Poland? That country is even more Catholic that the Vatican itself. It kinda makes sense that he triggered them so badly.

Preach, Nergal

Not a fan of Nergal but it is absolutely fucking ridiculous over there.

It's wild that Batushka had to cancel their shows on account of the religious zealots over there. Hope they're able to get something done.

#NergalForever

Nergal's said some dumb shit but yea fuck blasphemy laws and anyone who supports them

even his former girlfriend, a famous pop singer in poland got hit with a blasphemy offence in the past lol

Fighting the good fight

Bóg nie żyje

no gods, no masters.

oh nice. Poland sounds cool. Nothing like crazy Catholic girls
Just leave Poland though... they're not going to change any time soon

Cant disagree with him of course he what sane mind could?


Would still LOVE to headbutt him tho ngl

Just drink your Tyskie, do a grand job of me bathroom for a cheap price and button it pal alright.

Not a fan of Nergal but it is absolutely fucking ridiculous over there. (2)

Agreed and the goverment makes it even worse. Fight the good fight gentleman.

I hate Nergal, and I hate this ridicoulious case too. I wish they shall end this soon.

I'm familiar with Behemoth but not Nergal. What exactly did he do to deserve this hate?

played around with satanic themes

No I mean the hate from Sput.

dont know anything other than his name sounds like a pokemon, like most bm frontment tbf

https://www.loudersound.com/news/behemoths-nergal-sparks-controversy-with-black-metal-against-antifa-t-shirt

prob this

Wish the best for this dude, completely. Government and religion should be completely separate.

Jesus christ, Louder Sound is Metalsucks tier trash website. Not only that, they also block you if you're using an adblocker.

>Not only that, they also block you if you're using an adblocker.

didnt have that problem when i grabbed that

yea eastern europe is pretty bad in general tbh

it's what jesus would have wanted

Have any of you slags actually been to Poland? It’s quality, amazing people, lovely place.

lol

would be better if satan ruled it tho

Well the subject is religious zealotry and blasphemy laws which I hope we can agree suck, right Zak?

remember when nergal ripped up a bible? his finest moment.

Of course jac my man I’m just waving the flag for Poland. It’s a good country.

its one thing to be a tourist its another to live there

of course theyd treat brits nicely for a few days, you prob spend more money there on ur vacation than we earn in a month

zak likes Poles as long as they stay their asses in Poland

i dont get these black metal guys who whine and complain that theyre persecuted, they provoke and then bitch when they get a backlash. black metal was supposed to be about provoking backlash right? so why bitch when you get what you asked for? if they dont like it maybe they can make some other type of music which does not get such attention

religious zealotry and blasphemy laws which I hope we can agree suck [2]

Yes, black metal has always been about getting prosecuted by the state.

Eons: So do you not agree with the idea that artists should be able to create freely? Idk the fact that religious institutions are so weak and fearful that they have to make blasphemy laws in the 21st century is laughable to me.

creating provocative art =/= asking to be persecuted under the law you twat

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"zak likes Poles as long as they stay their asses in Poland"

Bruh, I totally read that as "zak likes Poles as long they're up his ass."

a big part of metal in religiously militant and oppressive countries is to be a tool for rebellion and empowerment to begin with. you think metal bands in places like fucking Iran are doing it just to be edgy and provoke imprisonment?

ffs.

"Bruh, I totally read that as "zak likes Poles as long they're up his ass.""

lmao, it's ok zak nothing wrong with that

have you seen eons before? i doubt theres much thinking involved

can't tell any of the four letter 'E' word users apart

"Jesus christ, Louder Sound is Metalsucks tier trash website. Not only that, they also block you if you're using an adblocker."

It still boggles the mind that people actually gravitated towards a site called "MetalSucks" for Metal news and opinions.

One look at some of their reviews and you can tell these guys are just grifters who don't care for the genre at all.

Get'm Nergi

Poland is fucked

being anti-blasphemy laws is the one consistently good angle Nergal's supported.

Damn, that eons post was pretty fuckin braindead.

One for the ages

hey guys i thought the goal of black metal was for them to be legally brutalized by antiquated laws

"Bruh, I totally read that as "zak likes Poles as long they're up his ass."

well if he does, I'm guessing he didn't disclose that when he went to Poland

So, he wants to fight one religion in the name of satan - basicaly another religion. Concept of a devil comes from religious beliefs. He's no different. Clown. Showman.

hope u stretched before that big ass reach

galaxy brain moment

thread is blasphemy

Religious feelings? lol wtf is that come on

its religious feelings ??

oh sweet, thanks for the info!

no problem

"So, he wants to fight one religion in the name of satan - basicaly another religion. Concept of a devil comes from religious beliefs. He's no different."

This person is very dumb.

"So, he wants to fight one religion in the name of satan - basicaly another religion. Concept of a devil comes from religious beliefs. He's no different. Clown. Showman."

isn't nergal the one who is penalized here? what should he do then? leave country? suck it up and happily pay for believing in something that the catholic church condemns? this is ridiculous

Fuck him and fuck Polish religious laws

Nergal has been in this position before many times, he knows what would happen to him, and when it happens, he complains about it and how its unfair or whatever. Me liking or not liking the blasphemy laws has nothing to do with it, the point I was making was Black Metal from the start was always subversive. So he is being subversive, that's good since he's in the black metal genre. But I don't buy his whole ''fighting for freedom'' stuff. He wants the freedom to act like a child basically and do edgy shit like step on pictures of Virgin Mary or whatever. But he doesn't have any freedom like this in Poland. I don't think it's worth fighting for such stupid shit.

There's something childish about him stepping on the photo then posting it online to be edgy. He knew this would happen. I wouldn't be surprised if all this attention he wanted to get, was to hype up something he's selling.

>But he doesn't have any freedom like this in Poland. I don't think it's worth fighting for such stupid shit.

how do you think this freedom is to be gained? or do you think it should not be gained, that its just a natural law or something?

It's a much more subtle and sustainable way to challenge the churches than burning them imo. It doesn't seem like he's complaining so much as taking up arms in a legal conflict against religious zealotry. Maybe trying to sway public opinion against it so that it's not in place. It's not like the Christian imagery actually means anything. Doesn't seem quite like the aimless provocateuring you want it to be.

> Maybe trying to sway public opinion against it so that it's not in place. It's not like the Christian imagery actually means anything. Doesn't seem quite like the aimless provocateuring you want it to be.

yes lol

he shouldn't fight to express himself if he does it in a way that I don't like

Im not sure, but i feel like i remember eons having a lot of dumb takes, is that right? Is this par for the course for him?

Lol what a fucking diva. Whining little bitch.

No surprise that maco is taking the submissive to authority cucked position, he is a right winger after all.

And of course you'll take sides with the whining attention whore craving for relevance.

Blasphemy laws are pretty lame, yeah.

>the whining attention whore craving for relevance

projecting much?

Hopefully he can whine about it through instagram stories and tik toks. I bet that will make the polish government abolish the law.

you should try learning to read some time

you'll find he's been taken to court for it, not just talking online

What's worse is that gofundme campaign ugh. What a disgrace and there are idiots putting money into that.

Nergal is in his right to push back against this. It's not copacetic with Western ideals to have religion actively suppress the populace.

Calling someone a right winger as an insult is pretty inane. The commonly held right wing position is minimal government control/intervention. Left wing is associated with tighter government control/regulations.

"Hopefully he can whine about it through instagram stories and tik toks. I bet that will make the polish government abolish the law."

Translation: dont even bother trying to change it. Theres that submissive conservative logic again.

"Hopefully he can whine about it through instagram stories and tik toks. I bet that will make the polish government abolish the law."

Doing this will increase awareness and support. Doing this will make it more likely for a formidable movement to coalesce. So your criticism is asinine

"Calling someone a right winger as an insult is pretty inane."

Not really, its pretty embarrassing.

Nergal is a satanist. Tearing up a bible and stepping on the virgin mary is him expressing his religious beliefs. As silly as his religious beliefs are, he should be allowed to express them just as much as any catholic. The catholic church has some pretty backwards views that shouldnt be allowed anywhere near a government. Poland is not a catholic theocracy. Their constitution gives them the right to religious freedom.

Doing this will increase awareness and support. Doing this will make it more likely for a formidable movement to coalesce. So your criticism is asinine

All the times I've seen people doing that it failed. Creating awareness doesn't mean solving the problem.

Besides I'm sure the government has bigger priorities, there's still a pandemic, not to mention there are LGBTQ campaigns that have way more awareness and support than what the diva is trying to pull.

Calling someone a right winger as an insult is pretty inane.

He can call me whatever he wants, if that means I'm not like him then it's a compliment.

"All the times I've seen people doing that it failed. Creating awareness doesn't mean solving the problem."

Maco is so fucking dumb lmao.

And you're a tool lol

how can anyone talk about inanity while arguing on sputnik

maco can you stop being an attention whore

Thats it everybody, no more activism. Every time maco has seen it, it doesnt work! Also, it doesnt even solve the problem! We can all go home.

"Besides I'm sure the government has bigger priorities, there's still a pandemic, not to mention there are LGBTQ campaigns that have way more awareness and support than what the diva is trying to pull."
So all political issues have to be on hold until the pandemic and gay rights are solved?

the idea of thinking about more than one thing at a time, caring about more than one thing at a time, doing more than one thing at a time... seems far beyond maco's capabilities to be fair

"So, he wants to fight one religion in the name of satan - basicaly another religion. Concept of a devil comes from religious beliefs. He's no different. Clown. Showman."

a hot take, but make it centrist

"Poland is not a catholic theocracy."

Well, maybe not officially, but close enough in every day life.

"Nergal has been in this position before many times, he knows what would happen to him, and when it happens, he complains about it and how its unfair or whatever."

Lets see if you still want to die on this dumbfuck hill when we apply it to people like Rosa Parks you stupid asshat

Given how much his attention whore wants us to know he loves nsbm, I would guess the answer is yes lol

LOL

"Nergal has been in this position before many times, he knows what would happen to him, and when it happens, he complains about it and how its unfair or whatever"

Aren't you the guy that bitched to no end over Varg's YT channel getting terminated?

Shocker

The commonly held right wing position is minimal government control/intervention. Left wing is associated with tighter government control/regulations.

based and america-pilled reductive propaganda right there love to see it

Leftism isn't about government control as much as it is about holding our institutions to certain better standards, and the government has the most means to do that for the time being. Or at least that's the idea, I'm not saying it can never be perverted. I think things like a more universal living wage and universal healthcare and universal education aren't too much to expect. Good to expect, even. Like, if your government can't pull that off, what good is it really?

and those are more centristic ideas too. says a lot about how poor america's priorities are, if the crisis in Texas didn't tip you off already.

Best thing in this thread: Louder Sound and MetalSucks are fucking terrible websites! Glad to see others here agree on that as well!!

p.s. Louder Sound is utter trash so careful when you visit. They don't allow adblocks and won't let you visit unless you whitelist them. I took the time to see what their cookie policy is as well and it's ridiculous the kind of cookies they want you to agree to. So yeah I blocked them on my phone so i don't get their articles recommended. Just as a kind reminder

Not expressing my views on this. Just think freedom of speech and the right to criticise things we dont agree with should never be brought to court. Especially when the constitution of the country at hand guarantees that right to their citizens.

maybe yall using the wrong adblockers or something lmao

Tried with 3 different ones and same result. Also the only website that does that (similar to regular news outlets like nyt tny or the telegraph)

maybe theres some region-based component to it or something then idk

i had not even heard of that site before tbh

the thing is all you people who hate the laws believe in this guy and he isn't going to do shit about it, except cry on instagram for attention.

Okay

and here you are crying on sputnik about some guy 'crying on instagram' - we've reached loserception

I can believe in a living wage and also believe in keeping corporations and governments from policing our speach.

man I swear some of these dudes itt would be singing a different tune if Nergal was from Iran

well thats because iran is an evil islamic country full of backwards savages and poland is a Free™* Western™* Democratic™* Christian country which means that if you break the law it's your fault idiot just don't be a stupid criminal lol. If the laws weren't just then people would have changed them already because clearly it's just that easy and clearly no one in power would ever try to prevent that if it gave them more power...

(*only after they abolished communism tho)


i mean clearly

"Not expressing my views on this."

*Expresses views on this*

Huh

"the thing is all you people who hate the laws believe in this guy and he isn't going to do shit about it, except cry on instagram for attention."

"DONT TRY CHANGING THINGS REEEEE"

shaddap

I figure MetalSucks and Louder Sound being garbage sites would be an accepted majority opinion tbqh

why

Because I rarely ever hear anybody other than their dedicated viewer base speak positively about them. Like, not even indifferent, a lot of people (me included) think they are utter garbage and should be burned in a fire.

none of what you said means anything

did they do something or

Never heard of Louder Sound, but idk why Metalsucks gets shat on, i guess i havent read enough of their stuff. I know a lot of metalheads whine because theyre perceived as too SJW or something.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/37tv5a/whats_the_deal_with_metalsucksnet/

Fucking plagiarists and shitty reviews of Metal albums.

https://www.thecirclepit.com/2015/06/metalsucks-is-wrong-modern-metal-is-awesome

Made a whole fucking article complaining about modern metal like a bunch of morons.

To sum it up a little better. MetalSucks likes to always shittalk the Metal fanbase and sit atop a hipster Ivory Tower like only their opinions on Metal are worthy. They write consistently judgy articles sniffing their own fart and smacktalking people who disagree with their garbage takes.

And then they try to hide behind their idiocy as "satire" when they seriously cannot hold their disdain for Metal in check. Their grifters who like to pose as Metal fans when they use every opportunity to shit on the genre at large.

so its a whole bunch of nonsense between people who cant handle differing opinions? cool

"They apparently have one author that's a redditor who browses r/metaljerk because back when we had a corpse paint contest, a picture of me with corpse paint showed up on there for a caption contest but they didn't provide a source."

"Edit: I forgot to mention that /u/manwithoutmodem is probably the metalsucks author that stole my picture. She never actually stated it but in the modmail every once in a while she mentions doing things with some of the authors. Still I can't be one hundred percent positive unless there's some better evidence or she comes out and states it."

Glad to know where you stand Park.

what

bizarre takes itt

MetalSucks steals pictures and uses others comments as filler for their articles because they can't write for shit. If you're a journalism site, that shit is just wrong.

listen im an old man and ive seen way too much petty drama in my life

basically your logic is that because someone may or may not have done something shady, as reported by a fucking redditor (very trustworthy btw), that means nothing any person on their staff ever writes or anyone they feature can ever be trusted. somehow

i'm pretty sure you're just butthurt they dont like the same things you do. thats fine, but dont try to spin it into more than it is.

im gonna continue to not read them, and i would advise you to get a brain transplant before you waste my time again



edit: not to mention the fact that the site i posted was not even metalsucks to begin with, i was interested why my source could be bad and you went off about some other possibly related possibly not site that someone else brought up

It's unreliable because their sources are the great minds over at r/metal /s

I mean their biggest problem isn't even their "sources" LS and particularly MS are objectively bad at reporting and have shitty borderline contemptuous writers, who gives a toss if the staff is a bunch of cringe idiots, their so-called journalism is shit, its really not that difficult.

it's amazing how lame this guy has become, especially after the Satanist.

"I mean their biggest problem isn't even their "sources" LS and particularly MS are objectively bad at reporting and have shitty borderline contemptuous writers, who gives a toss if the staff is a bunch of cringe idiots, their so-called journalism is shit, its really not that difficult."

[2]

metalsucks has been shown to be bad at journalism. just this week they were excited for a new song from the "true" Batushka but had to be reminded by everyone that the song was literally posted on the fake batushka's bandcamp. there are other instances i've seen lately of them not knowing basic things but they were so simple i don't even remember rn.