Not nearly as solid as Apologician.

I remember when this site hyped the shit out of these guys

QUIT ALREADY

I thought it toped anything off Deceiver.

hmm, not terrible but forgettable

this band is very much that: forgettable

Looks like lightning strikes twice. Good song.

fuck. this band would be so much better without their shitty clean singing choruses. seriously
though, the last two songs they released should not have been b-sides. they easily could have
replaced some of the weaker tracks on deceiver

"I remember when this site hyped the shit out of these guys"

those were dark times

Song is better than Apologician, but still not very good. This band is losing steam fast (for me). Let's hope they don't continue this route

his clean vocals are honestly so bad

meh meh MEH. God awful cleans.

Metalcore is dead.

I'll look later. These guys aren't that bad I'm surprised all the hate towards them. Actually never mind I'm really not.

Why did they get hyped? Everything has been bad that they released so why get your hopes up?!

Wtf is up with Tyler's vocals?!

Pretty much sucks

Like its been said... Cleans are bad.

Completely agree on them being forgettable. Remember when Deceiver first came out and the huge hype train that followed it lol? Now it has a measly low 3 rating because the album has no lasting appeal at all.

I liked these dudes for about 2 days then realized they were faggots

im diggin the beginning.

"I tried personally to push my screaming range to a more dynamic and diverse sound, and then tried to really focus on the character of my voice."

Empire showed some potential, then deciever destroyed that hope of potential

Agree. Empire was promising. Deceiver disappointed a little.

way better than apologician. good song.

I liked it. I think he should be careful with this "character" of his "voice" stuff, though.

Wow, the singer's sounding more husky that Deceiver. That can't be him doing the cleans either?

You guys are so passive agressive when it comes to opinions on metalcore bands. I like it.

This song is a really bad representation of the band. They have some really hard-hitting, technical tunes, much better than this. Listen to Apologician, the MUCH better song of the two recently released.

Song is decent, not like something we haven't heard before though.

Song is decent, not like something we haven't heard before though.

Love it.

Telle's screams sound flat. Beyond that, good song.

the second riff sounds like 2012's beginning/for today's devastator

Vocals were terrible.

The cleans sound lower in this song. I guess Telle finally realised he can't live up to his own range outside the studio. I don't mind the song, though. Empire is my favourite release