Very meh

Err, I pretty much keep getting linked to a Jessica Mauboy article.

Haha, thats terrible.

It really is. I was really looking forward to reviewing this mediocreness.

/tear

Haha we all have these kind of days.. Whoa 666 comments, I am so M3TUL!

Haha we all have these kind of days.. Whoa 666 comments, I am so M3TUL!

Yay, freedom to continue posting! It is a shame isn't it? haha.. Well at least I was METUL for 10 mins.

I hope you took a screenshot. I failed to.

can stream here http://www.shockhound.com/albums/276703-the-devil-wears-prada-mp3s-with-roots-above-and-branches-below?cm_re=Homepage-_-TR+Panel-_-Devil+Wears+Prada

Fixed... I think I may have linked the wrong site....whoops.. AND DAMN for no screenshot!

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can stream here http://www.shockhound.com/albums/276703-the-devil-wears-prada-mp3s-with-roots-above-and-branches-below?cm_re=Homepage-_-TR+Panel-_-Devil+Wears+Prada

lol you sir are a masochist.

Sacrifices, sacrifices.

I'm not sure your going to find much pleasure in this pain.

You're so right. Ironically, as a result of my internet connection, the song "I Hate Buffering" keeps stopping and starting.

Thats a bunch of lol's right there. I found that track to be one of the 'best' (per se) of the album

Haha, so far, I agree. I'm not going to lie, these guys are really solid at being mediocre.

I'm thinking 2.5? Which in context, is a compliment.

Yes, 2.5 was what I thought would be 'good' as such for them. They are so good at not breaking new ground.

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Though there is a descent breakdown in 'Big Wiggly Style' with piano, that at least sounds swell. This Message Edited On 04.24.09

Yeah, I heard that. A bit of a wtf moment for me, but at least it's a variation.

always had a soft spot for this band. There are some decent amount of highlights throughout the album, probably will pick up this cd!

If you close your eyes it's As I Lay Dying or a hundred other bands. But I like "Assistant To the Regional Manager", but only because of the title.

Beets. Bears. Battlestar Galactica.

Beets. Bears. Battlestar Galactica.

I still like this a bit more than Plagues.

Oooo harsh. That's like saying: Welcome to Sputnik, now get the #@$% off of it.

I still like this a bit more than Plagues.

boring, generic, average, common, mediocre, moderate, ordinary, passable, run of the mill, undestinguished, unexceptional, standard...

I could go on forever...

not even going to bother with this

@ Waior: Satisified!
@loweredpie: typical, generic...

I almost hate myself for liking them but for some reason I can't help it. Album is by no means "awesome" but it's still pretty enjoyable.

it's still pretty enjoyable.

Will listen to this soon, but not expecting much

Neither am I, thus I won't even bother listening to it.

shit i couldnt listen to more than 3 songs, im disappointed. i set my expectations Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high.

Eh I listened to a few songs, probably like 2.5ish for me. To be fair I enjoyed it a little more than I expected.

people need to stop hating these guys because it's the "cool thing to do" right now. They're one of the strongest young Metal bands out there today and this is by far their best work.

It is by far their best work, I agree.

/sublimated message

Your username is incredibly appropriate.

They're one of the strongest young Metal bands

With a capitol M.

I agree with Failure, it seems that everyone loves to hate them just cuz everyone else is doing it. If you sit download and listen to their albums fully, u begin to see that these guy's are really talented, especially if you see them live, they are very powerful and energetic. Devil are defiantly a band that get better and better with each album. For sure am going to buy this.

What if I say that I have listened to all their albums? and I have seem them live? And I still think they are mediocre?

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Then you are wonderfully hopeless.

The sad thing is I did see them live, mainly because I wanted to see a local band that was supporting them (House Vs Hurricane). It was a big waste of 27 bucks.

Whoah! High praise is too high! Don't say 'wonderfully', say 'disgustingly'.

I deserve all the insults I get.

Why would I say he is disgustingly hopeless?

It is not disgusting that he is hopeless in regards to idolizing TDWP. It is wonderful.

Oh. I think we've all lost our minds.

I think you would be correct with that statement

Oh. I think we've all lost our minds.

Hahaha! It always goes back to that doesn't it? Probably 'cause this article is about TDWP, not about us verbally dismembering each other.

I say Metal because i hate dropping bands into one of many thousands of "sub-genres" (for example, anything that ends with CORE). These guys certainly aren't the best in the world, and a lot of people won't like them for some reason or another. But in this music scene full of Brokencyde's and other shit bands of that nature, TDWP is refreshing in that they've established themselves in a over-saturated genre, built up and expanded the sound they created, and are now bringing it to a wider audience.

P.S. "upagainstthewall", you're avatar is of August Burns Red and your name is taken from an Underoath song from their emo-friendly days. Just saying...

you're avatar is of August Burns Red and your name is taken from an Underoath song from their emo-friendly days. Just saying...

I'm not knocking either band (I'm wearing an ABR shirt right now, actually). But neither one of them did anything incredibly innovative. They just took an already existing sound, made they're own style. And progressively got better at it with each release. Much like The Devil Wears Prada. Interesting.

Failure, I still don't think it's fair to compare ABR or UO to TDWP. In regards to ABR, the technicality isn't even touched upon by TDWP, neither is the atmosphere explored by Underoath. It's pretty obvious that TDWP is hooked on formulaic song writing (which is okay, ABR is too, but they got the chops to back it up).

The main reason the avatar is of Matt Greiner is because I, being a drummer think he is fantastic and that the photo is mildly hilarious.

But neither one of them did anything incredibly innovative

Wow. I honestly have to agree with *everything* upagainstthewall said.

Exactly, underOATH and ABR both are great, but they didn't really innovate anything, neither did TDWP. But they all took something good and made it even better. I can't find a band that are alike any of those 3, which is a good thing IMO.

When I first listened to Prada, I disliked them alot, mainly cuz of the vocals. But I realized that I didn't pay attention to anything else, because the vocals threw me off. So when I bought Plagues and listened to it thoroughly, I realized that the instrumentals are very unique and everyone in the band make the other sound great. And Mike's voice is very unique compared to other screaming bands. And the clean vocals from the guitarist are amazing.

And we need not touch base on the fact that a huge amount of TDWP's sound is borrowed from Underoath. The post-rock melodic parts, the electronic interludes, the sing/scream dynamic all mimic Underoath's later work painfully.

I actually did kind of say that... I just wasn't so enthusiastic about it. I'm in no way trying to bring down August Burns Red or Underoath. I've been a huge fan of both for several years now. I'm also not saying that TDWP is better than them or on their level. But I do think they can be some day. Only 1/3 of the band is out of their teens and they haven't been playing as long as the two bands. But they've made huge progressions with each album, and after listening to this new one about 4 times already, I feel they are very close to becoming recognized for the talented musicians that they are.

you can't possibly credit Sing/Scream all to underoath. that's been around YEARS before they picked up instruments. ALL MUSIC is "Borrowed" from someone else. There hasn't been a single original riff or idea in arguably decades. It's all about taking one or several things, and making it work for you and your fanbase.This Message Edited On 04.25.09

Not attacking you Xxplosive but once again you state Underoath didn't "really innovate anything," but they have changed the whole scene of metalcore with their sound. (read my previous comment)

Sadly, close but no cigar.

There is obviously promise with TDWP, I've touched base on that plenty of times. But I just think they have a long way to come before they're really worth the fuss.

Edit: I know the sing/scream dynamic is not theirs, but the particular manner of which TDWP utilize it is alarmingly akin to Spencer and Aaron. This Message Edited On 04.25.09

Comment directed at FailureOnMyLips. This Message Edited On 04.25.09

Nope, I saved you from the double double.

...but the particular manner of which TDWP utilize it is alarmingly akin to Spencer and Aaron.

Haha! I better not have one of those now.

Even if the "dynamic" is similar to Underoath. There are at least 500 other bands that do the same, and SUCK ASS at it.

aka TDWP.

Thats exactly what I am trying to prove. Underoath have formulated it in their own unique way and countless bands are trying to do what they do and "SUCK ASS" as it.

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Ouch! That was completely expected.

Waior, you are bashing on TDWP as much as possible saying they suck ass and shit, yet you gave their album a 2.5, meaning you think it's alright. What's up with that?????This Message Edited On 04.25.09

average = lame.

He isnt stating that they are bad, but that they are mediocre at best, kintups you are right, we seem to be going round in circle's.

And it's difficult to post this fast! Who wants to call it a day? *crosses fingers*.

I hopefully have proven my point so people stop posting, and yes we are not all speed typing champions.

Well it's alright, I just found out that Megadeth and Slayer are going on a co-headline tour, so I'm gonna end this and bash my head into a wall from excitement.

SLLLLAAAYYYYEERRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As long as your 'upagainstthewall' I really don't mind... Haha, sorry it was there for the taking, but lame also I know.

I love lame puns.

I'm trying to decide if I should bring a mouth guard to the concert or elbow and knee pads........or both................

I need to learn how to refresh more often. Grumph.

And no, I don't think they're terrible. I think they're mediocre. aka 2.5

I need to refresh myself to. I'M GOING TO BED!

The same hangups TDWP has are the same hangups bands like UO and ABR have. The very off-putting fan stereotypes, equally off-putting Christain overtones, they're last two albums sounded the same. IMO they take the best parts of both those bands and make it theirs. And compared to other bands who do that, they are better across the board. The vocals, both screaming and singing, are more varied and stronger, the keyboardist isn't there for nothing, overall musicianship is tight and technical. You're praising one and discarding another. I don't know what you guys hear when you listen to their music, but the last thing they do is "suck ass" at their craft. I'm calling it a day. There's too much hypocrisy and ignorance on here.

Sleep is for the weak. Goodnight, kintups.

Hey, I don't think any of us are in as terrible of a mood as you seem to be. I'm keeping it lighthearted and extremely predictable, I'd like to think. Haha. All I'm saying is that this has been done before, and it's been done better.

And the clean vocals rule. happy?

I am a little cranky. Finals are approaching and i've been up all night writing papers, lol. I guess I just see them differently than some. I still stand by everything i said though.

I've given up arguing, though Underoath are much better song writers than TDWP, which seem to be you're main point Failure, you must remember they are different bands with the same formula and Underoath do a much better job at it. Recycled comment garbage, yes

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Is it just me or do Mike's screams seem more...weak/gaspy than previously?

Underoath are fucking phenomenal. But it's really unfair to lump TDWP with other bands that really do rip off UO and suck.

Failure: Mm, finals. I don't have them until June, so I'll be delightfully argumentative and irrational then (you know, more so than usual).

different bands with the same formula and Underoath do a much better job at it

Thanks marksellsuswallets, a change of subject, also it is time for me to dissapear from the Sputnik world for 4 days.

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If you listen closely you can definitely hear a bit of straining in his voice that wasn't there on Plagues.

No prob I like to keep things on topic...*ahem*This Message Edited On 04.26.09

It could be because screaming 300 nights of the year does taht.

Funny how it affects Spencer Chamberlain the opposite way then...

James: My life will be emptied.

Failure: Doesn't proper technique prevent the decay of a scream? Not bashing, just saying that I'm pretty sure there's ways to bypass ruining your voice. I can't imagine doing that every night without dying.

Wallets: Fersure

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proper technique can only get you so far. most bands with screaming will fix it when they go in the studio if their screamer starts to sound a bit weaker. For this album TDWP recorded in a small town in Indiana with the producer of "Dear Love" instead of opting for a bigger budget studio and a famous producer. I'm not sure if that's why he sounds different, but it's a good assumtion.

Spencer has changed his technique a lot over the years to. From higher pitched screetches to the now low-tone growls found on their current albums.This Message Edited On 04.26.09

The sad thing is I did see them live, mainly because I wanted to see a local band that was supporting them (House Vs Hurricane). It was a big waste of 27 bucks.

This thread, which isn't really even a thread, is the longest i've ever seen on this website.

If you are talking of news threads, you should have seen the epic 150 post + Underoath V A7x thread. And there are a bunch of albums with over 1000 posts.

i should also note, i haven't been here long.

why does a band this bad get talked about so much. there are a million bands just like this one that also suck. is it because they share the same name of one of the greatest films of all time.

true, this band doesn't deserve to be popular

failureonmylips, you claim that tdwp is technical, yet you can state no solid foundation or facts as to WHY they are technical. You can distort arguments as much as you want. The fact remains that you have no idea what you are even talking about.

ABR is known for their impressive technicality ala instrumental virtuosity, odd time changes and complex chord progressions. Underoath is known for their atmospheric take on the genre, mixing it with elements of post-hardcore and post-rock.

TDWP just do the same, formulaic take with every single one of their songs, while also blatantly ripping off underoath at every turn. This Message Edited On 04.26.09

while also blatantly ripping off underoath at every turn.

Amen.

yeah I thought that was pretty good too.

Haha. It's something I would've written.

no wai. That wuz a bonafide myhigherpie exclusive.

patent no. 6.666

I can see where the comparisons are made between tdwp's vocal styles and Underoath and i do accept that Underoath's songwriting is far superior to that of tdwp however I don't think they by any token sound the same or even that similar. I guess it is unacceptable to be influenced and use that influence in any music...O dear.

Yes it isn't innovative but it isn't a complete rip off im sorry that is nonsense

no it's pretty much a complete rip off sry dude.

what good is a rip-off if your rippping off something shitty. i dont see the comparison between tdwp and underoatth except that thier both awful. The only thing underoath has going for them is they were making awful songs for a lot longer

I'm sorry... do you have any support to back up your argument, or are you just talking out of your ass?

Because it seems to me like that's all you are good for.This Message Edited On 04.26.09

Are we still bickering about this?

Yes.

Okay, cool. Somebody make this personal.

true, my rhymes are tight but i'm no honkey.

Your face is personal. Oh sorry. You didn't mean you did you?

wtf I'm Pam Beesly. My face is hot.

Personally hot.

I'm outta your league. I'm a sales representative. Don't take it personal.

Edit: In kintups and my defense, this is still a more intelligent conversation then the TDWP bickering... This Message Edited On 04.26.09

Well. I'm a college student. I'm outta your league. Don't take it personal.

I could be like 40 years old.

I could be 60.

Oh, collage professor.

That would make me smart. Oh by the way, you spelled college wrong.

Haha. That's because I'm not 40 years old.

I knew that. You know why? Because I'm a student.

Yeah, but you're still old.

I feel bad for having this conversation on this thread.

Don't. Like you said, it's much more intelligent than the bile we saw before.

I will just casually mention that as a sophomore, TDWP is ridiculously and undeservedly popular among my classmates. There -- age and the band of concern alluded to in one eloquent post.

Well played.

I like these guys. I had taken the music snob's opinions and assumed they sucked but I've gotten to like them after giving em a good listen.

That was horribly boring.

nothing special, though danger: wildman is pretty sweet

So mediocre.

I thought this was over.

Wow, sounds totally sick. Love the mix of screaming, growls, and clean vocals. However, it does still sound like typical TDWP "riffs" and "breakdowns".