This was oddly entertaining.

band is bad

glad to say these transcendental gods come from my city m/

pretty bad

Band is the worst. Hear them on the radio at work almost daily and its agonizing how bland and insipid the music they make is.

I never understood the hatred for this band or radio rock in general, some of it is shit yes, filled with generic songwriting too, but their execution seems solid.

you never understood why people hate radio rock?

Not really, I get why people don't like it, but I don't think it's the worst thing to happen to rock music.

well what do you think is then?

Good question: I guess it isn't radio rock itself, rather the fact that the same attention isn't given to more innovate bands.

Or maybe the fact that some people think that just because something is new, it sucks.

"Or maybe the fact that some people think that just because something is new, it sucks."

that makes no sense

"that makes no sense"

I know people who think that every rock song that came out after the 90s sucks.
Is that better?

do u hang out with people younger than 40?

It would be a very awkward friendship if they weren't.

smh

you're not friends with your parents?

Radio rock is hated less because of the actual quality of the music and more because it's on the radio, which means it's popular, which turns some people off... because by liking it, they're no longer "better" than their peers as a result of listening to more obscure music.

The phrase "radio rock" even existing is proof of that. It doesn't do anything to describe the music itself, other than 15 year olds acting cool belting out vague keywords like "generic" and "omg thoes lyrics". It's in a category of it's own for simply being popular, and on the radio. XD

"you're not friends with your parents?"

As friendly as a 18 year old can be with his own family.

"Radio rock is hated less because of the actual quality of the music and more because it's on the radio, which means it's popular, which turns some people off... because by liking it, they're no longer "better" than their peers as a result of listening to more obscure music."

Good point, if radio stations diversified their playlists more, bands like Pop Evil might not get so much scrutiny.

I'm pretty they'd still get shit regardless of how much AirPlay they get

"Radio rock is hated less because of the actual quality of the music and more because it's on the radio, which means it's popular, which turns some people off..."

-ur on the wrong website probably

"The phrase 'radio rock' even existing is proof of that. It doesn't do anything to describe the music itself, other than 15 year olds acting cool belting out vague keywords like 'generic' and 'omg thoes lyrics'"

-"radio rock" describes a particular type of rock not by the fact that it appears on the radio often, but rather the fact that the music is written in a way that lets it appeal to radio stations easily, as compared to other types of rock. It's not just a meaningless term, only if you don't want to accept its meaning. and what's wrong with criticizing shitty lyrics and generic music? do u think those are not valid complains?

"and what's wrong with criticizing shitty lyrics and generic music? do u think those are not valid complains?"

They're definitely valid, though I feel it's excessive. Not every band sounds like Hinder or Nickelback.

but the ones that do, do

shit band

i've never actually listened to this band before but looking at some of their album covers i should really keep it that way

As I expected, this left no impression. Faceless band. A shame, really.

boring as hell.

Everytime I hear the radio I'm reminded why I don't listen to it.

It is the worst thing to happen to rock music though. Formulaic, generic, copycat, call it what you want but it takes the "artist" out of the artistry. Pretty much since the late 90's it has dominated rock stations and become the standard of which program directors use to choose their playlists because it rates high with the masses and they can sell more advertising.

Even in the 90's we were subjected to generic alternative: Collective Soul, Train, Cracker to name a few off the top of my head. However, for every "One Headlight" you might get on the radio it would be followed by a Disarm, Spoonman, or Give it Away. Rock was more or less alternative rock at that point, Tool, Primus, even bands like Corrosion of Conformity were played as often as bullshit "Lightning Crashes." (ok maybe not, that fucking song would not die back then.)

Fast-Forward to today and we have Pop Evil, Theory of a Deadman, Shinedown, etc. dominating the rock stations. It's not that big of difference from when Crazy Town or Limp Bizkit had the airwaves on lock but we still had Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam, Rage mixed in as well. Now the only break from the bullshit on rock radio is when they play one of these "classic" bands tunes. Pretty sad that in 20 years or so there haven't been any mainstream artists that have actually been good and commercially successful, save for a System of a Down or, or, actually I can't really think of another. So yeah, I do think it's the worst thing to happen to rock.

"Fast-Forward to today and we have Pop Evil, Theory of a Deadman, Shinedown, etc. dominating the rock stations. It's not that big of difference from when Crazy Town or Limp Bizkit had the airwaves on lock but we still had Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam, Rage mixed in as well."

I don't know much about it since I don't listen to radio, like, ever, but are you sure there are not good bands being played at the radio in between those shitty copycats? Idk, it seems like a case of not giving modern music a fair chance rather than modern music being all shitty, idk. It feels like you're overestimating the frecuency with which good old bands were played, and underestimating the quality of modern ones

I like Gossip a lot, Royal Blood, idk, and there's plenty of bands as good as those

'Pretty sad that in 20 years or so there haven't been any mainstream artists that have actually been good and commercially successful, save for a System of a Down or, or, actually I can't really think of another. So yeah, I do think it's the worst thing to happen to rock.'

lmao what

didn't read that part, wish I hadn't

Yeah unfortunately I am subjected to modern rock radio on a daily basis. I will say Royal Blood is pretty good. They wear their influences on their sleeve but at least it's pretty good stuff. I know some of my friends like Nothing More but I didn't really dig it. A few people who I respect their opinion like Highly Suspect and I guess I'd have to hear more than one song by them to actually formulate an opinion. So please Asdfp277 enlighten me with more than 2 examples, don't jump to conclusions, and your double negative comment makes no sense.

How about no? Go use google, don't come here bitching and demand I help you, specially with that le-wrong-generation attitude and "MUSIC SUCKS" angst

You're the one that commented on my comment, even using the disclaimer that you don't listen to radio therefore basically saying that you are ignorant on the subject.

Also, I love modern music. I could easily make the argument that modern music is just as good or better than the music I grew up with. I am talking specifically about modern mainstream rock.

you have arctic monkeys - am at a 4.5 lol that was so overplayed on every radio station ever so clearly there's another example so stop ur bitching

if that ain't the definition of modern mainstream rock i don't know what is

I guess it matters on what station you are listening to. I am talking specifically about "rock" stations. I have to hear Loudwire Nights every Wednesday night and I never have once heard Arctic Monkey's on there. I am sure there are many college-rock/alt-rock stations that play good modern music. But I am talking about the stations where Pop Evil, Buckcherry, and Disturbed are their bread and butter.

Rock can be the broadest genre in all of music if you want to make it that way. You could label Bleachers and St. Vincent rock as easily as Metallica and Mudvayne, but would you say they are one in the same? I like modern music a ton, I pretty much listen to current music 90% of the time I listen to music so I take exception to people jumping to the conclusion that I have a the-wrong-generation music sucks attitude when I don't at all.

I will say that the majority of Modern rock, heavy rock to be specific does suck. That is probably where I have been misunderstood. Pop Evil falls into the heavy rock category and that is specifically the genre I was attacking.

'I have to hear Loudwire Nights every Wednesday night'

uhh then don't?

'You could label Bleachers and St. Vincent rock'

how is st vincent rock?

'I take exception to people jumping to the conclusion that I have a the-wrong-generation music sucks attitude when I don't at all'

your earlier quotes:
'Pretty sad that in 20 years or so there haven't been any mainstream artists that have actually been good and commercially successful,'
'Now the only break from the bullshit on rock radio is when they play one of these "classic" bands tunes'

'I will say that the majority of Modern rock, heavy rock to be specific does suck.'

heavy rock always sucked

Checkmate, you have successfully misinterpreted my quotes into arguments that support your attack on my post. I would hope based on the context of what I was writing that one could assume that I wasn't talking about current alt-rock or sub genres other than hard rock. I am not pretending to be the most articulate arguer on the site I should have been more specific in my attack on modern rock because there is a lot of really good stuff out there, just not on the hard rock stations I am subjected to.

I really don't have a choice to not listen to Loudwire, it's played over the PA during my bowling league. Heavy or maybe I should have said hard rock has had some good bands too. Clutch, Anthrax, COC, pre-black album Metallica, Pantera, Down to name a few. But you might also notice that they are all bands that have been around for like 15 years or more and they are more the exception than the norm.

"you misinterpreted everything that i said when i said modern rock, when what i was trying to say was shitty rock that's played on that one radio station that i listen to"

Ok now go bitch elsewhere

I was trying to compare bands similar to Pop Evil because that is what the damn article is about. Please try to defend bands like Pop Evil or 5 finger because that's what I was trying to say, that the formulaic modern "hard" rock started with Disturbed and Shinedown and etc and has become some of the most popular rock currently. Fucking Christ, I am arguing that these bands suck and you 2 want to pick apart every word I write. I am starting to think that you 2 have a secret love for this garbage and are totally offended by me saying it sucks and has been detrimental on modern hard rock.

u were tryin to do a lot of things, and failin at all of em

Can you add anything other than insult to this thread? It's easy to pick apart someones words try making a rational argument for music like Pop Evil.

yea hold on

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Just chiming into say that Asdfp and Sinternet can go suck a fuck.

Just chiming into say that Asdfp and Sinternet can go suck a fuck.

edgy

sinternet seems to just troll most threads