Track rips.

Trash band

The duality of Sputnikmusic.

Mantis opinions are universally shit so

Saw them live supporting another band a year or so back. They were ok.

They were fun as hell live when I saw them open for The Chariot but that was also back in 2011 and they were actually writing solid stuff. This is pretty shit though! I like their drummer and his podcast a lot but man, please drum for a different band at this point

I found they were a better live band compared to their studio material, imo.

When I saw them I honestly had no idea who they were. They were just super fun live and I bought Make Your Own History at the show for only 5 bucks.

Listened to Make Your Own History in high school a lot. Damien was always a banger, but the riffs are worse these days. They were never that crazy though, just fun.

Nice slapper of a song

So Tim, do you like the song or not?

Huge track from these dudes. Craig's drumming really elevates it to new heights.

Yeah, track fucking slaps.

Yeah, Craig is an absolute monster behind the kit. One of the best in the business.

I’ll always have a soft spot for this band honestly. MYOH and Rising Sun were my shit for a long time.

those two still rip

MYOH is pretty good but it gets a little repetitive after awhile. Can't say I ever listened to Rising Sun really. I might have to give it a spin. Craig definitely transformed this band though and gave them alot more room to be creative.

if Mantis approves, you know it rips m/

This song absolutely blows

nah, this is straight cringy garbage

Man, you guys are seriously fucking losers. For real. Your comments don't offend me or hurt my feelings, it's just annoying...like a gnat. Some of you treat this like Twitter, just looking for a reason to go at someone at the drop of a keystroke. Nah you can't react to the song or anything, you gotta make irritating comments totally unrelated to the topic. I bet you're like this in real life too, just annoying ass people who can't carry a conversation like an adult. You're THAT guy that when you come around wanting so desperately for someone to talk to you, people just groan inside and can't wait till they have an excuse to go somewhere you aren't. Take your little "oh I got him to respond" win that you so desperately wanted. Hell, I'll even send you a "coolest Sputnik person" award that you can put on your fridge.

"If God is truly good, then why are we still making music? Checkmate, fascists."
- this song paraphrased

really intellectual stuff with a stellar vocal performance

Man, you guys are seriously fucking losers. For real. Your comments don't offend me or hurt my feelings, it's just annoying...like a gnat. Some of you treat this like Twitter, just looking for a reason to go at someone at the drop of a keystroke. Nah you can't react to the song or anything, you gotta make irritating comments totally unrelated to the topic. I bet you're like this in real life too, just annoying ass people who can't carry a conversation like an adult. You're THAT guy that when you come around wanting so desperately for someone to talk to you, people just groan inside and can't wait till they have an excuse to go somewhere you aren't. Take your little "oh I got him to respond" win that you so desperately wanted. Hell, I'll even send you a "coolest Sputnik person" award that you can put on your fridge.

"Man, you guys are seriously fucking losers. For real. Your comments don't offend me or hurt my feelings, it's just annoying...like a gnat. Some of you treat this like Twitter, just looking for a reason to go at someone at the drop of a keystroke. Nah you can't react to the song or anything, you gotta make irritating comments totally unrelated to the topic. I bet you're like this in real life too, just annoying ass people who can't carry a conversation like an adult. You're THAT guy that when you come around wanting so desperately for someone to talk to you, people just groan inside and can't wait till they have an excuse to go somewhere you aren't. Take your little "oh I got him to respond" win that you so desperately wanted. Hell, I'll even send you a "coolest Sputnik person" award that you can put on your fridge."

one guy said something negative.....one

Two. It's just a common occurrence on this site. Too many elitist internet keyboard warriors and it's kind of sad really. Stay on the topic and stop with the naggy comments. Jesus, can't we just talk about the music. If a topic worth arguing over happen organically then whatever.

I’m not here to make friends, I’m here to make money.

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Nu-metal (19%)

Thank you for proving my point

emmure did this 20 years ago and it was dogshit then too

98% posing
2% repeating a riff

"if Mantis approves, you know it rips m/"

how is this a negative comment exactly? If anything, mocking or not, this is very little of a tease. The other one I can understand being upsetting though. For me though, I was mainly commenting on the music itself earlier. Wish this band would stop making such cringy music and go back to their Make Your Own History stuff, not this RATM wannabe crap.

Man, you guys are seriously fucking losers. For real. Your comments don't offend me or hurt my feelings, it's just annoying...like a gnat.


SO MANY HURT FEELINGS

Mantis with his scathing incitement is right. Now I come here to rate albums and catch news. Sputnik comment sections and it's regular posters have been SO embarrassing for years. Your comments aren't funny, they aren't clever, they just expose you to be losers in need of grass touching.

Or maybe, just maybe, you guys take internet comments way too seriously

Nah it's valueless comments like:

"nah, this is straight cringy garbage"

That
a) made me disengage with commenting on this site in the first place and
b) lower the bar for what everyone should expect from internet comments

My comment was genuinely positive. Mantis always posts good tunes

... This is my first news posting ever. So. Don't start being a fraud now, just own it.

This band is good live but the whole wannabe ratm shit is so played out

Great thread!

Mantis I feel like ive talked to you about (e.g.) Like Moths to Flames before. I vaguely recall you having good taste in limited interactions, hence my positive comment. I have zero reason to lie or disparage you

I've never listened to them before. Maybe other threads for similar shit. But I'll apologize for being aggressive with my response. You and I both know how users are on this site so, my bad.

mfs really made a song called "Kubrick Stare" whose video's thumbnail is said titular stare and now I'm cringing so hard my skull is collapsing into itself like a neutron star

"nah, this is straight cringy garbage"

That
a) made me disengage with commenting on this site in the first place and
b) lower the bar for what everyone should expect from internet comments"

I'm not allowed to have an opinion I guess according to you.

Pure crap

He did give a poor example, but his point is still valid. There are way too many elite music fucks on here. Countless times I've seen "lol look at the percentage of genre X on his profile" as a way to denegrate a user and make their opinion null. That shit is lame. Granted it is just the internet so at the end of the day it doesn't mean shit, but alot of people like having conversations about music whereas they may not have people they work with or otherwise that give a fuck about it. Alot of times too, users with over 5k+ comments feel they have the moral and musical superiority. I guarantee those same people are on reddit and are just irritating with every comment they post. Just constant shit posting.

Fear you can have an opinion. In fact, I thought PART of your original and follow-up comment talking about seeing them live was interesting. I dislike when comments like yours, and others here, are dismissive, unconstructive, and even less valuable than the music your level that same criticism at.

Anyway, I'm not investing my time in this this nonsense any longer. I'm going to go back to lurking. Have fun wallowing in the sputnik comment cesspit where you all belong.

i know a lot of stupid shit is being said in this thread and honestly i cant even process any of it because im so stuck on this

"mfs really made a song called "Kubrick Stare" whose video's thumbnail is said titular stare and now I'm cringing so hard my skull is collapsing into itself like a neutron star"

like good fucking god lmao

"Fear you can have an opinion. In fact, I thought PART of your original and follow-up comment talking about seeing them live was interesting. I dislike when comments like yours, and others here, are dismissive, unconstructive, and even less valuable than the music your level that same criticism at.

Anyway, I'm not investing my time in this this nonsense any longer. I'm going to go back to lurking. Have fun wallowing in the sputnik comment cesspit where you all belong."

I'm allowed to be dismissive, it's not a good song in my opinion and to many others. Constructive? This isn't a review and nor is the band going to read these comments. I've seen your comments in the past saying stuff like great song or whatever in other threads, how is that any better or valuable? I've noticed you and people like Mantis just can't take whenever someone dislikes something you like. It's not a comment cesspool, you just take it way too seriously. Take a chill pill

What? I could give two literal fucks if you like the song. I don't care. I don't care if you don't like what I listen to. I'm not sure where you got that out of what I said. I never shit on your personal opinion of the song. My point is the elitist fucks who just say stupid shit that devolves conversations into well, this. I could have said nothing sure and maybe we wouldn't be here, but what came first the chicken or the egg? In fact, I made a tongue in cheek comment on the Euthanasia review that someone went out their way track down in order to throw ad hominems at me on a totally unrelated thread. A comment that was made TWO years ago. It was absurd. That's the shit I'm talking about. Look we all know that if politics ever pop up in a conversation on here, if you're anything close to a "conservative" people go at you with the same old rhetoric (ie Nazi, transphobic etc) instead of arguing on merits. That shit just makes people not even want to have an opinion not out of fear over someone saying "mean" things, just because they want to have an adult conversation that doesn't get reduced to ad hominem attacks. Yes I used it twice, I like that word and just learned how to spell it today.

What the fuck is going on in this thread lmao

Men being men.

Some people need to Stray from the Sput

the assumption that sput being a music site means that anyone on it would want to earnestly discuss anything with these precious lil tantrum monkeys jfc my sides 10/10 thread

Nah, it's just that I truly... TRULY think that there are users on here where this is their life. It's the same on Reddit. They think this is what they were born for... To make comments on a music website. It's their purpose and they have to control the room otherwise they feel they are losing their purpose. You guys all know who you are. It's not even those necessarily with thousands of comments, I mean this site has been active since what 2006? Also Johnny, maybe me a big numetal dummy but I read your comment over and over... What are you on about? You said alot without saying anything at all.

Mantis, you're not talking to me but you are right. My purpose is definitely to be a hater and shitpost into eternity. Been fully embracing it in 2025

how many times are you gonna drop a "i dont care what anyone thinks" post and it be an entire paragraph about how bent you are

Hopefully a few more

honestly one of the most bitch made pissy fit throwing "sensitive" people on this site but every time i see him he's talking about how sensitive everyone else is in no less than 200 words of seethe cope whine and cry baby bitchery.

gettem drifter

You can be two things at once. I don't care what you have to say and have an opinion on what it is you're saying. It doesn't AFFECT me personally. It just drags down conversation, shit posting. I don't get offended by anything you say, you can think that all you want. I. Don't. Care.

But I will comment on it. When have I ever made a statement of "but you said this thing about me" other than just as a reference? It's never out of being "offended" Never, I always comment relative to the argument, discussion or whatever. Have I defended my position or pushed back, yes but always based on the merits of the conversation. I've never introduced strawman arguments into the discussion.

Drifter, what is your opinion of the song though? You like the main riff? I do. I think Craig is phenomenal as usual and Will Putney always make the band sound super tight and I love how he brings the bass into the mix.

Musically I fucking love this band, vocally I can’t fucking stand them

Man all this over a washed metalcore band 10 years past their prime

Didn't disappoint w that response, keep em coming

some people come to sputnik to fight, i come here to shit on will putney. although this is one of his more tolerable recording jobs so not much to say :/

song rules and is quite a step forward in depth and nuance from their earlier compositions such as "die pig" and "goodnight alt-right"

I knew this band was cringe now but "Goodnight Alt Right" is crazy lol

"You just got, knocked the fuck out!"

lol i actually like these guys though sometimes they're just very hit or miss for me

EVERYTHING HAS A PRICE

BUT THE PRICE IS WRONG BITCH

yknow actually hitting this the last minute or so kinda goes lol. definitely not the worst ive heard from these guys

"EVERYTHING HAS A PRICE

BUT THE PRICE IS WRONG BITCH"

lmao forgot about this one

AND PUSH THAT AGENDA

CAUSE YOURE DONNIES BITCH

now i wanna listen to that album again but i remember it mostly sucking

Yeah Andrew can write some super cringe lyrics at times, but I think he matured greatly on Euthanasia. Chest Candy has some fantastic and brutally honest lyrics.

still have to listen to euthanasia tbh. ill check it out

at least the lyrics are generally saying the right things even if theyre about as subtle as a brick. the biggest problem with this band is musically theyre usually very annoying (the old stuff is cool tho)

Pretty funny dude did a guest spot on a for today song back in the 2000s with how hard he tries to look

Saw them again as a support act last night - I stand by my original opinion that these guys are way better live than in studio.

Good for some early show hype, but that's about it for me.

Completely agree they’re better live

Song rules, these guys are great for the gym playlist

great song!

great song, SFTP doing SFTP things. I swear, these guys are this gen's RATM

This comment section is in desperate need of some proper Internet Comment Etiquette.

What are you, the fucking internet police?

Ironic that the Internet Comment Police should be roused on the thread of a band who recently screamed "and if you fly that blue flag, then fuck you too".

Yeah!

Don't you compare me to Internet Comment Police. If they were here we'd all be in FEMA camps within the fortnight. I've seen it happen. My friend Derek once posted a google review on the Burger King down on Hudson St. All he said was that there was a secret tunnel under the bathroom urinal that led to some rat kingdom and that it should be checked out. Ya know, just to make sure they weren't planning a coup or anything. He even gave a 4 star review because they had the biggest "whooper" he'd ever seen which was weird because he was a vegan. Didn't matter. Next day, BAM; deported. ICP got him. That was 7 years ago. Last I heard he was selling toenail art on the beaches of Constanta. I miss him every day. I'll never forgive the ICP for this. Especially because the Burger King closed like 3 months later and became a Risk E Rat's.

Anyway here's a rocket ship (_)(_)::::::::::D

Wtf does Insane Clown Posse have to do with any of this? The red herring is a joke.