiLion
03.11.22
Can I downvote genres now

Sunnyvale
03.11.22
Exciting news! Congrats to all as well!

Sowing
03.11.22
This was a very enjoyable post. How did I not know that Mar10 is Mario Day, or that it's even a thing? I don't deserve my avatar...

Congrats again to all of the new hires, and to those who didn't make it this time, don't be discouraged. Good things come to those who wait!

dedex
03.11.22
Grats to all the promoted babes! I'll try again next year lel

Also super dope to see this many updates!

Demon of the Fall
03.11.22
one of the quotes in the article includes the word 'dope'...

I wonder who this could possibly be

TheSpirit
03.11.22
congrats to everyone who was promoted!

z00sh
03.11.22
Really looking forward to these new updates. Congratulations you guys!



DungeonBoy
03.11.22
lol at the idea of this site being updated, but if it actually happens I'll be impressed

normaloctagon
03.11.22
Thanks for all the congrats and good vibes everyone, stoked n honored to be contrib, and high fives to all the other promotes as well. Updates sound v cool how exciting

Snake.
03.11.22
SLOWCORE TAG LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

AlexKzillion
03.11.22
djent bois have been acknowledged

someone
03.11.22
it's official: djent is a thing
sputnik has approved, so the world can now too

GhandhiLion
03.11.22
Two genres that can be easily substituted by genres already on this website. Nice.

bgillesp
03.11.22
Big news! Happy/congrats for all the new promotions and upcoming changes

DungeonBoy
03.11.22
djent is djent at this point. you hear it, you know it, you love to hate it

MercySeat
03.11.22
Congrats to everyone! And thanks to the staff and crew for continuing to make this site as amazing as it is! Your work is truly appreciated by us all!

MercySeat
03.11.22
Congrats to everyone! And thanks to the staff and crew for continuing to make this site as amazing as it is! Your work is truly appreciated by us all!

neekafat
03.11.22
woah huge congrats everyone!

dmathias52
03.11.22
Very honored to be joining the ranks! And ready to take some heat when I mess up all of the metal rankings in the end of year list

Gnocchi
03.11.22
Sowing will pick up for the slackers dont worry.

nightbringer
03.11.22
The wishlist feature is so needed, stoked to get it

jmh886
03.12.22
just happy this site still exists. i'd be depressed if it ceased.

ArsMoriendi
03.12.22
Congrats to all he new contribs and Staff

And YAY synthpop, disco, and new wave all made it. Baroque pop sadly didn't, but it's okay

Purpl3Spartan
03.12.22
dJeNt iS nOt A gEnRe

GhandhiLion
03.12.22
I wish

Dedes
03.12.22
Good luck new contribs and staffers, glad we finally got some revamps to this clunky lovable ole site

Gnocchi
03.12.22
wRiTinG liKe THis Is noT trENDy

Dedes
03.12.22
Get swag old man

Gnocchi
03.12.22
respek your elders

deathofasalesman
03.12.22
very cool update, can't wait to see how some of these get implemented

GreyShadow
03.12.22
the additions sound really cool.

Who primarily works on the site/are you ever looking for more people with dev backgrounds (and whatnot) to help out??

DrGonzo1937
03.12.22
Congrats to all promoted, every one of you was deserved.

A special thank you to the Mods and Gods who are implementing these great ideas and features to the site. I speak for myself here, but your tireless endeavours are immensely appreciated -- and I'd like to hope everyone who comes on here regularly feels the same way.



ArsMoriendi
03.12.22
I wonder if all of the synthwave and chillwave artists will end up with vaporwave tags

GhandhiLion
03.30.22
fuck I should have asked for a 0.5 rating

Get Low
03.31.22
I should have asked for the ability to 1.0 OK Computer

Get Low
09.11.22
"When will these be added? The current projection is Q2."

theBoneyKing
09.11.22
Well, they didnt technically say Q2 this year.

Mongi123
09.11.22
Yeah so about those genre tags. Slowcore, Djent and Screamo would be good editions.

ArsMoriendi
09.11.22
I hope soon

sonictheplumber
09.11.22
sup

Mort.
09.11.22
mx probably just forgot the site exists again. he will remember in a year or two, im sure

sixdegrees
09.11.22
soon

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