This Fire Burns..But I Like It

2006-05-09 by pattern_recognition | 28 Comments
For all of you who've been living on the moon, the new Killswitch Engage song is officially available for listening and download at www.metalinjection.net. It's called This Fire Burns, and it's so good that it makes baby jesus cry with it's sheer metallic majesty.
Seriously though, it's a really good song, with some crushing riffs, plenty of pick squeals, and an almighty melodic chorus. No doubt the rest of their upcoming album will be equally as good. Or...better?*
Enjoy kids.

*- Incidentally, the song is also featured on the upcoming WWE Wreckless Intent compilation, which you should buy at your own risk. Don't say I didn't warn you. Although Motorhead are on it...

News Edited On 05.10.06

Tagged: Killswitch Engage

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pattern_recognition
May 10th 2006
950 Comments


Cos it's you I won't unleash the fury.
It was close, though.

SubtleDagger
May 10th 2006
737 Comments


After listening to this song, I'd like to say what needs to be said:

More like "This Song Blows".

It's amazing to me that Killswitch can go from being a semi-decent metal act with Jesse to ridiculously simplistic and mainstream crap. I mean, even the riffs suck now. They sound like Breaking Benjamin or some crap like that now.

(>dragon~guitarist<)
May 10th 2006
243 Comments


Its not THAT bad, although I must say the guitar riffs are boring as hell in the song. However Howard's vocals in the song is top notch!

pattern_recognition
May 10th 2006
950 Comments


To me, it felt like they'd simultaneously gotten heavier (the verse) but also more melodic (the chorus), without making any radical alterations or compromises to their sound. On top of which, yeah, Howard is in top form all the way through, and I'd definitely call his vocals the highlight.
Still, you know, it's all good, opinions opinions...

SubtleDagger
May 10th 2006
737 Comments


Its not THAT bad, although I must say the guitar riffs are boring as hell in the song. However Howard's vocals in the song is top notch!

I don't understand why no one sees the ridiculous arrangements of these songs. It's just so obvious that they sat down and a guitarist said, "Hey check out this awesome riff!" Then they based the entire verse around that and all is fine and dandy. Then they scratch their heads about what to do in the chorus and someone just plays one or two boring "epic" chords and Howard sings over it while the drummer does next to nothing.
Call that melodic or whatever, I call it uninspired.

pattern_recognition
May 10th 2006
950 Comments


There's actually a nice counterpoint in the chorus between the arpeggiated guitar and the rhythm under it; the rhythm part switches around from a strummed powerchord to a straight-ahead chug, and then to what sounds like a small octave part. Nothing revolutionary, but a nice little detail, reminscient of the chorus in When Darkness Falls.
Admittedly there's nothing groundbreaking here, but what makes it work, IMO, is the passion Howard puts across. That's what makes the chorus work, for me, and stops it being just generically 'epic'.
I'm not saying your wrong or anything, I know there's a lot of people with a similar view of the band, I'm just saying that KsE push my buttons.
Oh, that sounded so wrong.

SubtleDagger
May 10th 2006
737 Comments


I remind you that I did both of the big KsE reviews on this site, and I adore their work with Jesse.
This chorus garbage is being taken way way too far in my opinion though. At one point they didn't even NEED these choruses. Yes, they had some of them, but on most of the songs from the first two albums, any real "singing" is not that common. There were like three choruses with singing on AoJB and they fit fine with everything. Now it's just to the point where every song has to have a boring chorus you can see coming from a mile away.
I just miss when they wouldn't compromise the incredible riffage for song structure. AoJB has so many good riffs on it it's unbelievable. End Of Heartache I can only listen to about half the songs without getting bored. This song, I can barely stand listening to the whole thing.

pattern_recognition
May 10th 2006
950 Comments


Agree to disagree, I guess.
I understand what you're saying, and I agree with it, to an extent. Quite a few of the song on TEOH felt formulaic to me cos of the inevitable clean chorus- Breathe Life and Hope Is..., in particular, always seemed a bit ill-fitting to me.
But I reckon that when they're at their best, they can throw in a huge clean chorus that actually adds to the song- Rose Of Sharyn, When Darkness Falls, the title track, that kind of thing.
So I guess I agree with you insofar as that it does feel like they have a bit of a formula when it comes to their songwriting, but I think that this new song is one of those exceptions I mentioned above.
Anyway, like I said, agree to disagree. It's all good.

RunAmokRampant
May 12th 2006
228 Comments


chorus is boring.

I still prefer Jesse.

Royd Rage
May 19th 2006
419 Comments


it was ok. liked it enough to keep it. but my tastes are canging from metal. i am finding it to be boring and repetitive lately. still like KSE though...and i'll get thier new album when it comes around...

Metal Review
May 20th 2006
5 Comments


You guys are freaking on crack or something!This band has really changed from crappy little band with a skinny little white dude trying to make it in the world to some awesome stuff. not only are howards vocals better but they wrote this song t please fans. on their website the 2 main things people voted for in the poll for what THE FANS wanted for their future songs was more brutality and more singing and that is exactly what they did. This is a tribute to the fans in my opinion.

rustysurf84
May 20th 2006
327 Comments


Hmm. Intersting point, but.
Jesse is much better than Howard.
His screams were better and he had better range.
Also, he wrote better songs (Temple From The Within, Numbered Days, Self Revoultion)
But, you entitled to your opinion

rustysurf84
May 20th 2006
327 Comments


Listening to the song now,
It's gotten to be typical metalcore or whatnot sadly.
The clean guitar just killed the song.
The intro was great, and I thought it had promise.
However, its still a decent song.
Howard actuly sounds decent

Killswitch_2706
May 21st 2006
5 Comments


This is for all the people that posted bad about this song...

First off if u say jesse is better than howard all around. your retarded. On their dvd jesse says its weird to see howard in his spot but he believes hes doing just as good of job if not better. And he also said he doesnt have the range and vocal training that howard has.

As for the "boring riffs", and how they sit down and say hey check out this riff. Well if u actually know the band and know history on them ... all u have to do is read one interview and they'll tell u thats how adam or joel do it. They start off with a riff and build off it.

And yes i believe this song musically was devoted to the fans based on the fan poll and the elements of the new song.
so until you know what your talking about dont trash talk an amazing band that is taking their genre of music (metalcore) to where its never been.

Metal Review
May 22nd 2006
5 Comments


DUDE!!!!! KILLSWITCH_2706!!!! Finally someone who knows what they are talkin bout i agree with you totally!

Metal Review
May 22nd 2006
5 Comments


oh and before i get an angry comment i just want to say i like jesse but just didnt think he was right for the band after i heard howard.

jdurso
May 24th 2006
2 Comments


First of all to the guy who claims the aojb has only 3 singing choruses: Are you crazy???? Likes look at this: Numbered Days...singing chorus, Self Revolution..singing chorus, Fixation on the Darkness...singing chorus (we already have 3 tracks with singing choruses), My Last Serenade... singing choruses and might i add one of the best choruses i've ever heard, Life to Lifeless...singing chorus, Just Barely Breathing...singing chorus, The Element of One...singing chorus, Rise Inside...singing chorus. OK now lets reflect....I count 8 singing choruses which pretty much is 75% of that album. Listen Killswitch is a fenominal band. They don't care about complexity, they care about the arrangement which is an idea that gets lost on 90% of metalheads.... they just want fast riffs, all screaming all the time, with out any care taken in the songs arrangement or production.... i'm going to make a comment that will probably piss a lot of people off because most people whether a metalhead or not are just plain ignorant to what it takes to write music and what actually makes a song amazing.... to me a band like killswitch is like Metallica for this era of metal.... Metallica was never the most talented band even though they're extremely talented... there were better musicians out there in a techniqual sense...there were bands that were more progressive (ie Megadeth)... there were bands that were faster (ie Slayer)...but the reason why Metallica is and will be for a very long time the kings of heavy/Trash metal is because they're the best song writers in the genre..... no one can touch them.... on a level of arrangement and over all production these guys are the cream of the crop.... megadeth can't touch them because they try to be way to technical...and slayer can just play fast...mind you they are talented...but as far as writing ability... well they're at the very bottom of my list..... so to me killswitch is remenisant of Metallica in that they have that musicianship while at the same time they put a lot of care into a songs arrangement, into vocals (which is the most over looked part of any metal song because all people care about is the guitar and drums), and most importantly into te production. And mind you Killswitch isn't alone in their dept.... there are some bands doing it just as well but with a different twist (ie Avenged Sevenfold in a more rock/metal sense and Opeth in a more progressive sense).... so really before you people start throwing shit at a band like this really evaluate how knowledgable you are because until you've been there trying to write a great song direct your shit at bands like blink 182 or good charolette

Metal Review
May 26th 2006
5 Comments


awesome point

Killswitch_2706
May 27th 2006
5 Comments


I guess Jdurso...Metal Review...and myself are the only people that know what and where true metal came from, and how it needs to be put together to be a great metal song. Its just amazing what people will say to keep themselves thinking that Fall Out Boy and My Chemical Romance are the best bands out there.(i hope that pisses a lot of people off)

justthebassplayer
May 29th 2006
1 Comments


personally i think killswitch are one of the bands that have great talent but not enough people who know what they are all about. people who dont appreciate metal. people who are into mainstream pop and bull **** punk rock. who cares if killswitch have one bad song or that howard jones is better than jesse. they are still one of the best bands in metal history

Killswitch_2706
June 3rd 2006
5 Comments


Agreed.

Clayman555
June 4th 2006
18 Comments


Dudes...this is definitly metal, im tired of hearing killswitch are sellouts that is a bunch of crap. They write very powerful punishing stuff. The whole singing thing isn't an attempt to get little girls into the band...it is to attach itself to the listener like a freaking virus. I Love everything by them new and old, and have come to the conclusion that they are only evolving as a band and getting tighter and tighter.

PS....no one is more metal than Adam freaking D.

jdurso
June 8th 2006
2 Comments


I agree that they're one of few bands evolving.... i think it takes balls to do eveolve especially in metal because a lot of the metal fans out there are attached get attahced to a bands early work and expect them to be that band forever... i'm a musician and as a musician i love all different types of music.... i like the idea of change as long as you believe in it... there is a difference between evolving and selling out... i think one prime example of that is metallica.... they had the same sound and the same ideas on all the records between kill and justice with refinement coming with each album... if i were them, after a decade of the same expectations and flavor i'd want a change too.... hence the black album and the load/reload years... many people in metal think that it makes them sell outs but at that point how can you call that selling out... they were already the most famous metal band of that generation... they did it for themselves and they wrote some killer songs in those years... there were also horrible songs but thats expected when you're in new territory.... but they had the balls to do things the way they wanted to do it and not cater to some snot nose metal head that just wants duplications of ride and puppets.... and bands like killswitch and a7x have that same attitude today.... they push limits and bring so many more ideas into today's metal forum.... they've also revived the idea of the arrangement in metal and not fitting into some fomat that tries to rebel against pop music..... i just think at the very least they deserve the respect of the metal community because they're doing things many of these metal bands can't... write great music and are able to perform it live

Killswitch_2706
June 9th 2006
5 Comments


Actually a good post compared to your first one. Lets just all just close this and say that Killswitch is evolving and taking metal with them. To places metal wouldnt be going without Killswitch.

Killswitch_2706
June 10th 2006
5 Comments


my fault i thought ur first post was someone else jdurso

rustysurf84
August 11th 2006
327 Comments


If you want legit Metalcore, go listen to Unearth's new album.
I miss old Killswitch.

SkaSenanake
August 26th 2006
34 Comments


the singing has gotten better of course and more melodic but it's not nearly as heavy as I like it. The riff sounds strangley familiar to fixation on the darkness. hmmmmmm come on joel and adam I know u guys aren't dead yet.

n03xcus3
September 29th 2006
1 Comments


get used to it JESSE IS NOT COMING BACK..btw his new band "seemless" is pretty good esp if you like Kyuss or Amuzing the Amazing..if you have seen KsE in concert with howard then you know the truth... HOWARD RULES ALL W DA IRON FIST OF DOOM AND YOU HAD BEST RECOGNIZE!!11!!

btw no Killswitch = no metalcore = wicked lame

btw going to see unearth in 2 days and trivium the week after



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