Bawwwww
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Jay-Z being a fag? Who'da thought?
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+10 douchebag points for jay-z
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Jay-Z's got 99 problems and a YouTube parody is one
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thread winner^
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Fuck with the Z and he'll diss you on his cd yo
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the number one reason why youtube sucks.
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Somewhere, Nas is looking for parodies of his own to shut down.
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Goldie Lookin' Chain are still together?
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Freedom of speech. Ever heard of it?
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Jay-Z has heard of freedom of speech but he has also heard of copyright infringement.
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The track was actually awesome
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If something is intended to be a parody, especially in the instance no money is being made off of it, there is no copyright infringement.
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A parody of a song is hardly copyright infringement. He's just being a little bitch. In this case, hundreds of people could shut down Saturday Night Live.
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A parody of a song is hardly copyright infringement. He's just being a little bitch. In this case, hundreds of people could shut down Saturday Night Live.
How do you know SNL doesn't get permission from the artists to spoof them?
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It isn't just artists. It's everything and everyone. SNL parodies everything from music to politicians to movies.
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You're on a roll, now aren't you, Thor?
never stopped being on a roll you just didn't notice apparently
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politicians can't copyright themselves
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It isn't just artists. It's everything and everyone. SNL parodies everything from music to politicians to movies.
Again, how do you know none of it has been cleared? Also, lyrics aside the music for this parody was the same as well. Without permission to sample, that's copyright infringement
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Sampling is directly using the art product (song), which is different. I know that the copyright laws do stop a lot of parodies. I just morally disagree with that. The purpose of a copyright is to keep someone else from taking credit for what you did, not to stop someone from making fun of you via using your own song just because you got butthurt.
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You heard that Star Wars parody of the same song? I think it's called Galactic Empire State of Mind. Way better.
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Sampling is directly using the art product (song), which is different. I know that the copyright laws do stop a lot of parodies. I just morally disagree with that. The purpose of a copyright is to keep someone else from taking credit for what you did, not to stop someone from making fun of you via using your own song just because you got butthurt.
No, its ripping off someone else's song to gain attention for yourself. Hova's reaction makes perfect sense
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Attention =/ money or credit for the song
I think if you state somewhere where you got the samples or original song, then it's legal to use.
It's all about who gets credit (and royalties).
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His reaction doesn't make perfect sense. He's just being a butt hurt little douche about it.
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one of the local radio shows here in cleveland made a "parma state of mind" video. hope that doesn't get taken down.
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Parody was pretty funny too.
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As long as credit is given to the original composer, why the fuck should you care? If anything, a parody would bring MORE people to your original song.
He's just being a butt hurt little douche about it. [2]
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"I'm pretty sure Jay-Z didn't try to sue every rapper that freestyled over "D.O.A." on their mixtape. Also, they aren't trying to sell it or anything, so how it's negatively affecting Hova is beyond me. He's just being a douchebag."
Shit I mean Lil Wayne uses Jay's beats all the time but you don't see him getting sued for it.
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it's just another case of copyright limiting the flow of ideas.
and that is all i got to say...about that
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Jay-Z has heard of freedom of speech but he has also heard of copyright infringement.
exactly
btw " seven songwriters who contributed to the track" so if one person wasn't cool with it, this was getting shut down regardless of what Jay-Z thought
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and meanwhile jay-z will go back to sampling other people's songs for his own productions.
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Attention =/ money or credit for the song
Who's disputing otherwise
His reaction doesn't make perfect sense. He's just being a butt hurt little douche about it.
When you write a song it becomes your property. Having that property stolen (sampling without approval) is theft. How is it not perfect sense?
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Now I'm wondering if the video said "originally by Jay-Z" or something of the sort. If it did, then there is no copyright infringement.
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Not the one I saw
and meanwhile jay-z will go back to sampling other people's songs for his own productions.
I don't hear anyone bringing up cases against him. Oh wait, maybe he asked first
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I doubt he actually felt "stolen" from. dude was probably just pissed somebody was making fun of his song.
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It wasn't making fun of his song
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If it didn't, then it's fine to take down. That doesn't make Jay-Z any less of a douche though. Credit should be given where it is due nonetheless.
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as much as it diverges from copyright laws, it's still my opinion that when one releases something into the public, people should be allowed to parody it, fuck it up, manipulate it to any extent. fuck, i mean imagine if girl talk were to pay every single copyright fee for every artist he sampled.
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and dev, i don't appreciate your sassy side
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Or DJ Shadow.. lol.
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I don't hear anyone bringing up cases against him. Oh wait, maybe he asked first
sampling=/=stealing if you clear the samples first
so yes Jay-Z will keep sampling other people's stuff
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all the people dj shadow sampled on endtroducing probably forgot they ever made music
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it's still my opinion that when one releases something into the public, people should be allowed to parody it, fuck it up, manipulate it to any extent
and it is my opinion that I should be allowed to rape any chick that I find mildly attractive, unfortunately actual LAWS carry more weight than my opinion
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way to complete leave out the part where I said "as much as it diverges from copyright laws". i'm allowed to disagree with a law.
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*completely
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way to complete leave out the part where I said "as much as it diverges from copyright laws"
but where's the fun in that Eno?
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elvis would've been fucked
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I'm pretty sure that rape harms the chick while someone parodying a song does not hurt the artist physically or financially. Again, people should be allowed to do whatever they wish as long as they give credit to the creator(s).
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It wasn't originally by Jay-Z - it contained an interpolations of a work originally by Jay-Z.
That's what I meant, just wasn't sure how to say it.
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people should be allowed to do whatever they wish as long as they give credit to the creator(s).
credit isn't enough for most people, they want money too
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and dev, i don't appreciate your sassy side
Sorry babe
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Doesn't Jay Z belong to some secret society that secretly controls the world and worships satan?
Because of the fact that he owns a huge label and is very involved with his major label, I would say yes.
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Is he still with Def Jam, or is it Rockafella?
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"He is the former CEO of Def Jam Recordings, one of the three founders of Roc-A-Fella Records, and the founder of Roc Nation" - Wikipedia
I'm pretty sure that he is VERY involved in all three.
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Wow, he really does have 99 problems.
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Wow, he really does have 99 problems.
but a bitch ain't one
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Mother fucker is banging Beyonce.
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So if a bitch ain't one, I am thinking 99 problems are equally divided among the three record labels. Thus, 33 problems each.
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I'm not finding any actual statements from Hova. It's the record company, guys.
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This is pretty stupid, parody was ace though.
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I actually went out of my way to point out that it's not the record company.
The comments say it needs to reiterated.
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Why am I the first person to mention that the actual song is called "EMPIRE State Of Mind", not "New York State Of Mind"
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Why don't they take away Weird Al Yankovic parody songs that makes fun of rap songs off of youtube while they are at it.
What Jay-Z did was really immature and needs to ignore parody songs, just like every other artist need to do.
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Cause Weird Al actually gets permission from the artist to do it, this has been brought up about 1000 times in the comments now (not specifically for weird al). I remember a while back there was some fuss cause weird al couldnt make an eminem parody due to em not giving him permission (or something like that)
Anyway, eternium makes the most sense t ome here. If they were gonna make money off of it then id agree theyd have to work out royalties with the company but if its just a free parody that gives credit where it is deserved then no harm no foul imo
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Ugg... this makes me sad because it was successful. That means artists will be a little more hesitant to produce parodies/satires or other commentary on art. This creeps a little further up on freedom of speech and gives the big corporations more confidence to attempt to shut down the indie guys who are just doing their thing.
This simply makes me hate Jay z further (I mean, could you be a bigger douchebag? I really don't think so).
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"seven songwriters"
what?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyoDUoH7BZc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx8CZyFM4b4
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Copyright infringement is all about ownership and dissemination.
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Weird Al only asks permission because he chooses to, out of respect.
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Parody is fair use under copyright Law, Jay-Z doesn't have to give them permission to use it, he's just being a bitch, probably worried it will get more popular than the actual song....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use
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I'm more concerned that it took SEVEN SONGWRITERS to write that song. Good god there is nothing complex about the song at all, not going to lie it's not a bad song it's catchy as hell, but 7 people? Wouldn't it be easier (and more cost efficient) to invest in people who can write their own songs.
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