Worse than Doris.

warning to potential listeners: despite the name it's unfortunately not inaudible.

These vocals are fucking awful.

Serious WOTY contender right here

Someone please resurrect Mitch

hahaha...wow

Someone please resurrect Mitch [2]

Who did the cleans in all shall perish?

The band is literally cleansing the music with cleans and it's really not working out

Damn those vocals really are something else entirely

Snidesque

Cleans aren't the only problem, whole song blows

Guys the band has always sucked. They just suck a little more now.

Fucking cracked up from the first 10 seconds

This is a strong contender for worst album of 2017 already, and they've only released two songs

vox is pure comedy gold especially during the first minute or so

I'm sorry this is absolute fucking trash, the last album wasn't even that bad, but this? hooooooo boy.

can't tell if this trash is worse or better than that dumpsterfire of an album KoRn put out last year. They're basically the same thing anyway, so it's getting hard to tell at this point.

Does anyone actually even like either of these two songs thus far?

"The band makes the music they want not what u want" -One of the YT comments, I don't know why people think this is a good argument

youtube comment sections for objectively terrible bands are always a goldmine of unintentional hilarity.

what i don't get is why people stress over other people's opinions of art* they enjoy



*yeah, i know

Said person also has a Chelsea Grin prof. pic

Sucks Eddie has fallen this far, him on TPOE is like some of the most intense harsh vocals I've ever heard

Would rather have the new Nickelback tbh

Can we please make this the only album on Sputnik to maintain a 1 average?

Not to discredit the other songs, but when the two singles are this awful I can't expect much

Eddie, what the fuck are you doing man...

suiciide silence - silence

lmao

they have to be trolling at this point

Eddie was the best vocalist in metal while he was in All Shall Perish. Wtf happened

Good lord the second new song is even worse lmaooooo. I didn't think that was possible.

This is just awful what in the fuck are they honestly thinking going this direction?

i mean read the youtube comments bro. they know they have a loyal fanbase that's going to buy up whatever tepid bowel movement they dump on them.

Eddie is definitely doing crack that's for sure. No sober person sings like that.

"Can we please make this the only album on Sputnik to maintain a 1 average?"

new KoRn didn't; this won't either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzTx9gbRiKw

was it their drummer that was literally calling people gay slurs on Facebook from his personal page for being like "hey this sucks"

New Korn is decent tho

What's the link to their hate response video?

the beginning is so awkward

theyre trying to act like they dont care but theyre obviously a little salty.

Ok yeah the beginning is straight up clumsy

"RIVERS FLOW INTO THE OCEAN"
Yeah no shit

they're trying to throw shade back with so much difficulty

Guys the band has always sucked. They just suck a little more now. [2]

Omg are they serious with that shuffle riff at the beginning of song? It is waaaaay too over the top. Sounds like a deathcore cover of a traditional blues song.

And is it just me or is the guitar delay in the verse off time?

"New Korn is decent tho"

if you like disjointed af writing where the choruses are introduced jarringly, general transitions are jarring, vocal rhythms and melodies are awkward, and none of the songs have a good chorus + good verse combination, then yeah sure it's decent. Otherwise it's a 2/5 max.

I just don't get it. Hermida's vocals in All Shall Perish were some of the best and he had amazing range. What the hell happened?

What in the hell has gotten into Eddie?

Was gonna make a snarky comment about him not being in his 20's anymore, but his vox seem pretty on-point in this live vid from 2013, so I don't think it's that. Maybe he's pulling an Akerfeldt?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hwTSSj2qc8

this is literally just korn

what the fuck is this
cleans sound like he's jerking it with a razor blade

Hell, I don't think the band is 100% to blame. Who the fuck this producing this shit?

That moment when Nickelback's new song is heavier.

I lost it where he just coughed that single word in the middle of the cleans. Oh man... lol, the riff at the beginning was actually not bad.

Some guy commented on the video that "Mitch is rolling over in his grave"

Another dude replied "Kinda like how he rolled into the road "

Fucking lost it

lmfao

""The band makes the music they want not what u want" -One of the YT comments, I don't know why people think this is a good argument"

Funny you say that cuz you're such a QOTSA fanboy. The band has said that the idea behind Songs For the Deaf was that they were creating the music THEY wanted to hear because it didn't exist yet.

Fuck the fans, make music you like

"Fuck the fans, make music you like"

agreed, but this is still garbage.

Fuck your fans, and make music you like.

Silence made me wanna commit suicide

XD

why do people hate this so much lmao

sonic dogshit

this might be the best song they've ever released

I think you all are just retarded

jesus this is bad

Doris was honestly alright. This is just very bad tho

delusional

ur trolling sucks fam

It's awful dude

It's OK. By any new band it would be considered passable and I'd personally wait until their next release to see where they take it - it's just that it's a band with a big following and reputation that means that the negative reaction is magnified. This is a big stylistic shift from the band and I don't think they've entirely adapted to the songwriting style that a more alt-metal approach demands. They've been doing the same thing for 15 years now. I don't think this will be that great at all but I appreciate their willingness to try to make a big change instead of stagnating in the dying deathcore scene. Hopefully they'll learn from this experience and the album afterwards will be an improvement.

"Hell, I don't think the band is 100% to blame. Who the fuck this producing this shit?"

Ross Robinson

"Sonic Dogshit"
Is that the sequel to Sonic Boom?

Nah that was the name for the international release

Vox are the funniest thing I've heard in a while.

Funnier than Mouth Moods

wows

Sounds like eddie is trying to sing like Chino. This is far worse then Doris . The vocals are not good by any means but I have a far worse problem with the God awful production and recording . Just bad all around.

"It's OK. By any new band it would be considered passable and I'd personally wait until their next release to see where they take it - it's just that it's a band with a big following and reputation that means that the negative reaction is magnified. This is a big stylistic shift from the band and I don't think they've entirely adapted to the songwriting style that a more alt-metal approach demands."

No, maybe for some people that's true but I have no loyalty for this band or deathcore, I couldn't care less about them going through a stylistic shift. This song is just trash for the most part. The vocals trying to be 'crazy' but sounding downright laughable, the uninspired chugs in the beginning, that out of sync stereo palm muting which sounds so sloppy, the straight-up ripping off from Korn, Slipknot, and Deftones, the out of key singing - it's just not good.

WOW should have used some autotune at least if he is that desperate to sing clean, he was completely out of key there. I miss the Suicide Silence that brought us songs like bludgeoned to death, at least those were fun

Remember when Cryptopsy started releasing singles from The Unspoken King?
This is that bad.

> *Average rating 1.1, Well I haven't seen anything like this for quite a long time
Song is awful, the cleans are very laughable, but at least it's less generic than Doris.
But I cannot understand one thing, who thought it's going to be good idea to ripoff music from 2000s, that everybody hates, those guys are pathetic

"Remember when Cryptopsy started releasing singles from The Unspoken King?
This is that bad."

Difference being Cryptopsy actually made good music prior

i can't believe you've done this

Eddie sounds like he's doing a drunk karaoke. The rest of band sucks too.

james blunt owns

The vocals are really not even the worst part of this mess...

Wtf.

Eww

i would rather listen to a whole brokencyde album than hear this shit again

I don't mind Doris but this different level kinds of shit.

Eddie was the best vocalist in metal while he was in All Shall Perish. Wtf happened

the fuck am i reading

hey, this still isn't bad at all

"who thought it's going to be good idea to ripoff music from 2000s"

the rest of the nu metal revival seems to be doing well, so someone probably thought it was time to jump on the bandwagon. "Everyone" hates nu metal just like "everyone" hates Nickelback, and yet they all still sell very well.

this is lie or liar level shit

lol the vox
lol the vox
lol the vox



Is there anything else to say?

I mean the instrumentation is god awful too, but it always has been, so is it worth pointing out?

I'm wracking my brain trying to figure out why people hate this, and I'm just gonna stick to the conclusion that everyone here actually enjoys boring ass deathcore and is completely ignorant to any sort of experimentation

idk what experimentation you're referring to. All I hear is a once mediocre deathcore band playing bottom of the barrel cock rock.

if you hear cock rock here I think you're slow honestly

k.

just admit you're hating this to be trendy

sorry torts this is nothing new

My original comment was actually making the point that hating on this is probably a waste of time, because it's such an easy target. But, draw whatever conclusion you want.

it's nothing new. but it's nowhere even CLOSE to offensive bad.

same

"everyone here actually enjoys boring ass deathcore"

try again.

never heard anything else by these guys but this song is objectively an abortion.

Deathcore (and metalcore) bands all over the place have been ditching the genre to move into nu metal. Look at bigger names like Emmure and Of Mice and Men, or even lesser known acts like Beyond Cure (who are quite well known in Taiwan because of their collab with Freddy from Chthonic and have just released a new EP which has gone very nu metal-esque), Carnelian Cube, Sounds of the Rodeo, etc. It's the new in thing. But some bands have executed the transition better than others. Suicide Silence should've just gone for another album like The Black Crown and steadily moved into new territory rather than jumping head first into a style they don't seem to know how to play.

@torts I'll copy and paste my answer to someone else:

Okay to nitpick let's start with how unimaginative the song title is ;), but moving on. Opening riff is ultra boring, uninspired two-note chugs (even for SS), then the out of sync muted picking does not give off the effect they were clearly trying to get, it sounds sloppy and unprofessional. Vocals + music often sound like a poor rip off simultaneously of a bunch of nu-metal bands, namely Deftones, Korn, and Slipknot (not sure why they're doing this lately), that chuckle mid-way through even gives off a Draiman vibe. Vocalist is again clearly trying to go for something else (something crazy/off the wall) but just isn't convincing or skilled enough to pull it off, it ends up just sounding ridiculous and sloppy. The singing is shockingly out of key. Clearly not intentionally. At times they make it work, but they're so clearly aping other bands that it's impossible not to notice. Nothing to do with a change from deathcore to whatever they are now for me, as I'm not a huge Deathcore or SS fan myself, song is just baaad. Much worse than Doris.

torts if this was like 1999 maybe your "trendy" comment would be fitting, but nu metal's not popular anymore so criticism of it it shouldn't be that shocking. And this song/album seems to be heavily nu-based, so the criticism is appropriate.

The way he emphasizes the word "spirit" in that half scream makes me chuckle every time.

This was the first SS song I've heard, not a good experience.

their good stuff is not much better

sounds like heavier godsmack

@Eons Godsmack? How are you getting Godsmack out of this?

Agreed, that was straight out of line

same way u gave jane doe a 2/5 prob lelelelelele

This song is about as fun as Joe Doe doe.

Jane Doe doe

Nu-deathcore needs to sound less like slipknot and more like Crazy Town TBH

come my lady
come come my lady
you're my butterfly
sugar, baby

come my lady
come come, my lady
i'll make your hips shake
you make me go crazy

Never got into this band.
But this is my favorite song this band has ever done. mediocre verses, horrible breakdowns, hilariously simple guitar, and an honest attitude with a logically emotional crescendo. Solid 3/5.
Breakdowns are by far the worst part.

The fact that so many of you can pretend its funny day after day saying the same varieties of a joke that something is offensively bad is remarkable.
Had to write a post this long so that all the human beings who may stumble upon this thread know there are other human beings out there, and not just machines whose mindless instincts compel them to shit on music they don't like for a sense of social belonging, in many instances, day after day.
Others of you are just unhappy with the direction a band you like is going. You're chill. Have a good day er'body.

lol you have put more effort in this post then Eddie in hitting the notes

It's gonna be okay, everybody. Thy Art Is Murder and Rings of Saturn have new albums coming this year. Metal lives on.

I love YT for these kind of comments really

"@Eons Godsmack? How are you getting Godsmack out of this?"

"Agreed, that was straight out of line"

pfffft

"Someone please resurrect Mitch"

Lol, Mitch is one of the worse vocalists and song writers in metal. Can you imagine how much worse this would sound it Mitch was still with them??

Anyways, this song is awful, but did you guys expect anything else from SS? These guys are awful song writers.

So I just read an interview where Eddie actually said this was his favorite album he's ever done ever

I know that people often say stuff like that... but seriously what kind of drugs is he and the rest of the band on right now

I don't see what's so offensively bad about this. It's not great. It's nowhere near the most awful thing I've heard, either.

The most annoying part is the out of sync stereo picking in the beginning, and throughout the song. Solid 2/5, definitely not 1/5 material though.

Maybe it'd be worse on headphones though.

Mitch was pretty good tho as far as vocals go, not sure why you think he's one of the worst

I think he is one of the worse because he sounds like he has a tube sock stuck in his throat, and he sounds like Donald Duck live. The only time I can say I enjoyed his vocals is in "No Pity For a Coward", but that was probably because that song is one of their only well written songs.

After Black Crown came out he definitely sounded like Donald Duck live, but he didn't always. He used to sound nearly identical to the studio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCovc3AQLjI

That's probably the best I've heard him

^ damn he used to own those highs

gonna jam the cleansing for nostalgia soon

didn't think it could live up to how bad you guys were all saying it is but holy shit. Proved me wrong

he was basically a less good Eddie--which is kind of ironic, given that currently his vox are better than Eddie's.

Yea Mitch was damn good live before Black Crown came out, and he had fantastic stage presence

Good enough, I suppose.

i think this band has always sucked and been boring.

Would you say that you've thought they sucked for Eons?

I would say that's a bit of an overstatement.

"After Black Crown came out he definitely sounded like Donald Duck live, but he didn't always. He used to sound nearly identical to the studio"

What if I think his studio vocals are awful? I mean that video was the best I heard from him, but I still don't think it was good. I guess this is something we are going to have to disagree on.

Also, in the same concert with "No Pity For a Coward", he sounds like Donald Duck with his highs. It could have been fatigue though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAjfGq77jPE

I re-listened to Suicide Silences's two new songs, and I have come to the conclusion that people are being ridiculous and are overreacting. This really isn't that bad. A part of me is glad that they are willing to try something new(which was desperately needed imo), but it seems like they are not in the same page. It sounds like half the band got inspired by Deftones and the other half wants to just play Black Crown again.

I love Mitch's vocals, but hey, everybody is entitled to their opinion. No worries man.

But these two songs have been awful imo

Immediately played some ASP to obliterate this from my memory.

Doris is average deathcore for most of the song, but the cleans come out of nowhere and don't even fit in with everything else that's going on. It's such an awkward transition. This song...is at least consistently disappointing. I don't completely hate it, since I'm into stuff like Korn and Deftones, but they do a pretty poor job of imitating those bands.

of course Mabbitt would say he doesn't hate this, only reason I clicked back onto this article was because I saw Mabbitt commented and had a feeling that somehow he would say its not that bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAjfGq77jPE

Someone please resurrect Mitch [3]

the dude slayed live

"It sounds like half the band got inspired by Deftones and the other half wants to just play Black Crown again"

this so goddamn much, shit is fucking terrible yo

This is a brand new low, even for SS

not worse than doris, but definitely not better

lmao i'm gonna take a wild guess and say that these guys don't have any money considering that they made this video from wmm

Opening riff is the shit. Swinging on that 1-0 chord.
The 2nd half is actually pretty good tbh. But this is a little much on the early Deftones and Korn edginess.
Also eddie looks like a more hipster Chino anyway sooooo

"this so goddamn much, shit is fucking terrible yo"

I mean, yeah, its bad. But come on guys, its not any worse than Suicide Silences old stuff.

Random thought, I have a feeling this could be the last Suicide Silence album because of creative differences.

nah this is worse than their other stuff. At least their old stuff had heavy riffs to which you could mindlessly nod your head, if nothing else. These new tracks are just cringe the whole way through.

It's no No Time to Bleed that's for sure.

I mean, the way I see it, its either awful death core or badly structured songs with nu metal and death core elements. Its going to suck either way.

I look forward to your review

I am going review their new album, just for you Chug.

I will hold you to it.

I like it. Liked Doris more tho. The change in sound is too drastic and sudden for this to be successful but if they're not discouraged I bet they could iron out the kinks and get better production.

"who thought it's going to be good idea to ripoff music from 2000s, that everybody hates"

Most retarded comment in this entire thread.

tresm's above is worse tho

tresm's is just an opinion comment.
The comment I quoted literally states that everyone hates music from the 2000s, which is factually incorrect.